Will Killers or Gang Bangers follow gun control laws?

[2aguy]

Apparently today is Stupid Poll Day. Not a manner of whether they will follow gun control laws or they don't --- NRA Sucker.

But if they're guilty of a felony and can't go to Armslist or any of a dozen other sites or a gun show in around 22 states and buy from an unlicensed seller .. it will make it tougher on them to find their preferred implement of destruction.

Of course....that isn't how actual criminals get their guns...but thanks for lying in order to push your agenda....

Criminals get their guns from friends and family who they use as straw buyers.....or the steal them.....or they buy them from other criminal they know who did those things....they do not go to anonymous sources because they are afraid they are police....

Sorry.....you don't know what you are talking about.

 

[2aguy]

Please vote in the poll. Do you think that killers or gang members will follow ANY gun control laws? Do you think that gun control laws would make it more difficult for a criminal to obtain a weapon?

Okay.

Japan. The UK, Germany, Italy, France, Canada. Most of the rest of the EU

They all ban or limit private gun ownership.

They all have VERY LOW CRIME RATES.

They don't have a couple of mass shootings a year. the UK hasn't had a mass shooting since 1996. The last one before that was 1987

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And you are wrong....you have been shown how you are wrong over and over, and you do not change...you are a troll...

Gun crime is going up in those countries except for Japan....and it isn't going up in Japan for two reasons...their culture, and their police state......they put Yakuza caught with guns in jail for decades.....that keeps them from using guns and grenades....

The U.K. averaged one mass shooting every 10 years....even after the gun confiscation...and they almost had two in the last 2 years......so their gun control laws did not stop their mass shootings ......and their gun crime rate keeps going up.....23% over England and Wales and up 42% in Britain all by itself......Germany had a mass shooting in Munich.....

You don't know what you are talking aabout.....Italy, gun crime going up...Canada...gun crime going up....

 

[2aguy]

Please vote in the poll. Do you think that killers or gang members will follow ANY gun control laws? Do you think that gun control laws would make it more difficult for a criminal to obtain a weapon?

Okay.

Japan. The UK, Germany, Italy, France, Canada. Most of the rest of the EU

They all ban or limit private gun ownership.

They all have VERY LOW CRIME RATES.

They don't have a couple of mass shootings a year. the UK hasn't had a mass shooting since 1996. The last one before that was 1987

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There is more gun crime in Britain than ever before...so tell us how their gun control laws have stopped their mass shootings.....they have guns, they could walk into any public space......What stops them from killing lots of people...including kids? Nothing.....

British teen sentenced to life for planned school attack



Despite some of the tightest gun control on the planet, a British man was able to acquire a handgun, extended mags and explosives as part of a plot to attack his former school.

Liam Lyburd, 19, of Newcastle upon Tyne, was sentenced to life imprisonment this week on eight charges of possessing weapons with intent to endanger life.

As noted by the BBC, Lyburd gathered a cache that included a Glock 19, three 33-round magazines, 94 hollow-point bullets, CS gas, five pipe bombs and two other improvised explosive devices despite the country’s long history of civilian arms control.

According to court documents, Lyburd planned to use the weapons in an attack on Newcastle College, from which he had been expelled two years prior for poor attendance. He was arrested last November after two Northumbria Police constables visited him at his home on a tip from an individual who encountered threats and disturbing pictures posted by Lyburd online.

Despite a defense that portrayed the reclusive man as living in a fantasy world, Lyburd was found guilty in July.

The internet-savvy teen obtained the Glock and other items through Evolution Marketplace, a successor to the Silk Road, a long-time “dark web” site in which users could buy and sell everything from illegal narcotics to munitions using Bitcoin cryptocurrency.

In court, Lyburd testified that buying the Glock was so easy it was “like buying a bar of chocolate.”

He obtained funds for his purchases through a complex extortion scheme in which he used online malware to infect computers, which he in turn held for ransom from their owners.

====Teenage boy 'took shotgun to school after being bullied for being fat'


15-year-old boy arrested for taking shotgun and ammunition into school did it because he was being bullied for being too fat, fellow pupils said.

