Yes, I'm a Conservative, But SOME Rent Control IS Necesary

[mikegriffith1]

I pretty much agree. Landlords should be allowed a certain percentage of profit above their mortgage payment and maintenance costs. If, for example, a landlord has a mortgage of $20K per month on a small apartment complex with 10 identical units (including property taxes and insurance), and if his maintenance costs are, say, $6K per year, for a total of $246K per year or $20,500 per month/$2.050 per unit per month, he should be able to charge 20% more than his total monthly cost per unit. Thus, if each unit cost him $2,050 per month, he could charge $2,460 monthly rent per unit. At that rate, he would make $4100 per month profit after all expenses. If he owned 20 apartment units, he would make $8200 per month after all expenses.

And this is not including the fact that as a landlord, he gets tax deductions for his maintenance costs.

 

[WinterBorn]

Who could be worse off? They people who are taxed to pay you for doing nothing.

And what do we, the taxpayers, get for paying you a salary for doing nothing? YOu made the claim "we get what we pay for in the first world, too", so answer the question. What do we, the taxpayers, get for paying you?

What merchant in commerce would be worse off?

Every merchant. The people who work would have less money to spend.

I see you are totally unable to answer my question. Why am I not surprised?

And what do we, the taxpayers, get for paying you a salary for doing nothing? YOu made the claim "we get what we pay for in the first world, too", so answer the question. What do we, the taxpayers, get for paying you?

What merchant in Commerce would be worse off if every Customer should have an income?

Henry Ford gave us the answer.

The customers will have less money. They will have it taken from them by force, and receive nothing in return for it. That is socialism.

And what do we, the taxpayers, get for paying you a salary for doing nothing? YOu made the claim "we get what we pay for in the first world, too", so answer the question. What do we, the taxpayers, get for paying you?

fourteen or fifteen dollars an hour equivalent. show your numbers, right winger.

How will any Merchant in Commerce be Worse off if every adult customer has an income?

Anyone with Any understanding of microeconomics want to explain the concept.

Oh, so now you want me to answer your questions. Funny, you don't answer questions but you want others to answer yours.

Not a surprise there. It is your economic model too.

 

[danielpalos]

right wingers are just story tellers; nobody takes them seriously.

Yeah, we're all story tellers, Daniel...but some of us are telling stories that are non fiction. You on the other hand seem to fall in the Juvenile Reader Science Fiction genre!

you have to be sincere to establish confidence in your sincerity. it really is that simple. anyone with Any understanding of morals, knows that.

I am sincere in my knowledge that you want us to pay you and get nothing in return.

that is immoral. our welfare clause is General not limited by Your selfishness.

LMAO!!!! Immoral?? You want to live off of others, while offering nothing in return. And you call me selfish? I provide something for the money I get. I have asked and asked and asked what you provide for the money you want, and you have no answer.

You want to be given money for doing nothing. That money comes from people who work. And you have the audacity to call me selfish? LMAO!!

And as for immoral, it is not immoral at all. If you will not lift a finger to take care of yourself, why should anyone else?

this is what we should be doing:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

 

[danielpalos]

I pretty much agree. Landlords should be allowed a certain percentage of profit above their mortgage payment and maintenance costs. If, for example, a landlord has a mortgage of $20K per month on a small apartment complex with 10 identical units (including property taxes and insurance), and if his maintenance costs are, say, $6K per year, for a total of $246K per year or $20,500 per month/$2.050 per unit per month, he should be able to charge 20% more than his total monthly cost per unit. Thus, if each unit cost him $2,050 per month, he could charge $2,460 monthly rent per unit. At that rate, he would make $4100 per month profit after all expenses. If he owned 20 apartment units, he would make $8200 per month after all expenses.

And this is not including the fact that as a landlord, he gets tax deductions for his maintenance costs.

why no free markets here by solving simple poverty? does Government have to solve All problems for the right wing.

 

[Toro]

Now that danielfailosbot is posting, this thread is truly over.

 

[danielpalos]

What merchant in commerce would be worse off?

Every merchant. The people who work would have less money to spend.

I see you are totally unable to answer my question. Why am I not surprised?

