Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

[rylah]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, Sixties Fan, et al,

BLUF: Well before 2030 (about a decade from now), most of the "Old Guard" of Fatah, Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS), Palestine Islamic Jihad (PIJ), Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine – General Command (PFLP-GC), Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP) and other lesser groups, will have dissolved (if not already faded away) and either become only of a historical threat; or evolved into evolved into something altogether different (if not already).

Just How Do You Measure The Level Of Democracy In A Terrorist State? (Daled Amos) ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

The PA is a bantustan government.

(REFERENCE NOTE)

Life expectancy at birth: for the total population in the West Bank is: 74.54 years

✦ Male: 72.54 years
✦ Female: 76.65​

Life expectancy at birth: for the total population in the Gaza Strip is: 74.4 years (2018 est.)

✦ Male: 72.7 years (2018 est.)
✦ Female: 76.2 years (2018 est.)
​

✪ Data from CIA Factbooks.

(COMMENT)

Just as the Mahmoud Abbas (President of the Palestinian Authority) is already past 80 years of age.

✦ Hamas leader in Gaza Ismail Haniyeh is over 55 and just assumed the position from Khaled Mashal age 62.
✦ The Palestine Islamic Jihad Leader is Ramadan Shalah; is now age 60.
✦ Ahmad Sa’adat, the General Secretary of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine; and is 65 years old.
✦ Nayef Hawatmeh is the President of the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine; and is 80 years old.​

The leadership positions will soon change. And with that change we do not know yet what changes in Arab Palestinian Policies these new leaders (yet to be determined) will have on the survival of the respective organizations.

Most Respectfully,
R

Abbas is about 85 now. The Palestinians have wanted him to leave for many years. All of his old cronies should leave too. They are all leaders of the past.

I cant think of many people who would be a good president. Here is one I have been looking at:

Mustafa Barghouti (born 1 January 1954) is a Palestinian physician, activist, and politician who serves as General Secretary of the Palestinian National Initiative (PNI), also known as al Mubadara. He has been a member of the Palestinian Legislative Council since 2006 and is also a member of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) Central Council. In 2007, Barghouti was Minister of Information in the Palestinian unity government.

Mustafa Barghouti - Wikipedia

And how many of those have actual credentials to run a state?
Your link doesn't show Barghouti even ran a hospital...

 

[Hollie]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, Sixties Fan, et al,

BLUF: Well before 2030 (about a decade from now), most of the "Old Guard" of Fatah, Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS), Palestine Islamic Jihad (PIJ), Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine – General Command (PFLP-GC), Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP) and other lesser groups, will have dissolved (if not already faded away) and either become only of a historical threat; or evolved into evolved into something altogether different (if not already).

Just How Do You Measure The Level Of Democracy In A Terrorist State? (Daled Amos) ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

The PA is a bantustan government.

(REFERENCE NOTE)

Life expectancy at birth: for the total population in the West Bank is: 74.54 years

✦ Male: 72.54 years
✦ Female: 76.65​

Life expectancy at birth: for the total population in the Gaza Strip is: 74.4 years (2018 est.)

✦ Male: 72.7 years (2018 est.)
✦ Female: 76.2 years (2018 est.)
​

✪ Data from CIA Factbooks.

(COMMENT)

Just as the Mahmoud Abbas (President of the Palestinian Authority) is already past 80 years of age.

✦ Hamas leader in Gaza Ismail Haniyeh is over 55 and just assumed the position from Khaled Mashal age 62.
✦ The Palestine Islamic Jihad Leader is Ramadan Shalah; is now age 60.
✦ Ahmad Sa’adat, the General Secretary of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine; and is 65 years old.
✦ Nayef Hawatmeh is the President of the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine; and is 80 years old.​

The leadership positions will soon change. And with that change we do not know yet what changes in Arab Palestinian Policies these new leaders (yet to be determined) will have on the survival of the respective organizations.

Most Respectfully,
R

Abbas is about 85 now. The Palestinians have wanted him to leave for many years. All of his old cronies should leave too. They are all leaders of the past.

