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it is not a true insurance program. We have State laws that cover insurance, not administrative laws.Labor doesn't make the law. Legislatures are paid to manufacture legal products with the full faith and credit of public Acts. It is just, lousy management.There is no reason any unemployment taxes could not be general taxes on firms
There are no "unemployment taxes" there is only unemployment insurance REQUIRED by law for employers to have. Unemployment insurance can be provided by the state or private insurance companies. Insurance CLAIMS can be made if one falls under the category of said coverage which is losing a job through no fault of your own.
Why is this so difficult for you to understand?????
There is no reason any unemployment taxes could not be general taxes on firms. It would be a savings over our current regime due to that simplification. We could be lowering our tax burden and improving the efficiency of our economy.
I swear, responding to you is like typing with my computer off. You don't know the difference between insurance and taxes? No, they are not the same. I just explained the entire thing to you, and you act as if you didn't read a word. THERE ARE NO UNEMPLOYMENT TAXES!!! They don't exist outside of your head.
And WTF "legal products" does the legislature make? What products?
It is not a true insurance program. It is a social safety net called, unemployment compensation insurance. It should be used more effectively.it is not a true insurance program. We have State laws that cover insurance, not administrative laws.Labor doesn't make the law. Legislatures are paid to manufacture legal products with the full faith and credit of public Acts. It is just, lousy management.There is no reason any unemployment taxes could not be general taxes on firms
There are no "unemployment taxes" there is only unemployment insurance REQUIRED by law for employers to have. Unemployment insurance can be provided by the state or private insurance companies. Insurance CLAIMS can be made if one falls under the category of said coverage which is losing a job through no fault of your own.
Why is this so difficult for you to understand?????
There is no reason any unemployment taxes could not be general taxes on firms. It would be a savings over our current regime due to that simplification. We could be lowering our tax burden and improving the efficiency of our economy.
I swear, responding to you is like typing with my computer off. You don't know the difference between insurance and taxes? No, they are not the same. I just explained the entire thing to you, and you act as if you didn't read a word. THERE ARE NO UNEMPLOYMENT TAXES!!! They don't exist outside of your head.
And WTF "legal products" does the legislature make? What products?
WTF do you mean by administrative laws? You can't get a federal extension unless you exhaust your state benefits. All states have to carry unemployment insurance.
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They are not. The real poverty rate is 4%, contrary to the BS you read in the MSM.
BY WALTER E. WILLIAMS
RELEASE: WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 26, 2005, AND THEREAFTER
AMMUNITION FOR POVERTY PIMPS
In the wake of Hurricane Katrina's destruction of New Orleans, President Bush gave America's poverty pimps and race hustlers new ammunition. The president said, "As all of us saw on television, there is also some deep, persistent poverty in this region as well. And that poverty has roots in a history of racial discrimination, which cut off generations from the opportunity of America. We have a duty to confront this poverty with bold action."
The president's espousing such a vision not only supplies ammunition to poverty pimps and race hustlers, it focuses attention away from the true connection between race and poverty.
Though I grow weary of pointing it out, let's do it again. Let's examine some numbers readily available from the Census Bureau's 2004 Current Population Survey and ask some questions. There's one segment of the black population that suffers only a 9.9 percent poverty rate, and only 13.7 percent of its under-5-year-olds are poor. There's another segment that suffers a 39.5 percent poverty rate, and 58.1 percent of its under-5-year-olds are poor. Among whites, one segment suffers a 6 percent poverty rate, and only 9.9 percent of its under-5-year-olds are poor. The other segment suffers a 26.4 percent poverty rate, and 52 percent of its under-5-year-olds are poor. What do you think distinguishes the high and low poverty populations among blacks?
Would you buy an explanation that it's because white people practice discrimination against one segment of the black population and not the other or one segment had a history of slavery and not the other? You'd have to be a lunatic to buy such an explanation. The only distinction between both the black and white populations is marriage -- lower poverty in married-couple families.
In 1960, only 28 percent of black females ages 15 to 44 were never married and illegitimacy among blacks was 22 percent. Today, the never-married rate is 56 percent and illegitimacy stands at 70 percent. If today's black family structure were what it was in 1960, the overall black poverty rate would be in or near single digits. The weakening of the black family structure, and its devastating consequences, have nothing to do with the history of slavery or racial discrimination.
