What's The Best Way To Fight and/or Stop Racism?

[danielpalos]

I agree that that question should be asked.


But, you say that this problem is "bigger than racism"?


Here is a question for you. Why do the voters in the country keep electing people who are doing such a horrific job?

That's a great question. Why do poor whites in rural America keep voting for Republican? They did a survey and even though they are broke, they're also happy.
.....?

Wouldn't mind seeing the link for that study.


But you raised the very terrible policies that dem judges are inflicting on Detroit. IN a sane world, such terrible policies and results would lead to lost elections and new people and new policies.

This isn't the one but

The study finds that those living in counties outside metropolitan areas tend to report higher levels of happiness than those living in central cities, by about .05 points on a scale from 1 to 4.

At one end of the scale, the study finds that the three unhappiest counties are all urban. Coming in at number one is St. Louis, with a density of 5,700 people per square mile—about 19 times the density of the happiest county and five times the density of two of the three happiest counties. The Bronx and Brooklyn (Kings County), New York, take the next two spots, each with a density of over 30,000 people per square mile.

At the other end, the three happiest counties (which scored above a 3.5 on the happiness scale) are mostly rural or a mix of suburban and rural, according to the study. These counties include Douglas County, Colorado, outside Denver, which has a density of 300 people per square mile; Shelby County, Tennessee, outside Memphis, which has a density of 1,200 people per square mile; and Johnson County, Kansas, outside Kansas City, which has a density of 1,110 people per square mile. Note that each of these places is located near a large city, which may allow residents to benefit occasionally from urban resources and amenities while still living in a much lower-density area.

Indeed, the study finds that denser counties tend to have less happy residents, even when controlling for factors like greater crime and poverty. While these variables do weaken the relationship between density and unhappiness, the effect remains negative and significant. This leads the authors to conclude that size and density—what they call “the defining features of cities”—are associated with greater unhappiness. Even if cities were to reduce their levels of crime, poverty, or unemployment, urban residents would still be less happy than those living elsewhere. In this way, the study notes, “cities act like a magnifying glass, bringing out the best and the worst in us.”

In his second study, published in the journal Cities, Okulicz-Kozaryn explores this subject further by determining the tipping point at which a city’s size becomes too big and its residents become unhappy. In this case, the study defines happiness in terms of “subjective wellbeing,” a common definition of happiness, which includes both life satisfaction and one’s mood. Using data from the 1972-2012 U.S. General Social Survey, the study again finds that larger cities are far less happy than smaller ones. As the figure below shows, happiness gradually increases as population size declines. The one notable exception is a sharp decline in happiness in communities of around 5,000-8,000 people.

In the U.S., the Biggest Cities Are the Least Happy - CityLab

it could be a simple infrastructure problem. better public transportation and infrastructure could help with those issues.

And who pays for these ad nauseum idea's that have no true long term oversight or micro-management involved ??? Oh I know, the working class dummy taxpayers right ??? Higher taxes, higher taxes, higher taxes from the Demon-crat platform eh ???

How about showing proper management of the budgets and ideas we already have in play, instead of this hyperbolic bullcrap that requires more, more, more without the proper oversight to manage it all properly ????

upgrading infrastructure is more about quality of life; and public transportation specifically can help people circulate more money locally.

 

[beagle9]

That's a great question. Why do poor whites in rural America keep voting for Republican? They did a survey and even though they are broke, they're also happy.
.....?

Wouldn't mind seeing the link for that study.


But you raised the very terrible policies that dem judges are inflicting on Detroit. IN a sane world, such terrible policies and results would lead to lost elections and new people and new policies.

This isn't the one but

The study finds that those living in counties outside metropolitan areas tend to report higher levels of happiness than those living in central cities, by about .05 points on a scale from 1 to 4.

At one end of the scale, the study finds that the three unhappiest counties are all urban. Coming in at number one is St. Louis, with a density of 5,700 people per square mile—about 19 times the density of the happiest county and five times the density of two of the three happiest counties. The Bronx and Brooklyn (Kings County), New York, take the next two spots, each with a density of over 30,000 people per square mile.

