White Nationalist Epithet Is A Smear

[boedicca]

It's only embarrassing to morons like you. Trump uses the word in its proper sense. Only commies in our public universities and their brainwashed minions believe there's something shameful about it. If you are against our government placing the interests of Americans above the interests of foreigners, you're a communist.

Naw, I just think it would be nice if the president of the United States didn’t casually announce he was a nationalist in a post WW2 age when white supremasists have been identifying as Nationalists. Especially when millions of people are taking offense of Trumps language and are questioning whether he is a racist. There shouldn’t be any question about that sort of thing with our president. It should be crystal clear, but I guess politics is war now a days. If he is fighting he is winning

Translation: The Left wants Trump to be a Leftie. Anything he does to the contrary is Racist-Sexist-Transphobic-Islamaphobic....

Incorrect. My statement doesn’t need your distorted translation, it speaks for itself. Stop injecting your bullshit to try and make others look wrong. It’s a petty and ineffective tactic

Here's a little story about that: No.

You Progs have bastardized our language, history and culture. I will continue to call you on as long as I decide to do so.

I’m sure you will do whatever the hell you want. It’s just amusing that you need make shit up and distort my statements because you are obviously not equipped with the smarts to use facts, intellect and honest arguments.

Answer this... how have progressives bastardized the term Nationalists?

You have perverted the term to be equated with Racism.

That's what you do. Turn decent American values and concepts into ugly things.

 

[Slade3200]

Well when marty says that only trump haters have a problem with the nationalism phrase and I post a video showing a conservative friend of Trump explaining the historical Context and why it’s not an appropriate phrase to use then it pretty much does fly in the face of Marty’s point. How can you disagree with that?

One guy.

One guy on TV expressing the sentiments of many. Did you watch the interview yet or find a transcript to read?

Tl;dr.

How about you voice your own opinion instead of linking others.

I didn’t voice my opinion but I’m a libtard by your standards so I don’t expect my opinion matters much to you. What I will do is call out your false statements and back up my counter arguments with links, videos, and logic which is what I just did. You’re missing a perspective in this conversation, I suggest you open your mind and try to learn something instead of doubling down on inaccurate statements

What false statement? I stated my view that only people who already hate Trump will really care about all this.

And I just showed a video of a Trump supporter, Not a Hater, that has a problem with Trump using the Nationalist term and then he laid out the history and reasoning behind his opinion. It’s called logic and having an understanding of history. Try it

 

[martybegan]

One guy.

One guy on TV expressing the sentiments of many. Did you watch the interview yet or find a transcript to read?

Tl;dr.

How about you voice your own opinion instead of linking others.

I didn’t voice my opinion but I’m a libtard by your standards so I don’t expect my opinion matters much to you. What I will do is call out your false statements and back up my counter arguments with links, videos, and logic which is what I just did. You’re missing a perspective in this conversation, I suggest you open your mind and try to learn something instead of doubling down on inaccurate statements

What false statement? I stated my view that only people who already hate Trump will really care about all this.

And I just showed a video of a Trump supporter, Not a Hater, that has a problem with Trump using the Nationalist term and then he laid out the history and reasoning behind his opinion. It’s called logic and having an understanding of history. Try it

he's wrong. Being on TV doesn't make you right.

He's playing right into their hands.

 

[Slade3200]

It doesn’t matter if you care or not, you shouldn’t be make stupid statements proclaiming that only Trump haters oppose him using the phrase nationalism. It’s just not an accurate statement.

It's not about opposing, it's about them caring about it due to them hating ANYTHING Trump does.

Only lefty prog-cucks get the pavlovian effect of nationalism = Hitler.

Some may feel that way, but there is substance behind the criticism that even Trump SUPPORTERS can feel, as I presented with the Scaramucci video

Don't care.

I refuse to let progs dictate the language.

How are progs dictating the language? If you could get out of your own way for a minute, educate yourself about history, and also see what’s happening in our modern society you might see that the type of people who are identifying themselves as nationalists. It isn’t a Lefty Label, it’s a term that white supremasists and Nazi identify themselves by.

They identify themselves as WHITE NATIONALISTS. Again I gave the example of racist punk/skinhead culture vs. non-racist punk/skinhead culture.

And when the left tries to remove terms like illegal alien from polite discussion, you have a perfect example of them trying to control the language.

