Who's illegitimate now Mr Birtherism?

[Syriusly]

It's not Trump, the Constitution mandates that the president be born in the USA and aside from some idiot waving a copy of his birth certificate Barry Hussein has never proved that he was born In Hawaii. As a matter of fact Hussein never addressed allegations that he claimed to be an alien while attending Harvard to get a better break on tuition. There is no Constitutional issue with Trump's presidency. Do lefties understand the difference?

There is no 'constitutional issue' over either President Obama's eligiblity or Donald Trump's.

President Obama has gone far, far beyond Donald Trump in establishing his place of birth as the United States- but your idiotic Birthers just assume anyone other than Barack Obama was born in the United States.

Regarding the stupid Birther innuendo's about President Obama's college records- they- and Trump's tax records- are not part of the Constitution. Neither has any obligation to satisfy your curiosity,

 

[Syriusly]

Who’s the Illegitimate President Now, Mr. Birtherism?
Trump spent five years trying to delegitimize Obama. Now he's taking office under a cloud of suspicion, and only has himself to blame.
BY BRIAN BEUTLER
January 13, 2017


It is ironic that Donald Trump owes his success in Republican politics, and thus ultimately his presidency, to birtherism given the extent to which he failed to bring birtherism mainstream.

Don’t Watch Donald Trump’s Inauguration

• Trump Is Exactly the Monster We Feared, and Republicans Are Enabling Him

He assumed leadership of the birther movement in March 2011 when he first expressed public doubts about whether President Barack Obama was born in the U.S. The next month, Obama put an end to the farce by producing his Hawaiian birth certificate at a White House press conference, and days later humiliated Trump during the White House Correspondents Dinner. But Trump kept expressing doubts about Obama’s country of origin until late in the 2016 presidential campaign, when he shamelessly attempted to blame the entire crusade on Hillary Clinton. Eventually he had the last laugh.

Birtherism was a huge plot line of his presidency, one generally pushed by elements of the conservative fringe. Though these conspiracy theorists were egged on by Republicans, birtherism never became a mainstream Republican rallying cry because it is racist and fabricated. But the propulsive force behind birtherism, if not the theory itself, was a widely shared right-wing desire to void Obama’s presidency. Racism led elements of the far right to adopt birtherism specifically, but their quest was for any revelation that could prevent Obama from running the country. Only a few criteria govern who can become president; one of them is that the president must be a natural-born citizen; birtherism thus emerges from circular reasoning and wishful thinking. It is a tool that allows political nemeses to trump all politics, which is why white candidates likeJohn McCain and Ted Cruz have also found themselves at the center of less obviously racist birther inquests.

But if it’s ironic that Trump rose to the pinnacle of global power on the strength of a failed campaign to delegitimize Obama, it’s also fitting that his own presidency will begin under a mix of suspicions and legitimacy questions that are very real and that Trump brought upon himself.

You do know it was sheriff Joe of Arizona who put this in the news not Trump he just ran with it.


.

No- Donald Trump made it the news in 2011- and used it to appeal to Birthers until Trump won the primaries- and then he dumped Birthers

Birthers are idiots. We have elected a recently 'reformed' Birther.

But despite Trump spending 5 years trying to undermine the legitimacy of our legally elected President, when Trump is sworn in, he will be legitimate.

 

[washamericom]

always glad to see birther threads on the big board, drives the obot crazy. do you know who the source was ?

 

[Syriusly]

Trump is president. obama is still a black Kenyan from the Luo tribe.

It all works out.

Contards are still so stupid.

Donald Trump is not president- he is an orange German from the Drumpf tribe- and President elect.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Who’s the Illegitimate President Now, Mr. Birtherism?
Trump spent five years trying to delegitimize Obama. Now he's taking office under a cloud of suspicion, and only has himself to blame.
BY BRIAN BEUTLER
January 13, 2017


It is ironic that Donald Trump owes his success in Republican politics, and thus ultimately his presidency, to birtherism given the extent to which he failed to bring birtherism mainstream.

