Why be a liberal?

[Iceweasel]

This nation was founded left. The right are the enemies of liberty. Americans in name only.

But are we at war with the right?

I hope so. We are better prepared.

 

[Billo_Really]

Who said they wanted a Socialist State (although Paine did). The founded a secular nation based upon liberalism.

Some socialism is good for the country. People sure do like their Medicare and Social Security. So we're a capitalist country with a little socialism on the side.

That's much better than this totalitarian capitalism the right is advertising.

 

[RightyTighty]

Is right vs left in this country a war?

Is right wing and left wing a yin and a yang that need each other to fly?

Or is the political right and political left two warring kingdoms competing for exclusive dominion over the same space?

This nation was founded left. The right are the enemies of liberty. Americans in name only.

You keep puking up the same shit and can't defend any of it. If the founders wanted a socialist state they would have set one up.

Who said they wanted a Socialist State (although Paine did). The founded a secular nation based upon liberalism.

You say the same thing over and over but that doesn't create facts. Go ahead and prove it. You can't. I, however, can prove we were founded as a small limited government, mostly by successful capitalists who had freedom very much in mind. Even thought guns were so important it was the second thing they said.

The exact opposite that every modern day liberal believes in.

Start with this, dumbass, The First Amendment, ratified with nine more (the Bill of Rights) two and half years after the Constitution was, was the third of 12 proposed amendments, making the Second Amendment the Fourth. Learn fucking American history.

And spare us the modern day liberal shit. That's not the topic.

 

[RightyTighty]

Who said they wanted a Socialist State (although Paine did). The founded a secular nation based upon liberalism.

Some socialism is good for the country. People sure do like their Medicare and Social Security. So we're a capitalist country with a little socialism on the side.

That's much better than this totalitarian capitalism the right is advertising.

We are a Mixed Economy, like most Western nations. Look it up.

 

[Billo_Really]

Fuck yeah. The ISIS of America.

I understand why you say that and I hope you're wrong.

 

[Billo_Really]

We are a Mixed Economy, like most Western nations. Look it up.

I agree.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

With liberalism you get this - liberty.

Liberty rocks. The Founders were liberals. Now, why don't you understand this? You should be all over defending liberty like white on rice but you aren't. Why so?

Sooooo.....if "liberalism" equals liberty.....

Then you totally were against the gay couple that sued the nice Christian couple who refused to bake a cake for their gay wedding right?
You fully supported THEIR LIBERTY to decide whether or not they wanted to bake a cake for a gay couple.?

 

[RightyTighty]

Fuck yeah. The ISIS of America.

I understand why you say that and I hope you're wrong.

I'm not. The reactionaries are always trying to turn this nation into Jesus-land.

 

[Billo_Really]

You say the same thing over and over but that doesn't create facts. Go ahead and prove it. You can't. I, however, can prove we were founded as a small limited government, mostly by successful capitalists who had freedom very much in mind. Even thought guns were so important it was the second thing they said.

The exact opposite that every modern day liberal believes in.

Freedom to you means the total absence of responsibility.

 

[RightyTighty]

With liberalism you get this - liberty.

Liberty rocks. The Founders were liberals. Now, why don't you understand this? You should be all over defending liberty like white on rice but you aren't. Why so?

Sooooo.....if "liberalism" equals liberty.....

Then you totally were against the gay couple that sued the nice couple who refused to bake a cake for their gay wedding right?
You fully supported THEIR LIBERTY to decide whether or not they wanted to bake a cake for a gay couple.?

Ah, no, because the morons were running a public accommodation. Serve one serve all. Those are the rules. Baking cakes for cash isn't serving God. Save your petty hatreds for - church.

 

[Billo_Really]

I'm not. The reactionaries are always trying to turn this nation into Jesus-land.

If that happens, I'm issuing a fatwa!

Can a Catholic issue fatwa's?

 

[namvet]

why not?? libs make great town criers

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Thread summary:

Several conservatives were enraged to the point of hysteria by religious freedom, and they now want their their precious authoritarian state to stomp hard on religious freedom.

Not every conservative is a Constitution-hating authoritarian, but most of them are.

Your clumsy utilization of Alinsky techniques is marginally amusing, but ultimately forgettable.

 

[Iceweasel]

Is right vs left in this country a war?

Is right wing and left wing a yin and a yang that need each other to fly?

Or is the political right and political left two warring kingdoms competing for exclusive dominion over the same space?

This nation was founded left. The right are the enemies of liberty. Americans in name only.

You keep puking up the same shit and can't defend any of it. If the founders wanted a socialist state they would have set one up.

Who said they wanted a Socialist State (although Paine did). The founded a secular nation based upon liberalism.

You say the same thing over and over but that doesn't create facts. Go ahead and prove it. You can't. I, however, can prove we were founded as a small limited government, mostly by successful capitalists who had freedom very much in mind. Even thought guns were so important it was the second thing they said.

The exact opposite that every modern day liberal believes in.

Start with this, dumbass, The First Amendment, ratified with nine more (the Bill of Rights) two and half years after the Constitution was, was the third of 12 proposed amendments, making the Second Amendment the Fourth. Learn fucking American history.

And spare us the modern day liberal shit. That's not the topic.

It's called the second amendment because it's the second one, right after the first one. Doesn't matter when it was voted on or discussed. All you have are puerile insults, can't back up a fucking thing you say. You pathetic twisted little piece of shit. Typical of the left though.