Stop with the diversions. We aren’t talking about illegal aliens. You honestly think the term white nationalists and nationalists are that distinct and different? You haven’t seen white supremasist groups using just the term nationalists to identify themselves? Come on Marty, open your eyes.

 

[Slade3200]

Naw, I just think it would be nice if the president of the United States didn’t casually announce he was a nationalist in a post WW2 age when white supremasists have been identifying as Nationalists. Especially when millions of people are taking offense of Trumps language and are questioning whether he is a racist. There shouldn’t be any question about that sort of thing with our president. It should be crystal clear, but I guess politics is war now a days. If he is fighting he is winning

Translation: The Left wants Trump to be a Leftie. Anything he does to the contrary is Racist-Sexist-Transphobic-Islamaphobic....

Incorrect. My statement doesn’t need your distorted translation, it speaks for itself. Stop injecting your bullshit to try and make others look wrong. It’s a petty and ineffective tactic

Here's a little story about that: No.

You Progs have bastardized our language, history and culture. I will continue to call you on as long as I decide to do so.

I’m sure you will do whatever the hell you want. It’s just amusing that you need make shit up and distort my statements because you are obviously not equipped with the smarts to use facts, intellect and honest arguments.

Answer this... how have progressives bastardized the term Nationalists?

You have perverted the term to be equated with Racism.

That's what you do. Turn decent American values and concepts into ugly things.

How have I done that?

 

[martybegan]

It's not about opposing, it's about them caring about it due to them hating ANYTHING Trump does.

Only lefty prog-cucks get the pavlovian effect of nationalism = Hitler.

Some may feel that way, but there is substance behind the criticism that even Trump SUPPORTERS can feel, as I presented with the Scaramucci video

Don't care.

I refuse to let progs dictate the language.

How are progs dictating the language? If you could get out of your own way for a minute, educate yourself about history, and also see what’s happening in our modern society you might see that the type of people who are identifying themselves as nationalists. It isn’t a Lefty Label, it’s a term that white supremasists and Nazi identify themselves by.

They identify themselves as WHITE NATIONALISTS. Again I gave the example of racist punk/skinhead culture vs. non-racist punk/skinhead culture.

And when the left tries to remove terms like illegal alien from polite discussion, you have a perfect example of them trying to control the language.

Stop with the diversions. We aren’t talking about illegal aliens. You honestly think the term white nationalists and nationalists are that distinct and different? You haven’t seen white supremasist groups using just the term nationalists to identify themselves? Come on Marty, open your eyes.

We are talking about control of the language. You want to let lefties equate White power with any form of nationalism.

They are 100% different, especially in a multi-ethnic country like the United States.

You may be willing to be a cuck loser letting the other side define the rules. I don't play that.

 

[boedicca]

Translation: The Left wants Trump to be a Leftie. Anything he does to the contrary is Racist-Sexist-Transphobic-Islamaphobic....

Incorrect. My statement doesn’t need your distorted translation, it speaks for itself. Stop injecting your bullshit to try and make others look wrong. It’s a petty and ineffective tactic

Here's a little story about that: No.

You Progs have bastardized our language, history and culture. I will continue to call you on as long as I decide to do so.

I’m sure you will do whatever the hell you want. It’s just amusing that you need make shit up and distort my statements because you are obviously not equipped with the smarts to use facts, intellect and honest arguments.

Answer this... how have progressives bastardized the term Nationalists?

You have perverted the term to be equated with Racism.

That's what you do. Turn decent American values and concepts into ugly things.

How have I done that?

By supporting and promoting the Progressive new vocabulary and agenda.

 

[Slade3200]

One guy on TV expressing the sentiments of many. Did you watch the interview yet or find a transcript to read?

Tl;dr.

How about you voice your own opinion instead of linking others.

I didn’t voice my opinion but I’m a libtard by your standards so I don’t expect my opinion matters much to you. What I will do is call out your false statements and back up my counter arguments with links, videos, and logic which is what I just did. You’re missing a perspective in this conversation, I suggest you open your mind and try to learn something instead of doubling down on inaccurate statements

What false statement? I stated my view that only people who already hate Trump will really care about all this.

And I just showed a video of a Trump supporter, Not a Hater, that has a problem with Trump using the Nationalist term and then he laid out the history and reasoning behind his opinion. It’s called logic and having an understanding of history. Try it

he's wrong. Being on TV doesn't make you right.