At the other end, the three happiest counties (which scored above a 3.5 on the happiness scale) are mostly rural or a mix of suburban and rural, according to the study. These counties include Douglas County, Colorado, outside Denver, which has a density of 300 people per square mile; Shelby County, Tennessee, outside Memphis, which has a density of 1,200 people per square mile; and Johnson County, Kansas, outside Kansas City, which has a density of 1,110 people per square mile. Note that each of these places is located near a large city, which may allow residents to benefit occasionally from urban resources and amenities while still living in a much lower-density area.

Indeed, the study finds that denser counties tend to have less happy residents, even when controlling for factors like greater crime and poverty. While these variables do weaken the relationship between density and unhappiness, the effect remains negative and significant. This leads the authors to conclude that size and density—what they call “the defining features of cities”—are associated with greater unhappiness. Even if cities were to reduce their levels of crime, poverty, or unemployment, urban residents would still be less happy than those living elsewhere. In this way, the study notes, “cities act like a magnifying glass, bringing out the best and the worst in us.”

In his second study, published in the journal Cities, Okulicz-Kozaryn explores this subject further by determining the tipping point at which a city’s size becomes too big and its residents become unhappy. In this case, the study defines happiness in terms of “subjective wellbeing,” a common definition of happiness, which includes both life satisfaction and one’s mood. Using data from the 1972-2012 U.S. General Social Survey, the study again finds that larger cities are far less happy than smaller ones. As the figure below shows, happiness gradually increases as population size declines. The one notable exception is a sharp decline in happiness in communities of around 5,000-8,000 people.

In the U.S., the Biggest Cities Are the Least Happy - CityLab

it could be a simple infrastructure problem. better public transportation and infrastructure could help with those issues.

And who pays for these ad nauseum idea's that have no true long term oversight or micro-management involved ??? Oh I know, the working class dummy taxpayers right ??? Higher taxes, higher taxes, higher taxes from the Demon-crat platform eh ???

How about showing proper management of the budgets and ideas we already have in play, instead of this hyperbolic bullcrap that requires more, more, more without the proper oversight to manage it all properly ????

I won’t argue about cutting down on the waste abuse and fraud happening in government. Government contracts to defense contractors just for the sake of keeping those weapons manufacturers employees employed.

I’d much rather cut that spending and make that defense company make things we the people want not the military industrial complex

Gotta have a strong military or else, and we don't want to know the else part.

 

[hunarcy]

The best way to stop racism is to stop focusing on race and treat people equally under the law. You know, how things were going before Obama.

So, pilgrim, what did Obama do to topple your apple-cart in Utopia?

Why do you care? You see EVERYTHING in terms of race, so there's no discussing things with you.

 

[sealybobo]

Wouldn't mind seeing the link for that study.


But you raised the very terrible policies that dem judges are inflicting on Detroit. IN a sane world, such terrible policies and results would lead to lost elections and new people and new policies.

This isn't the one but

The study finds that those living in counties outside metropolitan areas tend to report higher levels of happiness than those living in central cities, by about .05 points on a scale from 1 to 4.

At one end of the scale, the study finds that the three unhappiest counties are all urban. Coming in at number one is St. Louis, with a density of 5,700 people per square mile—about 19 times the density of the happiest county and five times the density of two of the three happiest counties. The Bronx and Brooklyn (Kings County), New York, take the next two spots, each with a density of over 30,000 people per square mile.

At the other end, the three happiest counties (which scored above a 3.5 on the happiness scale) are mostly rural or a mix of suburban and rural, according to the study. These counties include Douglas County, Colorado, outside Denver, which has a density of 300 people per square mile; Shelby County, Tennessee, outside Memphis, which has a density of 1,200 people per square mile; and Johnson County, Kansas, outside Kansas City, which has a density of 1,110 people per square mile. Note that each of these places is located near a large city, which may allow residents to benefit occasionally from urban resources and amenities while still living in a much lower-density area.

