Why Bernie Wins in One Word: Class

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Silly Marxists never learn.

Yes. That's why we must heed Johnny Ramone's advice:

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It is very natural for a taker like Bernie to wanna take from the makers.

The rich are parasites.
They don't "make" wealth; they extract wealth.
They bribe politicians for favorable tax, trade, and INHERITANCE entitlements.

The rich are parasites, not wealth creators

"Fortunes may be acquired by asset-stripping businesses that are then left to collapse.

"They may derive from grossly irresponsible extractive industry, the super-exploitation of sweatshop workers or the gaming of property markets.

"'The term 'entrepreneur,' so beloved of capitalism’s advocates, is inappropriate for these people.

"They are parasites."

Commies don't "make" wealth; they destroy wealth.
They are useless.

 

[georgephillip]

Commies don't "make" wealth; they destroy wealth.
They are useless.

Your "think" like a speculator.
Shareholders are worse than useless.
If the profit motive spurs owners to manage efficiently, absentee ownership works against this natural economic law since it forces corporations to lay off productive employees in order to siphon wealth to idle speculators.

John Robert Beyster - Wikipedia

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Commies don't "make" wealth; they destroy wealth.
They are useless.

Your "think" like a speculator.
Shareholders are worse than useless.
If the profit motive spurs owners to manage efficiently, absentee ownership works against this natural economic law since it forces corporations to lay off productive employees in order to siphon wealth to idle speculators.

John Robert Beyster - Wikipedia

Your "think" like a speculator.

Is that why Commie economies all sucked so badly? They outlawed speculation?

Shareholders are worse than useless.

No, Commies are worse than useless.

If the profit motive spurs owners to manage efficiently,

State ownership removes any incentive to manage efficiently.

absentee ownership works against this natural economic law

Where do you see absentee ownership?

it forces corporations to lay off productive employees

Nothing forces corporations to do that.

in order to siphon wealth to idle speculators.​

If you don't like owners receiving dividends, buy some shares and vote to remove dividends.
If you don't want to become an owner, don't be surprised when the owners tell your lazy ass to fuck off.​

 

[irosie91]

I've read both and that statement about a natural antagonism between the rich and the rest of us is correct with respect to the writings of both men

Class conflict - Wikipedia

"Although Thomas Jefferson (1743–1826) led the United States as president from 1801–1809 and is considered one of the founding fathers, he died with immense amounts of debt.

"Regarding the interaction between social classes, he wrote,

"I am convinced that those societies (as the Indians) which live without government enjoy in their general mass an infinitely greater degree of happiness than those who live under the European governments.

"Among the former, public opinion is in the place of law, & restrains morals as powerfully as laws ever did anywhere.

"Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves & sheep.

"I do not exaggerate."

you need not exaggerate when you depend on meaningless limericks

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Commies don't "make" wealth; they destroy wealth.
They are useless.

Your "think" like a speculator.
Shareholders are worse than useless.
If the profit motive spurs owners to manage efficiently, absentee ownership works against this natural economic law since it forces corporations to lay off productive employees in order to siphon wealth to idle speculators.

John Robert Beyster - Wikipedia

Since you are so radically opposed to capitalism, why the fuck do you live here then ?

 

[georgephillip]

Is there a point you are trying to make?

Education is too important to society to be subject to "free" market forces.

Free College, Cancel Debt

 

[Mac-7]

Is there a point you are trying to make?

Education is too important to society to be subject to "free" market forces.

Free College, Cancel Debt

Higher education is highly subsidized by government. We have poured trillions onto public and private colleges

If you want free college raise the bar for entry and exclude at least 50% of the applicants because they not qualified

but at the same time offer them trade schools so they can still better themselves

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Commies don't "make" wealth; they destroy wealth.
They are useless.

Your "think" like a speculator.
Shareholders are worse than useless.
If the profit motive spurs owners to manage efficiently, absentee ownership works against this natural economic law since it forces corporations to lay off productive employees in order to siphon wealth to idle speculators.

John Robert Beyster - Wikipedia

Since you are so radically opposed to capitalism, why the fuck do you live here then ?

He's too lazy...…..commies wouldn't give him any ration coupons.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Is there a point you are trying to make?

Education is too important to society to be subject to "free" market forces.

Free College, Cancel Debt

Education is too important to society to be subject to "free" market forces.

That must be why the non-government schools do so much better than the public schools here in Chicago.

 

[georgephillip]

That must be why the non-government schools do so much better than the public schools here in Chicago.

Maybe it's the money, Moron?

 

[georgephillip]

It takes a lot of effort to become a millionaire
You libs should strive to be hundredaires

How many millionaires would be created by taxing billionaires into extinction?