Dr. Charles Murray, an American Enterprise Institute scholar, argues in an article titled "Rediscovering the Underclass" in the Institute's On the Issues series (October 2005) that self-destructive behavior has become the hallmark of the underclass. He says that unemployment in the underclass is not caused by the lack of jobs but by the inability to get up every morning and go to work. In 1954, the percentage of black males, age 20 to 24, not looking for work was nine percent. In 1999, it rose to 30 percent, and that was at a time when employers were beating the bushes for employees. Murray adds that "the statistical reality is that people who get into the American job market and stay there seldom remain poor unless they do something self-destructive.
I share Murray's sentiment expressed at the beginning of his article where he says, "Watching the courage of ordinary low-income people as they deal with the aftermath of Katrina and Rita, it is hard to decide which politicians are more contemptible -- Democrats who are rediscovering poverty and blaming it on George W. Bush, or Republicans who are rediscovering poverty and claiming that the government can fix it." Since President Johnson's War on Poverty, controlling for inflation, the nation has spent $9 trillion on about 80 anti-poverty programs. To put that figure in perspective, last year's U.S. GDP was $11 trillion; $9 trillion exceeds the GDP of any nation except the U.S. Hurricanes Katrina and Rita uncovered the result of the War on Poverty -- dependency and self-destructive behavior.
Guess what the president [President George Walker Bush] and politicians from both parties are asking the American people to do? If you said, "Enact programs that will sustain and enhance dependency," go to the head of the class.
Ammunition For Poverty Pimps
You give a poor person Medicaid, you make that person as much less poor as is the value of that healthcare insurance.
No?
Correct me if I am wrong but if my federal taxes "give a person medicad "
I am poorer ..
WTF is this shit?
They are not. The real poverty rate is 4%, contrary to the BS you read in the MSM.
BY WALTER E. WILLIAMS
RELEASE: WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 26, 2005, AND THEREAFTER
AMMUNITION FOR POVERTY PIMPS
In the wake of Hurricane Katrina's destruction of New Orleans, President Bush gave America's poverty pimps and race hustlers new ammunition. The president said, "As all of us saw on television, there is also some deep, persistent poverty in this region as well. And that poverty has roots in a history of racial discrimination, which cut off generations from the opportunity of America. We have a duty to confront this poverty with bold action."
The president's espousing such a vision not only supplies ammunition to poverty pimps and race hustlers, it focuses attention away from the true connection between race and poverty.
Though I grow weary of pointing it out, let's do it again. Let's examine some numbers readily available from the Census Bureau's 2004 Current Population Survey and ask some questions. There's one segment of the black population that suffers only a 9.9 percent poverty rate, and only 13.7 percent of its under-5-year-olds are poor. There's another segment that suffers a 39.5 percent poverty rate, and 58.1 percent of its under-5-year-olds are poor. Among whites, one segment suffers a 6 percent poverty rate, and only 9.9 percent of its under-5-year-olds are poor. The other segment suffers a 26.4 percent poverty rate, and 52 percent of its under-5-year-olds are poor. What do you think distinguishes the high and low poverty populations among blacks?
Would you buy an explanation that it's because white people practice discrimination against one segment of the black population and not the other or one segment had a history of slavery and not the other? You'd have to be a lunatic to buy such an explanation. The only distinction between both the black and white populations is marriage -- lower poverty in married-couple families.
In 1960, only 28 percent of black females ages 15 to 44 were never married and illegitimacy among blacks was 22 percent. Today, the never-married rate is 56 percent and illegitimacy stands at 70 percent. If today's black family structure were what it was in 1960, the overall black poverty rate would be in or near single digits. The weakening of the black family structure, and its devastating consequences, have nothing to do with the history of slavery or racial discrimination.
Dr. Charles Murray, an American Enterprise Institute scholar, argues in an article titled "Rediscovering the Underclass" in the Institute's On the Issues series (October 2005) that self-destructive behavior has become the hallmark of the underclass. He says that unemployment in the underclass is not caused by the lack of jobs but by the inability to get up every morning and go to work. In 1954, the percentage of black males, age 20 to 24, not looking for work was nine percent. In 1999, it rose to 30 percent, and that was at a time when employers were beating the bushes for employees. Murray adds that "the statistical reality is that people who get into the American job market and stay there seldom remain poor unless they do something self-destructive.
