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"Which Parent Do I Not Need - My Mom or My Dad?"

Just a note to all those anti-SSM people who 'say' they support civil unions as the alternative...

...you thus disagree with this girl and those who think like her.
 
Are you saying a woman can take the place of a father?

Tell us why not.

Because men and women are not the same.

When young men grow up without a rational, calm male presence in their lives they are handicapped in that they have not had the benefit of a good example to follow. That's why it's no surprise that our prisons are full of men who grew up with no father figure in their lives.

A woman cannot teach a young boy how to be a man.

A woman does not know what young men go thru in their early years so would not know how to address problems unique to males.

A boy can have a strong male presence that is not his father.
 
A lesbian couple now, for example, unmarried, can have as many children as they want. It's not illegal. The claim that legalizing gay marriage is somehow needed to make that possible is stupid,

which makes this 11 year old, and whoever told her to say what she said or whoever put this nonsense in her head,

stupid.

Millions of children are being raised in same sex households, 40,000 in CA alone. 4% of all adoptions are by gays and lesbians.

Those children deserve the stability and security for their families that legal marriage provides.
 
Tell us why not.

Because men and women are not the same.

When young men grow up without a rational, calm male presence in their lives they are handicapped in that they have not had the benefit of a good example to follow. That's why it's no surprise that our prisons are full of men who grew up with no father figure in their lives.

A woman cannot teach a young boy how to be a man.

A woman does not know what young men go thru in their early years so would not know how to address problems unique to males.

A boy can have a strong male presence that is not his father.

Ah, but these people believe we raise our children in some sort of gay bubble. I'm sure they're perplexed at how my son managed to learn to throw a baseball, shoot a gun and pee standing up...
 
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A lesbian couple now, for example, unmarried, can have as many children as they want. It's not illegal. The claim that legalizing gay marriage is somehow needed to make that possible is stupid,

which makes this 11 year old, and whoever told her to say what she said or whoever put this nonsense in her head,

stupid.

Millions of children are being raised in same sex households, 40,000 in CA alone. 4% of all adoptions are by gays and lesbians.

Those children deserve the stability and security for their families that legal marriage provides.

The most important thing in a family is love. Children living with two people who love and care for each other makes for happy children. The gender of the parents is not the important component.
 
A lesbian couple now, for example, unmarried, can have as many children as they want. It's not illegal. The claim that legalizing gay marriage is somehow needed to make that possible is stupid,

which makes this 11 year old, and whoever told her to say what she said or whoever put this nonsense in her head,

stupid.
Did your dad have a vagina???
 
A lesbian couple now, for example, unmarried, can have as many children as they want. It's not illegal. The claim that legalizing gay marriage is somehow needed to make that possible is stupid,

which makes this 11 year old, and whoever told her to say what she said or whoever put this nonsense in her head,

stupid.

Millions of children are being raised in same sex households, 40,000 in CA alone. 4% of all adoptions are by gays and lesbians.

Those children deserve the stability and security for their families that legal marriage provides.

The most important thing in a family is love. Children living with two people who love and care for each other makes for happy children. The gender of the parents is not the important component.

You'll get no argument from me. All the kids of gay parents I am in contact with are happy and well adjusted. The kids of divorced parents on the other hand...
 
A lesbian couple now, for example, unmarried, can have as many children as they want. It's not illegal. The claim that legalizing gay marriage is somehow needed to make that possible is stupid,

which makes this 11 year old, and whoever told her to say what she said or whoever put this nonsense in her head,

stupid.
Did your dad have a vagina???

Now there's a cogent response. :rolleyes:
 
A lesbian couple now, for example, unmarried, can have as many children as they want. It's not illegal. The claim that legalizing gay marriage is somehow needed to make that possible is stupid,

which makes this 11 year old, and whoever told her to say what she said or whoever put this nonsense in her head,

stupid.
Did your dad have a vagina???

Now there's a cogent response. :rolleyes:
it is cogent...change the definition of marriage...change the definition of Dad...change the definition of anything at your whim...a great foundation on which to build a nation.
 
Did your dad have a vagina???

Now there's a cogent response. :rolleyes:
it is cogent...change the definition of marriage...change the definition of Dad...change the definition of anything at your whim...a great foundation on which to build a nation.

What is the definition of a dad?

Someone who plays sports?
Someone who fixes stuff?
Someone who is around when you need him?
Someone who sets a good moral example?
Someone who loves you?

How many males fail to meet that criteria? How many females could do a better job?
 
Did your dad have a vagina???

Now there's a cogent response. :rolleyes:
it is cogent...change the definition of marriage...change the definition of Dad...change the definition of anything at your whim...a great foundation on which to build a nation.

How will the definition change? Was the definition of voting changed when blacks and women could do it?

My kids don't have a Dad, they have two parents who love them and a donor. The children I was a surrogate for haven't changed the definition of mother, they don't have one. They have two parents who love them and a couple of donors. (the egg and the oven). Children still will have mothers and fathers, even ours...because there is no "one size fits all" definition of what makes a FAMILY.

Marriage will still mean marriage even if more consenting adult relationships are included in the LEGAL definition and parenting will still mean parenting.
 
Now there's a cogent response. :rolleyes:
it is cogent...change the definition of marriage...change the definition of Dad...change the definition of anything at your whim...a great foundation on which to build a nation.

How will the definition change? Was the definition of voting changed when blacks and women could do it?

My kids don't have a Dad, they have two parents who love them and a donor. The children I was a surrogate for haven't changed the definition of mother, they don't have one. They have two parents who love them and a couple of donors. (the egg and the oven). Children still will have mothers and fathers, even ours...because there is no "one size fits all" definition of what makes a FAMILY.

