Why be a liberal?

[RightyTighty]

Start with this, dumbass, The First Amendment, ratified with nine more (the Bill of Rights) two and half years after the Constitution was, was the third of 12 proposed amendments, making the Second Amendment the Fourth. Learn fucking American history.

And spare us the modern day liberal shit. That's not the topic.

It's called the second amendment because it's the second one, right after the first one. Doesn't matter when it was voted on or discussed. All you have are puerile insults, can't back up a fucking thing you say. You pathetic twisted little piece of shit. Typical of the left though.

The Second (which was actually #4), idiot.

Not in our Constitution. See above. You have nothing.

What I have is a dumbshit who thinks guns were so important they made them number two when they were actually - number four.

Liar. Idiot. Moron.

U.S. Constitution - Amendment 2 - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net

God, you're an idiot.

Articles in Addition to, and Amendment of, the Constitution of the United States of America, proposed by Congress, and ratified by the Legislatures of the several States, pursuant to the Fifth Article of the original Constitution.

Art. I. After the first enumeration required by the first article of the Constitution, there shall be one representative for every thirty thousand, until the number shall amount to one hundred, after which the proportion shall be so regulated by Congress, that there shall not be less than one hundred representatives, nor less than one representative for every forty thousand persons, until the number of representatives shall amount to two hundred, after which the proportion shall be so regulated by Congress, that there shall not be less than two hundred representatives, nor more than one representative for every fifty thousand.

Art. II. No law varying the compensation for services of the senators and representatives shall take effect, until an election of representatives shall have intervened.

Art. III. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


Art. IV. A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Art. V. No soldier shall, in time of peace, be quartered in any house without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner prescribed by law.
Bill of Rights: Proposed Amendments and Ratification

 

[beagle9]

Poor thing. What a shame. The regressives defend a religion that treats women and gays like that, and they even go into spin mode after jihadist atrocities.

These are not liberals, they are "progressives" (ha).
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How do these people treat women?

. Don't know, so why don't you ask their women if got the nerve. Is this pic supposed to be saying something to us about the way women are treated in America ? For all you know this cat might be a super dad and great husband, but your stereotyping is noted the next time you want to call others out on stereotyping someone's physical appearance. This cat looks like someone who might have fought in Afghanistan, and saved someone with his brave actions. Couldn't have been that right ? Doesn't fit with your narrative does it ?

 

[beagle9]

I'm sure that when mamooth returns, he'll be able to show me where I said the woman couldn't exercise her religious freedom.

I'm sure he'll knock it out of the park, with clear examples.

Because if he can't, that would make him a liar. And regressives are NEVER liars.
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What you've said is, hey, I'm too stupid to understand the difference between religious freedom and that freedom used in ways that I disapprove of.

. That you disapprove of ?? LOL

 

[RightyTighty]

I'm sure that when mamooth returns, he'll be able to show me where I said the woman couldn't exercise her religious freedom.

I'm sure he'll knock it out of the park, with clear examples.

Because if he can't, that would make him a liar. And regressives are NEVER liars.
.

What you've said is, hey, I'm too stupid to understand the difference between religious freedom and that freedom used in ways that I disapprove of.

. That you disapprove of ?? LOL

Mac, like most, approves of religious freedom only for those he approves of doing what he approves of.

 

[Mac1958]

I'm sure that when mamooth returns, he'll be able to show me where I said the woman couldn't exercise her religious freedom.

I'm sure he'll knock it out of the park, with clear examples.

Because if he can't, that would make him a liar. And regressives are NEVER liars.
.

What you've said is, hey, I'm too stupid to understand the difference between religious freedom and that freedom used in ways that I disapprove of.

. That you disapprove of ?? LOL

Mac, like most, approves of religious freedom only for those he approves of doing what he approves of.

So you're still on this phony "religious freedom" thing, regressive.

Prove it. Show me the post where I said that.

Since we both know you're lying (again), let's see what kind of spin you can come up with.

I'll wait here.


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[RightyTighty]

I'm sure that when mamooth returns, he'll be able to show me where I said the woman couldn't exercise her religious freedom.

I'm sure he'll knock it out of the park, with clear examples.

