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This seems to be the hot term these days, but can anyone define it?
If so, please do.
Also, who are the Establishment Republicans in office? How about in the media? Can we get some names?
Finally, do we have any local Establishment Republicans here on USMB, self-proclaimed or otherwise?
I'm looking for some clarity here.
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It's basically the non libertarian, non hard-core social conservative wing of the the Republican party. Corporatist is another good name.
Actually even the Libertarians qualify as Establishment Republicans as the tend to vote Liberal in many cases (ie... drug laws). I wish the Corporatist comment wasn't as true as it probably is, since I see no need for Corporate involvement in Government.
Corporations are people too (sarcasm).
This seems to be the hot term these days, but can anyone define it?
If so, please do.
Also, who are the Establishment Republicans in office? How about in the media? Can we get some names?
Establishment Republicans are moderate/centrist legislators who have all too often sided with Liberal Democrats rather than standing for Conservative ideals. The term is similar to RINO and means close to the aame thing.
The vast majority, anf almost entirety of the non-Tea Party Republican majority in Washington meet these criteria.
I have my doubts that the vast majority is in tune with liberal or progressive Democrats. And anyone who finds Objectivism and fiscal conservatism sane and safe is a fool. Fiscal responsibility is needed, not patching the roof is insane.
They vote "liberal" in the older, classical sense, not in the current progressive statist sense.
They vote WITH Democrats and AGAINST Law and Order. I will leave it at that.
We are against government owning the bodies of it's citizens. The appropriate role of government is to protect you from the actions of other people, not to give you the power to force them what to do with their own bodies.
How's that working out for you? You're funding the mob, causing shootouts and murders in inner cities, giving the government a massive tool to pry into our finances without a warrant and destabilizing governments across the world. Oh, and we still have the drugs...
We are against government owning the bodies of it's citizens. The appropriate role of government is to protect you from the actions of other people, not to give you the power to force them what to do with their own bodies.
You keave choices,to pwople who have repeatedly proven they make the WRONG choices. The Government is there to enfirce Right and Wrong because the vast majority of Americans can't define the terms, nevermind live by them.
How's that working out for you? You're funding the mob, causing shootouts and murders in inner cities, giving the government a massive tool to pry into our finances without a warrant and destabilizing governments across the world. Oh, and we still have the drugs...
I grew up around the Mob. I respect THEM far more than your Government. Let the mongrels,on the ghettos purge themselves. It saves us,the trouble. If you're Righteous you have nothing to worry about and I literally couldn't care less about other nations stability. We still have drugs because we ardently refuse to actually PUNISH criminals.
You respect the mob more than government, and you think it's the job of government to "enforce Right and Wrong" (sic). You are one confused hombre.
So funding the mob, destabilizing governments from Columbia to Afghanistan, giving the government the power to pour over your financial information without a warrant and still having the drugs, none of that bothers you, huh?
I do like your attitude though. Dude, you're putting drugs in your body, I'll fix you, I'll put your body in jail! That'll teach you what to do with your body. Bam!
You respect the mob more than government, and you think it's the job of government to "enforce Right and Wrong" (sic). You are one confused hombre.
The mob has rules, expectations, a heirarchy, and expectations of everyone involved. Failure and impropriety are swiftly, brutally, and permanently punished. All things our Government could learn from.
So funding the mob, destabilizing governments from Columbia to Afghanistan, giving the government the power to pour over your financial information without a warrant and still having the drugs, none of that bothers you, huh?
Parts of it bother me. We shoild have judt nuked Afghanistan and Iraq instead if wasting American lives there. I don't LIKE funding the Mob (they have plenty of private funding), but it keeps money out of the hands of the Department of Education and other useless spending. If havibg the Feds pour through everyone's finances and email stops a single crime, it's worth it.
I do like your attitude though. Dude, you're putting drugs in your body, I'll fix you, I'll put your body in jail! That'll teach you what to do with your body. Bam!
Who's talking jail?....
Officer: Dispatch, I have an apparent drug possession here.
Dispatch: Officer, please conduct field testing
(Pause)
Officer: Dispatch, field test indicates the presence of (insert drug).
Dispatch: Office, I understand you hace confirmed the presence of (drug). Please carry out sentenxe.
Officer: (Bang! Bang! Bang!) Dispatch, sentence carried out. Please send clean-up crew to this location.
You love the mob, get your morality from the government and want to shoot people who put drugs in their own bodies, got it
This seems to be the hot term these days, but can anyone define it?