I cant think of many people who would be a good president. Here is one I have been looking at:

Mustafa Barghouti (born 1 January 1954) is a Palestinian physician, activist, and politician who serves as General Secretary of the Palestinian National Initiative (PNI), also known as al Mubadara. He has been a member of the Palestinian Legislative Council since 2006 and is also a member of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) Central Council. In 2007, Barghouti was Minister of Information in the Palestinian unity government.

Mustafa Barghouti - Wikipedia

BTW, The Palestinian National Initiative party does not have a military wing and does not have a terrorist designation.

So, basically, Barghouti has been a part of most every phony “Pal’istanian” fraud representing itself as a legislative body.

You want the Islamic terrorist dictatorship to continue.

Super!

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, Sixties Fan, et al,

BLUF: Well before 2030 (about a decade from now), most of the "Old Guard" of Fatah, Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS), Palestine Islamic Jihad (PIJ), Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine – General Command (PFLP-GC), Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP) and other lesser groups, will have dissolved (if not already faded away) and either become only of a historical threat; or evolved into evolved into something altogether different (if not already).

Just How Do You Measure The Level Of Democracy In A Terrorist State? (Daled Amos) ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

The PA is a bantustan government.

(REFERENCE NOTE)

Life expectancy at birth: for the total population in the West Bank is: 74.54 years

✦ Male: 72.54 years
✦ Female: 76.65​

Life expectancy at birth: for the total population in the Gaza Strip is: 74.4 years (2018 est.)

✦ Male: 72.7 years (2018 est.)
✦ Female: 76.2 years (2018 est.)
​

✪ Data from CIA Factbooks.

(COMMENT)

Just as the Mahmoud Abbas (President of the Palestinian Authority) is already past 80 years of age.

✦ Hamas leader in Gaza Ismail Haniyeh is over 55 and just assumed the position from Khaled Mashal age 62.
✦ The Palestine Islamic Jihad Leader is Ramadan Shalah; is now age 60.
✦ Ahmad Sa’adat, the General Secretary of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine; and is 65 years old.
✦ Nayef Hawatmeh is the President of the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine; and is 80 years old.​

The leadership positions will soon change. And with that change we do not know yet what changes in Arab Palestinian Policies these new leaders (yet to be determined) will have on the survival of the respective organizations.

Most Respectfully,
R

Abbas is about 85 now. The Palestinians have wanted him to leave for many years. All of his old cronies should leave too. They are all leaders of the past.

I cant think of many people who would be a good president. Here is one I have been looking at:

Mustafa Barghouti (born 1 January 1954) is a Palestinian physician, activist, and politician who serves as General Secretary of the Palestinian National Initiative (PNI), also known as al Mubadara. He has been a member of the Palestinian Legislative Council since 2006 and is also a member of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) Central Council. In 2007, Barghouti was Minister of Information in the Palestinian unity government.

Mustafa Barghouti - Wikipedia

And how many of those have actual credentials to run a state?
Your link doesn't show Barghouti even ran a hospital...

While he was at Maqased, he and "five or six" medical colleagues founded Medical Relief (MR), a volunteer organization that has developed into "a whole network of primary health-care centres, mobile clinics and outreach programmes." By 1986, "there were MR committees all over the Occupied Territories, including Gaza."[2]

Barghouti is the President of the Union of Palestinian Medical Relief Committees, an NGO that provides health and community services to people in the Occupied Territories. He is also Director of the Health Development Information and Policy Institute, an independent Ramallah-based think-tank that engages in policy research and planning for the Palestinian health-care system in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.[1]

 

[Hollie]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, Sixties Fan, et al,

BLUF: Well before 2030 (about a decade from now), most of the "Old Guard" of Fatah, Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS), Palestine Islamic Jihad (PIJ), Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine – General Command (PFLP-GC), Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP) and other lesser groups, will have dissolved (if not already faded away) and either become only of a historical threat; or evolved into evolved into something altogether different (if not already).

Just How Do You Measure The Level Of Democracy In A Terrorist State? (Daled Amos) ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

The PA is a bantustan government.

(REFERENCE NOTE)

Life expectancy at birth: for the total population in the West Bank is: 74.54 years

✦ Male: 72.54 years
✦ Female: 76.65​

Life expectancy at birth: for the total population in the Gaza Strip is: 74.4 years (2018 est.)