And what do we, the taxpayers, get for paying you a salary for doing nothing? YOu made the claim "we get what we pay for in the first world, too", so answer the question. What do we, the taxpayers, get for paying you?

What merchant in Commerce would be worse off if every Customer should have an income?

Henry Ford gave us the answer.

The customers will have less money. They will have it taken from them by force, and receive nothing in return for it. That is socialism.

And what do we, the taxpayers, get for paying you a salary for doing nothing? YOu made the claim "we get what we pay for in the first world, too", so answer the question. What do we, the taxpayers, get for paying you?

fourteen or fifteen dollars an hour equivalent. show your numbers, right winger.

How will any Merchant in Commerce be Worse off if every adult customer has an income?

Anyone with Any understanding of microeconomics want to explain the concept.

Oh, so now you want me to answer your questions. Funny, you don't answer questions but you want others to answer yours.

Not a surprise there. It is your economic model too.

your morals don't concern me; we have a First Amendment. you need an economic argument and never had one. i got to practice my Tolerance, just for fun. Thanks.

 

[eagle1462010]

What merchant in commerce would be worse off?

Every merchant. The people who work would have less money to spend.

I see you are totally unable to answer my question. Why am I not surprised?

And what do we, the taxpayers, get for paying you a salary for doing nothing? YOu made the claim "we get what we pay for in the first world, too", so answer the question. What do we, the taxpayers, get for paying you?

What merchant in Commerce would be worse off if every Customer should have an income?

Henry Ford gave us the answer.

The customers will have less money. They will have it taken from them by force, and receive nothing in return for it. That is socialism.

And what do we, the taxpayers, get for paying you a salary for doing nothing? YOu made the claim "we get what we pay for in the first world, too", so answer the question. What do we, the taxpayers, get for paying you?

fourteen or fifteen dollars an hour equivalent. show your numbers, right winger.

How will any Merchant in Commerce be Worse off if every adult customer has an income?

Anyone with Any understanding of microeconomics want to explain the concept.

Oh, so now you want me to answer your questions. Funny, you don't answer questions but you want others to answer yours.

Not a surprise there. It is your economic model too.

That is what a troll does................They post nothing but the same comments over and over again.....never answer specific questions........Call you a moron.......wash, rinse, dry.........repeat.

 

[dblack]

Now that danielfailosbot is posting, this thread is truly over.

No, it's not truly over until daniel and specialEd square off.

 

[WinterBorn]

Now that danielfailosbot is posting, this thread is truly over.

Indeed it is.

Well, I am going to go add some waterproofing to my new Clamshell screen tent. Gotta be ready for our December camping trips.

Ain't capitalism great?

 

[danielpalos]

Now that danielfailosbot is posting, this thread is truly over.

if arguments were Gold.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Quit renting and throwing away money. Buy a house. My house note is 485 a month and that includes full insurance coverage on a 3 bedroom, 2 bath brick home on over an acre of land with a dozen huge oak trees and it's on a recently repaved road. Oh yea, and that rate is locked in. I have a little piece of paper that guarantees that rate for the life of the loan. And paying more than the required amount will pay off the house sooner.

How much did you have to pay up front ? What was your credit score ?

How much did you have to pay up front ? What was your credit score ?

Honestly, how can you be your age and not have an understanding of these simple questions? SMH.

 

[danielpalos]

Every merchant. The people who work would have less money to spend.

I see you are totally unable to answer my question. Why am I not surprised?

And what do we, the taxpayers, get for paying you a salary for doing nothing? YOu made the claim "we get what we pay for in the first world, too", so answer the question. What do we, the taxpayers, get for paying you?

What merchant in Commerce would be worse off if every Customer should have an income?

Henry Ford gave us the answer.

The customers will have less money. They will have it taken from them by force, and receive nothing in return for it. That is socialism.

And what do we, the taxpayers, get for paying you a salary for doing nothing? YOu made the claim "we get what we pay for in the first world, too", so answer the question. What do we, the taxpayers, get for paying you?

fourteen or fifteen dollars an hour equivalent. show your numbers, right winger.

How will any Merchant in Commerce be Worse off if every adult customer has an income?