Because if he can't, that would make him a liar. And regressives are NEVER liars.
.

What you've said is, hey, I'm too stupid to understand the difference between religious freedom and that freedom used in ways that I disapprove of.

. That you disapprove of ?? LOL

Mac, like most, approves of religious freedom only for those he approves of doing what he approves of.

So you're still on this phony "religious freedom" thing, regressive.

Prove it. Show me the post where I said that.

Since we both know you're lying (again), let's see what kind of spin you can come up with.

I'll wait here.


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All you have to do to prove me wrong, Mac is take a stand. All you have to say is - I approve of women wearing the burka-burkini here as that is - religious freedom.

 

[Mac1958]

I'm sure that when mamooth returns, he'll be able to show me where I said the woman couldn't exercise her religious freedom.

I'm sure he'll knock it out of the park, with clear examples.

Because if he can't, that would make him a liar. And regressives are NEVER liars.
.

What you've said is, hey, I'm too stupid to understand the difference between religious freedom and that freedom used in ways that I disapprove of.

. That you disapprove of ?? LOL

Mac, like most, approves of religious freedom only for those he approves of doing what he approves of.

So you're still on this phony "religious freedom" thing, regressive.

Prove it. Show me the post where I said that.

Since we both know you're lying (again), let's see what kind of spin you can come up with.

I'll wait here.


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All you have to do to prove me wrong, Mac is that a stand. All you have to say is - I approve of women wearing the burka-burkinin here as that is - religious freedom.

Of course:

I approve of women wearing the burka-burkinin here, as that is religious freedom.

What I don't approve of is the dishonesty, hypocrisy, hate and tragically counter-productive behavior of the Regressive Left.

Like you.

There. Nice and clear now, Mr. Fence Sitter.
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[RightyTighty]

What you've said is, hey, I'm too stupid to understand the difference between religious freedom and that freedom used in ways that I disapprove of.

. That you disapprove of ?? LOL

Mac, like most, approves of religious freedom only for those he approves of doing what he approves of.

So you're still on this phony "religious freedom" thing, regressive.

Prove it. Show me the post where I said that.

Since we both know you're lying (again), let's see what kind of spin you can come up with.

I'll wait here.


.

All you have to do to prove me wrong, Mac is that a stand. All you have to say is - I approve of women wearing the burka-burkinin here as that is - religious freedom.

Of course:

I approve of women wearing the burka-burkinin here, as that is religious freedom.

What I don't approve of is the dishonesty, hypocrisy, hate and tragically counter-productive behavior of the Regressive Left.

Like you.

There. Nice and clear now, Mr. Fence Sitter.
.

Wonderful, just great. Mac in the middle finally took a stand. It's like pulling teeth but it happened. Let's move on down the road.

And less than 300 posts. Will wonders never cease.

 

[Mac1958]

. That you disapprove of ?? LOL

Mac, like most, approves of religious freedom only for those he approves of doing what he approves of.

So you're still on this phony "religious freedom" thing, regressive.

Prove it. Show me the post where I said that.

Since we both know you're lying (again), let's see what kind of spin you can come up with.

I'll wait here.


.

All you have to do to prove me wrong, Mac is that a stand. All you have to say is - I approve of women wearing the burka-burkinin here as that is - religious freedom.

Of course:

I approve of women wearing the burka-burkinin here, as that is religious freedom.

What I don't approve of is the dishonesty, hypocrisy, hate and tragically counter-productive behavior of the Regressive Left.

Like you.

There. Nice and clear now, Mr. Fence Sitter.
.

Wonderful, just great. Mac in the middle finally took a stand. It's like pulling teeth but it happened. Let's move on down the road.

You bet, Mr. Fence Sitter.
.

 

[Iceweasel]

It's called the second amendment because it's the second one, right after the first one. Doesn't matter when it was voted on or discussed. All you have are puerile insults, can't back up a fucking thing you say. You pathetic twisted little piece of shit. Typical of the left though.

The Second (which was actually #4), idiot.

Not in our Constitution. See above. You have nothing.

What I have is a dumbshit who thinks guns were so important they made them number two when they were actually - number four.

Liar. Idiot. Moron.