✦ Male: 72.7 years (2018 est.)
✦ Female: 76.2 years (2018 est.)
​

✪ Data from CIA Factbooks.

(COMMENT)

Just as the Mahmoud Abbas (President of the Palestinian Authority) is already past 80 years of age.

✦ Hamas leader in Gaza Ismail Haniyeh is over 55 and just assumed the position from Khaled Mashal age 62.
✦ The Palestine Islamic Jihad Leader is Ramadan Shalah; is now age 60.
✦ Ahmad Sa’adat, the General Secretary of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine; and is 65 years old.
✦ Nayef Hawatmeh is the President of the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine; and is 80 years old.​

The leadership positions will soon change. And with that change we do not know yet what changes in Arab Palestinian Policies these new leaders (yet to be determined) will have on the survival of the respective organizations.

Most Respectfully,
R

Abbas is about 85 now. The Palestinians have wanted him to leave for many years. All of his old cronies should leave too. They are all leaders of the past.

I cant think of many people who would be a good president. Here is one I have been looking at:

Mustafa Barghouti (born 1 January 1954) is a Palestinian physician, activist, and politician who serves as General Secretary of the Palestinian National Initiative (PNI), also known as al Mubadara. He has been a member of the Palestinian Legislative Council since 2006 and is also a member of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) Central Council. In 2007, Barghouti was Minister of Information in the Palestinian unity government.

Mustafa Barghouti - Wikipedia

And how many of those have actual credentials to run a state?
Your link doesn't show Barghouti even ran a hospital...

While he was at Maqased, he and "five or six" medical colleagues founded Medical Relief (MR), a volunteer organization that has developed into "a whole network of primary health-care centres, mobile clinics and outreach programmes." By 1986, "there were MR committees all over the Occupied Territories, including Gaza."[2]

Barghouti is the President of the Union of Palestinian Medical Relief Committees, an NGO that provides health and community services to people in the Occupied Territories. He is also Director of the Health Development Information and Policy Institute, an independent Ramallah-based think-tank that engages in policy research and planning for the Palestinian health-care system in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.[1]

.....not to mention his Jew killing proclivities, but:


'They're Not Terrorists': Palestinian Lawmaker Defends Attacks on Israel

'They're Not Terrorists': Palestinian Lawmaker Defends Attacks on Israel

Palestinian parliament member Mustafa Barghouti staunchly defended Palestinian jihadists who attack Israel.

Leland Vittert asked Barghouti how the Palestinians could be considered an honest partner in the regional peace process when it memorializes terrorists.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, Sixties Fan, et al,

BLUF: Well before 2030 (about a decade from now), most of the "Old Guard" of Fatah, Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS), Palestine Islamic Jihad (PIJ), Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine – General Command (PFLP-GC), Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP) and other lesser groups, will have dissolved (if not already faded away) and either become only of a historical threat; or evolved into evolved into something altogether different (if not already).

The PA is a bantustan government.

(REFERENCE NOTE)

Life expectancy at birth: for the total population in the West Bank is: 74.54 years

✦ Male: 72.54 years
✦ Female: 76.65​

Life expectancy at birth: for the total population in the Gaza Strip is: 74.4 years (2018 est.)

✦ Male: 72.7 years (2018 est.)
✦ Female: 76.2 years (2018 est.)
​

✪ Data from CIA Factbooks.

(COMMENT)

Just as the Mahmoud Abbas (President of the Palestinian Authority) is already past 80 years of age.

✦ Hamas leader in Gaza Ismail Haniyeh is over 55 and just assumed the position from Khaled Mashal age 62.
✦ The Palestine Islamic Jihad Leader is Ramadan Shalah; is now age 60.
✦ Ahmad Sa’adat, the General Secretary of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine; and is 65 years old.
✦ Nayef Hawatmeh is the President of the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine; and is 80 years old.​

The leadership positions will soon change. And with that change we do not know yet what changes in Arab Palestinian Policies these new leaders (yet to be determined) will have on the survival of the respective organizations.

Most Respectfully,
R

Abbas is about 85 now. The Palestinians have wanted him to leave for many years. All of his old cronies should leave too. They are all leaders of the past.

