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Cowboys Who Like to Ride Camelsdon't be ridiculous
The incompetents who've been running our foreign policy for decades are BigDickulous.
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Cowboys Who Like to Ride Camelsdon't be ridiculous
So you are justifying Israel in their deliberate attack on the Uss LibertyThe USS Liberty was spying on Israel and that provoked the attack.
That is a lie.Israel is the only country in the Mid East that America can trust in the 21st century. T
Honestly Investigated no whitewashed to protect Israelnone of your "information" is worth a hill of beans. I have been privy to some investigations-----minor little
ones----every person INJURED (or their mates or relatives) has a "story"----of course they INVESTIGATED----everything gets INVESTIGATED
Semper PorousHow was the USA supposed to take a "lesson" from an incident occurring on Jan. 1968, (Pueblo) towards one that happened prior on June 1967 (USS Liberty) ???
Both ships were in international waters - in regards to the Pueblo (AFAIK claimed only by the USA) and N-Korea disputing this claim
However everyone knows and admitted that the USS Liberty was in international waters - incl. even Israel.
Were Israel and the USA at war in 1967? did they have an armistice due to a previous war?
The USA and N-Korea are still technically at war since an armistice rather than a peace agreement ended the Korean War in 1953, and the two nations do not have formal diplomatic relations. Thus in April 1969 a North Korean MiG fighter shot down a U.S. Navy intelligence aircraft, killing all 31 men aboard.
And N-Korea NEVER claimed that it was an "accident".
what does this ^^^^ statement mean? ---"...letThat is a lie.
The Israeli assholes can't be trusted any more than any of the other shitheads in the Middle East.
They are not America's friend. They are a welfare state of the US and they will lie, cheat and steal to keep the money flowing.
In 1967 they were afraid that the information the Liberty was collecting would lead to the US putting pressure on Israel to let the defeated Egyptians to save face.
Towelhead Security BlanketSure, sure - The only one bitching and moaning about the Israeli attack onto the USS Liberty, is YOU - whilst being unable to forward any single conclusive source that would support your "bitching and moaning" about it having supposedly been a "mistake".
You were provided with numerous "reliable and respected" sources - going into absolute detail regarding the incident and the resulting attack.
Someone who doesn't read up given "respected" sources. e.g. US NAVAL INSTITUTE - see my post #39, and/or those of numerous other posters, and therefore does NOT reply/discuss accordingly, simply - is a TROLL. Especially those who in majority "participate" via unsubstantiated "one liners".
And one who trolls in favor of Israel - is as a general rule, a Zionist Troll. Especially one who in majority "contributes" via unsubstantiated "one liners".
So tell me, (via sources and quotes) how far where these Israeli torpedo-boats away from the USS Liberty - when they torpedoed her and even opened fire onto her life-rafts??? And keep in mind it was broad daylight, good weather and good visual conditions. (in that reference - take a look at sparky's post - regarding the silhouette description, and forward a comprehensive argument that would proof or at least support your silly claim of having been a "mistake" of identification.
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Instead of posting "ludicrous crap" like: the IDF didn't have naval specified attack weapons - whilst contracting yourself in regards to your claim of Israel having supposedly mistaken the identity of the USS Liberty with an Egyptian ship.... and so on.
right---honestly investigated in a very simplisticHonestly Investigated no whitewashed to protect Israel
the US NAVY investigated
Threatened or ignored you decide but honestly investigated no way in hell. The Warren Commission did a better job of investigating the JFK assignation then the Naval board of Inquiry did investigating the attack on the Libertyright---honestly investigated in a very simplistic
manner----you are suggesting that each person
who submitted his account was THREATENED?--
by----uhm DA ZIONISTS, and thus LIED?
moshe dayan was a chronic "give in" patsy. HeTowelhead Security Blanket
How many Israeli soldiers died because Syria was warned about the coming attack on the Golan Heights? Should we prosecute the Israelis for going against American orders? Even Moshe Dayan advised against capturing this vital geography, afraid of what the Americans would say. But by this time, the Jews would no longer accept the Gentiles' indifference to their survival and were furious at LBJ's interference and treasonous policy of appeasing America's Moslem enemies.
