Who is really "living off of the government"

[Aries]

The poor don't vote, especially in red states which have been suppressing the poor vote for years.

Another dragon fart. Lucky us. Go ahead and attempt to back that one up.

I wrote an entire thesis on voter suppression. Don't tempt me.

 

[Iceweasel]

....yawn. This shit again. Dems consider warming a government chair as working. Lots of libs live in "red states". Why are we to assume they are Republicans or the GOP caused it? You are a product of public ed.

Never went to a public school.. keep up the assumptions, tell me when you have something of value.

I just did. You couldn't respond to the points I brought up. Yeah sure, you were private schooled all the way through.

catholic school pre-k - 12 and a liberal arts college. I have seen no such "points." Ill be waiting with bells on.

You can't see what you don't believe in. Like all libs and many religious types.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

wow, you are less bright than I originally thought

your article actually proves my point - 64% of blacks receive some form of government benefits, and a larger percentage of democrats are on the dole - that's according to your article...

furthermore, your article lists Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid. People actually pay into Social Security, so listing that as "being on the government dole" and pushing the elderly into that category is misleading

a better and more accurate chart would show numbers of people that receive those benefits in excess of what they actually paid in

you are going to have to do better that that baw

but you won't be able to...

Black people are at a slightly higher percentage than whites and whites are double that rate ahead of hispanics. My point is that red states and their politicians have had the time and the means to create a state that isn't a welfare queen. They can't. I skipped the SS and medicare/medicaid part as it is not a handout. Yes, the comparisons do show the dollar take on the dollar given- should be on the first link. Red states take out more than they put in, while blue states do the opposite.

What does any of those federal benefits have to do with state governments? You can't explain that, so please stop the lies!

I can explain. Repub leadership creates policies at a state level that create more unemployment, more poverty, and more government dependants than their democratic counterparts.

I'll answer your stupidity with a real world scenario that you can check. My state elected only its second Republican governor since the 1960s and the first Republican controlled Legislature since Reconstruction. Yet, we have had two Republican Senators and a Republican dominated House delegation for many years.

Republicans in Congress are powerless to force Democrats in the states to do anything. Why can't you understand such a simple concept?

So republicans are powerless to enact beneficial change for their constituents? Do you have anything new add other than republicans are worthless?

You got that load of horseshit from what I said? I think you are in serious need of remedial reading or a pysch eval!

Republicans in Congress were stifled by a Democrat in the White House for the past 8 years. Let's talk budgets! How many passed under Obama, even with the Democrats in control? The federal debt grew by how much under Obama? You want more destruction of your premise, or are you going to give up this charade?

 

[Iceweasel]

....yawn. This shit again. Dems consider warming a government chair as working. Lots of libs live in "red states". Why are we to assume they are Republicans or the GOP caused it? You are a product of public ed.

Never went to a public school.. keep up the assumptions, tell me when you have something of value.

I just did. You couldn't respond to the points I brought up. Yeah sure, you were private schooled all the way through.

catholic school pre-k - 12 and a liberal arts college. I have seen no such "points." Ill be waiting with bells on.

Liberal arts, huh? How is that women's studies degree working out for you?

I have a history degree. That's how I know all these big fancy smart liberal things about society, culture, and our past.

You're a brainwashed lemming, nothing more.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I have noticed we have different views. In my opinion you've just had your ass handed to you. You red fed money sucker.

oh I have lost arguments before, but not today

you have demonstrated reading comprehension problems & seem to be unfazed by facts and logic - even to the point of not understanding the information that you provided to back up your claims, information that actually refuted your own point

I came in this thread with the intention of engaging you in a serious conversation, you have demonstrated that you aren't interested

noted for future threads...

your "facts and logic" include: "red states have more black people" and "red states have dems in there too"

really?


.....



really?


next time you have the intention of engaging, don't lol.

So what did he claim that is not 100% rock-solid true?

 

[Iceweasel]

The poor don't vote, especially in red states which have been suppressing the poor vote for years.

Another dragon fart. Lucky us. Go ahead and attempt to back that one up.

I wrote an entire thesis on voter suppression. Don't tempt me.

Oh wow. A victory dance based on an assertion by authority. You aren't too bright. All you know is leftist rhetoric.

