Why stop at free college?

[bripat9643]

I don't want government to feed me, I don't want government telling me where to live, I don't want government providing me healthcare, I don't want government wiping me when I'm done using the toilet.

My mother did these things for me when I was a child. I'm grown up now and don't need government to be my new mother.

I hear you. Most of these morons are happy to be led around by the nose and told what to do. They call that freedom. What a laugher.

It is freedom.

Nobody is forcing you to live in a government provided house, but your housing costs would be a lot less if you do

Why do you deny it to others?

No, because it's not "free". Taxpayers are continually being fleeced to pay for stuff that ordinary citizens could do for themselves. You faith in govt is astounding considering their track record of failure and mediocrity.

Of course it is not free.....you pay an additional $750 a month in taxes to live in a government house. You don't live in one, you don't pay

Why would you be opposed to that?

An additional 750 in taxes? What else are you paying? If govt wants to build some houses for people and make them pay and at no additional cost to taxpayers, I have no problem with that.

I can just imagine the kind of houses the government would build. They would sit empty until the government was forced to blow them up.

 

[LoneLaugher]

It must really make a lot of people proud of themselves to have to rely on other people's tax money to get them and their families by in life.

You have childlike understanding of how things work. Good for you.

 

[Rozman]

The conservative war on the poor rolls on.

Don't leave out the war on women OK?....

 

[LoneLaugher]

Some of you thought I was being ludicrous with my idea but I was being serious. Why shouldn't everyone have a PHD? Ain't we all deserving human beings who deserve money, good job, housing, and an education. Shouldn't we get what we are worth and ain't we all worth a PHD? This is what my mommy told me when I was a boy. She said I am a worthy person and I deserve a PHD just like the smart people get and it is the injustice of our society that prevents me from getting one. Social injustice must be fought at every turn. PHDs not debt should be our slogan.

If everyone has a PHD a PHD would mean little

Ridiculous.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Some of you thought I was being ludicrous with my idea but I was being serious. Why shouldn't everyone have a PHD? Ain't we all deserving human beings who deserve money, good job, housing, and an education. Shouldn't we get what we are worth and ain't we all worth a PHD? This is what my mommy told me when I was a boy. She said I am a worthy person and I deserve a PHD just like the smart people get and it is the injustice of our society that prevents me from getting one. Social injustice must be fought at every turn. PHDs not debt should be our slogan.

If everyone has a PHD a PHD would mean little

Ridiculous.

Yes you are, clown

 

[the_human_being]

It must really make a lot of people proud of themselves to have to rely on other people's tax money to get them and their families by in life.

You have childlike understanding of how things work. Good for you.

I'm probably older and far less of a child than you. I'm also an engineer therefore I probably have more of an understanding as to how things work than you do.

 

[CowboyTed]

Should we charge people to go to high schools ?

That's not the question. Let's take some more of your logic. Since High Schools are essential to young people, what are your thoughts on food? That's pretty essential, too. Should food be free as well? It'll certainly keep you alive longer than a diploma would.

Honestly, I don't think a high school diploma is absolutely necessary for life. There are plenty of people who are able to provide for themselves without one. The other thing to consider with "diplomas for everyone" is the fact that once everyone gets one they become absolutely worthless. At that point, it does no one absolutely no good at all.

That sums you up... You don't know how important an educated workforce is to an economy...

It is shown in your treatment of the President... Obama is an intelligent well educated man that is under no question.
You just continue how ignorant you are...

 

[NYcarbineer]

You either want a society where all kids get an opportunity for a basic education or you don't. That's all this amounts to.

 

[LoneLaugher]

It must really make a lot of people proud of themselves to have to rely on other people's tax money to get them and their families by in life.

You have childlike understanding of how things work. Good for you.

I'm probably older and far less of a child than you.

You have a childish view on the world. It doesn't matter how old you are.

 

[rightwinger]

Good god...what a horrible view of our world

If you can't afford a decent standard of living....your problem loser

In the richest country in the world

 

[bripat9643]

Why stop at no help for college students? Why not get rid of public education all together and let all those kids who can't afford to pay for it go without any education?

How soon will that make America better?

Elementary and high school are a necessity to function in our society once you become an adult. College is not. Plenty of people never attended college and do quite fine just working a job or their own business.

Times have change . That's Bernie's argument .

Basically , a high school ed is the equivalent of jr. High head in today's world. Like educational inflation .

That's because schools are more worried about social issues than learning. I'm not sure why we give 12 years of mediocre schooling and follow it up with four more years of mediocre schooling. Why not improve the K -12 model and go from there?

Schools still teach Math, Science, Literature, History....where do you live?

....just really bad science, math, history.

What they call "science" now is really just environmental propaganda. History is also nothing but propaganda. Much of literature is also propaganda. They do a very poor job of teaching math.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

While we are going to give everyone a college degree why not give everyone a PHD? Everyone can be professors. Yes we can! That guy at Cirlcle K who can't count back the right change to you will now be a professor. Isn't America great! Every dumbshit in the world can be a professor. We have already proven any dumbshit can be a professor with Obama so why shouldn't every dumbshit get the same opportunity as the president?

Who the hell is giving away college degrees? You still have to WORK for the degree,attend class,pass tests etc. Our tax dollars pay for all of this instead of constant war and foreign aide...SOME generation has to start the ball rolling the sooner the better the longer we wait the worse its going to be. I can already see in 10 years my oldest being bogged down with student loan debt because WHINERS like you don't think our tax dollars belong being used for something actually HELPFUL.

