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The issue is a done deal
All that is left is for Conservatives to claim that they thought of it first
Yeah, just like global warming is a "done deal." The science is settled.
Gay marriage has never been approved by referendum in any state. In most cases it comes about because of some ruling by an unelected judge.
Matters of civil rights are not up tot the people
so the referendum is meaningless. 99% of the US population can oppose gay marriage but that doesn't make it Constitutional. Civil Rights are guaranteed by Constitutional authority. Period. There is no other argument. I wish people who claim to be Constitutionalists would at least take the time to actually understand how it works.
NO LAW CAN BE MADE THAT CONFLICTS WITH THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA REGARDLESS OF POPULAR SUPPORT OR LACK THEREOF.
Case closed. Next!
Yep, the states can regulate marriage, so long as they don't violate DP or EP in the process.
That doesn't mean what you think it means. No one can deny someone a right with out a compelling reason. Not the federal government. Not the state government. Not the people.Show me the constitutional right to be married, not invented by some lawyer.
No, you show me where the constitution forbids it. We have a right to do anything unless there is a compelling reason for the government to deny it.
See the 10th Amendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
IF the libs/left/Democrats think this is going to be the big ticket draw for the in the coming elections
wailing about the war on women, homosexual marriage....I think they better think again
With the disapprovals of Obama and his party your little games like the war on women I don't think is going to cut it this time around for you
Homosexaul marriage is way down on the list of what the American people thinks is a major issue for them.... the same with GOBULL warming
but hey, you want to run with it because you sure can't stand on Obama's record and approvals
cut your own and your parties throats...PEOPLE are pissed how things have gone under Obama...You want to pretend they're not, then play your silly war on women, war on homosexuals, war war war war war games....I doubt you'll be able to dupe as many people this time around like Obama did...They have seen him unleash this Federal government upon them, from the IRS, to the BLM trying to seize a mans property with 200 armed Federal agents, to a new Government Entitlement laid on their backs when they could least afford it and against their will.... that cost TRILLIONS, was changed and delayed over 40 times and it has his name on it, the OscamCare and it's only signed up A MEASLY 6millon people while that same amount LOST THEIR POLICIES because of him...but go ahead you really have nothing else but to offer people free condoms and birth control pills.
I don't think Obama's running.
That doesn't mean what you think it means. No one can deny someone a right with out a compelling reason. Not the federal government. Not the state government. Not the people.No, you show me where the constitution forbids it. We have a right to do anything unless there is a compelling reason for the government to deny it.
See the 10th Amendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
I personally will never recognize two people of the same sex as a married couple.
And there are people who still don't recognize two people of different races as a married couple.
Your opinions don't matter. The law is what matters.
Equal protection of the laws is
What does that have to with gay marriage?
Think about it a little bit and get back to me when you have a legitimate point to make
Yeah, just like global warming is a "done deal." The science is settled.
Gay marriage has never been approved by referendum in any state. In most cases it comes about because of some ruling by an unelected judge.
Matters of civil rights are not up tot the people
hmmmm . . . yeah they are. So-called "civil rights" are created by legislation. THey are therefore up to the people.
so the referendum is meaningless. 99% of the US population can oppose gay marriage but that doesn't make it Constitutional. Civil Rights are guaranteed by Constitutional authority. Period. There is no other argument. I wish people who claim to be Constitutionalists would at least take the time to actually understand how it works.
NO LAW CAN BE MADE THAT CONFLICTS WITH THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA REGARDLESS OF POPULAR SUPPORT OR LACK THEREOF.
Case closed. Next!
Marriage isn't mentioned in the Constitution, so it isn't a constitutional right. "Gay marriage" only becomes a "Civil Right" if the legislature or the voters approve it.
Matters of civil rights are not up tot the people
hmmmm . . . yeah they are. So-called "civil rights" are created by legislation. THey are therefore up to the people.
so the referendum is meaningless. 99% of the US population can oppose gay marriage but that doesn't make it Constitutional. Civil Rights are guaranteed by Constitutional authority. Period. There is no other argument. I wish people who claim to be Constitutionalists would at least take the time to actually understand how it works.
NO LAW CAN BE MADE THAT CONFLICTS WITH THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA REGARDLESS OF POPULAR SUPPORT OR LACK THEREOF.
Case closed. Next!
Marriage isn't mentioned in the Constitution, so it isn't a constitutional right. "Gay marriage" only becomes a "Civil Right" if the legislature or the voters approve it.
Marriage isn't in the Constitution, but the requirement that government treat all law-abiding, tax-paying citizens equally under the law is....and if the government is handing out marriage certificates to those marrying the opposite gender, they are obligated to hand out marriage certificates to those marrying the same gender.
It's really that simple.