Marriage will still mean marriage even if more consenting adult relationships are included in the LEGAL definition and parenting will still mean parenting.

blacks and women don't choose to be black or a woman......and it is definitely not a behavior or "orientation"....

cold hard fact....gays cannot prove their 'sexual orientation' is something they are born with...any more than a pedophile or an incestuous person can....all these so-called "sexual preferences" are still aberrations for whatever reason...they are not protected minority groups or a "suspect" class like race or sex...and so they don't warrant equal protection under the 14th...

cold hard fact....gays are born either a man or a woman just like everybody else.....calling them "legal" parents does not make them a mother and father and family....(don't bring up adoption)

cold hard fact.....gays must resort to a third party of the opposite sex to 'have' a child....this smacks of polygamy if you ask me....

cold hard fact.....the child is still missing one of his real parents in this pretend marriage...and half of his heritage...

cold hard fact....children do better in a family with both their real mother and father....with two mommies you are missing the father....with single moms you are missing the father.....research has shown there are lots of negative results when the father is missing from the family...
 
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If Grace's parents had been two women, which one would she not have needed?


Two women can make a baby? Wow that's not what I learned....maybe it was just all that right wing religous propaganda.....if liberals say two women can make a kid, then all be dammed they can!!!!!!!!!!
 
Now there's a cogent response. :rolleyes:
it is cogent...change the definition of marriage...change the definition of Dad...change the definition of anything at your whim...a great foundation on which to build a nation.

How will the definition change? Was the definition of voting changed when blacks and women could do it?

My kids don't have a Dad, they have two parents who love them and a donor. The children I was a surrogate for haven't changed the definition of mother, they don't have one. They have two parents who love them and a couple of donors. (the egg and the oven). Children still will have mothers and fathers, even ours...because there is no "one size fits all" definition of what makes a FAMILY.

Marriage will still mean marriage even if more consenting adult relationships are included in the LEGAL definition and parenting will still mean parenting.


Yeah there is and has been for millenia....man woman....maybe we should all just grow up in free love based communes with not parental authority....EVERYONE's a parent....wooohoooo
 
Millions of children are being raised in same sex households, 40,000 in CA alone. 4% of all adoptions are by gays and lesbians.

Those children deserve the stability and security for their families that legal marriage provides.

The most important thing in a family is love. Children living with two people who love and care for each other makes for happy children. The gender of the parents is not the important component.

You'll get no argument from me. All the kids of gay parents I am in contact with are happy and well adjusted. The kids of divorced parents on the other hand...

It is the heterosexuals who think parents have to be of opposite sexes that are not well adjusted. Children should have strong female and male figures in their lives, but these people do not have to be the parents.
 
it is cogent...change the definition of marriage...change the definition of Dad...change the definition of anything at your whim...a great foundation on which to build a nation.

How will the definition change? Was the definition of voting changed when blacks and women could do it?

My kids don't have a Dad, they have two parents who love them and a donor. The children I was a surrogate for haven't changed the definition of mother, they don't have one. They have two parents who love them and a couple of donors. (the egg and the oven). Children still will have mothers and fathers, even ours...because there is no "one size fits all" definition of what makes a FAMILY.

Marriage will still mean marriage even if more consenting adult relationships are included in the LEGAL definition and parenting will still mean parenting.

blacks and women don't choose to be black or a woman......and it is definitely not a behavior or "orientation"....

cold hard fact....gays cannot prove their 'sexual orientation' is something they are born with...any more than a pedophile or an incestuous person can....all these so-called "sexual preferences" are still aberrations for whatever reason...they are not protected minority groups or a "suspect" class like race or sex...and so they don't warrant equal protection under the 14th...

cold hard fact....gays are born either a man or a woman just like everybody else.....calling them "legal" parents does not make them a mother and father and family....(don't bring up adoption)

cold hard fact.....gays must resort to a third party of the opposite sex to 'have' a child....this smacks of polygamy if you ask me....

cold hard fact.....the child is still missing one of his real parents in this pretend marriage...and half of his heritage...

cold hard fact....children do better in a family with both their real mother and father....with two mommies you are missing the father....with single moms you are missing the father.....research has shown there are lots of negative results when the father is missing from the family...

Cold hard fact, you are on ignorant homophobe, and possibly you should be called Screaming Queen.
 
Same sex marriage is not going to deprive this stupid 11 year old of either of her parents.

It's really pretty telling that YOU would call an 11 year old stupid rather than placing the blame for her statements where they belong. On her parents. I think both you and her parents are idiots, but for different reasons.

When will WE ALL stop using our children as pawns in our political games?
 
If Grace's parents had been two women, which one would she not have needed?


Two women can make a baby? Wow that's not what I learned....maybe it was just all that right wing religous propaganda.....if liberals say two women can make a kid, then all be dammed they can!!!!!!!!!!

So, parenting is all about the egg and sperm to you?
 
it is cogent...change the definition of marriage...change the definition of Dad...change the definition of anything at your whim...a great foundation on which to build a nation.

How will the definition change? Was the definition of voting changed when blacks and women could do it?

My kids don't have a Dad, they have two parents who love them and a donor. The children I was a surrogate for haven't changed the definition of mother, they don't have one. They have two parents who love them and a couple of donors. (the egg and the oven). Children still will have mothers and fathers, even ours...because there is no "one size fits all" definition of what makes a FAMILY.

Marriage will still mean marriage even if more consenting adult relationships are included in the LEGAL definition and parenting will still mean parenting.


Yeah there is and has been for millenia....man woman....maybe we should all just grow up in free love based communes with not parental authority....EVERYONE's a parent....wooohoooo

Welcome to the 21st century...do you think this world is full of bio father/bio mother families only?
 

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