 

[Aries]

The poor don't vote, especially in red states which have been suppressing the poor vote for years.

Another dragon fart. Lucky us. Go ahead and attempt to back that one up.

I wrote an entire thesis on voter suppression. Don't tempt me.

Oh wow. A victory dance based on an assertion by authority. You aren't too bright. All you know is leftist rhetoric.

No honey, thats you.

 

[Aries]

I have noticed we have different views. In my opinion you've just had your ass handed to you. You red fed money sucker.

oh I have lost arguments before, but not today

you have demonstrated reading comprehension problems & seem to be unfazed by facts and logic - even to the point of not understanding the information that you provided to back up your claims, information that actually refuted your own point

I came in this thread with the intention of engaging you in a serious conversation, you have demonstrated that you aren't interested

noted for future threads...

your "facts and logic" include: "red states have more black people" and "red states have dems in there too"

really?


.....



really?


next time you have the intention of engaging, don't lol.

So what did he claim that is not 100% rock-solid true?

When you can't defend your own nonsense you find someone else's nonsense? lol cute.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It is a common insult from the right to say that the democrats don't work. Democrats are lazy. Democrats want handouts. Democrats live off the government.

but who is really "living off of the government?"

In analysing what states spend the most federal dollars- it is clear that RED states tend to have higher poverty rates, and they definitely receive more fed money.

"[W]ho really benefits from government spending? If you listen to Rush Limbaugh, you might think it was those blue states, packed with damn hippie socialist liberals, sipping their lattes and providing free abortions for bored, horny teenagers. ...

As it turns out, it is red states that are overwhelmingly the Welfare Queen States. Yes, that's right. Red States—the ones governed by folks who think government is too big and spending needs to be cut—are a net drain on the economy, taking in more federal spending than they pay out in federal taxes. They talk a good game, but stick Blue States with the bill."

Which States Are Givers and Which Are Takers?

Who is more educated?

"Highly educated adults – particularly those who have attended graduate school – are far more likely than those with less education to take predominantly liberal positions across a range of political values."

A Wider Ideological Gap Between More and Less Educated Adults


Who is working harder?

Here are the 12 states with a higher than the national average unemployment rate of 5.0%:

1). West Virginia (D) (6.9%)

2). Alaska (R) (6.4%)

3). Arizona (R) (6.1%)

4). Louisiana (R) (6.2%)

5). Nevada (R) (6.6%)

6). Alabama (R) (5.9%)

7). Georgia (R) (5.7%)

8). New Mexico (R) (6.8%)

9). Mississippi (R) (5.9%)

10). North Carolina (R) (5.7%)

11). Oregon (D) (6.0%)

12). California (D) (5.8%

Proof Of GOP Failure: 9 of 12 States With Highest Unemployment Are Run By Republicans

Oh geez, more of the same from the desperate and confused Liberals.
California - 12% of the nations population, 33% of the nations welfare recipients - FACT
By the way Hawaii and New York are fighting CA for that number one spot....are they blue or red states? hahaha
Here you go:
It Looks Like Red States Take Most in Federal 'Welfare' from this Map. But Looks Can Be Deceiving.
California’s Welfare Benefits: Boom or Bust?
"There has been much discussion about immigrants in the United States from everywhere around the world. Yet, why is it that California seems to attract the most immigrants of any state? Indeed, while the state is only 12% of the nation’s population, it is home to 33% of welfare residents. According to a report published by the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER) on January 26, 2015, there is a correlation between generous welfare benefits and an increase in immigration.

In total, California outspends every other state in public welfare spending – in 2014, it spent $22.4 billion. In contrast, the next closest state, New York, spent $11.9 billion. That being said, does this make California a magnet for immigrants? Not necessarily. It is more of an anchor – a reason why residents stay for long periods of time in the state. However, to deny that there is no magnet would be incorrect. According to George J. Borjas, the Robert W. Scrivner Professor of Economics and Social Policy at the Harvard Kennedy School and the author of the aforementioned report, the reason as to why people decide to relocate is due to “income-maximizing behavior.” Immigrants have already accepted that there are certain fixed costs that are inevitable because of migration, so it is natural that they will flock towards the places with the highest benefits. Empirical evidence suggests that it is because of these differences that there are an increasingly disproportionate number of immigrants among states. While there is the possibility of alternative explanations for this phenomenon, the conclusion that Borjas draws using the wealth-maximization hypothesis is one such testable method.