If so, please do.
Also, who are the Establishment Republicans in office? How about in the media? Can we get some names?
Establishment Republicans are moderate/centrist legislators who have all too often sided with Liberal Democrats rather than standing for Conservative ideals. The term is similar to RINO and means close to the aame thing.
The vast majority, anf almost entirety of the non-Tea Party Republican majority in Washington meet these criteria.
I have my doubts that the vast majority is in tune with liberal or progressive Democrats. And anyone who finds Objectivism and fiscal conservatism sane and safe is a fool. Fiscal responsibility is needed, not patching the roof is insane.
you realize if you don't know what a fiscal conservative is, you could have googled the word rather than posting that you don't know what it means, no?
You love the mob, get your morality from the government and want to shoot people who put drugs in their own bodies, got it
I Respect the Mob. I want the Government to enforce Morality (not define it, that was done millenia ago) and I want to see all drug users, moral and violent criminals executed.
So you got 1/3 right.
This seems to be the hot term these days, but can anyone define it?
If so, please do.
Also, who are the Establishment Republicans in office? How about in the media? Can we get some names?
Establishment Republicans are moderate/centrist legislators who have all too often sided with Liberal Democrats rather than standing for Conservative ideals. The term is similar to RINO and means close to the aame thing.
The vast majority, anf almost entirety of the non-Tea Party Republican majority in Washington meet these criteria.
I have my doubts that the vast majority is in tune with liberal or progressive Democrats. And anyone who finds Objectivism and fiscal conservatism sane and safe is a fool. Fiscal responsibility is needed, not patching the roof is insane.
you realize if you don't know what a fiscal conservative is, you could have googled the word rather than posting that you don't know what it means, no?
As every educated person knows, words have meanings beyond dictionary definitions because of context. Example, the word "Asshole".
You Kaz are an asshole; everyone has an asshole. Get it?
And BTW, it was Mitt Romney who originally made the statement in question, as informed people know.
But I digress, the fact is there is a difference between a tea party fiscal conservative and a responsible conservative. The former is a myopic fool, and the latter is informed, pragmatic and sagacious.
This seems to be the hot term these days, but can anyone define it?
If so, please do.
Also, who are the Establishment Republicans in office? How about in the media? Can we get some names?
Establishment Republicans are moderate/centrist legislators who have all too often sided with Liberal Democrats rather than standing for Conservative ideals. The term is similar to RINO and means close to the aame thing.
The vast majority, anf almost entirety of the non-Tea Party Republican majority in Washington meet these criteria.
I have my doubts that the vast majority is in tune with liberal or progressive Democrats. And anyone who finds Objectivism and fiscal conservatism sane and safe is a fool. Fiscal responsibility is needed, not patching the roof is insane.
you realize if you don't know what a fiscal conservative is, you could have googled the word rather than posting that you don't know what it means, no?
As every educated person knows, words have meanings beyond dictionary definitions because of context. Example, the word "Asshole".
You Kaz are an asshole; everyone has an asshole. Get it?
And BTW, it was Mitt Romney who originally made the statement in question, as informed people know.
But I digress, the fact is there is a difference between a tea party fiscal conservative and a responsible conservative. The former is a myopic fool, and the latter is informed, pragmatic and sagacious.
When you say fiscal conservatives don't want to "patch the roof," that proved you don't know what a fiscal conservative is. You're describing an anarchist, moron, you have no idea what fiscal conservatism is. Not fixing the roof is more costly than fixing it. So say for example, we want roads (we aren't anarchists, idiot) and we want to maintain them (idiot). What we don't want to do is pave your driveway for you so you don't have to pay for it yourself
You'll find very little difference on fiscal policy.This seems to be the hot term these days, but can anyone define it?
If so, please do.
Also, who are the Establishment Republicans in office? How about in the media? Can we get some names?
Finally, do we have any local Establishment Republicans here on USMB, self-proclaimed or otherwise?
I'm looking for some clarity here.
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You just want the people who make $30k a year to pay more to fix the roof so trump can pay less.This seems to be the hot term these days, but can anyone define it?
If so, please do.
Also, who are the Establishment Republicans in office? How about in the media? Can we get some names?
Establishment Republicans are moderate/centrist legislators who have all too often sided with Liberal Democrats rather than standing for Conservative ideals. The term is similar to RINO and means close to the aame thing.
The vast majority, anf almost entirety of the non-Tea Party Republican majority in Washington meet these criteria.
