Who will be better at getting America out of debt, Trump or Hillary?

[OnePercenter]

I've had this very discussion so many times with people on the left that it's mind numbing. I believe it all comes down to the idea that people on the left see all business people as evil and it makes them feel good to stick it to evil people. Of course they don't realize that the vast majority of business people are middle class and anything that hurts us hurts our employees, the very people they think they're helping. Unfortunately they will never understand this, it doesn't make them feel good.

The left only wants--they don't ask where it's going to come from. Just make it appear.

They also think that just because somebody has a business, they are loaded with money--money they actually don't need by liberal standards.

In my suburb, they had the same philosophy with us landlords. My Councilman at the time told me the Mayor thought we had too much money. So they instituted apartment inspections and fees to go along with them.

It costs us thousands because you now have to wait for an inspection, and of course, they always find something wrong no matter how many times they've inspected the apartment before. Then you have to hire somebody to do the work which could take weeks. Then you have to have the apartment reinspected. Then you can finally look for a tenant.

I explained to my Councilman that these idiotic money grab tactics only lower our property value because anybody that thinks of getting into the rental business will look to invest anywhere outside of our city. Sure enough, that's what happened, and the money they steal from us is offset by lower taxes they get from the rental properties.

The problem is liberals simply don't think.

Were you bad and got on a slumlord list? When do you get house arrest and an ankle bracelet?

 

[LogikAndReazon]

Civil servants know whats best for business, and growth !!! Yes sir........ lol

 

[nicoleivy5]

Overseas. Ask Drumpf. He sent his industry overseas.

And during the debates, he explained exactly why. If you didn't listen to him, that's why you don't understand.

More profit.

yeah way more $$$ in profit

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Were you bad and got on a slumlord list? When do you get house arrest and an ankle bracelet?

WTF are you even talking about fake one-percenter? Learn how to read so you can reply properly and follow a subject.

 

[Brain357]

Trump is the better candidate, at least he understands the issue... that being said neither of them will balance the budget. We are looking at an economic catastrophe on the horizons.

Bill was only president to balance the budget. Clearly Hillary understands the issue.

If they were so fiscally astute, why were they "dead broke" when they left office? For 8 years they virtually had no expenses while drawing millions in salary.

You people crack me up.

Again Clinton balanced the budget. To claim Hillary doesn't understand the issue is just moronic. How many times trump go bankrupt?

 

[Norman]

Trump is the better candidate, at least he understands the issue... that being said neither of them will balance the budget. We are looking at an economic catastrophe on the horizons.

Bill was only president to balance the budget. Clearly Hillary understands the issue.

If they were so fiscally astute, why were they "dead broke" when they left office? For 8 years they virtually had no expenses while drawing millions in salary.

You people crack me up.

Again Clinton balanced the budget. To claim Hillary doesn't understand the issue is just moronic. How many times trump go bankrupt?

Trump has gone bankrupt:
0 times.

Next?

Indeed Hillary doesn't understand, nor care about the issue.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Again Clinton balanced the budget. To claim Hillary doesn't understand the issue is just moronic. How many times trump go bankrupt?

Clinton didn't balance anything. What Clinton did was "sign" a balanced budget. Big difference.

 

[nicoleivy5]

Again Clinton balanced the budget. To claim Hillary doesn't understand the issue is just moronic. How many times trump go bankrupt?

Clinton didn't balance anything. What Clinton did was "sign" a balanced budget. Big difference.

true

 

[OnePercenter]

I've had this very discussion so many times with people on the left that it's mind numbing. I believe it all comes down to the idea that people on the left see all business people as evil and it makes them feel good to stick it to evil people. Of course they don't realize that the vast majority of business people are middle class and anything that hurts us hurts our employees, the very people they think they're helping. Unfortunately they will never understand this, it doesn't make them feel good.

The left only wants--they don't ask where it's going to come from. Just make it appear.

They also think that just because somebody has a business, they are loaded with money--money they actually don't need by liberal standards.