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'Gunman' walks into Liverpool nursery school as children were playing inside

Police have sealed off a children's nursery in Liverpool amid reports a gunman walked into the building while youngsters were inside.

Officers were called to Childs Play Nursery in Wavertree, Merseyside, at around 8am this morning.

The man, who is believed to have been carrying what looked like a firearm, walked into the nursery and approached another man.

He then left with a second man on the back of a motorbike.

 

[ChrisL]

Please vote in the poll. Do you think that killers or gang members will follow ANY gun control laws? Do you think that gun control laws would make it more difficult for a criminal to obtain a weapon?

Okay.

Japan. The UK, Germany, Italy, France, Canada. Most of the rest of the EU

They all ban or limit private gun ownership.

They all have VERY LOW CRIME RATES.

They don't have a couple of mass shootings a year. the UK hasn't had a mass shooting since 1996. The last one before that was 1987

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And you are wrong....you have been shown how you are wrong over and over, and you do not change...you are a troll...

Gun crime is going up in those countries except for Japan....and it isn't going up in Japan for two reasons...their culture, and their police state......they put Yakuza caught with guns in jail for decades.....that keeps them from using guns and grenades....

The U.K. averaged one mass shooting every 10 years....even after the gun confiscation...and they almost had two in the last 2 years......so their gun control laws did not stop their mass shootings ......and their gun crime rate keeps going up.....23% over England and Wales and up 42% in Britain all by itself......Germany had a mass shooting in Munich.....

You don't know what you are talking aabout.....Italy, gun crime going up...Canada...gun crime going up....

He is always wrong. That is why I don't even bother with that troll. His arguments are, for the most part, just utter ridiculousness. He also has a HISTORY here of blaming 12-year-old girls for being raped by 40-year-old men, so this douche's opinions go in the trash heap immediately.

 

[JoeB131]

And you are wrong....you have been shown how you are wrong over and over, and you do not change...you are a troll...

Gun crime is going up in those countries except for Japan...

Blah, blah blah.

We have 11,000 gun homicides a year... England has 48.

I think I could live with 48 of them.

He is always wrong. That is why I don't even bother with that troll. His arguments are, for the most part, just utter ridiculousness. He also has a HISTORY here of blaming 12-year-old girls for being raped by 40-year-old men, so this douche's opinions go in the trash heap immediately.

Try to keep on topic, Crazy Cat Lady, I can only whoop you on one topic at a time.

 

[beagle9]

Please vote in the poll. Do you think that killers or gang members will follow ANY gun control laws? Do you think that gun control laws would make it more difficult for a criminal to obtain a weapon?

Okay.

Japan. The UK, Germany, Italy, France, Canada. Most of the rest of the EU

They all ban or limit private gun ownership.

They all have VERY LOW CRIME RATES.

They don't have a couple of mass shootings a year. the UK hasn't had a mass shooting since 1996. The last one before that was 1987

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. Just goes to show that these places have either fallen to the will of their home grown leftist, elitist, utopian, socialist, communist, Nazi styled heavily propagandized (keep them in their place philosophies), type governments.

This is America, and our philosophies, our style of government, our liberties, freedoms, and cultures are nothing like these places, and will never be. Now we have developed a serious breech in our security, and within our cultures here, but it will be dealt with in our way instead of us adapting to their ways or to their systems. American's aren't the vulnerable like the world see's now through the eyes of it's leftist ideolog's.

In the famous words of Winston Churchill to his people "We Shall Never Surrender".

 

[2aguy]

And you are wrong....you have been shown how you are wrong over and over, and you do not change...you are a troll...

Gun crime is going up in those countries except for Japan...

Blah, blah blah.

We have 11,000 gun homicides a year... England has 48.

I think I could live with 48 of them.

He is always wrong. That is why I don't even bother with that troll. His arguments are, for the most part, just utter ridiculousness. He also has a HISTORY here of blaming 12-year-old girls for being raped by 40-year-old men, so this douche's opinions go in the trash heap immediately.

