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If Republicans hired them and didn't promote a society where they are treated like second class citizens, they wouldn't be in generational poverty. Put plants there not China and we'd be better off. Trump said bring jobs back home. Does he have a place in Bejing?Beyonce made something of herself. I don't call her aunt jaimima. Maybe it's because she's not a greedy arrogant and ignorant RepublicanHe's a dumb uncle tom arrogant prick conservative Republican. He could be purple I'd still hate him and I'm white, successful, straight, a man, make pretty good money, save, love my guns. He's a typical Republican know it all liar like Trump.I still don't get why black don't like Carson.
Uncle Tom -- because he made something of himself? You only like po' black folk who know their place and can be "brought to heel"?
It's like calling a white a honkey. It's not as bad as calling a black the n word but I consider you white Republicans the white equivilent of an uncle tom. If you aren't rich you are dumb and if you are rich you are greedy. Are you rich? Didn't think so.
So successful blacks who refuse to shuck and jive on the Democrat Plantation get the Jemima and Ben labels. Stay faithful to a system that locks black into inter-generational poverty and you're golden
Again, remember when I argue with you I don't completely disagree with anything you say. Ok?You blacks need to do some listening too. You aren't 100% right. Just maybe 80% right. The 20% you guys need to do yourselves. And I'm not knocking middle class blacks. I'm only talking about poor blacks in ghettos. Is that where you live? What black community do you live in?He would have been appalled by your obsession with skin color and insistence upon black staying on the Racist Democrat Plantation.
No he would not have been.
Show proof.
And I'm not denying that white companies purposely don't hire blacks because the hiring managers are racist. It's tough being black. Even though I'm not black I feel for you guys. In a lot of ways I have more empathy for black people than Ben Carson does.
I'm just saying the black community has to do a lot more to clean up the mess, even if white created it. Don't wait for us to do it because we won't. But don't say it's impossible this day and age because it's not. And if they aint fixing up your hood, get out. Maybe with less people looking for jobs the community you left will be better off. You know, less people competing for the same jobs.
And we are seeing white young people moving back to Detroit. Detroit will never work if it's black only. It has to be a place where all people want to live. If whites won't live there why would they open a business there? You feel me?
Don't think arrogant and ignorant Ben Carson is all wrong. He's right about a lot of the things he says about the black community. Even us liberals agree black people need to take on more responsibility for fixing their communities, no matter who's at fault. Get over it.
No, that's not good enough. Whites don't have to move when they want improvement. Ben Carson is not right about the black community. Why in the fuck do you think you can tell me about the community I live in? Don't talk to me about responsibility either white.... We contribute over 1 trillion dollars to this economy, we have made whites rich, we pay taxes and we demand that money gets returned to our communities sufficient enough for us to fix the damages whites created.
You talk about young whites moving back to Detriot. Do you even know why? Or how?
You think that because you agree with me on some things that now you are the fucking expert who can tell me what blacks need to do. No, I am black and you need to shut your white ass up and listen.
I love message boards because we can be brutally honest. I don't mean no disrespect but you do want to hear what we are thinking, right? That way you can dispel any myths. I'm trying to tell you why your community has victim mentality. Yes you've been victimized but instead of telling us how you overcame, you keep telling us why you haven't because of the victimization. That's victim mentality.
In 10 years I want to hear black people say we overcame despite your racism. Instead I think we will be hearing "black people still live in poverty because it's whity's fault.". I'm willing to bet the black community will still be fubar'ed in 10 years.
No I don't need to listen to some white dude after working for 32 years these communitiies. You are full of shit.
For example you talk about young whites going back to Detroit. But like most whites you leave something out.
Detroit is 83 percent African-American, and 38 percent of its population lives below the poverty line. But the older, blacker Detroit starkly contrasts with a whiter, wealthier new Detroit that's been wooed in by tax breaks and living incentives—which gives these evictions a heavily racial subtext.
www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/10/one-fifth-of-detroits-population-could-lose-their-homes/381694/
These same tax breaks and incentives could have been offered to the black community for rebuilding and business investment. This is another example of how it's public policy that is the problem. Single mothers or kids born out of wedlock did not make these policies. nor did fatherless homes.
Now it's time for you whites here to learn another lesson. Blacks don't like Ben Carson. Why? Because he's stupid. Not because he's successful, but because he is stupid. We say he is a sellout. Not because he is successful, but because he throws blacks under the bus for his own financial gain.
But this guys says it better.