U.S. Constitution - Amendment 2 - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net

God, you're an idiot.

Articles in Addition to, and Amendment of, the Constitution of the United States of America, proposed by Congress, and ratified by the Legislatures of the several States, pursuant to the Fifth Article of the original Constitution.

Art. I. After the first enumeration required by the first article of the Constitution, there shall be one representative for every thirty thousand, until the number shall amount to one hundred, after which the proportion shall be so regulated by Congress, that there shall not be less than one hundred representatives, nor less than one representative for every forty thousand persons, until the number of representatives shall amount to two hundred, after which the proportion shall be so regulated by Congress, that there shall not be less than two hundred representatives, nor more than one representative for every fifty thousand.

Art. II. No law varying the compensation for services of the senators and representatives shall take effect, until an election of representatives shall have intervened.

Art. III. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


Art. IV. A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Art. V. No soldier shall, in time of peace, be quartered in any house without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner prescribed by law.
Bill of Rights: Proposed Amendments and Ratification

Puking baby shit doesn't the fact that isn't the final draft. You sling shit around and support nothing. Plus you now want to totally sidestep your idiotic position that the founders were libs!

 

[beagle9]

Is right vs left in this country a war?

Is right wing and left wing a yin and a yang that need each other to fly?

Or is the political right and political left two warring kingdoms competing for exclusive dominion over the same space?

. The left has made the latter possible because they have fired the first shots in the war, so yes it is a war now.

 

[RightyTighty]

The Second (which was actually #4), idiot.

Not in our Constitution. See above. You have nothing.

What I have is a dumbshit who thinks guns were so important they made them number two when they were actually - number four.

Liar. Idiot. Moron.

U.S. Constitution - Amendment 2 - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net

God, you're an idiot.

Articles in Addition to, and Amendment of, the Constitution of the United States of America, proposed by Congress, and ratified by the Legislatures of the several States, pursuant to the Fifth Article of the original Constitution.

Art. I. After the first enumeration required by the first article of the Constitution, there shall be one representative for every thirty thousand, until the number shall amount to one hundred, after which the proportion shall be so regulated by Congress, that there shall not be less than one hundred representatives, nor less than one representative for every forty thousand persons, until the number of representatives shall amount to two hundred, after which the proportion shall be so regulated by Congress, that there shall not be less than two hundred representatives, nor more than one representative for every fifty thousand.

Art. II. No law varying the compensation for services of the senators and representatives shall take effect, until an election of representatives shall have intervened.

Art. III. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


Art. IV. A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Art. V. No soldier shall, in time of peace, be quartered in any house without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner prescribed by law.
Bill of Rights: Proposed Amendments and Ratification

Puking baby shit doesn't the fact that isn't the final draft. You sling shit around and support nothing. Plus you now want to totally sidestep your idiotic position that the founders were libs!

They were liberals, you fucking moron. Do you even know what liberalism is?

"Liberalism, political doctrine that takes protecting and enhancing the freedom of the individual to be the central problem of politics. Liberals typically believe that government is necessary to protect individuals from being harmed by others; but they also recognize that government itself can pose a threat to liberty. As the revolutionary American pamphleteer Thomas Paine expressed it in “Common Sense” (1776), government is at best “a necessary evil.” Laws, judges, and police are needed to secure the individual’s life and liberty, but their coercive power may also be turned against him. The problem, then, is to devise a system that gives government the power necessary to protect individual liberty but also prevents those who govern from abusing that power."

 

[beagle9]

This nation was founded left. The right are the enemies of liberty. Americans in name only.

But are we at war with the right?

. He is..

 

[beagle9]

Who said they wanted a Socialist State (although Paine did). The founded a secular nation based upon liberalism.

Some socialism is good for the country. People sure do like their Medicare and Social Security. So we're a capitalist country with a little socialism on the side.

That's much better than this totalitarian capitalism the right is advertising.

. If the right is advertising anything, it is because the left has pushed it into advertising their displeasure in the left's wanting to fundementally transform this nation into what they now figure that it has to be transformed into in order to accommodate them and their new ways of thinking and acting.

 

[Iceweasel]

Not in our Constitution. See above. You have nothing.