Try to keep on topic, Crazy Cat Lady, I can only whoop you on one topic at a time.

We have more murders by all weapon types than all murder in Britain, moron....

knives....1,604

blunt objects....472

bare hands....656

The point that you hate to face is that they banned and confiscated guns...and their gun crime rate is spiking........and their violent crime rate is spiking....their gun control laws did not stop their criminals from using guns....it just made sure innocent people can be raped, robbed and murdered more easily and at the discretion of the criminals...

You have seen the gun crime rates....going up and up.......and you ignore it...you are a troll...

 

[ChrisL]

And you are wrong....you have been shown how you are wrong over and over, and you do not change...you are a troll...

Gun crime is going up in those countries except for Japan...

Blah, blah blah.

We have 11,000 gun homicides a year... England has 48.

I think I could live with 48 of them.

He is always wrong. That is why I don't even bother with that troll. His arguments are, for the most part, just utter ridiculousness. He also has a HISTORY here of blaming 12-year-old girls for being raped by 40-year-old men, so this douche's opinions go in the trash heap immediately.

Try to keep on topic, Crazy Cat Lady, I can only whoop you on one topic at a time.

You couldn't "whoop" your way out of a wet paper bag. You are a ridiculous liberal pajama boy and nothing more.

 

[ChrisL]

Please vote in the poll. Do you think that killers or gang members will follow ANY gun control laws? Do you think that gun control laws would make it more difficult for a criminal to obtain a weapon?

Okay.

Japan. The UK, Germany, Italy, France, Canada. Most of the rest of the EU

They all ban or limit private gun ownership.

They all have VERY LOW CRIME RATES.

They don't have a couple of mass shootings a year. the UK hasn't had a mass shooting since 1996. The last one before that was 1987

View attachment 178749

. Just goes to show that these places have either fallen to the will of their home grown leftist, elitist, utopian, socialist, communist, Nazi styled heavily propagandized (keep them in their place philosophies), type governments.

This is America, and our philosophies, our style of government, our liberties, freedoms, and cultures are nothing like these places, and will never be. Now we have developed a serious breech in our security, and within our cultures here, but it will be dealt with in our way instead of us adapting to their ways or to their systems. American's aren't the vulnerable like the world see's now through the eyes of it's leftist ideolog's.

In the famous words of Winston Churchill to his people "We Shall Never Surrender".

I like that "We Shall Never Surrender." It's very true. I feel like fighting them off and protecting my rights MORE than ever.

 

[ChrisL]

I definitely feel like my rights are under attack and in danger. My freedoms are being put in danger by liberal pants poopers.

 

[JoeB131]

Just goes to show that these places have either fallen to the will of their home grown leftist, elitist, utopian, socialist, communist, Nazi styled heavily propagandized (keep them in their place philosophies), type governments.

This is America, and our philosophies, our style of government, our liberties, freedoms, and cultures are nothing like these places, and will never be. Now we have developed a serious breech in our security, and within our cultures here, but it will be dealt with in our way instead of us adapting to their ways or to their systems. American's aren't the vulnerable like the world see's now through the eyes of it's leftist ideolog's.

Okay, here's the problem with that kind of thinking.

When I went to work in the morning at my last job, I have to key card my way through 3 security doors to get to my desk. Why? Because they designed the building in such a way to frustrate a mass shooter or disgruntled employee who'd want to take out management.

We have 2 million people in jail because the easy availability of guns makes crime a real career option for people. Compare that to any of the other countries on my list, where the number of people in prisons is less than 100K. (Japan locks up 69K, Germany 78K). Of course, our prisons are overcrowded and inhumane compared to those other countries.

And now we are talking seriously about putting guns in the classroom because people like 2TinyGuy don't want to fill out extra paperwork when compensating for their tiny dicks by buying gun #24.

Sorry, guy, I don't feel particularly "Free" when I have to genuinely worry some nut is going to shoot me or someone I care about while we are going about our daily business.