I cant think of many people who would be a good president. Here is one I have been looking at:

Mustafa Barghouti (born 1 January 1954) is a Palestinian physician, activist, and politician who serves as General Secretary of the Palestinian National Initiative (PNI), also known as al Mubadara. He has been a member of the Palestinian Legislative Council since 2006 and is also a member of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) Central Council. In 2007, Barghouti was Minister of Information in the Palestinian unity government.

Mustafa Barghouti - Wikipedia

And how many of those have actual credentials to run a state?
Your link doesn't show Barghouti even ran a hospital...

While he was at Maqased, he and "five or six" medical colleagues founded Medical Relief (MR), a volunteer organization that has developed into "a whole network of primary health-care centres, mobile clinics and outreach programmes." By 1986, "there were MR committees all over the Occupied Territories, including Gaza."[2]

Barghouti is the President of the Union of Palestinian Medical Relief Committees, an NGO that provides health and community services to people in the Occupied Territories. He is also Director of the Health Development Information and Policy Institute, an independent Ramallah-based think-tank that engages in policy research and planning for the Palestinian health-care system in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.[1]

.....not to mention his Jew killing proclivities, but:


'They're Not Terrorists': Palestinian Lawmaker Defends Attacks on Israel

'They're Not Terrorists': Palestinian Lawmaker Defends Attacks on Israel

Palestinian parliament member Mustafa Barghouti staunchly defended Palestinian jihadists who attack Israel.

Leland Vittert asked Barghouti how the Palestinians could be considered an honest partner in the regional peace process when it memorializes terrorists.

It is interesting that all TV hosts are armed with a list of Israeli talking points. Who passes out those lists?

 

[Hollie]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, Sixties Fan, et al,

BLUF: Well before 2030 (about a decade from now), most of the "Old Guard" of Fatah, Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS), Palestine Islamic Jihad (PIJ), Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine – General Command (PFLP-GC), Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP) and other lesser groups, will have dissolved (if not already faded away) and either become only of a historical threat; or evolved into evolved into something altogether different (if not already).

(REFERENCE NOTE)

Life expectancy at birth: for the total population in the West Bank is: 74.54 years

✦ Male: 72.54 years
✦ Female: 76.65​

Life expectancy at birth: for the total population in the Gaza Strip is: 74.4 years (2018 est.)

✦ Male: 72.7 years (2018 est.)
✦ Female: 76.2 years (2018 est.)
​

✪ Data from CIA Factbooks.

(COMMENT)

Just as the Mahmoud Abbas (President of the Palestinian Authority) is already past 80 years of age.

✦ Hamas leader in Gaza Ismail Haniyeh is over 55 and just assumed the position from Khaled Mashal age 62.
✦ The Palestine Islamic Jihad Leader is Ramadan Shalah; is now age 60.
✦ Ahmad Sa’adat, the General Secretary of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine; and is 65 years old.
✦ Nayef Hawatmeh is the President of the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine; and is 80 years old.​

The leadership positions will soon change. And with that change we do not know yet what changes in Arab Palestinian Policies these new leaders (yet to be determined) will have on the survival of the respective organizations.

Most Respectfully,
R

Abbas is about 85 now. The Palestinians have wanted him to leave for many years. All of his old cronies should leave too. They are all leaders of the past.

I cant think of many people who would be a good president. Here is one I have been looking at:

Mustafa Barghouti (born 1 January 1954) is a Palestinian physician, activist, and politician who serves as General Secretary of the Palestinian National Initiative (PNI), also known as al Mubadara. He has been a member of the Palestinian Legislative Council since 2006 and is also a member of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) Central Council. In 2007, Barghouti was Minister of Information in the Palestinian unity government.

Mustafa Barghouti - Wikipedia

And how many of those have actual credentials to run a state?
Your link doesn't show Barghouti even ran a hospital...