Indeed, the study finds that denser counties tend to have less happy residents, even when controlling for factors like greater crime and poverty. While these variables do weaken the relationship between density and unhappiness, the effect remains negative and significant. This leads the authors to conclude that size and density—what they call “the defining features of cities”—are associated with greater unhappiness. Even if cities were to reduce their levels of crime, poverty, or unemployment, urban residents would still be less happy than those living elsewhere. In this way, the study notes, “cities act like a magnifying glass, bringing out the best and the worst in us.”

In his second study, published in the journal Cities, Okulicz-Kozaryn explores this subject further by determining the tipping point at which a city’s size becomes too big and its residents become unhappy. In this case, the study defines happiness in terms of “subjective wellbeing,” a common definition of happiness, which includes both life satisfaction and one’s mood. Using data from the 1972-2012 U.S. General Social Survey, the study again finds that larger cities are far less happy than smaller ones. As the figure below shows, happiness gradually increases as population size declines. The one notable exception is a sharp decline in happiness in communities of around 5,000-8,000 people.

In the U.S., the Biggest Cities Are the Least Happy - CityLab

it could be a simple infrastructure problem. better public transportation and infrastructure could help with those issues.

And who pays for these ad nauseum idea's that have no true long term oversight or micro-management involved ??? Oh I know, the working class dummy taxpayers right ??? Higher taxes, higher taxes, higher taxes from the Demon-crat platform eh ???

How about showing proper management of the budgets and ideas we already have in play, instead of this hyperbolic bullcrap that requires more, more, more without the proper oversight to manage it all properly ????

I won’t argue about cutting down on the waste abuse and fraud happening in government. Government contracts to defense contractors just for the sake of keeping those weapons manufacturers employees employed.

I’d much rather cut that spending and make that defense company make things we the people want not the military industrial complex

Gotta have a strong military or else, and we don't want to know the else part.

Yea but when we try to cut an old obsolete weapons company you cons cry about all the jobs that will be lost. This is pretty much socialism when the only way that company makes it is if the federal government employs them.

 

[IM2]

The best way to stop racism is to stop focusing on race and treat people equally under the law. You know, how things were going before Obama.

So, pilgrim, what did Obama do to topple your apple-cart in Utopia?

Why do you care? You see EVERYTHING in terms of race, so there's no discussing things with you.

And so do you. So I guess you're out of the discussion too.

 

[IM2]

If we just don't talk about crime, will it go away too?

Last year murder was 1.4 percent of all crimes and less than that as a percentage of total deaths. Do we now ignore murder and claim it's a problem we don't feel is worth talking about here?

Because while crimes were committed by approximately 3.5 percent of our population, over 30 percent are either racist or hold white supremacist views according to Pew Research.

So what is really the bigger problem?

 

[Unkotare]

What I said is that the next generation is already better, and leaving mindless racists in the past where they belong.

Good luck with your fantasies.

What fantasies?

.... it all depends on their negative life experiences in dealing with the different races .....

More like a lack of any real experience in knowing different kinds of people. Ignorance is an effective incubator for fear.

 

[Unkotare]

What I said is that the next generation is already better, and leaving mindless racists in the past where they belong.

The last generation was already better. So was the one before that. ......e.

No, kids today are better.

...the good blackies you teach ....

Only democrats can talk like this and still tell themselves they aren’t rabid fucking racists.

Fucking hypocrites.

 

[beagle9]

This isn't the one but

The study finds that those living in counties outside metropolitan areas tend to report higher levels of happiness than those living in central cities, by about .05 points on a scale from 1 to 4.

At one end of the scale, the study finds that the three unhappiest counties are all urban. Coming in at number one is St. Louis, with a density of 5,700 people per square mile—about 19 times the density of the happiest county and five times the density of two of the three happiest counties. The Bronx and Brooklyn (Kings County), New York, take the next two spots, each with a density of over 30,000 people per square mile.

At the other end, the three happiest counties (which scored above a 3.5 on the happiness scale) are mostly rural or a mix of suburban and rural, according to the study. These counties include Douglas County, Colorado, outside Denver, which has a density of 300 people per square mile; Shelby County, Tennessee, outside Memphis, which has a density of 1,200 people per square mile; and Johnson County, Kansas, outside Kansas City, which has a density of 1,110 people per square mile. Note that each of these places is located near a large city, which may allow residents to benefit occasionally from urban resources and amenities while still living in a much lower-density area.