Don’t Watch Donald Trump’s Inauguration

• Trump Is Exactly the Monster We Feared, and Republicans Are Enabling Him

He assumed leadership of the birther movement in March 2011 when he first expressed public doubts about whether President Barack Obama was born in the U.S. The next month, Obama put an end to the farce by producing his Hawaiian birth certificate at a White House press conference, and days later humiliated Trump during the White House Correspondents Dinner. But Trump kept expressing doubts about Obama’s country of origin until late in the 2016 presidential campaign, when he shamelessly attempted to blame the entire crusade on Hillary Clinton. Eventually he had the last laugh.

Birtherism was a huge plot line of his presidency, one generally pushed by elements of the conservative fringe. Though these conspiracy theorists were egged on by Republicans, birtherism never became a mainstream Republican rallying cry because it is racist and fabricated. But the propulsive force behind birtherism, if not the theory itself, was a widely shared right-wing desire to void Obama’s presidency. Racism led elements of the far right to adopt birtherism specifically, but their quest was for any revelation that could prevent Obama from running the country. Only a few criteria govern who can become president; one of them is that the president must be a natural-born citizen; birtherism thus emerges from circular reasoning and wishful thinking. It is a tool that allows political nemeses to trump all politics, which is why white candidates likeJohn McCain and Ted Cruz have also found themselves at the center of less obviously racist birther inquests.

But if it’s ironic that Trump rose to the pinnacle of global power on the strength of a failed campaign to delegitimize Obama, it’s also fitting that his own presidency will begin under a mix of suspicions and legitimacy questions that are very real and that Trump brought upon himself.

You do know it was sheriff Joe of Arizona who put this in the news not Trump he just ran with it.


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No- Donald Trump made it the news in 2011- and used it to appeal to Birthers until Trump won the primaries- and then he dumped Birthers
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Birthers are idiots. We have elected a recently 'reformed' Birther.

But despite Trump spending 5 years trying to undermine the legitimacy of our legally elected President, when Trump is sworn in, he will be legitimate.

No sheriff Joe was the orginal..

 

[Syriusly]

Who’s the Illegitimate President Now, Mr. Birtherism?
Trump spent five years trying to delegitimize Obama. Now he's taking office under a cloud of suspicion, and only has himself to blame.
BY BRIAN BEUTLER
January 13, 2017


It is ironic that Donald Trump owes his success in Republican politics, and thus ultimately his presidency, to birtherism given the extent to which he failed to bring birtherism mainstream.

Don’t Watch Donald Trump’s Inauguration

• Trump Is Exactly the Monster We Feared, and Republicans Are Enabling Him

He assumed leadership of the birther movement in March 2011 when he first expressed public doubts about whether President Barack Obama was born in the U.S. The next month, Obama put an end to the farce by producing his Hawaiian birth certificate at a White House press conference, and days later humiliated Trump during the White House Correspondents Dinner. But Trump kept expressing doubts about Obama’s country of origin until late in the 2016 presidential campaign, when he shamelessly attempted to blame the entire crusade on Hillary Clinton. Eventually he had the last laugh.

Birtherism was a huge plot line of his presidency, one generally pushed by elements of the conservative fringe. Though these conspiracy theorists were egged on by Republicans, birtherism never became a mainstream Republican rallying cry because it is racist and fabricated. But the propulsive force behind birtherism, if not the theory itself, was a widely shared right-wing desire to void Obama’s presidency. Racism led elements of the far right to adopt birtherism specifically, but their quest was for any revelation that could prevent Obama from running the country. Only a few criteria govern who can become president; one of them is that the president must be a natural-born citizen; birtherism thus emerges from circular reasoning and wishful thinking. It is a tool that allows political nemeses to trump all politics, which is why white candidates likeJohn McCain and Ted Cruz have also found themselves at the center of less obviously racist birther inquests.