While he was at Maqased, he and "five or six" medical colleagues founded Medical Relief (MR), a volunteer organization that has developed into "a whole network of primary health-care centres, mobile clinics and outreach programmes." By 1986, "there were MR committees all over the Occupied Territories, including Gaza."[2]

Barghouti is the President of the Union of Palestinian Medical Relief Committees, an NGO that provides health and community services to people in the Occupied Territories. He is also Director of the Health Development Information and Policy Institute, an independent Ramallah-based think-tank that engages in policy research and planning for the Palestinian health-care system in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.[1]

.....not to mention his Jew killing proclivities, but:


'They're Not Terrorists': Palestinian Lawmaker Defends Attacks on Israel

'They're Not Terrorists': Palestinian Lawmaker Defends Attacks on Israel

Palestinian parliament member Mustafa Barghouti staunchly defended Palestinian jihadists who attack Israel.

Leland Vittert asked Barghouti how the Palestinians could be considered an honest partner in the regional peace process when it memorializes terrorists.

It is interesting that all TV hosts are armed with a list of Israeli talking points. Who passes out those lists?

Indeed, it’s interesting that Barghouti is little more than Sheikh Ahmed Yassin in a suit.

Indeed, from the earlier link:
Barghouti said they are freedom fighters working "peacefully and politically" for the people.

He said that complaining about the Palestinian government's support of the fighters is Israel's way to distract from issues like its alleged "occupation" of their land.


Indeed, all the usual appeals to “peaceful” Islamic savages.

Strange indeed, your hero worship of just another Islamic terrorist.

 

[rylah]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, Sixties Fan, et al,

BLUF: Well before 2030 (about a decade from now), most of the "Old Guard" of Fatah, Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS), Palestine Islamic Jihad (PIJ), Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine – General Command (PFLP-GC), Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP) and other lesser groups, will have dissolved (if not already faded away) and either become only of a historical threat; or evolved into evolved into something altogether different (if not already).

Just How Do You Measure The Level Of Democracy In A Terrorist State? (Daled Amos) ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

The PA is a bantustan government.

(REFERENCE NOTE)

Life expectancy at birth: for the total population in the West Bank is: 74.54 years

✦ Male: 72.54 years
✦ Female: 76.65​

Life expectancy at birth: for the total population in the Gaza Strip is: 74.4 years (2018 est.)

✦ Male: 72.7 years (2018 est.)
✦ Female: 76.2 years (2018 est.)
​

✪ Data from CIA Factbooks.

(COMMENT)

Just as the Mahmoud Abbas (President of the Palestinian Authority) is already past 80 years of age.

✦ Hamas leader in Gaza Ismail Haniyeh is over 55 and just assumed the position from Khaled Mashal age 62.
✦ The Palestine Islamic Jihad Leader is Ramadan Shalah; is now age 60.
✦ Ahmad Sa’adat, the General Secretary of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine; and is 65 years old.
✦ Nayef Hawatmeh is the President of the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine; and is 80 years old.​

The leadership positions will soon change. And with that change we do not know yet what changes in Arab Palestinian Policies these new leaders (yet to be determined) will have on the survival of the respective organizations.

Most Respectfully,
R

Abbas is about 85 now. The Palestinians have wanted him to leave for many years. All of his old cronies should leave too. They are all leaders of the past.

I cant think of many people who would be a good president. Here is one I have been looking at:

Mustafa Barghouti (born 1 January 1954) is a Palestinian physician, activist, and politician who serves as General Secretary of the Palestinian National Initiative (PNI), also known as al Mubadara. He has been a member of the Palestinian Legislative Council since 2006 and is also a member of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) Central Council. In 2007, Barghouti was Minister of Information in the Palestinian unity government.

Mustafa Barghouti - Wikipedia

And how many of those have actual credentials to run a state?
Your link doesn't show Barghouti even ran a hospital...

While he was at Maqased, he and "five or six" medical colleagues founded Medical Relief (MR), a volunteer organization that has developed into "a whole network of primary health-care centres, mobile clinics and outreach programmes." By 1986, "there were MR committees all over the Occupied Territories, including Gaza."[2]

Barghouti is the President of the Union of Palestinian Medical Relief Committees, an NGO that provides health and community services to people in the Occupied Territories. He is also Director of the Health Development Information and Policy Institute, an independent Ramallah-based think-tank that engages in policy research and planning for the Palestinian health-care system in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.[1]

Was this meant to be a joke, I meant a real hospital.
Give me someone who really has the qualifications to run a state, not an anchor for a health TV show.