Anyone with Any understanding of microeconomics want to explain the concept.

Oh, so now you want me to answer your questions. Funny, you don't answer questions but you want others to answer yours.

Not a surprise there. It is your economic model too.

That is what a troll does................They post nothing but the same comments over and over again.....never answer specific questions........Call you a moron.......wash, rinse, dry.........repeat.

you need a microeconomic argument and can't come up with one. who's fault is that?

 

[eagle1462010]

What merchant in Commerce would be worse off if every Customer should have an income?

Henry Ford gave us the answer.

The customers will have less money. They will have it taken from them by force, and receive nothing in return for it. That is socialism.

And what do we, the taxpayers, get for paying you a salary for doing nothing? YOu made the claim "we get what we pay for in the first world, too", so answer the question. What do we, the taxpayers, get for paying you?

fourteen or fifteen dollars an hour equivalent. show your numbers, right winger.

How will any Merchant in Commerce be Worse off if every adult customer has an income?

Anyone with Any understanding of microeconomics want to explain the concept.

Oh, so now you want me to answer your questions. Funny, you don't answer questions but you want others to answer yours.

Not a surprise there. It is your economic model too.

That is what a troll does................They post nothing but the same comments over and over again.....never answer specific questions........Call you a moron.......wash, rinse, dry.........repeat.

you need a microeconomic argument and can't come up with one. who's fault is that?

And now we rinse.............LOL

And now I ask the question again.............How do you help the poor by making everything more expensive..............

Now deflection.........drying............LOL ......please continue Daniel.........you are out of your cave now

 

[danielpalos]

The customers will have less money. They will have it taken from them by force, and receive nothing in return for it. That is socialism.

And what do we, the taxpayers, get for paying you a salary for doing nothing? YOu made the claim "we get what we pay for in the first world, too", so answer the question. What do we, the taxpayers, get for paying you?

fourteen or fifteen dollars an hour equivalent. show your numbers, right winger.

How will any Merchant in Commerce be Worse off if every adult customer has an income?

Anyone with Any understanding of microeconomics want to explain the concept.

Oh, so now you want me to answer your questions. Funny, you don't answer questions but you want others to answer yours.

Not a surprise there. It is your economic model too.

That is what a troll does................They post nothing but the same comments over and over again.....never answer specific questions........Call you a moron.......wash, rinse, dry.........repeat.

you need a microeconomic argument and can't come up with one. who's fault is that?

And now we rinse.............LOL

And now I ask the question again.............How do you help the poor by making everything more expensive..............

Now deflection.........drying............LOL ......please continue Daniel.........you are out of your cave now

how many times do i have to tell you? unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed and a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage.

 

[eagle1462010]

fourteen or fifteen dollars an hour equivalent. show your numbers, right winger.

How will any Merchant in Commerce be Worse off if every adult customer has an income?

Anyone with Any understanding of microeconomics want to explain the concept.

Oh, so now you want me to answer your questions. Funny, you don't answer questions but you want others to answer yours.

Not a surprise there. It is your economic model too.

That is what a troll does................They post nothing but the same comments over and over again.....never answer specific questions........Call you a moron.......wash, rinse, dry.........repeat.

you need a microeconomic argument and can't come up with one. who's fault is that?

And now we rinse.............LOL

And now I ask the question again.............How do you help the poor by making everything more expensive..............

Now deflection.........drying............LOL ......please continue Daniel.........you are out of your cave now

how many times do i have to tell you? unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed and a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage.

And the one liners reappear Mr. Troll...........LOLLOL

Now for how do you help the poor by taking more of their money question...........which of course will not be answered...........LOL

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Having to Decide between Alabama, South Carolina and Tennessee.... great planning

Red state paradise.

I'm just shocked they haven't tried to sing the praises of Arkansas or Mississippi; yet. True story. I have pretty much decided that if we make a forage into a new place, we try to stay at Hyatt Hotels. I trust them (barely) to be pretty consistent in terms of cleanliness and service. Anyway....one of the things that I'm looking into was the Air BNB market as an alternative to hotels. Haven't done it yet but am interested. The Air BNB rentals for 3 days in some parts of Tennessee and northern Mississippi were cheaper than the Hyatt in Memphis. I could imagine what the houses looked like.