What I have is a dumbshit who thinks guns were so important they made them number two when they were actually - number four.

Liar. Idiot. Moron.

U.S. Constitution - Amendment 2 - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net

God, you're an idiot.

Articles in Addition to, and Amendment of, the Constitution of the United States of America, proposed by Congress, and ratified by the Legislatures of the several States, pursuant to the Fifth Article of the original Constitution.

Art. I. After the first enumeration required by the first article of the Constitution, there shall be one representative for every thirty thousand, until the number shall amount to one hundred, after which the proportion shall be so regulated by Congress, that there shall not be less than one hundred representatives, nor less than one representative for every forty thousand persons, until the number of representatives shall amount to two hundred, after which the proportion shall be so regulated by Congress, that there shall not be less than two hundred representatives, nor more than one representative for every fifty thousand.

Art. II. No law varying the compensation for services of the senators and representatives shall take effect, until an election of representatives shall have intervened.

Art. III. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


Art. IV. A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Art. V. No soldier shall, in time of peace, be quartered in any house without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner prescribed by law.
Bill of Rights: Proposed Amendments and Ratification

Puking baby shit doesn't the fact that isn't the final draft. You sling shit around and support nothing. Plus you now want to totally sidestep your idiotic position that the founders were libs!

They were liberals, you fucking moron. Do you even know what liberalism is?

"Liberalism, political doctrine that takes protecting and enhancing the freedom of the individual to be the central problem of politics. Liberals typically believe that government is necessary to protect individuals from being harmed by others; but they also recognize that government itself can pose a threat to liberty. As the revolutionary American pamphleteer Thomas Paine expressed it in “Common Sense” (1776), government is at best “a necessary evil.” Laws, judges, and police are needed to secure the individual’s life and liberty, but their coercive power may also be turned against him. The problem, then, is to devise a system that gives government the power necessary to protect individual liberty but also prevents those who govern from abusing that power."

You're a boring little shit. You can't support your statement so you fall back on a definition that doesn't reflect post modern liberalism. At all. You might as well post liberalism = goodness, purity, saintly. Anything but show us how the founders were liberals.

 

[RightyTighty]

What I have is a dumbshit who thinks guns were so important they made them number two when they were actually - number four.

Liar. Idiot. Moron.

U.S. Constitution - Amendment 2 - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net

God, you're an idiot.

Articles in Addition to, and Amendment of, the Constitution of the United States of America, proposed by Congress, and ratified by the Legislatures of the several States, pursuant to the Fifth Article of the original Constitution.

Art. I. After the first enumeration required by the first article of the Constitution, there shall be one representative for every thirty thousand, until the number shall amount to one hundred, after which the proportion shall be so regulated by Congress, that there shall not be less than one hundred representatives, nor less than one representative for every forty thousand persons, until the number of representatives shall amount to two hundred, after which the proportion shall be so regulated by Congress, that there shall not be less than two hundred representatives, nor more than one representative for every fifty thousand.

Art. II. No law varying the compensation for services of the senators and representatives shall take effect, until an election of representatives shall have intervened.

Art. III. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


Art. IV. A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Art. V. No soldier shall, in time of peace, be quartered in any house without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner prescribed by law.
Bill of Rights: Proposed Amendments and Ratification

Puking baby shit doesn't the fact that isn't the final draft. You sling shit around and support nothing. Plus you now want to totally sidestep your idiotic position that the founders were libs!

They were liberals, you fucking moron. Do you even know what liberalism is?

"Liberalism, political doctrine that takes protecting and enhancing the freedom of the individual to be the central problem of politics. Liberals typically believe that government is necessary to protect individuals from being harmed by others; but they also recognize that government itself can pose a threat to liberty. As the revolutionary American pamphleteer Thomas Paine expressed it in “Common Sense” (1776), government is at best “a necessary evil.” Laws, judges, and police are needed to secure the individual’s life and liberty, but their coercive power may also be turned against him. The problem, then, is to devise a system that gives government the power necessary to protect individual liberty but also prevents those who govern from abusing that power."