I have my doubts that the vast majority is in tune with liberal or progressive Democrats. And anyone who finds Objectivism and fiscal conservatism sane and safe is a fool. Fiscal responsibility is needed, not patching the roof is insane.
you realize if you don't know what a fiscal conservative is, you could have googled the word rather than posting that you don't know what it means, no?
As every educated person knows, words have meanings beyond dictionary definitions because of context. Example, the word "Asshole".
You Kaz are an asshole; everyone has an asshole. Get it?
And BTW, it was Mitt Romney who originally made the statement in question, as informed people know.
But I digress, the fact is there is a difference between a tea party fiscal conservative and a responsible conservative. The former is a myopic fool, and the latter is informed, pragmatic and sagacious.
When you say fiscal conservatives don't want to "patch the roof," that proved you don't know what a fiscal conservative is. You're describing an anarchist, moron, you have no idea what fiscal conservatism is. Not fixing the roof is more costly than fixing it. So say for example, we want roads (we aren't anarchists, idiot) and we want to maintain them (idiot). What we don't want to do is pave your driveway for you so you don't have to pay for it yourself
Establishment Republicans are moderate/centrist legislators who have all too often sided with Liberal Democrats rather than standing for Conservative ideals. The term is similar to RINO and means close to the aame thing.
The vast majority, anf almost entirety of the non-Tea Party Republican majority in Washington meet these criteria.
I have my doubts that the vast majority is in tune with liberal or progressive Democrats. And anyone who finds Objectivism and fiscal conservatism sane and safe is a fool. Fiscal responsibility is needed, not patching the roof is insane.
you realize if you don't know what a fiscal conservative is, you could have googled the word rather than posting that you don't know what it means, no?
As every educated person knows, words have meanings beyond dictionary definitions because of context. Example, the word "Asshole".
You Kaz are an asshole; everyone has an asshole. Get it?
And BTW, it was Mitt Romney who originally made the statement in question, as informed people know.
But I digress, the fact is there is a difference between a tea party fiscal conservative and a responsible conservative. The former is a myopic fool, and the latter is informed, pragmatic and sagacious.
When you say fiscal conservatives don't want to "patch the roof," that proved you don't know what a fiscal conservative is. You're describing an anarchist, moron, you have no idea what fiscal conservatism is. Not fixing the roof is more costly than fixing it. So say for example, we want roads (we aren't anarchists, idiot) and we want to maintain them (idiot). What we don't want to do is pave your driveway for you so you don't have to pay for it yourself
Shutting down the government and cutting SS and Medicare have fiscal consequences, as informed and thinking people know! They cost local and state governments and the citizens who rely on these programs as informed and thinking people know. Passing a three year highway bill instead of a six year program is fiscally irresponsible, as thinking people know.
Your points are just quibbles with what I said
Your points are just quibbles with what I said
The Devil is (always) in the Details.
I have my doubts that the vast majority is in tune with liberal or progressive Democrats. And anyone who finds Objectivism and fiscal conservatism sane and safe is a fool. Fiscal responsibility is needed, not patching the roof is insane.
you realize if you don't know what a fiscal conservative is, you could have googled the word rather than posting that you don't know what it means, no?
As every educated person knows, words have meanings beyond dictionary definitions because of context. Example, the word "Asshole".
You Kaz are an asshole; everyone has an asshole. Get it?
And BTW, it was Mitt Romney who originally made the statement in question, as informed people know.
But I digress, the fact is there is a difference between a tea party fiscal conservative and a responsible conservative. The former is a myopic fool, and the latter is informed, pragmatic and sagacious.
When you say fiscal conservatives don't want to "patch the roof," that proved you don't know what a fiscal conservative is. You're describing an anarchist, moron, you have no idea what fiscal conservatism is. Not fixing the roof is more costly than fixing it. So say for example, we want roads (we aren't anarchists, idiot) and we want to maintain them (idiot). What we don't want to do is pave your driveway for you so you don't have to pay for it yourself
Shutting down the government and cutting SS and Medicare have fiscal consequences, as informed and thinking people know! They cost local and state governments and the citizens who rely on these programs as informed and thinking people know. Passing a three year highway bill instead of a six year program is fiscally irresponsible, as thinking people know.
Right, so a fiscal conservative would cave and spend whatever leftists demand so you don't shut down government again. Yeah .. um ... no ...
What about machine gun nests for jaywalkers?