Your argument would not withstand scrutiny. There can be no doubt that that is how many people thought in the Fifties when Blacks were also trying to get their civil and human rights and people resisted that and wanted for Rosa Parks to continue sitting in the back of the bus. In essence, they threw Black people under the bus. We see basically the very same thing happening with GLBT citizens. The fact of the matter is that with people voting in states against Gay marriage and GLBT civil rights, a majority simply cannot be given the green light to vote against a minority when it comes to their civil and human rights. To allow for that is not just wrong but it shows great prejudice and discrimination since they most likely don't understand that Gays and Lesbians are Citizens of this country too who work, pay their taxes, worship in church, have children or adopt, and vote just like everyone else. That is why fair-minded judge after judge in all states across the country where citizens are challenging bans to Gay marriage are ruling that the bans, many of which were enacted through voter approval, are unconstitutional as it does not afford Gay American Citizens Equality with regard to the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. To want to proceed with your penchant to marginalize Gay and Lesbian citizens just to exert an aire of prejudice and superiority over them is not only despicable and unacceptable but it is likewise Deplorable and Outrageous! That is why the GOP continues to lose in elections as the people of today are not buying the draconian excuses of the past Conservatives often use to justify their continued prejudice and discrimination against Gay people.
Matters of civil rights are not up tot the people
hmmmm . . . yeah they are. So-called "civil rights" are created by legislation. THey are therefore up to the people.
so the referendum is meaningless. 99% of the US population can oppose gay marriage but that doesn't make it Constitutional. Civil Rights are guaranteed by Constitutional authority. Period. There is no other argument. I wish people who claim to be Constitutionalists would at least take the time to actually understand how it works.
NO LAW CAN BE MADE THAT CONFLICTS WITH THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA REGARDLESS OF POPULAR SUPPORT OR LACK THEREOF.
Case closed. Next!
Marriage isn't mentioned in the Constitution, so it isn't a constitutional right. "Gay marriage" only becomes a "Civil Right" if the legislature or the voters approve it.
Marriage isn't in the Constitution, but the requirement that government treat all law-abiding, tax-paying citizens equally under the law is....and if the government is handing out marriage certificates to those marrying the opposite gender, they are obligated to hand out marriage certificates to those marrying the same gender.
It's really that simple.
uh, noThat doesn't mean what you think it means. No one can deny someone a right with out a compelling reason. Not the federal government. Not the state government. Not the people.See the 10th Amendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
It's up to the people of the States to decide if a reason is compelling, not the federal courts because the feds have no authority over marriage. No male or female is being discriminated against, they have the same rights as any male or female.
What does that have to with gay marriage?
Think about it a little bit and get back to me when you have a legitimate point to make
No smart-ass, explain yourself. Liberals love to invoke words and phrases without engaging what they actually mean, which is probably why you punted on my very simple question. So again, I ask: what does "equal protection" have to do with gay marriage.
hmmmm . . . yeah they are. So-called "civil rights" are created by legislation. THey are therefore up to the people.
Marriage isn't mentioned in the Constitution, so it isn't a constitutional right. "Gay marriage" only becomes a "Civil Right" if the legislature or the voters approve it.
Marriage isn't in the Constitution, but the requirement that government treat all law-abiding, tax-paying citizens equally under the law is....and if the government is handing out marriage certificates to those marrying the opposite gender, they are obligated to hand out marriage certificates to those marrying the same gender.
It's really that simple.
Marriage laws do treat all tax-paying citizens equally. A law that says a man can't marry another man is no different than a law that says he can't marry his sister. Constitutionally they are identical. Since all men are barred from marrying other men, they are all being treated equally.
The argument that they aren't is total bullshit. It's nothing more than petulant whining of people who want special treatment from the government.
That doesn't mean what you think it means. No one can deny someone a right with out a compelling reason. Not the federal government. Not the state government. Not the people.See the 10th Amendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
It's up to the people of the States to decide if a reason is compelling, not the federal courts because the feds have no authority over marriage. No male or female is being discriminated against, they have the same rights as any male or female.
That doesn't mean what you think it means. No one can deny someone a right with out a compelling reason. Not the federal government. Not the state government. Not the people.See the 10th Amendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
It's up to the people of the States to decide if a reason is compelling, not the federal courts because the feds have no authority over marriage. No male or female is being discriminated against, they have the same rights as any male or female.
That doesn't mean what you think it means. No one can deny someone a right with out a compelling reason. Not the federal government. Not the state government. Not the people.
It's up to the people of the States to decide if a reason is compelling, not the federal courts because the feds have no authority over marriage. No male or female is being discriminated against, they have the same rights as any male or female.
As it was before the 19th Amendment. A few exceptions in the "new" states, but women were women, and could not vote.......
Show me the constitutional right to be married, not invented by some lawyer.
No, you show me where the constitution forbids it. We have a right to do anything unless there is a compelling reason for the government to deny it.
See the 10th Amendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
Yep, the states can regulate marriage, so long as they don't violate DP or EP in the process.
Restricting marriage to unions between one man and one woman does neither of those.