He's playing right into their hands.

Did you watch the interview? What specifically is he wrong about?

 

[bendog]

I'm seeing the Left amping up their use of the epithet "White Nationalist" to smear any Caucasian who expresses patriotic views in support of the U.S. as a sovereign nation.

Calling someone a RACIST is worn out. Normal people see it for the fake "cry wolf" that it is. So now, the Prog-Dems are accusing Normal White people of being what is actually the roots of the Prog-Dem ideology: Neo-KKK.

Don't be fooled. The Real White Racists are the Democrat-Prog descendants of the Democrat Ku Klux Klan.

Who could possibly be so ignorant and so fuking stupid, they would think President Lincoln would belong to a Confederate Party?

By GAWD we wunndt ah taken him.

 

[martybegan]

Tl;dr.

How about you voice your own opinion instead of linking others.

I didn’t voice my opinion but I’m a libtard by your standards so I don’t expect my opinion matters much to you. What I will do is call out your false statements and back up my counter arguments with links, videos, and logic which is what I just did. You’re missing a perspective in this conversation, I suggest you open your mind and try to learn something instead of doubling down on inaccurate statements

What false statement? I stated my view that only people who already hate Trump will really care about all this.

And I just showed a video of a Trump supporter, Not a Hater, that has a problem with Trump using the Nationalist term and then he laid out the history and reasoning behind his opinion. It’s called logic and having an understanding of history. Try it

he's wrong. Being on TV doesn't make you right.

He's playing right into their hands.

Did you watch the interview? What specifically is he wrong about?

I don't have to. It's surrender pure and simple.

 

[Slade3200]

Some may feel that way, but there is substance behind the criticism that even Trump SUPPORTERS can feel, as I presented with the Scaramucci video

Don't care.

I refuse to let progs dictate the language.

How are progs dictating the language? If you could get out of your own way for a minute, educate yourself about history, and also see what’s happening in our modern society you might see that the type of people who are identifying themselves as nationalists. It isn’t a Lefty Label, it’s a term that white supremasists and Nazi identify themselves by.

They identify themselves as WHITE NATIONALISTS. Again I gave the example of racist punk/skinhead culture vs. non-racist punk/skinhead culture.

And when the left tries to remove terms like illegal alien from polite discussion, you have a perfect example of them trying to control the language.

Stop with the diversions. We aren’t talking about illegal aliens. You honestly think the term white nationalists and nationalists are that distinct and different? You haven’t seen white supremasist groups using just the term nationalists to identify themselves? Come on Marty, open your eyes.

We are talking about control of the language. You want to let lefties equate White power with any form of nationalism.

They are 100% different, especially in a multi-ethnic country like the United States.

You may be willing to be a cuck loser letting the other side define the rules. I don't play that.

Cool man, go ahead and play your own game then. Wear that nationalist badge with honor and let the rest of the country see how much of a tough independent winner you are!!!

 

[BlindBoo]

What you just said doesn’t counter what I said. I didn’t say anything about parties. I just brought up the historical context of the term nationalism

Are you dense it puts the term National Socialist in its proper context. The term National Socialist did not exist until it was invented by the founders of the National Socialist German Workers Party. It is used to associate those it names National Socialist with the National Socialist German Workers Party. In other words those so named are Hitler lovers.

Fascist regimes like Franco's, Mussolini's, and Hitler's all hated Liberal Socialist.

The National Socialist German Workers Party were socialists and they hated communists with every cell of their being. How long will you deny the truth? Socialists are so frightened of being associated with the National Socialist German Workers Party through socialism they go to extraordinary lengths trying to deny that association. As far as Franco and Mussolini hating socialists I was never interested enough in those bit players find out.

The Nazi's were fascist and hated all others including Socialist and Communist. Franco was Hitler's testing ground. Any discussion about the Nazi/Fascist that ignores their alliance is bound to as fruitless as talking to someone who thinks today's Democratic Socialist are somehow linked to the German Nazis.

That's the Prog Spin. Communism-Socialist-Fascism and their offshoots are all Authoritarian-Totalitarian Ideology. The Left has desperately spun the propaganda that Fascism is righwing. It's not. It is totalitarian and part of your ideological universe.

In reality, it wasn't until Goldberg's twisted history came out that spun the Nazi-Fascism into liberals.