In my suburb, they had the same philosophy with us landlords. My Councilman at the time told me the Mayor thought we had too much money. So they instituted apartment inspections and fees to go along with them.

It costs us thousands because you now have to wait for an inspection, and of course, they always find something wrong no matter how many times they've inspected the apartment before. Then you have to hire somebody to do the work which could take weeks. Then you have to have the apartment reinspected. Then you can finally look for a tenant.

I explained to my Councilman that these idiotic money grab tactics only lower our property value because anybody that thinks of getting into the rental business will look to invest anywhere outside of our city. Sure enough, that's what happened, and the money they steal from us is offset by lower taxes they get from the rental properties.

The problem is liberals simply don't think.

I've had this very discussion so many times with people on the left that it's mind numbing. I believe it all comes down to the idea that people on the left see all business people as evil and it makes them feel good to stick it to evil people. Of course they don't realize that the vast majority of business people are middle class and anything that hurts us hurts our employees, the very people they think they're helping. Unfortunately they will never understand this, it doesn't make them feel good.

The left only wants--they don't ask where it's going to come from. Just make it appear.

They also think that just because somebody has a business, they are loaded with money--money they actually don't need by liberal standards.

In my suburb, they had the same philosophy with us landlords. My Councilman at the time told me the Mayor thought we had too much money. So they instituted apartment inspections and fees to go along with them.

It costs us thousands because you now have to wait for an inspection, and of course, they always find something wrong no matter how many times they've inspected the apartment before. Then you have to hire somebody to do the work which could take weeks. Then you have to have the apartment reinspected. Then you can finally look for a tenant.

I explained to my Councilman that these idiotic money grab tactics only lower our property value because anybody that thinks of getting into the rental business will look to invest anywhere outside of our city. Sure enough, that's what happened, and the money they steal from us is offset by lower taxes they get from the rental properties.

The problem is liberals simply don't think.

Sounds familiar. I just listened to a friend complaining about "inspections". He was building a home addition, took him 7 months to get approval to begin and that's with professional engineering and architectural drawings.

What really set him off was that while in the city office waiting for paperwork (for 4 hours) he got a glimpse of their schedule posted on a wall. They had 7 inspectors listed, 6 had 1 inspection scheduled for the day, one had nothing. He laughed and said his inspection which was on the schedule involved a guy walking up to a ditch, watching my buddy stick a tape measure in the ditch and saying "OK looks good". Another tough day of work completed. The scary part is I know that these folks start at 70K a year. Add in bennies and they're costing us 100K to sit around with their thumbs up their ass.

How do you know that the inspectors that had one inspection listed weren't inspecting sub divisions? Or commercial buildings?

 

[OnePercenter]

Trump is the better candidate, at least he understands the issue... that being said neither of them will balance the budget. We are looking at an economic catastrophe on the horizons.

Bill was only president to balance the budget. Clearly Hillary understands the issue.

If they were so fiscally astute, why were they "dead broke" when they left office? For 8 years they virtually had no expenses while drawing millions in salary.

You people crack me up.

Again Clinton balanced the budget. To claim Hillary doesn't understand the issue is just moronic. How many times trump go bankrupt?

Trump has gone bankrupt:
0 times.

Next?

Indeed Hillary doesn't understand, nor care about the issue.

Bankruptcy No. 1: The Trump Taj Mahal, 1991

Bankruptcy No. 2: Trump Castle, 1992

Bankruptcy No. 3: Trump Plaza and Casino, 1992

Bankruptcy No. 4: Plaza Hotel, 1992

Bankruptcy No. 5: Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts, 2004

Bankruptcy No. 6: Trump Entertainment Resorts, 2009

You want this guy running this country? I don't.

I'm an investor. I've NEVER filed bankruptcy. Unlike Trump, I know what I'm doing.

 

[Brain357]

Again Clinton balanced the budget. To claim Hillary doesn't understand the issue is just moronic. How many times trump go bankrupt?

Clinton didn't balance anything. What Clinton did was "sign" a balanced budget. Big difference.

