Why wouldn’t legitimate politicians introduce a Bill to end birthright citizenship?

[Unkotare]

...Are you denying birthright citizenship,...?

Nope.

 

[Unkotare]

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I suppose it started out that way. BL doesn't like birthright citizenship because he's scared of brown people and thinks they'll vote Democrat. Democrats are in favor of birthright citizenship, also because they think the brown people will vote Democrat.

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Gotta wait at least 18 years to find out.

 

[g5000]

Don't need a bill
Need a court case to get to SCOTUS where they can correct the inappropriate way the 14th amendment has been used.

The congressional record shows the writers of the 14th amendment intended for anyone born here to be a citizen.

So you would lose your court case. Bigly.

 

[g5000]

You know, from our country's founding up until around 1925, almost all of our states allowed immigrants to vote in elections. Some even allowed them to vote in federal elections.

The bigots of today are trying to revise history. We were a nation very friendly to immigrants with the exception of the nativist Know Nothings of the mid 19th century.

 

[g5000]

"Anchor babies" is a made up phrase to trigger bigots.

 

[g5000]

Here is the Congressional Record: https://www.14thamendment.us/articles/jacob_howard_on_14th_amendment_1866.gif

The sponsor of the 14th amendment (Jacob Howard) made it crystal clear that birthright citizenship was for everyone, excluding the children of foreign ministers and ambassadors for obvious reasons.


"This amendment which I have offered is simply declaratory of what I regard as the law of the land already, that every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States."

 

[bripat9643]

I know Democrats cringe at the thought of such a Bill but aren’t politicians supposed to protect Americans and not Mexico’s people?
Could a Bill such as this have any negative affect on REAL American’s?

It requires a Constitutional Amendment.

 

[bripat9643]

"Anchor babies" is a made up phrase to trigger bigots.

In other words, it's a fact.

 

[Curried Goats]

You clearly didn't read the link I attached. Congress' power to revoke citizenship is limited. Birthright citizenship isn't even related to the point your trying to make. Revoking it would have no impact on the power of Congress over the naturalization process.

Who gives a shit about the naturalization process? That's separate from birthright citizenship which is what this thread is about.

Yep, that's what we're doing by questioning its value. Sorry.

I'm not sorry you Bingos are flirting with openly racist policies. Have at it. I wish you would.

You got nothing. You're just another partisan douchebag. Seeya.

I have birthright citizenship, Cuck.

 

[g5000]

In other words, it's a fact.

SEEEEE?

 

[bripat9643]

SEEEEE?

Prove it's not a fact.

 

[g5000]

Prove it's not a fact.

It's a made up phrase for bigots like you to parrot.

That's a fact.

 

[bripat9643]

It's a made up phrase for bigots like you to parrot.

That's a fact.

All phrases are made-up, dumbass. It describes an actual phenomenon. There have actually been travel services who flew pregnant women to the United States just so they could have their babies here.

Federal Agents Raid Alleged ‘Maternity Tourism’ Businesses Catering to Chinese

That's a fact. You're a dumbass.

 

[g5000]

All phrases are made-up, dumbass. It describes an actual phenomenon.

Like "Jewish space laser".

 

[bripat9643]

Like "Jewish space laser".

You are the king of non sequiturs.

 

[Unkotare]

In other words, it's a fact.

Wrong. It means nothing.

 

[Unkotare]

.... It describes an actual phenomenon. ...

What "actual phenomenon"?

 

[dblack]

Who gives a shit about the naturalization process?

Clearly, you don't.

All I've asked for is some kind of justification for the policy. I'm a big fan of immigration and immigrants. I'm not a "build the wall" person in any way, shape or form. I'm not even particularly bothered by the fact of birthright citizenship. I'm just not seeing any real justification for it. And no one has yet offered one.

We should streamline the path to citizenship, and immigration in general, so such loopholes are irrelevant.

 

[g5000]

'Anchor babies': the 'ludicrous' immigration myth that treats people as pawns

The idea that people give birth to stay in the US has no basis in reality – but expect to hear it more often as Trump seeks re-election

www.theguardian.com

“People have this notion that you have a child in the United States, now you’re a citizen. It’s what people think because it’s the easy way to explain it. So it’s an easy way to make up a myth,” said David Leopold, an immigration attorney and former president of the American Immigration Lawyers Association.

[snip]

In fact, a US citizen must be 21 years old before they can sponsor their parents for a green card. They also must be able to financially support their parents.

[snip]

Parents who were not inspected and admitted into the US face even more obstacles to changing their immigration status: with limited exceptions, they have to go abroad as part of the legalization process and then often aren’t allowed back into the US for 10 years.

Even if parents do get a green card, they have a five-year holding period before they can finally apply for naturalization.

In the end, the so-called “anchor baby” pathway to citizenship is at least a 26-year endeavor, even for those who entered the US legally.

“It’s ludicrous to think that that’s some sort of a tactic that people use to come here, get citizenship, ’cause it just isn’t true,” said Leopold. “It’s a myth, and it’s a specious talking point.”



As I said. "Anchor baby" is a made up term to trigger bigots.

 

[g5000]

You are the king of non sequiturs.

"Anchor baby" is as mythical as "Jewish space laser".

All caught up now?