 

[JoeB131]

The point that you hate to face is that they banned and confiscated guns...and their gun crime rate is spiking.......

48 isn't a "spike" buddy. It's a reasonable amount.

You have seen the gun crime rates....going up and up.......and you ignore it...you are a troll...

No, guy, I just don't take your NRA Spooge very seriously.

We have a horrid problem in this country, and it's only getting worse. Sweet evil Jesus, this Cruz kid pretty much BROADCAST his intent, and he was still able to get a gun and carry it out. Because we wouldn't want to violate his right to have a gun becuase some slave rapist couldn't write a militia amendment clearly 200 years ago.

 

[beagle9]

Just goes to show that these places have either fallen to the will of their home grown leftist, elitist, utopian, socialist, communist, Nazi styled heavily propagandized (keep them in their place philosophies), type governments.

This is America, and our philosophies, our style of government, our liberties, freedoms, and cultures are nothing like these places, and will never be. Now we have developed a serious breech in our security, and within our cultures here, but it will be dealt with in our way instead of us adapting to their ways or to their systems. American's aren't the vulnerable like the world see's now through the eyes of it's leftist ideolog's.

Okay, here's the problem with that kind of thinking.

When I went to work in the morning at my last job, I have to key card my way through 3 security doors to get to my desk. Why? Because they designed the building in such a way to frustrate a mass shooter or disgruntled employee who'd want to take out management.

We have 2 million people in jail because the easy availability of guns makes crime a real career option for people. Compare that to any of the other countries on my list, where the number of people in prisons is less than 100K. (Japan locks up 69K, Germany 78K). Of course, our prisons are overcrowded and inhumane compared to those other countries.

And now we are talking seriously about putting guns in the classroom because people like 2TinyGuy don't want to fill out extra paperwork when compensating for their tiny dicks by buying gun #24.

Sorry, guy, I don't feel particularly "Free" when I have to genuinely worry some nut is going to shoot me or someone I care about while we are going about our daily business.

. Here's the way I look at your fort Knox security at your job today... Who ultimately caused your security to have to reach the level that it has reached in the situation you describe at your job ??? I know exactly who has caused it, and it wasn't the conservative Christian's or even the non-christians who have enjoyed what the nation had built in God we all do trust in like-minded ways together.

Now there is two ways to look at the security needed at your job these days.

1. Your company deals in a slight bit of soft corruption in order to do it's bidding or business, so just encase someone were to figure their bullcrap out, and come a hunting them, they are hidden behind layers of security in which they have put in place. This constituted a culture change within the workplace, where actually companies had become responsible for the destruction of their own security and freedom by becoming corrupt.

2. Government offices and employers across the nation recognize what has been allowed to take place in the corrupting of cultures through leftist policies, greed on steroids, immoralist philosophy, cultural decay, and other in which has caused the nation to be locked down in regards to it all.

What we have been experiencing is cultural rotting and the corruption of our business leaders who have lost respect for the environment in which they live and operate within, thus causing them to say to themselves "let's just get all we can get out of these dumb aces now, and then hide behind locked doors until they either take each other out or they have the military take the zombies out in which they have since barricaded themselves against.

 

[ChrisL]

Everyone should be free unless and UNTIL they harm someone else. I am not for banning ANYTHING. I am pro gay marriage, I am pro choice, etc. I totally believe in body sovereignty, and the idea that the government has no right to dictate to me anything about my body, and that INCLUDES my choice of weapons for my self defense.

Liberals certainly do not care about TRUE freedom! They are nothing but little government lackeys who run around doing their party's bidding. It's pathetic and it's just DISGUSTING. Disgusting excuses for human beings is what they are. There is nothing more disgusting than a little liberal lackey.

 

[ChrisL]

I am also PRO GUN and ANTI death penalty because I don't trust those greedy little turds who represent us in government to do the right thing.

 

[JoeB131]

Here's the way I look at your fort Knox security at your job today... Who ultimately caused your security to have to reach the level that it has reached in the situation you describe at your job ??? I know exactly who has caused it, and it wasn't the conservative Christian's or even the non-christians who have enjoyed what the nation had built in God we all do trust in like-minded ways together.