Perspective | There is nothing liberal about fascism

 

[BlindBoo]

What you just said doesn’t counter what I said. I didn’t say anything about parties. I just brought up the historical context of the term nationalism

Are you dense it puts the term National Socialist in its proper context. The term National Socialist did not exist until it was invented by the founders of the National Socialist German Workers Party. It is used to associate those it names National Socialist with the National Socialist German Workers Party. In other words those so named are Hitler lovers.

Fascist regimes like Franco's, Mussolini's, and Hitler's all hated Liberal Socialist.

The National Socialist German Workers Party were socialists and they hated communists with every cell of their being. How long will you deny the truth? Socialists are so frightened of being associated with the National Socialist German Workers Party through socialism they go to extraordinary lengths trying to deny that association. As far as Franco and Mussolini hating socialists I was never interested enough in those bit players find out.

The Nazi's were fascist and hated all others including Socialist and Communist. Franco was Hitler's testing ground. Any discussion about the Nazi/Fascist that ignores their alliance is bound to as fruitless as talking to someone who thinks today's Democratic Socialist are somehow linked to the German Nazis.

That's the Prog Spin. Communism-Socialist-Fascism and their offshoots are all Authoritarian-Totalitarian Ideology. The Left has desperately spun the propaganda that Fascism is righwing. It's not. It is totalitarian and part of your ideological universe.

In reality, it wasn't until Goldberg's twisted history came out that spun the Nazi-Fascism into liberals.

Perspective | There is nothing liberal about fascism

 

[martybegan]

Don't care.

I refuse to let progs dictate the language.

How are progs dictating the language? If you could get out of your own way for a minute, educate yourself about history, and also see what’s happening in our modern society you might see that the type of people who are identifying themselves as nationalists. It isn’t a Lefty Label, it’s a term that white supremasists and Nazi identify themselves by.

They identify themselves as WHITE NATIONALISTS. Again I gave the example of racist punk/skinhead culture vs. non-racist punk/skinhead culture.

And when the left tries to remove terms like illegal alien from polite discussion, you have a perfect example of them trying to control the language.

Stop with the diversions. We aren’t talking about illegal aliens. You honestly think the term white nationalists and nationalists are that distinct and different? You haven’t seen white supremasist groups using just the term nationalists to identify themselves? Come on Marty, open your eyes.

We are talking about control of the language. You want to let lefties equate White power with any form of nationalism.

They are 100% different, especially in a multi-ethnic country like the United States.

You may be willing to be a cuck loser letting the other side define the rules. I don't play that.

Cool man, go ahead and play your own game then. Wear that nationalist badge with honor and let the rest of the country see how much of a tough independent winner you are!!!

And keep letting other people dictate the language of the arguments, and die peacefully like the wimpy cuck NPC you are.

 

[Slade3200]

Incorrect. My statement doesn’t need your distorted translation, it speaks for itself. Stop injecting your bullshit to try and make others look wrong. It’s a petty and ineffective tactic

Here's a little story about that: No.

You Progs have bastardized our language, history and culture. I will continue to call you on as long as I decide to do so.

I’m sure you will do whatever the hell you want. It’s just amusing that you need make shit up and distort my statements because you are obviously not equipped with the smarts to use facts, intellect and honest arguments.

Answer this... how have progressives bastardized the term Nationalists?

You have perverted the term to be equated with Racism.

That's what you do. Turn decent American values and concepts into ugly things.

How have I done that?

By supporting and promoting the Progressive new vocabulary and agenda.

How is it a progressive new vocabulary? The term has been used by Nazis for decades and more recently by White Supremisist groups to self identify. Are you calling these groups progressives?

 

[boedicca]

Are you dense it puts the term National Socialist in its proper context. The term National Socialist did not exist until it was invented by the founders of the National Socialist German Workers Party. It is used to associate those it names National Socialist with the National Socialist German Workers Party. In other words those so named are Hitler lovers.

Fascist regimes like Franco's, Mussolini's, and Hitler's all hated Liberal Socialist.

The National Socialist German Workers Party were socialists and they hated communists with every cell of their being. How long will you deny the truth? Socialists are so frightened of being associated with the National Socialist German Workers Party through socialism they go to extraordinary lengths trying to deny that association. As far as Franco and Mussolini hating socialists I was never interested enough in those bit players find out.