 

[RightyTighty]

This nation was founded left. The right are the enemies of liberty. Americans in name only.

You keep puking up the same shit and can't defend any of it. If the founders wanted a socialist state they would have set one up.

Who said they wanted a Socialist State (although Paine did). The founded a secular nation based upon liberalism.

You say the same thing over and over but that doesn't create facts. Go ahead and prove it. You can't. I, however, can prove we were founded as a small limited government, mostly by successful capitalists who had freedom very much in mind. Even thought guns were so important it was the second thing they said.

The exact opposite that every modern day liberal believes in.

Start with this, dumbass, The First Amendment, ratified with nine more (the Bill of Rights) two and half years after the Constitution was, was the third of 12 proposed amendments, making the Second Amendment the Fourth. Learn fucking American history.

And spare us the modern day liberal shit. That's not the topic.

It's called the second amendment because it's the second one, right after the first one. Doesn't matter when it was voted on or discussed. All you have are puerile insults, can't back up a fucking thing you say. You pathetic twisted little piece of shit. Typical of the left though.

The Second (which was actually #4), idiot.

 

[Iceweasel]

You say the same thing over and over but that doesn't create facts. Go ahead and prove it. You can't. I, however, can prove we were founded as a small limited government, mostly by successful capitalists who had freedom very much in mind. Even thought guns were so important it was the second thing they said.

The exact opposite that every modern day liberal believes in.

Freedom to you means the total absence of responsibility.

Liar. That's all you do, misrepresent and lie.

 

[Iceweasel]

You keep puking up the same shit and can't defend any of it. If the founders wanted a socialist state they would have set one up.

Who said they wanted a Socialist State (although Paine did). The founded a secular nation based upon liberalism.

You say the same thing over and over but that doesn't create facts. Go ahead and prove it. You can't. I, however, can prove we were founded as a small limited government, mostly by successful capitalists who had freedom very much in mind. Even thought guns were so important it was the second thing they said.

The exact opposite that every modern day liberal believes in.

Start with this, dumbass, The First Amendment, ratified with nine more (the Bill of Rights) two and half years after the Constitution was, was the third of 12 proposed amendments, making the Second Amendment the Fourth. Learn fucking American history.

And spare us the modern day liberal shit. That's not the topic.

It's called the second amendment because it's the second one, right after the first one. Doesn't matter when it was voted on or discussed. All you have are puerile insults, can't back up a fucking thing you say. You pathetic twisted little piece of shit. Typical of the left though.

The Second (which was actually #4), idiot.

Not in our Constitution. See above. You have nothing.

 

[RightyTighty]

Who said they wanted a Socialist State (although Paine did). The founded a secular nation based upon liberalism.

You say the same thing over and over but that doesn't create facts. Go ahead and prove it. You can't. I, however, can prove we were founded as a small limited government, mostly by successful capitalists who had freedom very much in mind. Even thought guns were so important it was the second thing they said.

The exact opposite that every modern day liberal believes in.

Start with this, dumbass, The First Amendment, ratified with nine more (the Bill of Rights) two and half years after the Constitution was, was the third of 12 proposed amendments, making the Second Amendment the Fourth. Learn fucking American history.

And spare us the modern day liberal shit. That's not the topic.

It's called the second amendment because it's the second one, right after the first one. Doesn't matter when it was voted on or discussed. All you have are puerile insults, can't back up a fucking thing you say. You pathetic twisted little piece of shit. Typical of the left though.

The Second (which was actually #4), idiot.

Not in our Constitution. See above. You have nothing.

What I have is a dumbshit who thinks guns were so important they made them number two when they were actually - number four.

 

[Yousaidwhat]

Watching the conservatives here live their lives on their knees, that only elicits sadness in us now. It's impossible to be angry at creatures who are so pitiful.

We've tried to save them, to make loyal Americans out of them again. It didn't work. They don't want to be saved. They've become addicted to licking the boots of their authoritarian masters. At this point, we have to cut them loose. Conservatives can't be helped until they want to be helped, and they'll have to hit rock bottom before that happens.

You need to venture out into the world.

If that is too difficult, then I suggest you open an window.

. No windows in his mommy's basement.. lol

That would explain everything.

lol.

 

[Iceweasel]

You say the same thing over and over but that doesn't create facts. Go ahead and prove it. You can't. I, however, can prove we were founded as a small limited government, mostly by successful capitalists who had freedom very much in mind. Even thought guns were so important it was the second thing they said.

The exact opposite that every modern day liberal believes in.

Start with this, dumbass, The First Amendment, ratified with nine more (the Bill of Rights) two and half years after the Constitution was, was the third of 12 proposed amendments, making the Second Amendment the Fourth. Learn fucking American history.

And spare us the modern day liberal shit. That's not the topic.

It's called the second amendment because it's the second one, right after the first one. Doesn't matter when it was voted on or discussed. All you have are puerile insults, can't back up a fucking thing you say. You pathetic twisted little piece of shit. Typical of the left though.

The Second (which was actually #4), idiot.

Not in our Constitution. See above. You have nothing.

What I have is a dumbshit who thinks guns were so important they made them number two when they were actually - number four.

Liar. Idiot. Moron.

U.S. Constitution - Amendment 2 - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net