Suppose Amazon was an employee-owned company, and Bezo's net worth was $12.1 billion instead of $121 billion.

How many millionare$ would that create at Amazon?

 

[basquebromance]

black folk dont want hugs or kisses from Berine, they want POLICY, POLICY, POLICY

Biden won 55 percent of blacks on Super Tuesday, Bernie just 18

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

It takes a lot of effort to become a millionaire
You libs should strive to be hundredaires

How many millionaires would be created by taxing billionaires into extinction?

Suppose Amazon was an employee-owned company, and Bezo's net worth was $12.1 billion instead of $121 billion.

How many millionare$ would that create at Amazon?

What in the ass?

Why don't those employees ban together, pool their money, get loans, and start their own Amazon-like company that competes with Amazon? We don't need your fucking communism for them to do that. I could do that right now under this current form of government.

Holy shit buckets!!! Communism is always the answer for you commies, isn't it?

fake problem: Robots will take over
solution: Communism

fake problem: muh, global warming
solution: communism

problem: we're stupid
solution: communism

problem: acid reflux
solution: communism

For the love of hyena ass rape. Communism solves nothing, but you asswipes constantly pitch it as the solution to everything.

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[Oddball]

Is there a point you are trying to make?

Education is too important to society to be subject to "free" market forces.

Free College, Cancel Debt

Higher education is highly subsidized by government. We have poured trillions onto public and private colleges

If you want free college raise the bar for entry and exclude at least 50% of the applicants because they not qualified

but at the same time offer them trade schools so they can still better themselves

End gubmint loans and make colleges hold the debt for loans.

 

[Oddball]

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

That must be why the non-government schools do so much better than the public schools here in Chicago.

Maybe it's the money, Moron?

I agree, the Catholic schools spend less money and get much better results. Idiot.

 

[georgephillip]

black folk dont want hugs or kisses from Berine, they want POLICY, POLICY, POLICY

Biden won 55 percent of blacks on Super Tuesday, Bernie just 18

One of Joe's policy prescriptions was to tell working class Democrats to vote Republican if they didn't like NAFTA.

How did that work out for Hillary?

 

[georgephillip]

Why don't those employees ban together, pool their money, get loans, and start their own Amazon-like company that competes with Amazon? We don't need your fucking communism for them to do that. I could do that right now under this current form of government.

Do you believe economic efficiency is highest when profits go to those who create the wealth?

Instead of paying employees as little as possible in order to maximize shareholder (parasite) gains, corporations should distribute employee rewards based on contribution.

How much does Bezos contribute to the daily work load at Amazon?

Contrast that aristocratic model with the one supplied by Robert Beyster who recognized the more you pay employees, the more productive they become:

Our Founder

"In 1997, Forbes published a cover story on Dr. Beyster and the rise of SAIC, focusing on the company’s spread-the-wealth management style.

"Beyster’s stock was worth about $27 million at the time but could have been worth about $2 billion if he had maintained all of it rather than sharing it with employees.

"Instead, the company made millionaires out of hundreds of its workers.

"Beyster had no regrets about his advocacy of employee ownership, once writing that 'External, disinterested individuals who would own part of the company and contribute little do not deserve to benefit by the hard work of the individuals within the company.'"

Bezos could create thousands of Amazon millionaires if he adopted Beyster's business ethics.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Why don't those employees ban together, pool their money, get loans, and start their own Amazon-like company that competes with Amazon? We don't need your fucking communism for them to do that. I could do that right now under this current form of government.

Do you believe economic efficiency is highest when profits go to those who create the wealth?

Instead of paying employees as little as possible in order to maximize shareholder (parasite) gains, corporations should distribute employee rewards based on contribution.

How much does Bezos contribute to the daily work load at Amazon?

Contrast that aristocratic model with the one supplied by Robert Beyster who recognized the more you pay employees, the more productive they become:

Our Founder

"In 1997, Forbes published a cover story on Dr. Beyster and the rise of SAIC, focusing on the company’s spread-the-wealth management style.

"Beyster’s stock was worth about $27 million at the time but could have been worth about $2 billion if he had maintained all of it rather than sharing it with employees.

"Instead, the company made millionaires out of hundreds of its workers.

"Beyster had no regrets about his advocacy of employee ownership, once writing that 'External, disinterested individuals who would own part of the company and contribute little do not deserve to benefit by the hard work of the individuals within the company.'"

Bezos could create thousands of Amazon millionaires if he adopted Beyster's business ethics.

How much does Bezos contribute to the daily work load at Amazon?

Bezos created those jobs.
How many jobs did you create?