However, upon closer examination, on a per-capita basis, California’s seemingly generous benefits pale in data comparison to other states. For example, it spends approximately $179 for every resident, behind $233 in Hawaii and $256 in New York. Furthermore, approximately 8.9% of California residents live in poverty, the highest of any state. Despite this, the number of people immigrating to California increases exponentially each year.

You're quoting some student's thesis as a source? What a bullshit piece of crap?

Haha...I love it...I feel so smart when you expose me to how your minds work. Thank you for that.
The US Census Bureau shows that more than 40% of blacks suck the tit while 36% of Hispanics steal from taxpayers. Are Blacks and Hispanics typically Republicans?

Well... they are typically oppressed by Republicans. This thread is aimed at the politicians not our citizens. Why do republican policies create poverty and a higher need for dependency?

If you are so smart, why do you consistently spell "Democrats" wrong?

 

[Aries]

It is a common insult from the right to say that the democrats don't work. Democrats are lazy. Democrats want handouts. Democrats live off the government.

but who is really "living off of the government?"

In analysing what states spend the most federal dollars- it is clear that RED states tend to have higher poverty rates, and they definitely receive more fed money.

"[W]ho really benefits from government spending? If you listen to Rush Limbaugh, you might think it was those blue states, packed with damn hippie socialist liberals, sipping their lattes and providing free abortions for bored, horny teenagers. ...

As it turns out, it is red states that are overwhelmingly the Welfare Queen States. Yes, that's right. Red States—the ones governed by folks who think government is too big and spending needs to be cut—are a net drain on the economy, taking in more federal spending than they pay out in federal taxes. They talk a good game, but stick Blue States with the bill."

Which States Are Givers and Which Are Takers?

Who is more educated?

"Highly educated adults – particularly those who have attended graduate school – are far more likely than those with less education to take predominantly liberal positions across a range of political values."

A Wider Ideological Gap Between More and Less Educated Adults


Who is working harder?

Here are the 12 states with a higher than the national average unemployment rate of 5.0%:

1). West Virginia (D) (6.9%)

2). Alaska (R) (6.4%)

3). Arizona (R) (6.1%)

4). Louisiana (R) (6.2%)

5). Nevada (R) (6.6%)

6). Alabama (R) (5.9%)

7). Georgia (R) (5.7%)

8). New Mexico (R) (6.8%)

9). Mississippi (R) (5.9%)

10). North Carolina (R) (5.7%)

11). Oregon (D) (6.0%)

12). California (D) (5.8%

Proof Of GOP Failure: 9 of 12 States With Highest Unemployment Are Run By Republicans

Oh geez, more of the same from the desperate and confused Liberals.
California - 12% of the nations population, 33% of the nations welfare recipients - FACT
By the way Hawaii and New York are fighting CA for that number one spot....are they blue or red states? hahaha
Here you go:
It Looks Like Red States Take Most in Federal 'Welfare' from this Map. But Looks Can Be Deceiving.
California’s Welfare Benefits: Boom or Bust?
"There has been much discussion about immigrants in the United States from everywhere around the world. Yet, why is it that California seems to attract the most immigrants of any state? Indeed, while the state is only 12% of the nation’s population, it is home to 33% of welfare residents. According to a report published by the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER) on January 26, 2015, there is a correlation between generous welfare benefits and an increase in immigration.

In total, California outspends every other state in public welfare spending – in 2014, it spent $22.4 billion. In contrast, the next closest state, New York, spent $11.9 billion. That being said, does this make California a magnet for immigrants? Not necessarily. It is more of an anchor – a reason why residents stay for long periods of time in the state. However, to deny that there is no magnet would be incorrect. According to George J. Borjas, the Robert W. Scrivner Professor of Economics and Social Policy at the Harvard Kennedy School and the author of the aforementioned report, the reason as to why people decide to relocate is due to “income-maximizing behavior.” Immigrants have already accepted that there are certain fixed costs that are inevitable because of migration, so it is natural that they will flock towards the places with the highest benefits. Empirical evidence suggests that it is because of these differences that there are an increasingly disproportionate number of immigrants among states. While there is the possibility of alternative explanations for this phenomenon, the conclusion that Borjas draws using the wealth-maximization hypothesis is one such testable method.