Now there is two ways to look at the security needed at your job these days.

1. Your company deals in a slight bit of soft corruption in order to do it's bidding or business, so just encase someone were to figure their bullcrap out, and come a hunting them, they are hidden behind layers of security in which they have put in place. This constituted a culture change within the workplace, where actually companies had become responsible for the destruction of their own security and freedom by becoming corrupt.

Okay, guys, a couple of things.

First, CHristians sold out to Big Business a long time ago.

Secondly, the reason why they have to have that kind of security is that you never know who the gun nuts are going to be. As long as it's that easy to be a gun nut, they have to worry about that sort of thing.

The thing is, a company should really be able to fire someone without having to worry he might come back with a gun and shoot his coworkers or boss.

 

[DrLove]

Apparently today is Stupid Poll Day. Not a manner of whether they will follow gun control laws or they don't --- NRA Sucker.

But if they're guilty of a felony and can't go to Armslist or any of a dozen other sites or a gun show in around 22 states and buy from an unlicensed seller .. it will make it tougher on them to find their preferred implement of destruction.

Of course....that isn't how actual criminals get their guns...but thanks for lying in order to push your agenda....

Criminals get their guns from friends and family who they use as straw buyers.....or the steal them.....or they buy them from other criminal they know who did those things....they do not go to anonymous sources because they are afraid they are police....

Sorry.....you don't know what you are talking about.

I've done endless research - I've posted endless data - For you to claim at this point that a percentage (perhaps it is only 10 or 20%) get their guns from unlicensed dealers and at shows in almost half the states.

Be willfully ignorant though .. your choice

 

[JoeB131]

I am also PRO GUN and ANTI death penalty because I don't trust those greedy little turds who represent us in government to do the right thing.

That seems to be your hangup, Crazy Cat Lady.

I worry a lot more about a nut who goes off the deep end and gets his hands on a military grade weapon.

Liberals certainly do not care about TRUE freedom! They are nothing but little government lackeys who run around doing their party's bidding. It's pathetic and it's just DISGUSTING. Disgusting excuses for human beings is what they are. There is nothing more disgusting than a little liberal lackey.

Again, I'm not feeling "Free" if I have to pay out 30% of my income to maintain a prison/military industrial complex, have to walk past three security doors to get to my desk, and have to check out the nearest exit in every building in case some nut comes in and starts shooting up the place.

 

[ChrisL]

I am also PRO GUN and ANTI death penalty because I don't trust those greedy little turds who represent us in government to do the right thing.

That seems to be your hangup, Crazy Cat Lady.

I worry a lot more about a nut who goes off the deep end and gets his hands on a military grade weapon.

Liberals certainly do not care about TRUE freedom! They are nothing but little government lackeys who run around doing their party's bidding. It's pathetic and it's just DISGUSTING. Disgusting excuses for human beings is what they are. There is nothing more disgusting than a little liberal lackey.

Again, I'm not feeling "Free" if I have to pay out 30% of my income to maintain a prison/military industrial complex, have to walk past three security doors to get to my desk, and have to check out the nearest exit in every building in case some nut comes in and starts shooting up the place.

First of all, I don't own any cats, fucktard. Secondly, you are just a liberal pants pooper, so fuck off. Nobody cares about what you have to say. Garbage in, garbage out is how i see your posts. So don't even waste either of our time with your nonsense. You can fuck off and die for all I care.

 

[ChrisL]

Now that I've swatted that nasty blood sucking little mosquito, I would like to say that our 2nd amendment right is no less important than the right of a Muslim to practice their ideological religion nonsense. That is an ideology that is responsible for creating MANY loons who do many, many bad things and is a MUCH more huge problem worldwide and in the future than your lone wolf crazy gunman. So, if you are going to want to ban things for "safety", then don't let me hear you libs bitch and cry about their "rights" in the future. Safety obviously trumps rights in your sick little freakish minds.