I'm just stating a fact and not justifying the attack.So you are justifying Israel in their deliberate attack on the Uss Liberty
You are not much of an American, just anther traitor
The Warren Commission did a better job of investigating the JFK assignation then the Naval board of Inquiry did investigating the attack on the Liberty
assignation? the marilyn monroe scandal?
Did the CIA kill her?the marilyn monroe scandal?
Syria wasn't warned by the USA about an IDF attack onto the Golan Heights. - so I fail to get your point, and Syria with it's crappy 60 or so Pz IV. didn't stand a chance anyway.Towelhead Security Blanket
How many Israeli soldiers died because Syria was warned about the coming attack on the Golan Heights?
Keep in mind, this topic is about the "deliberate" attack onto the USS Liberty - that some paint to have been a mistake - whilst forwarding no proof, nor any logic argumentation to support that claim.Should we prosecute the Israelis for going against American orders? Even Moshe Dayan advised against capturing this vital geography, afraid of what the Americans would say.
You are aware though - that it was the LBJ administration that started to decisively support Israel - with Nixon then going all out for it.? Whilst France had abandoned it's support towards Israel. The USA, starting of with LBJ had decided in favor of Israel - whilst knowingly making enemies of ALL Muslim countries (they didn't have any Muslim enemies before that) - and thus additionally paving the way for the USSR to gain influence throughout the Middle-East.But by this time, the Jews would no longer accept the Gentiles' indifference to their survival and were furious at LBJ's interference and treasonous policy of appeasing America's Moslem enemies.
fascinating case of historic revisionism ^^^^^Syria wasn't warned by the USA about an IDF attack onto the Golan Heights. - so I fail to get your point, and Syria with it's crappy 60 or so Pz IV. didn't stand a chance anyway.
However for your information, the Golan Heights had already been on the Zionist territorial agenda since the 20'ies!!. And the same goes for the West-bank and Gaza. Since the Zionist Dogma propagates that the "entire" British mandated Palestine of 1947/8 is supposedly Israel.
Keep in mind, this topic is about the "deliberate" attack onto the USS Liberty - that some paint to have been a mistake - whilst forwarding no proof, nor any logic argumentation to support that claim.
You are aware though - that it was the LBJ administration that started to decisively support Israel - with Nixon then going all out for it.? Whilst France had abandoned it's support towards Israel. The USA, starting of with LBJ had decided in favor of Israel - whilst knowingly making enemies of ALL Muslim countries (they didn't have any Muslim enemies before that) - and thus additionally paving the way for the USSR to gain influence throughout the Middle-East.
Since LBJ, the US and Israels hegemonic interests in the region are essentially the same. (only the US dependence on Muslim oil) - has kept the USA at bay, from allowing Israel to "reign" freely.
As the saying in German goes; - gone together, caught together, hanged together.
The only war that the Arabs and Egypt kicked off, since Israels self deceleration of independence, was the Yom Kippur war of 1973. If not for LBJ's change of policy and thus the Nixon administrations (huge weapon supplies) full commitment, the State of Israel IMO - would have gone "extinct" in 1973.
Okay back to topic.
Nothing to do with "lefties" - the USS Liberty survivors had always upheld their claim and their accounts of the incident. It was the release of classified documents in IIRC 2008, that gave rise to uphold the demand for a "proper" investigation.In the 70s & 80s only JBS , Kluxers & The Spotlight Readers bitched & moaned about the USS Liberty , now the Far Left has latched onto it to malign teh Jooooos
So the JBS Types & Kluxers were 50 years ahead of the rest of the pack on this storyNothing to do with "lefties" - the USS Liberty survivors had always upheld their claim and their accounts of the incident. It was the release of classified documents in IIRC 2008, that gave rise to uphold the demand for a "proper" investigation.