Indeed, the study finds that denser counties tend to have less happy residents, even when controlling for factors like greater crime and poverty. While these variables do weaken the relationship between density and unhappiness, the effect remains negative and significant. This leads the authors to conclude that size and density—what they call “the defining features of cities”—are associated with greater unhappiness. Even if cities were to reduce their levels of crime, poverty, or unemployment, urban residents would still be less happy than those living elsewhere. In this way, the study notes, “cities act like a magnifying glass, bringing out the best and the worst in us.”

In his second study, published in the journal Cities, Okulicz-Kozaryn explores this subject further by determining the tipping point at which a city’s size becomes too big and its residents become unhappy. In this case, the study defines happiness in terms of “subjective wellbeing,” a common definition of happiness, which includes both life satisfaction and one’s mood. Using data from the 1972-2012 U.S. General Social Survey, the study again finds that larger cities are far less happy than smaller ones. As the figure below shows, happiness gradually increases as population size declines. The one notable exception is a sharp decline in happiness in communities of around 5,000-8,000 people.

In the U.S., the Biggest Cities Are the Least Happy - CityLab

it could be a simple infrastructure problem. better public transportation and infrastructure could help with those issues.

And who pays for these ad nauseum idea's that have no true long term oversight or micro-management involved ??? Oh I know, the working class dummy taxpayers right ??? Higher taxes, higher taxes, higher taxes from the Demon-crat platform eh ???

How about showing proper management of the budgets and ideas we already have in play, instead of this hyperbolic bullcrap that requires more, more, more without the proper oversight to manage it all properly ????

I won’t argue about cutting down on the waste abuse and fraud happening in government. Government contracts to defense contractors just for the sake of keeping those weapons manufacturers employees employed.

I’d much rather cut that spending and make that defense company make things we the people want not the military industrial complex

Gotta have a strong military or else, and we don't want to know the else part.

Yea but when we try to cut an old obsolete weapons company you cons cry about all the jobs that will be lost. This is pretty much socialism when the only way that company makes it is if the federal government employs them.

Name those obsolete companies please.

 

[beagle9]

What I said is that the next generation is already better, and leaving mindless racists in the past where they belong.

Good luck with your fantasies.

What fantasies?

.... it all depends on their negative life experiences in dealing with the different races .....

More like a lack of any real experience in knowing different kinds of people. Ignorance is an effective incubator for fear.

Nothing wrong with different kinds of people. It's when those people group together to do evil is when we have a problem. The character of an individual as well as the character of an entire group means everything when assessment is taken of the individual or group being dealt with in life. A problem occurs, and is also tragic when an individual or group doesn't realize that their character has become bad, and their forward movement in life creates chaos and mayhem for everyone that comes in contact with such individuals or group's.

 

[beagle9]

If we just don't talk about crime, will it go away too?

Last year murder was 1.4 percent of all crimes and less than that as a percentage of total deaths. Do we now ignore murder and claim it's a problem we don't feel is worth talking about here?

Because while crimes were committed by approximately 3.5 percent of our population, over 30 percent are either racist or hold white supremacist views according to Pew Research.

So what is really the bigger problem?

Want to talk about Chicago ?? I thought not.

 

[IM2]

What I said is that the next generation is already better, and leaving mindless racists in the past where they belong.

Good luck with your fantasies.

What fantasies?

.... it all depends on their negative life experiences in dealing with the different races .....

More like a lack of any real experience in knowing different kinds of people. Ignorance is an effective incubator for fear.

Nothing wrong with different kinds of people. It's when those people group together to do evil is when we have a problem. The character of an individual as well as the character of an entire group means everything when assessment is taken of the individual or group being dealt with in life. A problem occurs, and is also tragic when an individual or group doesn't realize that their character has become bad, and their forward movement in life creates chaos and mayhem for everyone that comes in contact with such individuals or group's.

Yep and that's why we blacks are talking about continuing white racism .

 

[IM2]

If we just don't talk about crime, will it go away too?

