Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

[P F Tinmore]

the Israeli War of Independence of 1948-49

Independent from what?

 

[P F Tinmore]

the rejection of partition in 1947

What was to be partitioned?

Why was it rejected?

 

[rylah]

the Israeli War of Independence of 1948-49

Independent from what?

Recovering a sovereign nation, free in its' land. Independence from captivity of Jerusalem.

 

[rylah]

the rejection of partition in 1947

What was to be partitioned?

Why was it rejected?

Palestine and Jewish Homeland, the mandate, the land ,the rule whatever term You choose.
It was rejected because from both sides' point of view - it was done by a foreign rule. And added to that both Arabs and Jews considered themselves strangers to the land. Jews were more realistic.

No matter how thin You slice it, always two sides.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Women, children and men of Aida refugee camp in Bethlehem expel the Israeli army after trying to arrest a young man.

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[Sixties Fan]

the rejection of partition in 1947

What was to be partitioned?

Why was it rejected?

Palestine and Jewish Homeland, the mandate, the land ,the rule whatever term You choose.
It was rejected because from both sides' point of view - it was done by a foreign rule. And added to that both Arabs and Jews considered themselves strangers to the land. Jews were more realistic.

No matter how thin You slice it, always two sides.

Which Jews considered themselves strangers to the land?
It was their ancient homeland, and they were recreating their sovereign Nation.
Only the Arabs rejected the Partition of what was left of the Mandate.
Both in 1937 and 1947 because of Islamic beliefs. Nothing else.

 

[Sixties Fan]

LOL, She "violently shoved the student" LOL

Some shoving.

It is all there in color and still.....the woman "shoved the student"

Such a beautifully edited video.

The woman with the IDF "charged" a student. She "violently" attacked him.

Not what it looks like.....
Where is the rest of this Pallywood show?

Such Pallywood. The best fake studio in the world.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Here is one better:

Now, Students Supporting Israel is calling on the university to suspend the Palestinian support group for an academic year and took to Facebook to encourage students to email UCI Vice Chancellor Thomas Parham.

“We want the university to take action against them and the students involved,” Kevin Brum, president of Students Supporting Israel, said Tuesday. “They received a warning last year and they (interrupted) our event again. There’s a clear and present pattern to clearly disrupt.”

UCI reviews pro-Palestinian student group’s protest during Israeli veterans panel

Repeat offenders.
Did not simply sit down and respect the venue.
Became confrontational.

As I said, Pallywood to a T.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Here is some more about that UCI event:

Sophomore Eliana Kopley had just left a Holocaust-related event when she was walking toward the facility featuring a screening of “Beneath the Helmet,” a documentary about the Israel Defense Forces. As she arrived at the event hosted by Students Supporting Israel, Ms. Kopley was met by an angry crowd pounding on the doors and windows—engaged in violent chants targeting the Jewish state.
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With the crowd physically forbidding Ms. Kopley from attending the event and chants inciting violence against Jews and Israel such as “Intifada, Intifada—Long live the Intifada!” and “F**k Israel!” Ms. Kopley walked away from the scene.


(full article online)

Jewish Woman Forced to Hide From Anti-Israel Activists at UC-Irvine

Peaceful SJP just doing what they think they have the right to do.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Here is one better:

Now, Students Supporting Israel is calling on the university to suspend the Palestinian support group for an academic year and took to Facebook to encourage students to email UCI Vice Chancellor Thomas Parham.

“We want the university to take action against them and the students involved,” Kevin Brum, president of Students Supporting Israel, said Tuesday. “They received a warning last year and they (interrupted) our event again. There’s a clear and present pattern to clearly disrupt.”

UCI reviews pro-Palestinian student group’s protest during Israeli veterans panel

Repeat offenders.
Did not simply sit down and respect the venue.
Became confrontational.

As I said, Pallywood to a T.

Why would anyone want war criminals pimping their propaganda on US campuses?

 

[montelatici]

the Israeli War of Independence of 1948-49

Independent from what?

Recovering a sovereign nation, free in its' land. Independence from captivity of Jerusalem.

It was a settler colonial invasion undertaken through the support of the British. No more, no less. Trying to claim the European invasion and colonization of Palestine is different from any other European colonial project is bullshit.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Here is one better:

Now, Students Supporting Israel is calling on the university to suspend the Palestinian support group for an academic year and took to Facebook to encourage students to email UCI Vice Chancellor Thomas Parham.