But if it’s ironic that Trump rose to the pinnacle of global power on the strength of a failed campaign to delegitimize Obama, it’s also fitting that his own presidency will begin under a mix of suspicions and legitimacy questions that are very real and that Trump brought upon himself.

You do know it was sheriff Joe of Arizona who put this in the news not Trump he just ran with it.


.

No- Donald Trump made it the news in 2011- and used it to appeal to Birthers until Trump won the primaries- and then he dumped Birthers
View attachment 106967
View attachment 106968

Birthers are idiots. We have elected a recently 'reformed' Birther.

But despite Trump spending 5 years trying to undermine the legitimacy of our legally elected President, when Trump is sworn in, he will be legitimate.

No sheriff Joe was the orginal..

Joe was late to the game. He had a dentist/real estate agent/lawyer and another lawyer, and a conman before him.

But yes- Joe also attempted to use the issue of Birtherism to get the votes of gullible Birther idiots.

 

[RASTAMEN]

Who’s the Illegitimate President Now, Mr. Birtherism?
Trump spent five years trying to delegitimize Obama. Now he's taking office under a cloud of suspicion, and only has himself to blame.
BY BRIAN BEUTLER
January 13, 2017


It is ironic that Donald Trump owes his success in Republican politics, and thus ultimately his presidency, to birtherism given the extent to which he failed to bring birtherism mainstream.

Don’t Watch Donald Trump’s Inauguration

• Trump Is Exactly the Monster We Feared, and Republicans Are Enabling Him

He assumed leadership of the birther movement in March 2011 when he first expressed public doubts about whether President Barack Obama was born in the U.S. The next month, Obama put an end to the farce by producing his Hawaiian birth certificate at a White House press conference, and days later humiliated Trump during the White House Correspondents Dinner. But Trump kept expressing doubts about Obama’s country of origin until late in the 2016 presidential campaign, when he shamelessly attempted to blame the entire crusade on Hillary Clinton. Eventually he had the last laugh.

Birtherism was a huge plot line of his presidency, one generally pushed by elements of the conservative fringe. Though these conspiracy theorists were egged on by Republicans, birtherism never became a mainstream Republican rallying cry because it is racist and fabricated. But the propulsive force behind birtherism, if not the theory itself, was a widely shared right-wing desire to void Obama’s presidency. Racism led elements of the far right to adopt birtherism specifically, but their quest was for any revelation that could prevent Obama from running the country. Only a few criteria govern who can become president; one of them is that the president must be a natural-born citizen; birtherism thus emerges from circular reasoning and wishful thinking. It is a tool that allows political nemeses to trump all politics, which is why white candidates likeJohn McCain and Ted Cruz have also found themselves at the center of less obviously racist birther inquests.

But if it’s ironic that Trump rose to the pinnacle of global power on the strength of a failed campaign to delegitimize Obama, it’s also fitting that his own presidency will begin under a mix of suspicions and legitimacy questions that are very real and that Trump brought upon himself.

Who’s the Illegitimate President Now, Mr. Birtherism?
Trump spent five years trying to delegitimize Obama. Now he's taking office under a cloud of suspicion, and only has himself to blame.
BY BRIAN BEUTLER
January 13, 2017


It is ironic that Donald Trump owes his success in Republican politics, and thus ultimately his presidency, to birtherism given the extent to which he failed to bring birtherism mainstream.

Don’t Watch Donald Trump’s Inauguration

• Trump Is Exactly the Monster We Feared, and Republicans Are Enabling Him

He assumed leadership of the birther movement in March 2011 when he first expressed public doubts about whether President Barack Obama was born in the U.S. The next month, Obama put an end to the farce by producing his Hawaiian birth certificate at a White House press conference, and days later humiliated Trump during the White House Correspondents Dinner. But Trump kept expressing doubts about Obama’s country of origin until late in the 2016 presidential campaign, when he shamelessly attempted to blame the entire crusade on Hillary Clinton. Eventually he had the last laugh.