Last year murder was 1.4 percent of all crimes and less than that as a percentage of total deaths. Do we now ignore murder and claim it's a problem we don't feel is worth talking about here?

Because while crimes were committed by approximately 3.5 percent of our population, over 30 percent are either racist or hold white supremacist views according to Pew Research.

So what is really the bigger problem?

Want to talk about Chicago ?? I thought not.

We'll talk about America because there are at least 8 more cities more dangerous than Chicago. Furthermore Chicago is part of the 1.4 percent. So, want to talk about white racism??

I thought not.

 

[deanrd]

How do you stop racism? I don’t have a complete answer, but I think a good beginning would be to disband the GOP.

 

[Correll]

What I said is that the next generation is already better, and leaving mindless racists in the past where they belong.

The last generation was already better. So was the one before that. We have had a national consensus AGAINST white racism since the late 60s.


It doesn't matter, because people are wiling to keep the flame of "racism" alive based on lies about people.

What you are starting to realize is that to white rich people, you’re a nigga too.

I am willing to discuss issues of class in America.

But NOT as a deflection from my point about race and how we are failing to move on from it.



The last generation was already better. So was the one before that. We have had a national consensus AGAINST white racism since the late 60s.


It doesn't matter, because people are wiling to keep the flame of "racism" alive based on lies about people.

 

[beagle9]

Good luck with your fantasies.

What fantasies?

.... it all depends on their negative life experiences in dealing with the different races .....

More like a lack of any real experience in knowing different kinds of people. Ignorance is an effective incubator for fear.

Nothing wrong with different kinds of people. It's when those people group together to do evil is when we have a problem. The character of an individual as well as the character of an entire group means everything when assessment is taken of the individual or group being dealt with in life. A problem occurs, and is also tragic when an individual or group doesn't realize that their character has become bad, and their forward movement in life creates chaos and mayhem for everyone that comes in contact with such individuals or group's.

Yep and that's why we blacks are talking about continuing white racism .

Be fair, and don't discard continuing black racism either. And yes it does exist, maybe even more so today than ever before.

Realizing power can be an awesome yet corrupting thing, so will blacks handle their rise to power well or will they be consumed by it to repeat or to recreate themselves the very things they fight against or claim that they rebuke ???? Are we seeing a preview yet ?? Hmmm.

 

[beagle9]

How do you stop racism? I don’t have a complete answer, but I think a good beginning would be to disband the GOP.

Drinking your political cocktail already this morning ??

 

[Correll]

What I said is that the next generation is already better, and leaving mindless racists in the past where they belong.

The last generation was already better. So was the one before that. ......e.

No, kids today are better.

We have had a consensus against white racism since the mid 60s when the dems finally flipped on the issue.


Since then, more and more, those that need racism to sustain their political power, have been manufacturing "racism" in order to do so.


Ignoring that, or worse, supporting that, with nonsense like believe a white man using the term "ghetto" is "racism"


will only grow division and strife, and "racism" and even actual, real racism.

 

[beagle9]

If we just don't talk about crime, will it go away too?

Last year murder was 1.4 percent of all crimes and less than that as a percentage of total deaths. Do we now ignore murder and claim it's a problem we don't feel is worth talking about here?

Because while crimes were committed by approximately 3.5 percent of our population, over 30 percent are either racist or hold white supremacist views according to Pew Research.

So what is really the bigger problem?

Want to talk about Chicago ?? I thought not.

We'll talk about America because there are at least 8 more cities more dangerous than Chicago. Furthermore Chicago is part of the 1.4 percent. So, want to talk about white racism??

I thought not.

8 more cities eh ? Care to name them ?

 

[Correll]

What I said is that the next generation is already better, and leaving mindless racists in the past where they belong.

The last generation was already better. So was the one before that. ......e.

No, kids today are better.

Yea but look what they have to deal with. When I went to school it was $5k a year tuition. I could afford to pay at least half of it just working part time and summers. So worst case is I graduated with $10k student loan debt

Today it’s $80k debt give or take. That’s a big deal. That makes it a lot harder for the good blackies you teach to go to college. But you don’t care cause you got yours.

THe increase in cost of education is a separate issue from "Racism".