You mean beautiful antebellum homes with friendly, gracious hosts? Yeah, that would be tough.

Yeah...right

I could name a few that fit that description. But I think that would be a waste of time.

No doubt there are some very charming antebellum plantation homes with well meaning albeit clueless owners who offer a genuine southern experience.

I have no desire to have an old school, white supremacist experience. Those places of pain and misery should be razed.

 

[danielpalos]

Oh, so now you want me to answer your questions. Funny, you don't answer questions but you want others to answer yours.

Not a surprise there. It is your economic model too.

That is what a troll does................They post nothing but the same comments over and over again.....never answer specific questions........Call you a moron.......wash, rinse, dry.........repeat.

you need a microeconomic argument and can't come up with one. who's fault is that?

And now we rinse.............LOL

And now I ask the question again.............How do you help the poor by making everything more expensive..............

Now deflection.........drying............LOL ......please continue Daniel.........you are out of your cave now

how many times do i have to tell you? unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed and a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage.

And the one liners reappear Mr. Troll...........LOLLOL

Now for how do you help the poor by taking more of their money question...........which of course will not be answered...........LOL

only lousy capitalists have to be told how capitalism works.

more people Spending more money is Always a Good thing for Merchants in Commerce.

 

[eagle1462010]

That is what a troll does................They post nothing but the same comments over and over again.....never answer specific questions........Call you a moron.......wash, rinse, dry.........repeat.

you need a microeconomic argument and can't come up with one. who's fault is that?

And now we rinse.............LOL

And now I ask the question again.............How do you help the poor by making everything more expensive..............

Now deflection.........drying............LOL ......please continue Daniel.........you are out of your cave now

how many times do i have to tell you? unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed and a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage.

And the one liners reappear Mr. Troll...........LOLLOL

Now for how do you help the poor by taking more of their money question...........which of course will not be answered...........LOL

only lousy capitalists have to be told how capitalism works.

more people Spending more money is Always a Good thing for Merchants in Commerce.

As Toro already said.............you have basically killed the thread which is your purpose...........

 

[WinterBorn]

Red state paradise.

I'm just shocked they haven't tried to sing the praises of Arkansas or Mississippi; yet. True story. I have pretty much decided that if we make a forage into a new place, we try to stay at Hyatt Hotels. I trust them (barely) to be pretty consistent in terms of cleanliness and service. Anyway....one of the things that I'm looking into was the Air BNB market as an alternative to hotels. Haven't done it yet but am interested. The Air BNB rentals for 3 days in some parts of Tennessee and northern Mississippi were cheaper than the Hyatt in Memphis. I could imagine what the houses looked like.

You mean beautiful antebellum homes with friendly, gracious hosts? Yeah, that would be tough.

Yeah...right

I could name a few that fit that description. But I think that would be a waste of time.

No doubt there are some very charming antebellum plantation homes with well meaning albeit clueless owners who offer a genuine southern experience.

I have no desire to have an old school, white supremacist experience. Those places of pain and misery should be razed.

So the factories of the north will also be razed?

 

[WinterBorn]

That is what a troll does................They post nothing but the same comments over and over again.....never answer specific questions........Call you a moron.......wash, rinse, dry.........repeat.

you need a microeconomic argument and can't come up with one. who's fault is that?

And now we rinse.............LOL

And now I ask the question again.............How do you help the poor by making everything more expensive..............

Now deflection.........drying............LOL ......please continue Daniel.........you are out of your cave now

how many times do i have to tell you? unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed and a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage.

And the one liners reappear Mr. Troll...........LOLLOL

Now for how do you help the poor by taking more of their money question...........which of course will not be answered...........LOL

only lousy capitalists have to be told how capitalism works.

more people Spending more money is Always a Good thing for Merchants in Commerce.

For someone who extolls the virtues of capitalism, you certainly do not want to participate. Capitalism is about people working and earning. It rewards work and punishes those who do not work.

You want to steal the reward from others. That is immoral and selfish.