Birtherism was a huge plot line of his presidency, one generally pushed by elements of the conservative fringe. Though these conspiracy theorists were egged on by Republicans, birtherism never became a mainstream Republican rallying cry because it is racist and fabricated. But the propulsive force behind birtherism, if not the theory itself, was a widely shared right-wing desire to void Obama’s presidency. Racism led elements of the far right to adopt birtherism specifically, but their quest was for any revelation that could prevent Obama from running the country. Only a few criteria govern who can become president; one of them is that the president must be a natural-born citizen; birtherism thus emerges from circular reasoning and wishful thinking. It is a tool that allows political nemeses to trump all politics, which is why white candidates likeJohn McCain and Ted Cruz have also found themselves at the center of less obviously racist birther inquests.

But if it’s ironic that Trump rose to the pinnacle of global power on the strength of a failed campaign to delegitimize Obama, it’s also fitting that his own presidency will begin under a mix of suspicions and legitimacy questions that are very real and that Trump brought upon himself.

Trump is legit....you guys play politics with this shit.
People believed Obama wasn't born in the US and while it was incorrect, it is different than what you guys are doing.

You guys just keep letting Trump rape you over and over.

The constitution says nothing about letting another nation help in our elections

What was Obama doing when he was meddling in Israel's election?

What exactly did Russia do? No one has ever even answered that question!

Did they change vote totals? No.

Then they did NOTHING outside what Obama did to Netanyahu.

Meh! The truth is Trump has made to many enemies and this is before he is even sworn in to take his oath of Office to become the greatest FASCIST ever elected by Red State America.

Lay off the dope, bro.

Lay off the meth or conservative heroine you guys love to smoke.

 

[eddiew37]

Can we all agree the birther stuff is fake news?

Trump being a user of fake news is now getting his fake news cumuppence .

Just ask ted cruzs assassin dad and call girl wife .

Why do you suppose Obama started it all accusing himself of being born in Kenya? r

Why do you suppose kaz keeps making this lie?

He has been lying about this for years.

"Why do you think that Donald Trump had a three way with Putin?"

That is as truthful as kaz's posts.

ovember ninth to discover the worlds greatest democracy is being governed by a single party, and leadby a lawless authoritarian. All the checks and balances the framers of our constitution put in place to prevent this nightmare have been lowered by the people.
We, the freedom loving Americans must stand up to this tyranny while we still can. Time is short very, very short.
~Kevin McDermott ~

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

To make such a claim means you would have already had to have seen them. Is that the case? Since it's not, so much for your claim.

What banks and foreign governments are in business with Trump? What are his financial obligations here and, more critically overseas? We just don't know the extent of his ties and dealings, do we? Where are his tax returns, and, why doesn't he release them?

The question the American people need to have answered is what is he hiding and why?

This seems to cast a pall over his credibility and trustworthiness.

You don't like him because he beat the bitch you supported.

No. I don't like him because he acts like a petulant child, a boor and a bully. I don't TRUST him because he won't release his taxes.

Fine. Why don't you just shut up? You are the petullant child, boor and bully in this conversation.

You cannot make him release his taxes any more than you can force me to do so. Learn to live with it.

Just pointing out- that just a few years ago Donald Trump was the petullant child trying to get President Obama to release his college records.

Of course Trump is not obligated to release his tax returns- he can hide anything he wants.

Obama's college records would indicate if he committed fraud. He was under no obligation to release them but I think that they should have been subpoenaed to investigate if he attended college as a foreign student while holding American citizenship.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Can we all agree the birther stuff is fake news?

Trump being a user of fake news is now getting his fake news cumuppence .

Just ask ted cruzs assassin dad and call girl wife .

Why do you suppose Obama started it all accusing himself of being born in Kenya? r

Why do you suppose kaz keeps making this lie?

He has been lying about this for years.

"Why do you think that Donald Trump had a three way with Putin?"

That is as truthful as kaz's posts.

ovember ninth to discover the worlds greatest democracy is being governed by a single party, and leadby a lawless authoritarian. All the checks and balances the framers of our constitution put in place to prevent this nightmare have been lowered by the people.
We, the freedom loving Americans must stand up to this tyranny while we still can. Time is short very, very short.
~Kevin McDermott ~

Who is Kevin McDermott and why should we care what he thinks?