Yes he did. Who has gotten closer? Had Bush not given it away with tax breaks we wouldn't have the debt problem now. Trump is also talking tax cuts. Only gonna make the problem worse.

 

[Norman]

Trump is the better candidate, at least he understands the issue... that being said neither of them will balance the budget. We are looking at an economic catastrophe on the horizons.

Bill was only president to balance the budget. Clearly Hillary understands the issue.

If they were so fiscally astute, why were they "dead broke" when they left office? For 8 years they virtually had no expenses while drawing millions in salary.

You people crack me up.

Again Clinton balanced the budget. To claim Hillary doesn't understand the issue is just moronic. How many times trump go bankrupt?

Trump has gone bankrupt:
0 times.

Next?

Indeed Hillary doesn't understand, nor care about the issue.

Bankruptcy No. 1: The Trump Taj Mahal, 1991

Bankruptcy No. 2: Trump Castle, 1992

Bankruptcy No. 3: Trump Plaza and Casino, 1992

Bankruptcy No. 4: Plaza Hotel, 1992

Bankruptcy No. 5: Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts, 2004

Bankruptcy No. 6: Trump Entertainment Resorts, 2009

You want this guy running this country? I don't.

I'm an investor. I've NEVER filed bankruptcy. Unlike Trump, I know what I'm doing.

And bankruptcy that WAS NOT in the list:

Bankruptcy of Donald Trump.

Idiot. It's amusing to watch as these the Anti-Trumpets repeatedly demonstrate they have no clue what they are talking about.

 

[OnePercenter]

Sounds familiar. I just listened to a friend complaining about "inspections". He was building a home addition, took him 7 months to get approval to begin and that's with professional engineering and architectural drawings.

What really set him off was that while in the city office waiting for paperwork (for 4 hours) he got a glimpse of their schedule posted on a wall. They had 7 inspectors listed, 6 had 1 inspection scheduled for the day, one had nothing. He laughed and said his inspection which was on the schedule involved a guy walking up to a ditch, watching my buddy stick a tape measure in the ditch and saying "OK looks good". Another tough day of work completed. The scary part is I know that these folks start at 70K a year. Add in bennies and they're costing us 100K to sit around with their thumbs up their ass.

There is just too much government on every level, and we only have the voters to blame for it.

My father spent his life in construction mostly as a bricklayer. He used to get a permit to build a house or a project with a simple walk through city hall door. According to him, that can't be done today.

Today building is all done with lawyers and red tape. Like your friend, it takes forever to start and finish a project because of too much government. My father believes it's done purposely to push out the little guy. The little guy can't take that kind of loss or pay lawyers to speed things up.

Wasn't that because there were too many people screwing the system and building sub standard?

 

[nicoleivy5]

I've had this very discussion so many times with people on the left that it's mind numbing. I believe it all comes down to the idea that people on the left see all business people as evil and it makes them feel good to stick it to evil people. Of course they don't realize that the vast majority of business people are middle class and anything that hurts us hurts our employees, the very people they think they're helping. Unfortunately they will never understand this, it doesn't make them feel good.

The left only wants--they don't ask where it's going to come from. Just make it appear.

They also think that just because somebody has a business, they are loaded with money--money they actually don't need by liberal standards.

In my suburb, they had the same philosophy with us landlords. My Councilman at the time told me the Mayor thought we had too much money. So they instituted apartment inspections and fees to go along with them.

It costs us thousands because you now have to wait for an inspection, and of course, they always find something wrong no matter how many times they've inspected the apartment before. Then you have to hire somebody to do the work which could take weeks. Then you have to have the apartment reinspected. Then you can finally look for a tenant.

I explained to my Councilman that these idiotic money grab tactics only lower our property value because anybody that thinks of getting into the rental business will look to invest anywhere outside of our city. Sure enough, that's what happened, and the money they steal from us is offset by lower taxes they get from the rental properties.

The problem is liberals simply don't think.

