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Spell it 'secession', and we can go from there.
Any state can leave the Union, provided the other states approve.
Won't happen.
Fuck their approval. Who says the federal government would allow it even if they did approve?
Nothing in the Constitution says a state can't secede. Even if it did, I would say the Constitution has no authority to tell states they can't secede.
The theory that state have no right to secede is just plain bunk.
That was settled at Appamatox Court House. Anyone trying to destroy the US today is a traitor, and need be treated as such.
as the Pledge of Allegiance clearly illustrates through the line “one nation, indivisible.”........
.......which was written by Francis Bellamy, a Christian Socialist pushed out of his post as a Baptist minister for delivering pulpit-pounding sermons on such topics as “Jesus the Socialist.
After leaving the pulpit, Francis Bellamy decided to advance his authoritarian ideas through the public schools.
Bellamy wrote the Pledge of Allegiance for Youth’s Companion, a popular children’s magazine. With the aid of the National Education Association, Bellamy and the editors of Youth’s Companion got the Pledge adopted as part of the National Public School Celebration on Columbus Day 1892
So why should the socialist pledge of allegiance prevent the states from exerting their ABSOLUTE RIGHT TO SECDE?!?!?!?!?!?!
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Nobody is forced to live in the United States. You are free to go live in any country that will have you.
You're free to stick your head where the sun don't shine.
If you can't leave a union you aren't free.
Hey Bozo, you are free to leave any time. You don't like the United States of America, get your scuzzy ass out of here.
Why do liberals all sound like rednecks these days?
For most of my life, I could not have contemplated the idea that I would support such a thing. But the curve of the country towards socialism and away from liberty is so steep that I would now not only embrace the idea, but move to a State that secession. What say you?
We could swap out Texas for Puerto Rico and never have to change the flag.
I think California and New York should just take over things and say unless you want to starve or go back to the dark ages, step in line and do as we say.
30 of Californias 58 Counties are at 9% Unemployment,15 of them are 10% or better .....still want them in charge?....
California Counties: California?s unemployment rate by county - Data Desk - Los Angeles Times
The issue has long been decided.
A few wack far right wing nut reactionaries and the dipsy anarchists can moan and groan all they want.
It makes not a whit's difference.
If you can't leave a union you aren't free.
Hey Bozo, you are free to leave any time. You don't like the United States of America, get your scuzzy ass out of here.
That is another form of redress. But if enough of people in one geographical area want to leave, secession makes sense as well. That is what the OT is about.
Hey Bozo, you are free to leave any time. You don't like the United States of America, get your scuzzy ass out of here.
Why do liberals all sound like rednecks these days?
Why are RWers such crap citizens these days...
Total Pub Propaganda BS: ACORN, Kenyan Muslim Marxist,Tides, Mosque, Death Panel, lose your doctor, huge costs, DEBT CRISIS, Obama Recession, stimulus failed, Barney Frank, Nazi Soros, Nazi socialists, Volt suqs, Iran making bomb etc etc
Nobody is forced to live in the United States. You are free to go live in any country that will have you.
You're free to stick your head where the sun don't shine.
And you're still free to go live in any country that will have you. Nobody is forcing you to be here.
Hey Bozo, you are free to leave any time. You don't like the United States of America, get your scuzzy ass out of here.
Why do liberals all sound like rednecks these days?
Why are RWers such crap citizens these days...
Hey Bozo, you are free to leave any time. You don't like the United States of America, get your scuzzy ass out of here.
That is another form of redress. But if enough of people in one geographical area want to leave, secession makes sense as well. That is what the OT is about.
Work to make it work. Don't just cut off your nose to spite the assholes who are ruining things for everyone.
The results will not be what you now imagine.
Rather than relief you'll end up causing much, much pain.
Not worth it in the long run, until several generations are dead and gone.
Don't use permanent solutions to solve temporary frustrations.
It's not unconstitutional.
You suppose the United States became the strongest, most prosperous and freest peoples on Earth because we were a UNION of states or because we were all separate states all doing our own thing?
The United States become what it once was, prior to the recent collapse, because 'they all were separate, distinct and sovereign individuals, doing their own thing. Producing, earning, doing, fulfilling the fulfillment of their own lives, all of which summed to their being "the most prosperous and freest peoples on Earth".
And there's one and only ONE reason why the United States is no longer free and prosperous and, that reason is, a sizable percentage of the citizenry are no longer free, they no longer produce, they no longer pursue the fulfillment of their own lives, they've turned from the principles that define America, to the grope for 'the easier way.
They've adhered to foreign ideas that are hostile to those principles.
Unbelievable that such things are still spoken of after all these years
"Even in the case of a mere League between nations absolutely independent of each other, neither party has a right to dissolve it at pleasure; each having an equal right to expound its obligations, and neither, consequently a greater right to pronounce the compact void than the other has to insist on the mutual execution of it."
-- James Madison; from letter to Nicholas P. Trist (Feb. 15, 1830)
That is another form of redress. But if enough of people in one geographical area want to leave, secession makes sense as well. That is what the OT is about.
Work to make it work. Don't just cut off your nose to spite the assholes who are ruining things for everyone.
The results will not be what you now imagine.
Rather than relief you'll end up causing much, much pain.
Not worth it in the long run, until several generations are dead and gone.
Don't use permanent solutions to solve temporary frustrations.
This country isn't salvageable. All the incentives work in the wrong direction. Congress will never be reformed by profession politicians. The U.S.A is swirling down the toilet bowl.
If you think the people of the Roman Empire didn't know they were headed for oblivion, you're mistaken. They simply couldn't do anything about it. That's why the secession movement is gaining steam here. Plenty of Americans understand the same exact process is going on here.
Nobody is forced to live in the United States. You are free to go live in any country that will have you.
You're free to stick your head where the sun don't shine.
And you're still free to go live in any country that will have you. Nobody is forcing you to be here.
You suppose the United States became the strongest, most prosperous and freest peoples on Earth because we were a UNION of states or because we were all separate states all doing our own thing?
The United States become what it once was, prior to the recent collapse, because 'they all were separate, distinct and sovereign individuals, doing their own thing. Producing, earning, doing, fulfilling the fulfillment of their own lives, all of which summed to their being "the most prosperous and freest peoples on Earth".
And there's one and only ONE reason why the United States is no longer free and prosperous and, that reason is, a sizable percentage of the citizenry are no longer free, they no longer produce, they no longer pursue the fulfillment of their own lives, they've turned from the principles that define America, to the grope for 'the easier way.
They've adhered to foreign ideas that are hostile to those principles.
So, rather than fighting to preserve what we had even as recently as when "41" was still in the Oval Office, you'd throw your weight behind withdrawing.
That's not who we are.
When Texas secedes, does it return the 3.8 billion it took from TARP?
Speaking of which, why did Texas accept the bail-out in the first place?