 

[eddiew37]

Who’s the Illegitimate President Now, Mr. Birtherism?
Trump spent five years trying to delegitimize Obama. Now he's taking office under a cloud of suspicion, and only has himself to blame.
BY BRIAN BEUTLER
January 13, 2017


It is ironic that Donald Trump owes his success in Republican politics, and thus ultimately his presidency, to birtherism given the extent to which he failed to bring birtherism mainstream.

Don’t Watch Donald Trump’s Inauguration

• Trump Is Exactly the Monster We Feared, and Republicans Are Enabling Him

He assumed leadership of the birther movement in March 2011 when he first expressed public doubts about whether President Barack Obama was born in the U.S. The next month, Obama put an end to the farce by producing his Hawaiian birth certificate at a White House press conference, and days later humiliated Trump during the White House Correspondents Dinner. But Trump kept expressing doubts about Obama’s country of origin until late in the 2016 presidential campaign, when he shamelessly attempted to blame the entire crusade on Hillary Clinton. Eventually he had the last laugh.

Birtherism was a huge plot line of his presidency, one generally pushed by elements of the conservative fringe. Though these conspiracy theorists were egged on by Republicans, birtherism never became a mainstream Republican rallying cry because it is racist and fabricated. But the propulsive force behind birtherism, if not the theory itself, was a widely shared right-wing desire to void Obama’s presidency. Racism led elements of the far right to adopt birtherism specifically, but their quest was for any revelation that could prevent Obama from running the country. Only a few criteria govern who can become president; one of them is that the president must be a natural-born citizen; birtherism thus emerges from circular reasoning and wishful thinking. It is a tool that allows political nemeses to trump all politics, which is why white candidates likeJohn McCain and Ted Cruz have also found themselves at the center of less obviously racist birther inquests.

But if it’s ironic that Trump rose to the pinnacle of global power on the strength of a failed campaign to delegitimize Obama, it’s also fitting that his own presidency will begin under a mix of suspicions and legitimacy questions that are very real and that Trump brought upon himself.

What suspicion? Trump won 304 electoral votes according to how the Constitution says the process should occur. Nothing suspicious about that?

Conflicts of interest. Russian connections. These are the salient issues concerning Trump's legitimacy. Had he disclosed his tax returns, had he had a more responsible response to the Russian hacking story, he might not be under this cloud of suspicion. Trump did not win a majority of the vote. He cannot effectively govern with just the support of his base. He will need the support of the whole nation.

Has the IRS charged him with anything? Has the IRS even suggested a problem with his taxes?

No?

Shut up then!

His tax returns will reveal his foreign connections. Presidents have released their taxes since Roosevelt. What is Trump hiding?

If the IRS is not concerned, why should anyone else be?

What on earth could it possibly show that is not already known?

Oh ,the amount of money he made that year whether he's telling the truth How much money he actually donated of his own money ,how much in taxes he paid his tax return will be like an open book into the lying sos 's finances,,,No wonder the thief won't show it

 

[RASTAMEN]

Who’s the Illegitimate President Now, Mr. Birtherism?
Trump spent five years trying to delegitimize Obama. Now he's taking office under a cloud of suspicion, and only has himself to blame.
BY BRIAN BEUTLER
January 13, 2017


It is ironic that Donald Trump owes his success in Republican politics, and thus ultimately his presidency, to birtherism given the extent to which he failed to bring birtherism mainstream.

Don’t Watch Donald Trump’s Inauguration

• Trump Is Exactly the Monster We Feared, and Republicans Are Enabling Him

He assumed leadership of the birther movement in March 2011 when he first expressed public doubts about whether President Barack Obama was born in the U.S. The next month, Obama put an end to the farce by producing his Hawaiian birth certificate at a White House press conference, and days later humiliated Trump during the White House Correspondents Dinner. But Trump kept expressing doubts about Obama’s country of origin until late in the 2016 presidential campaign, when he shamelessly attempted to blame the entire crusade on Hillary Clinton. Eventually he had the last laugh.