I share Murray's sentiment expressed at the beginning of his article where he says, "Watching the courage of ordinary low-income people as they deal with the aftermath of Katrina and Rita, it is hard to decide which politicians are more contemptible -- Democrats who are rediscovering poverty and blaming it on George W. Bush, or Republicans who are rediscovering poverty and claiming that the government can fix it." Since President Johnson's War on Poverty, controlling for inflation, the nation has spent $9 trillion on about 80 anti-poverty programs. To put that figure in perspective, last year's U.S. GDP was $11 trillion; $9 trillion exceeds the GDP of any nation except the U.S. Hurricanes Katrina and Rita uncovered the result of the War on Poverty -- dependency and self-destructive behavior.
Guess what the president [President George Walker Bush] and politicians from both parties are asking the American people to do? If you said, "Enact programs that will sustain and enhance dependency," go to the head of the class.
Ammunition For Poverty Pimps
You give a poor person Medicaid, you make that person as much less poor as is the value of that healthcare insurance.
No?
Correct me if I am wrong but if my federal taxes "give a person medicad "
I am poorer ..
WTF is this shit?
Medicaid makes a poor person less poor because it allows that person access to something he can't otherwise afford.
nothing but fallacy? thanks for making it easy for me.Yes, it does, simply Because, Capital must circulate to produce a positive multiplier effect on our economy. No amount of right wing fantasy, can change that.Labor doesn't make the law. Legislatures are paid to manufacture legal products with the full faith and credit of public Acts. It is just, lousy management.why does it work for firerers?
Firers have to pay a higher unemployment tax.
no labor tax breaks for firing labor
Correct. They pay a higher tax.
There is no reason any unemployment taxes could not be general taxes on firms. It would be a savings over our current regime due to that simplification. We could be lowering our tax burden and improving the efficiency of our economy.
We could be lowering our tax burden and improving the efficiency of our economy.
Paying unemployment benefits to quitters and never workers would end up increasing our tax burden.
The resulting increase in unemployment would decrease GDP and shrink our economy.
Handing you money for never working is a waste of capital with a negative multiplier.
No amount of lazy, liberal weed smoking can change that.
so why wasn't there one under obummer?Why can we afford a War on Drugs? I would have preferred, a Mission to Mars.Cutting taxes is only a solution, the first time. Only the right wing likes to keep repeating historical mistakes and claim they are not really like that, afterward. Government costs; why do You on the Right Wing, believe we have so much Debt?It is not lies, but perception. In case you missed it, your rich guy is in office, asking for tax cuts while being rich.the Bush/Obama tax cuts cut taxes for everyone that pays taxes, not just the rich. Posting lies only makes you look like a fool. so keep it up.
I am quite sure that Trump pays a hell of a lot more to the federal government than you do. His tax plan would cut taxes for the middle class. the poor already pay no taxes.
and the left's solution is always more taxes, more spending, more debt. Doesn't work, never has, never will.
We have so much debt because congress spends more than it collects, both parties are responsible.
what exactly do the poor have? Please explain in details what they have and why they have it.The wealthiest have a capital gains preference to help create Jobs Booms, the poor do not. Why blame the poor for a lack of Jobs Booms.Republicans figured out a long time ago that they could neglect the poor,
and minorities, and still win elections.
That is where they are.
creating good paying jobs for the poor is not neglect, it is respect and caring. Making them slaves to the government is an insult. America voted against slavery several times, the most recent November 2016
that doesn't solve the problem as explained many times in here. why are you so dense?the left is pushing for a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage; the right has nothing but repeal.the right wing is worse. they don't mind "punishing themselves and others with lucre".The right wing just likes to pander about tax cuts, so the rich can get richer faster.face it dude, the dem party needs a permanent dependent underclass that will vote for them to keep the free stuff coming. Full employment and a booming economy is the last thing that dems want. I am talking about todays socialist dems, not the dems of the past like Truman and Kennedy.
The left likes to pander to poor for votes, they don't really care about poor or black, just votes. Power is the hunger that drives the Democrats, without the poor and black, they lose.
Seems you argue with yourself, why does the left hate the poor blacks, I you gave up arguing this point. You are now to they are worse than we are. Interesting how the defense was really nothing but a facade.
I don't know what point you're after here.Cool; how about equal protection of the law regarding the legal concept of employment at will, for unemployment compensation purposes. We could solve simple poverty and improve the efficiency of our economy at the same time.Neither am I.i am not the one whining about taxes.Whine is all yoursquit your day job and go on welfare so you won't have to pay taxes; don't just whine about it.Why should I pay for your shit?
dude, it's been explained to you and yours so many times we have hair growing on the explanation. Taxes!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF, open your eyes and read.Where is the Jobs Boom; nothing but slackers getting a capital gains preference but not creating a Jobs Boom?Cool; how about equal protection of the law regarding the legal concept of employment at will, for unemployment compensation purposes. We could solve simple poverty and improve the efficiency of our economy at the same time.Neither am I.i am not the one whining about taxes.Whine is all yours
Forget about it. You're not going to get unemployment, so get a job instead.