 

[rylah]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, Sixties Fan, et al,

BLUF: Well before 2030 (about a decade from now), most of the "Old Guard" of Fatah, Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS), Palestine Islamic Jihad (PIJ), Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine – General Command (PFLP-GC), Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP) and other lesser groups, will have dissolved (if not already faded away) and either become only of a historical threat; or evolved into evolved into something altogether different (if not already).

(REFERENCE NOTE)

Life expectancy at birth: for the total population in the West Bank is: 74.54 years

✦ Male: 72.54 years
✦ Female: 76.65​

Life expectancy at birth: for the total population in the Gaza Strip is: 74.4 years (2018 est.)

✦ Male: 72.7 years (2018 est.)
✦ Female: 76.2 years (2018 est.)
​

✪ Data from CIA Factbooks.

(COMMENT)

Just as the Mahmoud Abbas (President of the Palestinian Authority) is already past 80 years of age.

✦ Hamas leader in Gaza Ismail Haniyeh is over 55 and just assumed the position from Khaled Mashal age 62.
✦ The Palestine Islamic Jihad Leader is Ramadan Shalah; is now age 60.
✦ Ahmad Sa’adat, the General Secretary of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine; and is 65 years old.
✦ Nayef Hawatmeh is the President of the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine; and is 80 years old.​

The leadership positions will soon change. And with that change we do not know yet what changes in Arab Palestinian Policies these new leaders (yet to be determined) will have on the survival of the respective organizations.

Most Respectfully,
R

Abbas is about 85 now. The Palestinians have wanted him to leave for many years. All of his old cronies should leave too. They are all leaders of the past.

I cant think of many people who would be a good president. Here is one I have been looking at:

Mustafa Barghouti (born 1 January 1954) is a Palestinian physician, activist, and politician who serves as General Secretary of the Palestinian National Initiative (PNI), also known as al Mubadara. He has been a member of the Palestinian Legislative Council since 2006 and is also a member of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) Central Council. In 2007, Barghouti was Minister of Information in the Palestinian unity government.

Mustafa Barghouti - Wikipedia

And how many of those have actual credentials to run a state?
Your link doesn't show Barghouti even ran a hospital...

While he was at Maqased, he and "five or six" medical colleagues founded Medical Relief (MR), a volunteer organization that has developed into "a whole network of primary health-care centres, mobile clinics and outreach programmes." By 1986, "there were MR committees all over the Occupied Territories, including Gaza."[2]

Barghouti is the President of the Union of Palestinian Medical Relief Committees, an NGO that provides health and community services to people in the Occupied Territories. He is also Director of the Health Development Information and Policy Institute, an independent Ramallah-based think-tank that engages in policy research and planning for the Palestinian health-care system in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.[1]

.....not to mention his Jew killing proclivities, but:


'They're Not Terrorists': Palestinian Lawmaker Defends Attacks on Israel

'They're Not Terrorists': Palestinian Lawmaker Defends Attacks on Israel

Palestinian parliament member Mustafa Barghouti staunchly defended Palestinian jihadists who attack Israel.

Leland Vittert asked Barghouti how the Palestinians could be considered an honest partner in the regional peace process when it memorializes terrorists.

It is interesting that all TV hosts are armed with a list of Israeli talking points. Who passes out those lists?

Probably Your department of foreign affairs.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, rylah, et al,

Our friend "rylah" makes a good point...

And how many of those have actual credentials to run a state?
Your link doesn't show Barghouti even ran a hospital...

(COMMENT)

I suppose that the UN would, if the conditions were set → for the Arab Palestinians to be run through the establishments of self-governing institutions (the Steps Preparatory to Independence).

But I don't think that the Arab Palestinians want to establish any self-governing instiutions. It appears the Arab Palestinians have their eyes set on taking the essential components intact away from the Israelis.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[rylah]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, rylah, et al,

Our friend "rylah" makes a good point...

And how many of those have actual credentials to run a state?
Your link doesn't show Barghouti even ran a hospital...

(COMMENT)

I suppose that the UN would, if the conditions were set → for the Arab Palestinians to be run through the establishments of self-governing institutions (the Steps Preparatory to Independence).