Birtherism was a huge plot line of his presidency, one generally pushed by elements of the conservative fringe. Though these conspiracy theorists were egged on by Republicans, birtherism never became a mainstream Republican rallying cry because it is racist and fabricated. But the propulsive force behind birtherism, if not the theory itself, was a widely shared right-wing desire to void Obama’s presidency. Racism led elements of the far right to adopt birtherism specifically, but their quest was for any revelation that could prevent Obama from running the country. Only a few criteria govern who can become president; one of them is that the president must be a natural-born citizen; birtherism thus emerges from circular reasoning and wishful thinking. It is a tool that allows political nemeses to trump all politics, which is why white candidates likeJohn McCain and Ted Cruz have also found themselves at the center of less obviously racist birther inquests.

But if it’s ironic that Trump rose to the pinnacle of global power on the strength of a failed campaign to delegitimize Obama, it’s also fitting that his own presidency will begin under a mix of suspicions and legitimacy questions that are very real and that Trump brought upon himself.

What suspicion? Trump won 304 electoral votes according to how the Constitution says the process should occur. Nothing suspicious about that?

Conflicts of interest. Russian connections. These are the salient issues concerning Trump's legitimacy. Had he disclosed his tax returns, had he had a more responsible response to the Russian hacking story, he might not be under this cloud of suspicion. Trump did not win a majority of the vote. He cannot effectively govern with just the support of his base. He will need the support of the whole nation.

Has the IRS charged him with anything? Has the IRS even suggested a problem with his taxes?

No?

Shut up then!

His tax returns will reveal his foreign connections. Presidents have released their taxes since Roosevelt. What is Trump hiding?

To make such a claim means you would have already had to have seen them. Is that the case? Since it's not, so much for your claim.

Trump must deal with his birtherisms over the next 4 years. Obama did it for 8 years! Why can't Trump do 4 years Trump deal with the same????

 

[RASTAMEN]

Can we all agree the birther stuff is fake news?

Trump being a user of fake news is now getting his fake news cumuppence .

Just ask ted cruzs assassin dad and call girl wife .

Why do you suppose Obama started it all accusing himself of being born in Kenya? r

Why do you suppose kaz keeps making this lie?

He has been lying about this for years.

"Why do you think that Donald Trump had a three way with Putin?"

That is as truthful as kaz's posts.

ovember ninth to discover the worlds greatest democracy is being governed by a single party, and leadby a lawless authoritarian. All the checks and balances the framers of our constitution put in place to prevent this nightmare have been lowered by the people.
We, the freedom loving Americans must stand up to this tyranny while we still can. Time is short very, very short.
~Kevin McDermott ~

Who is Kevin McDermott and why should we care what he thinks?

Just care about what conservatives think.......you nim rod.

 

[jc456]

You don't like him because he beat the bitch you supported.

No. I don't like him because he acts like a petulant child, a boor and a bully. I don't TRUST him because he won't release his taxes.

When he has to deal with Democrat plantation house negroes like John Lewis talking shit and acting like a child, I'd say that's defending yourself.

I didn't trust Obama. It took him 3 years to get a birth certificate. He lied to the people about keeping their plan/doctor. He did things with immigration that he said he had no authority to do. Difference is when I addressed that mistrust with Obama, people like you said it was racist.

Deal with it. Your bitch lost and Trump will be in on Friday. Have a wonderful time. Maybe your blood pressure will go up and cause a stroke.

You just don't get it. But, being hopelessly immature, racist, stupid beyond comprehension and blindly partisan, I wouldn't expect you to.

You're worthless as a debater. Utterly worthless.

well please explain it to us all, cause you're right, we don't get it.