For Starters -- You misrepresented every thing this guy said. You said it was because "Carson is stupid". The guy spent the first 5 minutes calling him intelligent and exceptional. This guy who is NOT "a brain surgeon" simply doesn't like Carson's politics. Because he's anti-progressive, ProLife, etc. That's not a RACIAL problem is it? YOU just don't like "post-racial American politics" -- that's HIS and YOUR problem.
The guy with the job to spew into a microphone just calls Carson "confused". That's not a FACT -- it's a political opinion... Got nothing to do with Uncle Tomming around. UNLESS -- you're a race baiter that has a priority to take down any successful Black people for their political opinions.
Got news flash for you. MOST of the pent-up anger and oppression in communities of color occur BECAUSE the inhabitants are politically oppressed. YES !!! But that OPPRESSION comes from local, muni, state government that tries to RUN low income working poor cities just like a wealthy suburban muni. They make NO accomodations for ingenuity, convenience, or customer service for the people they serve.
In Ferguson, you had an average of 3 WARRANTS and 1.5 ARRESTS per YEAR --- per household. Because the ADMINSTRATION of justice stinks. The govt persists in oppressing folks by DEMANDING they stick strictly to the CITY'S schedule and rules. So 1/2 the warrants are BOGUS. The courts don't think the working poor personal time is available so they make you wait an entire day to avoid a warrant for Non-appearance. They toss folks IN JAIL for trying to fines "in installments".. They SUCK at treating their "customers" with respect. And the PO-lice are only a small part of this horrendous community service. BECAUSE you race baiters want to enforce people VOTING ONE WAY.. With no choice and not even LISTENING to the other side.
What you got here is a political feud. NOT a racial feud... And you can TRY to blame it all on race. But being a captive reliable vote for the same team over and over again -- has NOT served you well.
Government is a BIGGER problem for working poor Black America than the parties, or even racial bias..
You last line is wrong. I am black, I am sure I don't need white people to tell me where the problem comes from.. I watched the who ideo, the guy doesn't like Carson or the republican party, the DOJ has shown what the deal was in Ferguson, And the guy in the video is black and he doesn't like Ben Carson,. Race is not going to be an issue when you are the same race.
Look fool, this is not about being captive to jack shit, We see republican policy. It sucks. When was the last time the majority of whites voted democrat? Seems that you guys are a captive and reliable vote for the same team, not us.
Dems gave blacks Public schools, public housing and a government check instead of a father, and you have the fucking nerve to say Republicans treat blacks as second class citizens. Your evil Party drove the black family apart because you need a permanent, government-dependent underclass.If Republicans hired them and didn't promote a society where they are treated like second class citizens, they wouldn't be in generational poverty. Put plants there not China and we'd be better off. Trump said bring jobs back home. Does he have a place in Bejing?Beyonce made something of herself. I don't call her aunt jaimima. Maybe it's because she's not a greedy arrogant and ignorant RepublicanHe's a dumb uncle tom arrogant prick conservative Republican. He could be purple I'd still hate him and I'm white, successful, straight, a man, make pretty good money, save, love my guns. He's a typical Republican know it all liar like Trump.I still don't get why black don't like Carson.
Uncle Tom -- because he made something of himself? You only like po' black folk who know their place and can be "brought to heel"?
It's like calling a white a honkey. It's not as bad as calling a black the n word but I consider you white Republicans the white equivilent of an uncle tom. If you aren't rich you are dumb and if you are rich you are greedy. Are you rich? Didn't think so.
So successful blacks who refuse to shuck and jive on the Democrat Plantation get the Jemima and Ben labels. Stay faithful to a system that locks black into inter-generational poverty and you're golden
Dems gave blacks Public schools, public housing and a government check instead of a father, and you have the fucking nerve to say Republicans treat blacks as second class citizens. Your evil Party drove the black family apart because you need a permanent, government-dependent underclass.If Republicans hired them and didn't promote a society where they are treated like second class citizens, they wouldn't be in generational poverty. Put plants there not China and we'd be better off. Trump said bring jobs back home. Does he have a place in Bejing?Beyonce made something of herself. I don't call her aunt jaimima. Maybe it's because she's not a greedy arrogant and ignorant RepublicanHe's a dumb uncle tom arrogant prick conservative Republican. He could be purple I'd still hate him and I'm white, successful, straight, a man, make pretty good money, save, love my guns. He's a typical Republican know it all liar like Trump.