But I don't think that the Arab Palestinians want to establish any self-governing instiutions. It appears the Arab Palestinians have their eyes set on taking the essential components intact away from the Israelis.

Most Respectfully,
R

Even if they copy those components, someone has to actually run the country.
I never get a serious response to this question,at least Arafat had a degree in civil engineering..not that he actually used it, but it's already something.

Seems like Palestinians key politicians are the same bourgeoisie families that used to sell land to Jews and incite their people to kill anyone who does it at the same time. They were never serious about anything but keeping the upper social status that they held under the Ottoman rule.

I think this is one of the main problems among Palestinians - the structure of family rule in politics.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, rylah, et al,

Our friend "rylah" makes a good point...

And how many of those have actual credentials to run a state?
Your link doesn't show Barghouti even ran a hospital...

(COMMENT)

I suppose that the UN would, if the conditions were set → for the Arab Palestinians to be run through the establishments of self-governing institutions (the Steps Preparatory to Independence).

But I don't think that the Arab Palestinians want to establish any self-governing instiutions. It appears the Arab Palestinians have their eyes set on taking the essential components intact away from the Israelis.

Most Respectfully,
R

Even if they copy those components, someone has to actually run the country.
I never get a serious response to this question,at least Arafat had a degree in civil engineering..not that he actually used it, but it's already something.

Seems like Palestinians key politicians are the same bourgeoisie families that used to sell land to Jews and incite their people to kill anyone who does it at the same time. They were never serious about anything but keeping the upper social status that they held under the Ottoman rule.

I think this is one of the main problems among Palestinians - the structure of family rule in politics.

Nice mindless rant. You don't know the structure of the government.

 

[rylah]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, rylah, et al,

Our friend "rylah" makes a good point...

And how many of those have actual credentials to run a state?
Your link doesn't show Barghouti even ran a hospital...

(COMMENT)

I suppose that the UN would, if the conditions were set → for the Arab Palestinians to be run through the establishments of self-governing institutions (the Steps Preparatory to Independence).

But I don't think that the Arab Palestinians want to establish any self-governing instiutions. It appears the Arab Palestinians have their eyes set on taking the essential components intact away from the Israelis.

Most Respectfully,
R

Even if they copy those components, someone has to actually run the country.
I never get a serious response to this question,at least Arafat had a degree in civil engineering..not that he actually used it, but it's already something.

Seems like Palestinians key politicians are the same bourgeoisie families that used to sell land to Jews and incite their people to kill anyone who does it at the same time. They were never serious about anything but keeping the upper social status that they held under the Ottoman rule.

I think this is one of the main problems among Palestinians - the structure of family rule in politics.

Nice mindless rant. You don't know the structure of the government.

They're all the same elitist families that ruled the Arab street 100 years ago, we know about many Barghoutis who still run the show, Tamimis, Husseinis, Ja'abri...all the same families who never left the positions of power given to them by the Ottomans and Brits.

Government structure is meaningless if politics are run by family clans, family politics don't work if one wants democracy. The internal struggle is too engraved to move anything forward. It's Russia in th 90's...took them 10 years to install a capable leader not "from the family", Palestinians probably won't because they don't have the same level of military leadership, a good school of officers to keep as a backup to insane kings.

But Your nativity is cute of course.

 

[Hollie]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, rylah, et al,

Our friend "rylah" makes a good point...

And how many of those have actual credentials to run a state?
Your link doesn't show Barghouti even ran a hospital...

(COMMENT)

I suppose that the UN would, if the conditions were set → for the Arab Palestinians to be run through the establishments of self-governing institutions (the Steps Preparatory to Independence).

But I don't think that the Arab Palestinians want to establish any self-governing instiutions. It appears the Arab Palestinians have their eyes set on taking the essential components intact away from the Israelis.

Most Respectfully,
R

Even if they copy those components, someone has to actually run the country.
I never get a serious response to this question,at least Arafat had a degree in civil engineering..not that he actually used it, but it's already something.

Seems like Palestinians key politicians are the same bourgeoisie families that used to sell land to Jews and incite their people to kill anyone who does it at the same time. They were never serious about anything but keeping the upper social status that they held under the Ottoman rule.

I think this is one of the main problems among Palestinians - the structure of family rule in politics.