However, upon closer examination, on a per-capita basis, California’s seemingly generous benefits pale in data comparison to other states. For example, it spends approximately $179 for every resident, behind $233 in Hawaii and $256 in New York. Furthermore, approximately 8.9% of California residents live in poverty, the highest of any state. Despite this, the number of people immigrating to California increases exponentially each year.

You're quoting some student's thesis as a source? What a bullshit piece of crap?

Haha...I love it...I feel so smart when you expose me to how your minds work. Thank you for that.
The US Census Bureau shows that more than 40% of blacks suck the tit while 36% of Hispanics steal from taxpayers. Are Blacks and Hispanics typically Republicans?

Well... they are typically oppressed by Republicans. This thread is aimed at the politicians not our citizens. Why do republican policies create poverty and a higher need for dependency?

If you are so smart, why do you consistently spell "Democrats" wrong?

I am of average intelligence, was just lucky enough to be rich in education. I make spelling errors too. lol

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I have noticed we have different views. In my opinion you've just had your ass handed to you. You red fed money sucker.

oh I have lost arguments before, but not today

you have demonstrated reading comprehension problems & seem to be unfazed by facts and logic - even to the point of not understanding the information that you provided to back up your claims, information that actually refuted your own point

I came in this thread with the intention of engaging you in a serious conversation, you have demonstrated that you aren't interested

noted for future threads...

your "facts and logic" include: "red states have more black people" and "red states have dems in there too"

really?


.....



really?


next time you have the intention of engaging, don't lol.

So what did he claim that is not 100% rock-solid true?

When you can't defend your own nonsense you find someone else's nonsense? lol cute.

You are a complete fraud. When confronted with facts, you scream "LA-LA-LA-LA" and cover your ears!

 

[Aries]

I have noticed we have different views. In my opinion you've just had your ass handed to you. You red fed money sucker.

oh I have lost arguments before, but not today

you have demonstrated reading comprehension problems & seem to be unfazed by facts and logic - even to the point of not understanding the information that you provided to back up your claims, information that actually refuted your own point

I came in this thread with the intention of engaging you in a serious conversation, you have demonstrated that you aren't interested

noted for future threads...

your "facts and logic" include: "red states have more black people" and "red states have dems in there too"

really?


.....



really?


next time you have the intention of engaging, don't lol.

So what did he claim that is not 100% rock-solid true?

When you can't defend your own nonsense you find someone else's nonsense? lol cute.

You are a complete fraud. When confronted with facts, you scream "LA-LA-LA-LA" and cover your ears!

what facts have I "la la la"ed ?

 

[dcbl]

How many poor people belong to either party? The poor don't vote, especially in red states which have been suppressing the poor vote for years. To claim that all poor people are Democrats is ridiculous.

I never made such a claim about poor people all being democrat

and repubs don't suppress the vote

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

This has been dispelled countless times. The red state spending occurs predominately in red state big cities which are...blue cities. Enjoy your fail.

I bet thats exactly why you didnt bother proving it huh ... too easy.

The moron OP tries to equate unemployment with total federal tax dollars spent. Maybe you should start there.

the higher the unemployment rate the higher the fed $ sent... simple correlation.

The feds do not control unemployment benefits. That is a state function. You are wrong yet again!

Go ahead. Say something else stupid. We need the laughs!

this is not about unemployment benefits, this is about overall government programs.


So you haven't quite got it, yet again.

OK, shit for brains!

You were the one who established the correlation between unemployment and federal benefits, and I proved they are not even remotely related. I guess you just are honestly that stupid!

 

[Aries]

How many poor people belong to either party? The poor don't vote, especially in red states which have been suppressing the poor vote for years. To claim that all poor people are Democrats is ridiculous.

I never made such a claim about poor people all being democrat

and repubs don't suppress the vote

Yes they do, big time. They've been doing it for over a century. Where have you been?