Uncle Tom -- because he made something of himself? You only like po' black folk who know their place and can be "brought to heel"?
It's like calling a white a honkey. It's not as bad as calling a black the n word but I consider you white Republicans the white equivilent of an uncle tom. If you aren't rich you are dumb and if you are rich you are greedy. Are you rich? Didn't think so.
So successful blacks who refuse to shuck and jive on the Democrat Plantation get the Jemima and Ben labels. Stay faithful to a system that locks black into inter-generational poverty and you're golden
Now it's time for you whites here to learn another lesson. Blacks don't like Ben Carson. Why? Because he's stupid. Not because he's successful, but because he is stupid. We say he is a sellout. Not because he is successful, but because he throws blacks under the bus for his own financial gain.
But this guys says it better.
Now it's time for you whites here to learn another lesson. Blacks don't like Ben Carson. Why? Because he's stupid. Not because he's successful, but because he is stupid. We say he is a sellout. Not because he is successful, but because he throws blacks under the bus for his own financial gain.
But this guys says it better.
Black community leaders like Jeremiah Wright, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton have made themselves rich and powerful by promoting the idea that blacks can not compete because whitey won't let them. If this guy would examine what he says, he would have to wonder why the black community so overwhelmingly votes left? He says the blacks are voting left because of economic policy, absurd!
Now it's time for you whites here to learn another lesson. Blacks don't like Ben Carson. Why? Because he's stupid. Not because he's successful, but because he is stupid. We say he is a sellout. Not because he is successful, but because he throws blacks under the bus for his own financial gain.
But this guys says it better.
Black community leaders like Jeremiah Wright, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton have made themselves rich and powerful by promoting the idea that blacks can not compete because whitey won't let them. If this guy would examine what he says, he would have to wonder why the black community so overwhelmingly votes left? He says the blacks are voting left because of economic policy, absurd!
Blacks don't like Carson because he goes against the misguided black ideology that it is the white man that keeps blacks from succeeding. He is proof that that is bullshit.
Now it's time for you whites here to learn another lesson. Blacks don't like Ben Carson. Why? Because he's stupid. Not because he's successful, but because he is stupid. We say he is a sellout. Not because he is successful, but because he throws blacks under the bus for his own financial gain.
But this guys says it better.
Black community leaders like Jeremiah Wright, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton have made themselves rich and powerful by promoting the idea that blacks can not compete because whitey won't let them. If this guy would examine what he says, he would have to wonder why the black community so overwhelmingly votes left? He says the blacks are voting left because of economic policy, absurd!
Not exactly. But this is what white race baiters tell other whites. I say what I do because It's the reason. You really don't know, you sit on your ass talking racist shit on the internet.
Now it's time for you whites here to learn another lesson. Blacks don't like Ben Carson. Why? Because he's stupid. Not because he's successful, but because he is stupid. We say he is a sellout. Not because he is successful, but because he throws blacks under the bus for his own financial gain.
But this guys says it better.
Black community leaders like Jeremiah Wright, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton have made themselves rich and powerful by promoting the idea that blacks can not compete because whitey won't let them. If this guy would examine what he says, he would have to wonder why the black community so overwhelmingly votes left? He says the blacks are voting left because of economic policy, absurd!
Not exactly. But this is what white race baiters tell other whites. I say what I do because It's the reason. You really don't know, you sit on your ass talking racist shit on the internet.
What did I say that is racist? Someone seems rather hypersensitive.
Blacks don't like Carson because he goes against the misguided black ideology that it is the white man that keeps blacks from succeeding. He is proof that that is bullshit.
One person succeeding doesn't mean anything on a bigger scale of things.
Now it's time for you whites here to learn another lesson. Blacks don't like Ben Carson. Why? Because he's stupid. Not because he's successful, but because he is stupid. We say he is a sellout. Not because he is successful, but because he throws blacks under the bus for his own financial gain.
But this guys says it better.
Black community leaders like Jeremiah Wright, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton have made themselves rich and powerful by promoting the idea that blacks can not compete because whitey won't let them. If this guy would examine what he says, he would have to wonder why the black community so overwhelmingly votes left? He says the blacks are voting left because of economic policy, absurd!
Not exactly. But this is what white race baiters tell other whites. I say what I do because It's the reason. You really don't know, you sit on your ass talking racist shit on the internet.
Consider me, a lib
Now it's time for you whites here to learn another lesson. Blacks don't like Ben Carson. Why? Because he's stupid. Not because he's successful, but because he is stupid. We say he is a sellout. Not because he is successful, but because he throws blacks under the bus for his own financial gain.