I don't know what country you're from, but obviously you can't get it through that thick head of yours that unemployment insurance is just that--insurance. In this country, insurance kicks in when something happens to you through no fault of your own.
If you don't get into an auto accident, you can't demand the insurance company pay you as if you did.
If you get life insurance and didn't die, you can't collect the insurance as if you did die.
If your house did not catch fire, you can't go to your insurance company and demand payment as if it did.
Do you get it yet, or do you need pictures?
probably explained one thousand times on this board.The democrats are for a higher minimum wage. The right wing only blames the poor for not paying enough taxes.Typical of the right wing; get a tax preference for capital gains to help create Jobs Booms, but "pocket the gain" and "blame the poor".Why doesn't the Republican party just pass a law that every adult American should have a job?
they have many times such as when Clinton and Newt changed welfare to work fare, but then liberals back slide because they are dependent upon buying votes with what is in effect stolen money
The only ones we see blaming the poor is the Democrats, they are who they blame for Trump being President, they blame the poor. The poor is also the reason we only give handouts and not helping hands, the Democrats don't believe in helping, only handouts.
raising the minimum wage causes job loss and inflation. It hurts the poor and middle classes the most.
It doesn't make the person less poor, it makes the person more poor. It also makes the person giving the money more poor. and that is your definition of progress? fk your definition.They are not. The real poverty rate is 4%, contrary to the BS you read in the MSM.
BY WALTER E. WILLIAMS
RELEASE: WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 26, 2005, AND THEREAFTER
AMMUNITION FOR POVERTY PIMPS
In the wake of Hurricane Katrina's destruction of New Orleans, President Bush gave America's poverty pimps and race hustlers new ammunition. The president said, "As all of us saw on television, there is also some deep, persistent poverty in this region as well. And that poverty has roots in a history of racial discrimination, which cut off generations from the opportunity of America. We have a duty to confront this poverty with bold action."
The president's espousing such a vision not only supplies ammunition to poverty pimps and race hustlers, it focuses attention away from the true connection between race and poverty.
Though I grow weary of pointing it out, let's do it again. Let's examine some numbers readily available from the Census Bureau's 2004 Current Population Survey and ask some questions. There's one segment of the black population that suffers only a 9.9 percent poverty rate, and only 13.7 percent of its under-5-year-olds are poor. There's another segment that suffers a 39.5 percent poverty rate, and 58.1 percent of its under-5-year-olds are poor. Among whites, one segment suffers a 6 percent poverty rate, and only 9.9 percent of its under-5-year-olds are poor. The other segment suffers a 26.4 percent poverty rate, and 52 percent of its under-5-year-olds are poor. What do you think distinguishes the high and low poverty populations among blacks?
Would you buy an explanation that it's because white people practice discrimination against one segment of the black population and not the other or one segment had a history of slavery and not the other? You'd have to be a lunatic to buy such an explanation. The only distinction between both the black and white populations is marriage -- lower poverty in married-couple families.
In 1960, only 28 percent of black females ages 15 to 44 were never married and illegitimacy among blacks was 22 percent. Today, the never-married rate is 56 percent and illegitimacy stands at 70 percent. If today's black family structure were what it was in 1960, the overall black poverty rate would be in or near single digits. The weakening of the black family structure, and its devastating consequences, have nothing to do with the history of slavery or racial discrimination.
Dr. Charles Murray, an American Enterprise Institute scholar, argues in an article titled "Rediscovering the Underclass" in the Institute's On the Issues series (October 2005) that self-destructive behavior has become the hallmark of the underclass. He says that unemployment in the underclass is not caused by the lack of jobs but by the inability to get up every morning and go to work. In 1954, the percentage of black males, age 20 to 24, not looking for work was nine percent. In 1999, it rose to 30 percent, and that was at a time when employers were beating the bushes for employees. Murray adds that "the statistical reality is that people who get into the American job market and stay there seldom remain poor unless they do something self-destructive.