The Nazi's were fascist and hated all others including Socialist and Communist. Franco was Hitler's testing ground. Any discussion about the Nazi/Fascist that ignores their alliance is bound to as fruitless as talking to someone who thinks today's Democratic Socialist are somehow linked to the German Nazis.

That's the Prog Spin. Communism-Socialist-Fascism and their offshoots are all Authoritarian-Totalitarian Ideology. The Left has desperately spun the propaganda that Fascism is righwing. It's not. It is totalitarian and part of your ideological universe.

In reality, it wasn't until Goldberg's twisted history came out that spun the Nazi-Fascism into liberals.

Perspective | There is nothing liberal about fascism

There's nothing Liberal about present day Liberal-Progressive Democrats.

You can spin all you want. What Nazism is is Totalitarianism. Just like your Progressivism.

 

[boedicca]

Here's a little story about that: No.

You Progs have bastardized our language, history and culture. I will continue to call you on as long as I decide to do so.

I’m sure you will do whatever the hell you want. It’s just amusing that you need make shit up and distort my statements because you are obviously not equipped with the smarts to use facts, intellect and honest arguments.

Answer this... how have progressives bastardized the term Nationalists?

You have perverted the term to be equated with Racism.

That's what you do. Turn decent American values and concepts into ugly things.

How have I done that?

By supporting and promoting the Progressive new vocabulary and agenda.

How is it a progressive new vocabulary? The term has been used by Nazis for decades and more recently by White Supremisist groups to self identify. Are you calling these groups progressives?

I suggest you actually read up on how the meaning of words has been twisted by the Left over the past century.

 

[Slade3200]

I didn’t voice my opinion but I’m a libtard by your standards so I don’t expect my opinion matters much to you. What I will do is call out your false statements and back up my counter arguments with links, videos, and logic which is what I just did. You’re missing a perspective in this conversation, I suggest you open your mind and try to learn something instead of doubling down on inaccurate statements

What false statement? I stated my view that only people who already hate Trump will really care about all this.

And I just showed a video of a Trump supporter, Not a Hater, that has a problem with Trump using the Nationalist term and then he laid out the history and reasoning behind his opinion. It’s called logic and having an understanding of history. Try it

he's wrong. Being on TV doesn't make you right.

He's playing right into their hands.

Did you watch the interview? What specifically is he wrong about?

I don't have to. It's surrender pure and simple.

Haha. Just what I thought. You are arguing from a position of ignorance. How in the word can you make a judgement that somebody is wrong if you haven’t even heard what they said. You are a complete joke. How is anybody supposed to take anything you say seriously.

 

[martybegan]

What false statement? I stated my view that only people who already hate Trump will really care about all this.

And I just showed a video of a Trump supporter, Not a Hater, that has a problem with Trump using the Nationalist term and then he laid out the history and reasoning behind his opinion. It’s called logic and having an understanding of history. Try it

he's wrong. Being on TV doesn't make you right.

He's playing right into their hands.

Did you watch the interview? What specifically is he wrong about?

I don't have to. It's surrender pure and simple.

Haha. Just what I thought. You are arguing from a position of ignorance. How in the word can you make a judgement that somebody is wrong if you haven’t even heard what they said. You are a complete joke. How is anybody supposed to take anything you say seriously.

You explained his position, it's wrong on it's face. Being a Nationalist is closer to being patriotic than being a white nationalist.

But then people let the left control the language and you get apologists like that asshat giving up the ghost.

 

[Slade3200]

I’m sure you will do whatever the hell you want. It’s just amusing that you need make shit up and distort my statements because you are obviously not equipped with the smarts to use facts, intellect and honest arguments.

Answer this... how have progressives bastardized the term Nationalists?

You have perverted the term to be equated with Racism.

That's what you do. Turn decent American values and concepts into ugly things.

How have I done that?

By supporting and promoting the Progressive new vocabulary and agenda.

How is it a progressive new vocabulary? The term has been used by Nazis for decades and more recently by White Supremisist groups to self identify. Are you calling these groups progressives?

I suggest you actually read up on how the meaning of words has been twisted by the Left over the past century.

What I see when I read up is a long history of Nazi and communist disctaors using that label and ideology to rally support for their oppressive regimes. I also see white supremasist groups in this country adopting the term for their own ideology as well. Are you denying that these things actually happened?