Middleman
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Just thought I'd mention that Jesus was born in Bethlehem, not Jerusalem.
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Not all Caucasians are Germans, as not all Semites are Arabs. That is the analogy. there was no concept of an Arab ethnicity back then. In all historical contexts, Jesus is considered a Jew. Are you dense?That's like saying "George Bush is Caucasian, AKA German. " Surely you're not that fucking retarded.Jesus was a semetic person, aka arabic.
No, it's not.
George Bush wasn't born in Germany.
um, did you read what he was replying to?That's like saying "George Bush is Caucasian, AKA German. " Surely you're not that fucking retarded.
No, it's not.
George Bush wasn't born in Germany.
if you did, you should understand his sarcasm
If Jesus was born in Jeruselem then he is Jewish right? But, in every church I have visited both Black and White he is not as the bible describes: woolly hair, brown skin. Instead he is a White man. Why is that?
actually, Jesus wouldnt have had a problem with the government not paying unemployment benefits
nor would he be in favor of gay marriage
and while he did say "judge not" it was followed with "lest ye be judged, by what judgement ye judge ye shall be judged"
not quite the "do not judge" that so many want to make it, now was it?
I've always been amused by how people take that out of context. Especially since he specifically commands those that follow Him to make righteous judgments. I've only ever seen two responses when that is pointed out:
1) They ignore it
2) They argue that it's impossible for us to judge righteously so we can't judge. Which is a ridiculous argument. The Lord does not give us any commandment which cannot be done.
and how many of those admonitions did he say to lobby the government to do it, and how many were for YOU to do it yourself?I've always been amused by how people take that out of context. Especially since he specifically commands those that follow Him to make righteous judgments. I've only ever seen two responses when that is pointed out:
1) They ignore it
2) They argue that it's impossible for us to judge righteously so we can't judge. Which is a ridiculous argument. The Lord does not give us any commandment which cannot be done.
It was never Jesus' intent that *man* judge other men. I'm not talking about when laws against theft and murder are broken... those are clearly society's laws to enforce. But I'm talking moral judgments that *don't* injure anyone else but the person in question. So, yes, he said live righteously... but he never said some old busy body should be deiciding who is and who isn't righteous.
How many admonitions did Jesus give to take care of the poor?
and how many of those admonitions did he say to lobby the government to do it, and how many were for YOU to do it yourself?
Our R.C. church has a Passover Seder for all confirmation candidates and their families.
YESand how many of those admonitions did he say to lobby the government to do it, and how many were for YOU to do it yourself?
do you think he'd have cared *how* it was done? it's not like people doing it themselves ended poverty. but before social security 50% of senior citizens lived below the poverty line. now it's far less and we have far more elderly b/c of greater longevity. so the program was more successful than even the numbers imply
jesus said give unto caesar what is caesar's.
he was a pretty smart guy.
YES
how things were done was extremely important
and the give unto Caesar part only further clarifies that he WASN'T telling the government to do it
because of WHO he told to do itYES
how things were done was extremely important
and the give unto Caesar part only further clarifies that he WASN'T telling the government to do it
well, i might have missed something in my readings (though i don't think so). but certainly, i'm no theologian, just a hobbyist.
what do you think backs up your belief that jesus would have been offended by government helping the poor?
he cares that YOU do itJesus doesn't care how you help the poor...he only cares that you do it.
because of WHO he told to do it
now dont take this as me being personally opposed to the government assisting those in need
just don't claim that what Jesus commanded his people to do should be done by the government
Belonging to a society that helps the poor would not be frowned on by Jesus.he cares that YOU do itJesus doesn't care how you help the poor...he only cares that you do it.
not that you push it off on someone else
Now this was the sin of Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.
In fact, I do believe it is a biblical imperative.
Now this was the sin of Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.
She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me.