Nice mindless rant. You don't know the structure of the government.

There is no reason to believe an Islamic government under Barghouti would be any different than the current dysfunctional dictatorships.

The wiki document you posted identifies Barghouti having a hand in many of the failed and/or directionless “government” entities connected to Arab-Moslem “Pal’istanians”. Barghouti was as ineffective and directionless within those welfare fraud wasting entities as the other welfare fraud recipients.

 

[rylah]

So really whom do Palestinians have for politicians today?

I know of an English literature professor and a doctor who most usually appear for western audiences,
who else, maybe someone professionally fit to run a state we don't know about?

 

[rylah]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, rylah, et al,

Our friend "rylah" makes a good point...

And how many of those have actual credentials to run a state?
Your link doesn't show Barghouti even ran a hospital...

(COMMENT)

I suppose that the UN would, if the conditions were set → for the Arab Palestinians to be run through the establishments of self-governing institutions (the Steps Preparatory to Independence).

But I don't think that the Arab Palestinians want to establish any self-governing instiutions. It appears the Arab Palestinians have their eyes set on taking the essential components intact away from the Israelis.

Most Respectfully,
R

Even if they copy those components, someone has to actually run the country.
I never get a serious response to this question,at least Arafat had a degree in civil engineering..not that he actually used it, but it's already something.

Seems like Palestinians key politicians are the same bourgeoisie families that used to sell land to Jews and incite their people to kill anyone who does it at the same time. They were never serious about anything but keeping the upper social status that they held under the Ottoman rule.

I think this is one of the main problems among Palestinians - the structure of family rule in politics.

Nice mindless rant. You don't know the structure of the government.

There is no reason to believe an Islamic government under Barghouti would be any different than the current dysfunctional dictatorships.

The wiki document you posted identifies Barghouti having a hand in many of the failed and/or directionless “government” entities connected to Arab-Moslem “Pal’istanians”. Barghouti was as ineffective and directionless within those welfare fraud wasting entities as the other welfare fraud recipients.

No but You don't get it,
it won't be an "Islamic state" because communists will run the Sharia courts...

 

[P F Tinmore]

Oh my, so many sour grapes.

 

[rylah]

Where is that list of new candidates?

Palestinian politics is all about elitist families, they're all the same people from the same handful of clans which the Ottomans installed as the local aristocracy.

They have no elections because there's no point once families divided the cake.
It's very similar to a feudal rule, family clans own the cities and each village is divided on these parameters, Abbas is merely a convenient scapegoat for the feudal rulers.

Last time they were allowed elections, it were the family clans that received the majority of votes,
not political parties.

 

[Mindful]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, rylah, et al,

Our friend "rylah" makes a good point...

And how many of those have actual credentials to run a state?
Your link doesn't show Barghouti even ran a hospital...

(COMMENT)

I suppose that the UN would, if the conditions were set → for the Arab Palestinians to be run through the establishments of self-governing institutions (the Steps Preparatory to Independence).

But I don't think that the Arab Palestinians want to establish any self-governing instiutions. It appears the Arab Palestinians have their eyes set on taking the essential components intact away from the Israelis.

Most Respectfully,
R

Even if they copy those components, someone has to actually run the country.
I never get a serious response to this question,at least Arafat had a degree in civil engineering..not that he actually used it, but it's already something.

Seems like Palestinians key politicians are the same bourgeoisie families that used to sell land to Jews and incite their people to kill anyone who does it at the same time. They were never serious about anything but keeping the upper social status that they held under the Ottoman rule.

I think this is one of the main problems among Palestinians - the structure of family rule in politics.

Nice mindless rant. You don't know the structure of the government.

Do you?

Let's hear it.

 

[Mindful]

I'm reminded of the al-Assad family. A clan which became prominent in government affairs, reminiscent of the House of Borgia.

With a Lady Macbeth figure (Bashar's mother) running the show from behind the scenes.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, rylah, et al,

Knowing or not Knowing the framework and structure of government is not the Issue. It is not the issue at all.

Nice mindless rant. You don't know the structure of the government.

(COMMENT)

We, none of use, need to know the structure of Government to be able to view and observe the outcomes and determine whether or not the Government is failing the people.


Most Respectfully,
R