And using the racist card and any other insult card gets you bubkis

How will Trump's obligations to banks both foreign and domestic effect his regulations in the banking industry? Will he be acting in the best interests of the American people, or his own bottom line? The same questions apply to foreign governments.

And my reply to your racist comrade was a direct slam on his 'house negro' comment, nothing you have said.

doesn't everyone have bank accounts? Again, he stated any money from his foreign accounts will be used to pay down the debt. Why is that bad. There is no way for him to recluse himself totally, it's fking impossible for you to believe he can. He was voted in, the nation will need to adjust how they view the position from now on. Just like when there is a loser like obummer in, we learned all about executive orders and dictatorships.

 

[RASTAMEN]

What banks and foreign governments are in business with Trump? What are his financial obligations here and, more critically overseas? We just don't know the extent of his ties and dealings, do we? Where are his tax returns, and, why doesn't he release them?

The question the American people need to have answered is what is he hiding and why?

This seems to cast a pall over his credibility and trustworthiness.

You don't like him because he beat the bitch you supported.

No. I don't like him because he acts like a petulant child, a boor and a bully. I don't TRUST him because he won't release his taxes.

Fine. Why don't you just shut up? You are the petullant child, boor and bully in this conversation.

You cannot make him release his taxes any more than you can force me to do so. Learn to live with it.

Just pointing out- that just a few years ago Donald Trump was the petullant child trying to get President Obama to release his college records.

Of course Trump is not obligated to release his tax returns- he can hide anything he wants.

Obama's college records would indicate if he committed fraud. He was under no obligation to release them but I think that they should have been subpoenaed to investigate if he attended college as a foreign student while holding American citizenship.

Trumps tax records over the last 20-25 years would show who he really is as well.

 

[jc456]

Conflicts of interest. Russian connections. These are the salient issues concerning Trump's legitimacy. Had he disclosed his tax returns, had he had a more responsible response to the Russian hacking story, he might not be under this cloud of suspicion. Trump did not win a majority of the vote. He cannot effectively govern with just the support of his base. He will need the support of the whole nation.

Has the IRS charged him with anything? Has the IRS even suggested a problem with his taxes?

No?

Shut up then!

His tax returns will reveal his foreign connections. Presidents have released their taxes since Roosevelt. What is Trump hiding?

it will? based on what information you have?

WE DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION TO MAKE A RATIONAL DECISION!!!

That's what we're asking for!

This isn't irresponsible allegations like Birtherism. This is the information EVERY president has released. What makes Trump so special that we cannot know the information every other modern president has provided?

Sometimes it's not what we know that's so important but what we don't know ,what the thin skinned liar is hiding

again, again, again, what is it you think he is going to do and why you should see his returns?

 

[eddiew37]

What suspicion? Trump won 304 electoral votes according to how the Constitution says the process should occur. Nothing suspicious about that?

Conflicts of interest. Russian connections. These are the salient issues concerning Trump's legitimacy. Had he disclosed his tax returns, had he had a more responsible response to the Russian hacking story, he might not be under this cloud of suspicion. Trump did not win a majority of the vote. He cannot effectively govern with just the support of his base. He will need the support of the whole nation.

Has the IRS charged him with anything? Has the IRS even suggested a problem with his taxes?

No?

Shut up then!

His tax returns will reveal his foreign connections. Presidents have released their taxes since Roosevelt. What is Trump hiding?

To make such a claim means you would have already had to have seen them. Is that the case? Since it's not, so much for your claim.

Trump must deal with his birtherisms over the next 4 years. Obama did it for 8 years! Why can't Trump do 4 years Trump deal with the same????

Why you ask ?? because he's a thin skinned phony pos Bashes Lewis ,the media ,the CIA, the FBI Streep NATO The EU etc etc When will the ah take care of the peoples business ALL the people???

 

[jc456]

Who’s the Illegitimate President Now, Mr. Birtherism?
Trump spent five years trying to delegitimize Obama. Now he's taking office under a cloud of suspicion, and only has himself to blame.
BY BRIAN BEUTLER
January 13, 2017


It is ironic that Donald Trump owes his success in Republican politics, and thus ultimately his presidency, to birtherism given the extent to which he failed to bring birtherism mainstream.