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And if we had already started using our tax dollars for education instead of war,foreign aid etc he wouldn't have needed to join the military and possibly lose limbs etc to go to college....like I said its gotta start somewhere.

Threads like this are why the country doesn't take traditional republicans seriously.

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Wrong. We are owed a lot actually. Every one deserves Healthcare,Education,A home,A job,A livable wage unfortunately right now only the 1% can afford all of that.

I'm not a 1%. I have a college education, Health insurance, a mortgage free home. I don't have a job, I'm retired from one. I don't receive a wage because I invested during my working years with my eye on my retirement years. The only assistance I had was the G.I. Bill.

I am retired from two, myself. And I collect SSI. I don't owe a dime and if I don't have the money for it, I don't need it. It took me a lot of years and hard work to get here. But I also had breaks that most of the people here didn't get.There was a time that I was not working, or capable of working. I didn't apply for any assistance. I got hurt on a job and was thrown under the bus. I got a very good look at what it is to live on the edge. I don't live like that anymore but for 2 years it was one hell of a wakeup call. Again, I had choices the others didn't have. Education, experience, etc. that many don't have and will never have.

I know what it's like to live below poverty with no end in sight. Well, in my case, there was always a light at the end of the tunnel. But to others, there is no light at the end of a tunnel unless it's an oncoming train. It's not their fault. No College was available to them, no long term jobs to retire from and more. They have to try and live on 650 bucks a month. There is no way in hell they could make it without assistance in things like heat, electrics, housing, food, etc.. On top of that 650 bucks a month, they also get X dollars for each children. It's just not enough. There is a lot of misery that just shouldn't be. We are the greatest country in history and should be doing much better. I am ashamed that we aren't.

When I hear someone carry on about the Welfare Cheats but forget those that really need it get cuts in their benefits each time It angers me to no end. I see these people trying to make it where they are 1/2 month away from homeless and can't get any better. I see the jobs continue to be exported, the living expense go up. Oh, and don't worry about that gas is cheaper now, they can't afford a car. Their idea of a splurge is to order 10 piece chicken McNugget instead of the normal 5 piece. Their idea of a night out is a visit to Taco Bell. The answer to everything is to cut the benefits even more.

Now, keep sending those jobs overseas, allow the housing costs to keep skyrocketing and the food prices to keep spiraling the only solution; cut the beneifts. And then complain crime is rampant and all those people standing on street corners begging from money. Yes, I know, some are there because it's the easy way. But most are there because they don't have any other choices. It's one hell of a blow to an ego to have to resort to such things. I can't fathom it and neither can you. But it's a fact of their lives. Misery causes one to do options not normal to others.

If I had no options, I would make a really lousy Porn Star so I might be one of those with the sign begging for money. Look at my picture and it says it all.

We aren't going to be able to cure it all. But what can we do to release some of the misery. Especially the misery of the children. If you have any ideas, this is the place to present them.

Actually, I think you are confused. I doubt you have SSI. You probably have OASDI if you are retired.

 

[Unkotare]

The conservative war on the poor rolls on.

And another brainless liberal who doesn't know what to say falls back on some fabricated class war nonsense. Too predictable.

 

[bripat9643]

Good god...what a horrible view of our world

If you can't afford a decent standard of living....your problem loser

In the richest country in the world

If that's what you believe, then why should government pay for anyone to go to college? Isn't it "their problem?"

 

[NYcarbineer]

Figure out how many 4 year tuition costs to a state college could have been paid for with the cost of the Iraq war and then you'll see that this is not some impossible task,

if we get our minds right, our priorities straight,

and keep the Republicans out of power.

 

[rightwinger]

How bout this?

Free houses

If you normally pay $1000 a month mortgage, you pay an addititional $750 a month in taxes and live in a house provided by the government. Live in it twenty years and it is yours

Government uses the power of large markets and buys land and prefabricated components in bulk to build low cost houses.

If you don't want a government built house, you can still buy your own

I don't want government to feed me, I don't want government telling me where to live, I don't want government providing me healthcare, I don't want government wiping me when I'm done using the toilet.

My mother did these things for me when I was a child. I'm grown up now and don't need government to be my new mother.

I hear you. Most of these morons are happy to be led around by the nose and told what to do. They call that freedom. What a laugher.

It is freedom.

Nobody is forcing you to live in a government provided house, but your housing costs would be a lot less if you do

Why do you deny it to others?

The government would be forcing you to pay taxes to fund this idiocy, you dumb fucking moron.

That is not what I proposed

If you want to live in a government provided house, you pay $750 a month extra in tax instead of a $1000 a month mortgage

Why would you oppose it?

 

[NYcarbineer]

The conservative war on the poor rolls on.

And another brainless liberal who doesn't know what to say falls back on some fabricated class war nonsense. Too predictable.

How does depriving the poor of educational opportunity make their lives better?

 

[the_human_being]

It must really make a lot of people proud of themselves to have to rely on other people's tax money to get them and their families by in life.

You have childlike understanding of how things work. Good for you.

I'm probably older and far less of a child than you.

You have a childish view on the world. It doesn't matter how old you are.

Can I quote you on that? It means so much and is so very deep and intellectual. I am in total and complete awe.

 

[Unkotare]

You either want a society where all kids get an opportunity for a basic education or you don't. That's all this amounts to.

College is "basic education" now?

 

[rightwinger]

Good god...what a horrible view of our world

If you can't afford a decent standard of living....your problem loser

In the richest country in the world

If that's what you believe, then why should government pay for anyone to go to college? Isn't it "their problem?"

It is something that benefits society....you might even say it helps the General Welfare