“We want the university to take action against them and the students involved,” Kevin Brum, president of Students Supporting Israel, said Tuesday. “They received a warning last year and they (interrupted) our event again. There’s a clear and present pattern to clearly disrupt.”

UCI reviews pro-Palestinian student group’s protest during Israeli veterans panel

Repeat offenders.
Did not simply sit down and respect the venue.
Became confrontational.

As I said, Pallywood to a T.

Why would anyone want war criminals pimping their propaganda on US campuses?

The already warned SJP were the pimps in this case.
Not only they were warned to not interrupt any other pro Israel or anything else on campus, they were shown to be violent by chanting incitements against anyone who attempted to go to that event.

Pay attention.

The war criminals are on the Arab/Muslim side. You simply choose not to notice it.

All thanks to "Pallywood" !!!

 

[Hollie]

the Israeli War of Independence of 1948-49

Independent from what?

Recovering a sovereign nation, free in its' land. Independence from captivity of Jerusalem.

It was a settler colonial invasion undertaken through the support of the British. No more, no less. Trying to claim the European invasion and colonization of Palestine is different from any other European colonial project is bullshit.

I find no historical (vs. your hysterical) claim to support your nonsense "invasion" meme. It's remarkable that you just make stuff up and expect others to accept your hysterics as anything but nonsense.

 

[Shusha]

Trying to claim the European invasion and colonization of Palestine is different from any other European colonial project is bullshit.

Actually, the opposite is true. Trying to pretend that the Jewish return to their ancestral homeland is in any way equivalent to invasion and colonization by exploitative, dominant cultures is bullshit.

 

[montelatici]

Trying to claim the European invasion and colonization of Palestine is different from any other European colonial project is bullshit.

Actually, the opposite is true. Trying to pretend that the Jewish return to their ancestral homeland is in any way equivalent to invasion and colonization by exploitative, dominant cultures is bullshit.

Just because the invading settler colonists practiced Judaism, doesn't change the facts. The European Jews stated formally they planned to colonize Palestine with British help, subjugating the native people was a side issue.

 

[Shusha]

Trying to claim the European invasion and colonization of Palestine is different from any other European colonial project is bullshit.

Actually, the opposite is true. Trying to pretend that the Jewish return to their ancestral homeland is in any way equivalent to invasion and colonization by exploitative, dominant cultures is bullshit.

Just because the invading settler colonists practiced Judaism, doesn't change the facts. The European Jews stated formally they planned to colonize Palestine with British help, subjugating the native people was a side issue.

There is a fundamental difference between returning to one's ancestral homeland and Imperialist invasion and colonization. Trying to make those things equivalent because they are Jooooos rings hollow, at best, and venomously antisemitic at worse.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Trying to claim the European invasion and colonization of Palestine is different from any other European colonial project is bullshit.

Actually, the opposite is true. Trying to pretend that the Jewish return to their ancestral homeland is in any way equivalent to invasion and colonization by exploitative, dominant cultures is bullshit.

Just because the invading settler colonists practiced Judaism, doesn't change the facts. The European Jews stated formally they planned to colonize Palestine with British help, subjugating the native people was a side issue.

There is a fundamental difference between returning to one's ancestral homeland and Imperialist invasion and colonization. Trying to make those things equivalent because they are Jooooos rings hollow, at best, and venomously antisemitic at worse.

Do any of those Jews "returning" have any evidence that they have ancestors from that territory?

 

[Hollie]

Trying to claim the European invasion and colonization of Palestine is different from any other European colonial project is bullshit.

Actually, the opposite is true. Trying to pretend that the Jewish return to their ancestral homeland is in any way equivalent to invasion and colonization by exploitative, dominant cultures is bullshit.

Just because the invading settler colonists practiced Judaism, doesn't change the facts. The European Jews stated formally they planned to colonize Palestine with British help, subjugating the native people was a side issue.

Well, similarly, just because the invading, settler colonists as represented by the Turks, Islamist hordes and European xtian Crusaders practiced various religions doesn't change the facts.

Do you know what facts are?

 

[Shusha]

Do any of those Jews "returning" have any evidence that they have ancestors from that territory?

What would you require for "proof" that could be applied objectively and universally?

For example, how would you apply the concept of "proof" to First Nations Americans? Or to Catalans? Or to Kurds? Or to Scots? Or, for that matter, to "Palestinians"?