I've had this very discussion so many times with people on the left that it's mind numbing. I believe it all comes down to the idea that people on the left see all business people as evil and it makes them feel good to stick it to evil people. Of course they don't realize that the vast majority of business people are middle class and anything that hurts us hurts our employees, the very people they think they're helping. Unfortunately they will never understand this, it doesn't make them feel good.

The left only wants--they don't ask where it's going to come from. Just make it appear.

They also think that just because somebody has a business, they are loaded with money--money they actually don't need by liberal standards.

In my suburb, they had the same philosophy with us landlords. My Councilman at the time told me the Mayor thought we had too much money. So they instituted apartment inspections and fees to go along with them.

It costs us thousands because you now have to wait for an inspection, and of course, they always find something wrong no matter how many times they've inspected the apartment before. Then you have to hire somebody to do the work which could take weeks. Then you have to have the apartment reinspected. Then you can finally look for a tenant.

I explained to my Councilman that these idiotic money grab tactics only lower our property value because anybody that thinks of getting into the rental business will look to invest anywhere outside of our city. Sure enough, that's what happened, and the money they steal from us is offset by lower taxes they get from the rental properties.

The problem is liberals simply don't think.

Sounds familiar. I just listened to a friend complaining about "inspections". He was building a home addition, took him 7 months to get approval to begin and that's with professional engineering and architectural drawings.

What really set him off was that while in the city office waiting for paperwork (for 4 hours) he got a glimpse of their schedule posted on a wall. They had 7 inspectors listed, 6 had 1 inspection scheduled for the day, one had nothing. He laughed and said his inspection which was on the schedule involved a guy walking up to a ditch, watching my buddy stick a tape measure in the ditch and saying "OK looks good". Another tough day of work completed. The scary part is I know that these folks start at 70K a year. Add in bennies and they're costing us 100K to sit around with their thumbs up their ass.

How do you know that the inspectors that had one inspection listed weren't inspecting sub divisions? Or commercial buildings?

yeah thats a possibility

 

[OnePercenter]

Trump is the better candidate, at least he understands the issue... that being said neither of them will balance the budget. We are looking at an economic catastrophe on the horizons.

Trump balances his budget by filing bankruptcy.

 

[OnePercenter]

Nobody will until the American people as a whole get real and understand that there is no endless supply of free shit. It will take a major crash, which BTW, is coming.. sooner rather than later.

It already happened.

 

[baileyn45]

Trump is the better candidate, at least he understands the issue... that being said neither of them will balance the budget. We are looking at an economic catastrophe on the horizons.

Bill was only president to balance the budget. Clearly Hillary understands the issue.

If they were so fiscally astute, why were they "dead broke" when they left office? For 8 years they virtually had no expenses while drawing millions in salary.

You people crack me up.

Again Clinton balanced the budget. To claim Hillary doesn't understand the issue is just moronic. How many times trump go bankrupt?

Clinton didn't balance squat. He was the beneficiary of the dot com bubble which blew up as he was leaving office..

 

[jillian]

US debt is $19 trillion, the largest in the world for a single country - we owe a ton of money to other nations

Who is better suited to getting our nation out of debt, or at least lower the amount substantially?

None of the above. There is no way the US will be out of debt ever again. They make too much money off the debt and its a partisian issue the idiots can argue over. You can bet Drumpf would increase the debt.

the US was not DESIGNED to be out of debt. debt was specifically designed into the system by the founders.

our interest rates are low, the economy growing. debt isn't the issue that confronts us right now. but....

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/12/us/politics/donald-trump-taxes-hillary-clinton.html

 

[Norman]

Trump is the better candidate, at least he understands the issue... that being said neither of them will balance the budget. We are looking at an economic catastrophe on the horizons.

Trump balances his budget by filing bankruptcy.

Nope... Try again...

You couldn't run a lemonade stand anyway so get out of here. You are talking about things way out of your depth.

 

[Brain357]

Trump is the better candidate, at least he understands the issue... that being said neither of them will balance the budget. We are looking at an economic catastrophe on the horizons.

Trump balances his budget by filing bankruptcy.

And that wouldn't work for a country.