I share Murray's sentiment expressed at the beginning of his article where he says, "Watching the courage of ordinary low-income people as they deal with the aftermath of Katrina and Rita, it is hard to decide which politicians are more contemptible -- Democrats who are rediscovering poverty and blaming it on George W. Bush, or Republicans who are rediscovering poverty and claiming that the government can fix it." Since President Johnson's War on Poverty, controlling for inflation, the nation has spent $9 trillion on about 80 anti-poverty programs. To put that figure in perspective, last year's U.S. GDP was $11 trillion; $9 trillion exceeds the GDP of any nation except the U.S. Hurricanes Katrina and Rita uncovered the result of the War on Poverty -- dependency and self-destructive behavior.
Guess what the president [President George Walker Bush] and politicians from both parties are asking the American people to do? If you said, "Enact programs that will sustain and enhance dependency," go to the head of the class.
Ammunition For Poverty Pimps
You give a poor person Medicaid, you make that person as much less poor as is the value of that healthcare insurance.
No?
Correct me if I am wrong but if my federal taxes "give a person medicad "
I am poorer ..
WTF is this shit?
Medicaid makes a poor person less poor because it allows that person access to something he can't otherwise afford.
dears, laissez-fair capitalism gave us the, Great Depression.
You have nothing but fallacy.
dears, laissez-fair capitalism gave us the, Great Depression.
Why do you refuse to answer simple questions I pose?
How long did it last and what was done to end the Depression of 1920?
I know exactly what a right to work state is.
Your statement was an "ALLEGED right to work state". What is an ALLEGED RIGHT TO WORK STATE?
Come one, step up, no guts no glory!
You are still, clueless and Causeless. Why not get a valid argument, instead?
Yes, it does, simply Because, Capital must circulate to produce a positive multiplier effect on our economy. No amount of right wing fantasy, can change that.nothing but fallacy? thanks for making it easy for me.Yes, it does, simply Because, Capital must circulate to produce a positive multiplier effect on our economy. No amount of right wing fantasy, can change that.Labor doesn't make the law. Legislatures are paid to manufacture legal products with the full faith and credit of public Acts. It is just, lousy management.
There is no reason any unemployment taxes could not be general taxes on firms. It would be a savings over our current regime due to that simplification. We could be lowering our tax burden and improving the efficiency of our economy.
We could be lowering our tax burden and improving the efficiency of our economy.
Paying unemployment benefits to quitters and never workers would end up increasing our tax burden.
The resulting increase in unemployment would decrease GDP and shrink our economy.
Handing you money for never working is a waste of capital with a negative multiplier.
No amount of lazy, liberal weed smoking can change that.
I'm glad to point out your errors.
we had to, "bailout the wealthiest".so why wasn't there one under obummer?Why can we afford a War on Drugs? I would have preferred, a Mission to Mars.Cutting taxes is only a solution, the first time. Only the right wing likes to keep repeating historical mistakes and claim they are not really like that, afterward. Government costs; why do You on the Right Wing, believe we have so much Debt?It is not lies, but perception. In case you missed it, your rich guy is in office, asking for tax cuts while being rich.
I am quite sure that Trump pays a hell of a lot more to the federal government than you do. His tax plan would cut taxes for the middle class. the poor already pay no taxes.
and the left's solution is always more taxes, more spending, more debt. Doesn't work, never has, never will.
We have so much debt because congress spends more than it collects, both parties are responsible.
nothing but diversion? even women are worth more, in the non-porn sector.what exactly do the poor have? Please explain in details what they have and why they have it.The wealthiest have a capital gains preference to help create Jobs Booms, the poor do not. Why blame the poor for a lack of Jobs Booms.Republicans figured out a long time ago that they could neglect the poor,
and minorities, and still win elections.
That is where they are.
creating good paying jobs for the poor is not neglect, it is respect and caring. Making them slaves to the government is an insult. America voted against slavery several times, the most recent November 2016
solely on obummer making the rich richer there bubba.we had to, "bailout the wealthiest".so why wasn't there one under obummer?Why can we afford a War on Drugs? I would have preferred, a Mission to Mars.Cutting taxes is only a solution, the first time. Only the right wing likes to keep repeating historical mistakes and claim they are not really like that, afterward. Government costs; why do You on the Right Wing, believe we have so much Debt?I am quite sure that Trump pays a hell of a lot more to the federal government than you do. His tax plan would cut taxes for the middle class. the poor already pay no taxes.
and the left's solution is always more taxes, more spending, more debt. Doesn't work, never has, never will.
We have so much debt because congress spends more than it collects, both parties are responsible.