 

[Iceweasel]

The poor don't vote, especially in red states which have been suppressing the poor vote for years.

Another dragon fart. Lucky us. Go ahead and attempt to back that one up.

I wrote an entire thesis on voter suppression. Don't tempt me.

Oh wow. A victory dance based on an assertion by authority. You aren't too bright. All you know is leftist rhetoric.

No honey, thats you.

Are you stoned?

 

[Aries]

I bet thats exactly why you didnt bother proving it huh ... too easy.

The moron OP tries to equate unemployment with total federal tax dollars spent. Maybe you should start there.

the higher the unemployment rate the higher the fed $ sent... simple correlation.

The feds do not control unemployment benefits. That is a state function. You are wrong yet again!

Go ahead. Say something else stupid. We need the laughs!

this is not about unemployment benefits, this is about overall government programs.


So you haven't quite got it, yet again.

OK, shit for brains!

You were the one who established the correlation between unemployment and federal benefits, and I proved they are not even remotely related. I guess you just are honestly that stupid!

Higher unemployment has a direct correlation with higher fed dependence, as shown by the data.
I simply shot down your statement that "the feds do not control unemployment benefits" because it is off topic.
I am going to try and be nicer to you as I see you are struggling.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

....yawn. This shit again. Dems consider warming a government chair as working. Lots of libs live in "red states". Why are we to assume they are Republicans or the GOP caused it? You are a product of public ed.

Never went to a public school.. keep up the assumptions, tell me when you have something of value.

I just did. You couldn't respond to the points I brought up. Yeah sure, you were private schooled all the way through.

catholic school pre-k - 12 and a liberal arts college. I have seen no such "points." Ill be waiting with bells on.

Liberal arts, huh? How is that women's studies degree working out for you?

I have a history degree. That's how I know all these big fancy smart liberal things about society, culture, and our past.

That's funny! I have a history degree also, but in my university we actually read something more than comic books, The Communist Manifesto, and Mao's Little Red Book.

I also have a Master's degree in Education, I guess you are a prime example that some people simply cannot learn.

 

[bripat9643]

It is a common insult from the right to say that the democrats don't work. Democrats are lazy. Democrats want handouts. Democrats live off the government.

but who is really "living off of the government?"

In analysing what states spend the most federal dollars- it is clear that RED states tend to have higher poverty rates, and they definitely receive more fed money.

"[W]ho really benefits from government spending? If you listen to Rush Limbaugh, you might think it was those blue states, packed with damn hippie socialist liberals, sipping their lattes and providing free abortions for bored, horny teenagers. ...

As it turns out, it is red states that are overwhelmingly the Welfare Queen States. Yes, that's right. Red States—the ones governed by folks who think government is too big and spending needs to be cut—are a net drain on the economy, taking in more federal spending than they pay out in federal taxes. They talk a good game, but stick Blue States with the bill."

Which States Are Givers and Which Are Takers?

Who is more educated?

"Highly educated adults – particularly those who have attended graduate school – are far more likely than those with less education to take predominantly liberal positions across a range of political values."

A Wider Ideological Gap Between More and Less Educated Adults


Who is working harder?

Here are the 12 states with a higher than the national average unemployment rate of 5.0%:

1). West Virginia (D) (6.9%)

2). Alaska (R) (6.4%)

3). Arizona (R) (6.1%)

4). Louisiana (R) (6.2%)

5). Nevada (R) (6.6%)

6). Alabama (R) (5.9%)

7). Georgia (R) (5.7%)

8). New Mexico (R) (6.8%)

9). Mississippi (R) (5.9%)

10). North Carolina (R) (5.7%)

11). Oregon (D) (6.0%)

12). California (D) (5.8%

Proof Of GOP Failure: 9 of 12 States With Highest Unemployment Are Run By Republicans

When are you snowflake douche bags going to come up with some new talking points?

 

[bripat9643]

....yawn. This shit again. Dems consider warming a government chair as working. Lots of libs live in "red states". Why are we to assume they are Republicans or the GOP caused it? You are a product of public ed.

Never went to a public school.. keep up the assumptions, tell me when you have something of value.

That explains your profound idiocy.