You're a boring little shit. You can't support your statement so you fall back on a definition that doesn't reflect post modern liberalism. At all. You might as well post liberalism = goodness, purity, saintly. Anything but show us how the founders were liberals.

I'm not interested in so-called modern liberalism. And the Founders were liberals you jackass.

 

[Iceweasel]

Liar. Idiot. Moron.

U.S. Constitution - Amendment 2 - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net

God, you're an idiot.

Articles in Addition to, and Amendment of, the Constitution of the United States of America, proposed by Congress, and ratified by the Legislatures of the several States, pursuant to the Fifth Article of the original Constitution.

Art. I. After the first enumeration required by the first article of the Constitution, there shall be one representative for every thirty thousand, until the number shall amount to one hundred, after which the proportion shall be so regulated by Congress, that there shall not be less than one hundred representatives, nor less than one representative for every forty thousand persons, until the number of representatives shall amount to two hundred, after which the proportion shall be so regulated by Congress, that there shall not be less than two hundred representatives, nor more than one representative for every fifty thousand.

Art. II. No law varying the compensation for services of the senators and representatives shall take effect, until an election of representatives shall have intervened.

Art. III. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


Art. IV. A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Art. V. No soldier shall, in time of peace, be quartered in any house without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner prescribed by law.
Bill of Rights: Proposed Amendments and Ratification

Puking baby shit doesn't the fact that isn't the final draft. You sling shit around and support nothing. Plus you now want to totally sidestep your idiotic position that the founders were libs!

They were liberals, you fucking moron. Do you even know what liberalism is?

"Liberalism, political doctrine that takes protecting and enhancing the freedom of the individual to be the central problem of politics. Liberals typically believe that government is necessary to protect individuals from being harmed by others; but they also recognize that government itself can pose a threat to liberty. As the revolutionary American pamphleteer Thomas Paine expressed it in “Common Sense” (1776), government is at best “a necessary evil.” Laws, judges, and police are needed to secure the individual’s life and liberty, but their coercive power may also be turned against him. The problem, then, is to devise a system that gives government the power necessary to protect individual liberty but also prevents those who govern from abusing that power."

You're a boring little shit. You can't support your statement so you fall back on a definition that doesn't reflect post modern liberalism. At all. You might as well post liberalism = goodness, purity, saintly. Anything but show us how the founders were liberals.

I'm not interested in so-called modern liberalism. And the Founders were liberals you jackass.

English is important when discussing concepts in English. The founders were not liberal by modern terms so it's ignorant or dishonest to say so.

 

[Marion Morrison]

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

With liberalism you get this - liberty.

Liberty rocks. The Founders were liberals. Now, why don't you understand this? You should be all over defending liberty like white on rice but you aren't. Why so?

Sooooo.....if "liberalism" equals liberty.....

Then you totally were against the gay couple that sued the nice couple who refused to bake a cake for their gay wedding right?
You fully supported THEIR LIBERTY to decide whether or not they wanted to bake a cake for a gay couple.?

Ah, no, because the morons were running a public accommodation. Serve one serve all. Those are the rules. Baking cakes for cash isn't serving God. Save your petty hatreds for - church.

So as everyone already KNEW...you're a goddamned hypocrite just like the rest of your assclown friends.

LIBERTY (as long as it means for YOUR AGENDA, YOUR WAY ONLY)

GTFO

 

[RightyTighty]

With liberalism you get this - liberty.

Liberty rocks. The Founders were liberals. Now, why don't you understand this? You should be all over defending liberty like white on rice but you aren't. Why so?

Sooooo.....if "liberalism" equals liberty.....

Then you totally were against the gay couple that sued the nice couple who refused to bake a cake for their gay wedding right?
You fully supported THEIR LIBERTY to decide whether or not they wanted to bake a cake for a gay couple.?

Ah, no, because the morons were running a public accommodation. Serve one serve all. Those are the rules. Baking cakes for cash isn't serving God. Save your petty hatreds for - church.

So as everyone already KNEW...you're a goddamned hypocrite just like the rest of your assclown friends.

LIBERTY (as long as it means for YOUR AGENDA, YOUR WAY ONLY)

GTFO

Ah, no. But I won't back down from liberalism so you can have your theocracy.