Don’t Watch Donald Trump’s Inauguration

• Trump Is Exactly the Monster We Feared, and Republicans Are Enabling Him

He assumed leadership of the birther movement in March 2011 when he first expressed public doubts about whether President Barack Obama was born in the U.S. The next month, Obama put an end to the farce by producing his Hawaiian birth certificate at a White House press conference, and days later humiliated Trump during the White House Correspondents Dinner. But Trump kept expressing doubts about Obama’s country of origin until late in the 2016 presidential campaign, when he shamelessly attempted to blame the entire crusade on Hillary Clinton. Eventually he had the last laugh.

Birtherism was a huge plot line of his presidency, one generally pushed by elements of the conservative fringe. Though these conspiracy theorists were egged on by Republicans, birtherism never became a mainstream Republican rallying cry because it is racist and fabricated. But the propulsive force behind birtherism, if not the theory itself, was a widely shared right-wing desire to void Obama’s presidency. Racism led elements of the far right to adopt birtherism specifically, but their quest was for any revelation that could prevent Obama from running the country. Only a few criteria govern who can become president; one of them is that the president must be a natural-born citizen; birtherism thus emerges from circular reasoning and wishful thinking. It is a tool that allows political nemeses to trump all politics, which is why white candidates likeJohn McCain and Ted Cruz have also found themselves at the center of less obviously racist birther inquests.

But if it’s ironic that Trump rose to the pinnacle of global power on the strength of a failed campaign to delegitimize Obama, it’s also fitting that his own presidency will begin under a mix of suspicions and legitimacy questions that are very real and that Trump brought upon himself.

It was hilarious though how Obama accused himself of being born in Kenya to his publisher. ?

It is hilarious that Kaz can't keep kazzing.

Despite Trump's Birther lies- Barack Obama was of course legitimate, and of course there is no evidence that President Obama ever said he was born in Kenya to anyone.

Kaz is just kazzing again- but that is what kaz does.

sure obummer did, put it in a book as well. but why look at facts when you can kiss an ass.

 

[jc456]

Conflicts of interest. Russian connections. These are the salient issues concerning Trump's legitimacy. Had he disclosed his tax returns, had he had a more responsible response to the Russian hacking story, he might not be under this cloud of suspicion. Trump did not win a majority of the vote. He cannot effectively govern with just the support of his base. He will need the support of the whole nation.

Has the IRS charged him with anything? Has the IRS even suggested a problem with his taxes?

No?

Shut up then!

His tax returns will reveal his foreign connections. Presidents have released their taxes since Roosevelt. What is Trump hiding?

To make such a claim means you would have already had to have seen them. Is that the case? Since it's not, so much for your claim.

Trump must deal with his birtherisms over the next 4 years. Obama did it for 8 years! Why can't Trump do 4 years Trump deal with the same????

Why you ask ?? because he's a thin skinned phony pos Bashes Lewis ,the media ,the CIA, the FBI Streep NATO The EU etc etc When will the ah take care of the peoples business ALL the people???

after he's sworn in maybe? You know he isn't in office yet right? Please tell me you know this, please tell me so.

 

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Has the IRS charged him with anything? Has the IRS even suggested a problem with his taxes?

No?

Shut up then!

His tax returns will reveal his foreign connections. Presidents have released their taxes since Roosevelt. What is Trump hiding?

it will? based on what information you have?

WE DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION TO MAKE A RATIONAL DECISION!!!

That's what we're asking for!

This isn't irresponsible allegations like Birtherism. This is the information EVERY president has released. What makes Trump so special that we cannot know the information every other modern president has provided?

Sometimes it's not what we know that's so important but what we don't know ,what the thin skinned liar is hiding

again, again, again, what is it you think he is going to do and why you should see his returns?

Why?? I'd like to see how much Putin gave him and how he's hiding it