But this guys says it better.
Black community leaders like Jeremiah Wright, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton have made themselves rich and powerful by promoting the idea that blacks can not compete because whitey won't let them. If this guy would examine what he says, he would have to wonder why the black community so overwhelmingly votes left? He says the blacks are voting left because of economic policy, absurd!
Not exactly. But this is what white race baiters tell other whites. I say what I do because It's the reason. You really don't know, you sit on your ass talking racist shit on the internet.
Consider me, the liberal white, the closest thing you will get to a impartial 3rd party. I know everything you say is accurate. But I'm telling you if you keep talking the way you do and keep raising bad citizens you are going to prolong equality.
We've come a long way since mlk but in a lot of ways Detroit is no better off than it was back then.
And you brought this on yourselves by not showing up for Hillary.
Consider me, a lib
Now it's time for you whites here to learn another lesson. Blacks don't like Ben Carson. Why? Because he's stupid. Not because he's successful, but because he is stupid. We say he is a sellout. Not because he is successful, but because he throws blacks under the bus for his own financial gain.
But this guys says it better.
Black community leaders like Jeremiah Wright, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton have made themselves rich and powerful by promoting the idea that blacks can not compete because whitey won't let them. If this guy would examine what he says, he would have to wonder why the black community so overwhelmingly votes left? He says the blacks are voting left because of economic policy, absurd!
Not exactly. But this is what white race baiters tell other whites. I say what I do because It's the reason. You really don't know, you sit on your ass talking racist shit on the internet.
Consider me, the liberal white, the closest thing you will get to a impartial 3rd party. I know everything you say is accurate. But I'm telling you if you keep talking the way you do and keep raising bad citizens you are going to prolong equality.
We've come a long way since mlk but in a lot of ways Detroit is no better off than it was back then.
Consider me, a lib
Now it's time for you whites here to learn another lesson. Blacks don't like Ben Carson. Why? Because he's stupid. Not because he's successful, but because he is stupid. We say he is a sellout. Not because he is successful, but because he throws blacks under the bus for his own financial gain.
But this guys says it better.
Black community leaders like Jeremiah Wright, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton have made themselves rich and powerful by promoting the idea that blacks can not compete because whitey won't let them. If this guy would examine what he says, he would have to wonder why the black community so overwhelmingly votes left? He says the blacks are voting left because of economic policy, absurd!
Not exactly. But this is what white race baiters tell other whites. I say what I do because It's the reason. You really don't know, you sit on your ass talking racist shit on the internet.
Consider me, the liberal white, the closest thing you will get to a impartial 3rd party. I know everything you say is accurate. But I'm telling you if you keep talking the way you do and keep raising bad citizens you are going to prolong equality.
We've come a long way since mlk but in a lot of ways Detroit is no better off than it was back then.
Great observation and well said Sealybobo- The heavy water was carried by MLK and his ilk. They did not ask for special treatment or handouts. No, they had faith, that given equal access and opportunity African Americans could achieve. He acknowledged that some advantage would be necessary to begin the process.
In 1961, President John Kennedy issued executive order 10925, which created the Committee on Equal Employment Opportunity and mandated that federally funded projects take "affirmative action" to insure that hiring and employment practices were free of racial bias.
The idea was hijacked by lesser men like Jesse Jackson, Sharpton, and Wright. Men who made them selves wealthy by telling blacks that they couldn't make it, and they were owed something more. How has that message helped African Americans over the last half century?
And you brought this on yourselves by not showing up for Hillary.
Sure thing pal. Because they are EXPECTED to reward a political system that has failed them. It's their duty in fact in your opinion.. Meanwhile, their BIGGEST problem aint who is President. It's who's in charge of the CITY and State. And wracking up those "surburban level" fines and penalties, and not keeping good records of warrants. Isn't hard to make the accommodations that would REDUCE their exposure to the "legal system". You'd make a lot of progress granting waivers to open "Auto Safety Co-Opts" to fix those taillights and turn signal traffic stops. Or by GUARANTEEING an appearance appointment in court to a 3 hour period.
Blacks don't like Carson because he goes against the misguided black ideology that it is the white man that keeps blacks from succeeding. He is proof that that is bullshit.
One person succeeding doesn't mean anything on a bigger scale of things.
The problem with the oppositions argument is there far more highly successful blacks than Carson has been who are democrats.
