"You didn't get there on your own"

[Bfgrn]

A lesson in irony​

The Food Stamp Program, administered by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, is proud to be distributing the greatest amount of free meals and food stamps ever.

Meanwhile, the National Park Service, administered by the U.S. Department of the Interior, asks us to "Please Do Not Feed the Animals."

Their stated reason for the policy is because the animals will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to take care of themselves.


This ends today's lesson

This really IS a great lesson on how the conservative mind thinks. This 'lesson' boldly states is the very core of conservatism.

Q: What is conservatism?
A: Conservatism is the domination of society by an aristocracy.

Q: What is wrong with conservatism?
A: Conservatism is incompatible with democracy, prosperity, and civilization in general. It is a destructive system of inequality and prejudice that is founded on deception and has no place in the modern world.

1 The Main Arguments of Conservatism

From the pharaohs of ancient Egypt to the self-regarding thugs of ancient Rome to the glorified warlords of medieval and absolutist Europe, in nearly every urbanized society throughout human history, there have been people who have tried to constitute themselves as an aristocracy. These people and their allies are the conservatives.

The tactics of conservatism vary widely by place and time. But the most central feature of conservatism is deference: a psychologically internalized attitude on the part of the common people that the aristocracy are better people than they are. Modern-day liberals often theorize that conservatives use "social issues" as a way to mask economic objectives, but this is almost backward: the true goal of conservatism is to establish an aristocracy, which is a social and psychological condition of inequality. Economic inequality and regressive taxation, while certainly welcomed by the aristocracy, are best understood as a means to their actual goal, which is simply to be aristocrats. More generally, it is crucial to conservatism that the people must literally love the order that dominates them.

This ends today's lesson​

​

Says the guy who worships Castro and Stalin
​

As a liberal, I don't 'worship' any man. I don't believe in a hierarchy like conservatives do. But while we are talking about Putin, how did your man crush see this man?

Irony...

Bush and Putin: Best of friends

"I looked the man in the eye. I was able to get a sense of his soul" - George W. Bush

Presidents George Bush and Vladimir Putin have met for the first time and appear to have hit it off.

The first handshake looked stiff and awkward, but after well over an hour of talks they came out smiling with Mr Bush inviting the Russian leader to visit his ranch in Texas.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

A lesson in irony​

The Food Stamp Program, administered by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, is proud to be distributing the greatest amount of free meals and food stamps ever.

Meanwhile, the National Park Service, administered by the U.S. Department of the Interior, asks us to "Please Do Not Feed the Animals."

Their stated reason for the policy is because the animals will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to take care of themselves.

This ends today's lesson​

Damn that's good stuff right there,

 

[bigrebnc1775]

This really IS a great lesson on how the conservative mind thinks. This 'lesson' boldly states is the very core of conservatism.

Q: What is conservatism?
A: Conservatism is the domination of society by an aristocracy.

Q: What is wrong with conservatism?
A: Conservatism is incompatible with democracy, prosperity, and civilization in general. It is a destructive system of inequality and prejudice that is founded on deception and has no place in the modern world.

1 The Main Arguments of Conservatism

From the pharaohs of ancient Egypt to the self-regarding thugs of ancient Rome to the glorified warlords of medieval and absolutist Europe, in nearly every urbanized society throughout human history, there have been people who have tried to constitute themselves as an aristocracy. These people and their allies are the conservatives.

The tactics of conservatism vary widely by place and time. But the most central feature of conservatism is deference: a psychologically internalized attitude on the part of the common people that the aristocracy are better people than they are. Modern-day liberals often theorize that conservatives use "social issues" as a way to mask economic objectives, but this is almost backward: the true goal of conservatism is to establish an aristocracy, which is a social and psychological condition of inequality. Economic inequality and regressive taxation, while certainly welcomed by the aristocracy, are best understood as a means to their actual goal, which is simply to be aristocrats. More generally, it is crucial to conservatism that the people must literally love the order that dominates them.

This ends today's lesson​

​

Says the guy who worships Castro and Stalin
​

As a liberal, I don't 'worship' any man. I don't believe in a hierarchy like conservatives do. But while we are talking about Putin, how did your man crush see this man?

Irony...

Bush and Putin: Best of friends

"I looked the man in the eye. I was able to get a sense of his soul" - George W. Bush

Presidents George Bush and Vladimir Putin have met for the first time and appear to have hit it off.

The first handshake looked stiff and awkward, but after well over an hour of talks they came out smiling with Mr Bush inviting the Russian leader to visit his ranch in Texas.

President Barack Obama was caught on camera on Monday assuring outgoing Russian President Dmitry Medvedev that he will have "more flexibility" to deal with contentious issues like missile defense after the U.S. presidential election.

Obama tells Russia's Medvedev more flexibility after election | Reuters

 

[Dick Tuck]

A lesson in irony​

The Food Stamp Program, administered by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, is proud to be distributing the greatest amount of free meals and food stamps ever.

Meanwhile, the National Park Service, administered by the U.S. Department of the Interior, asks us to "Please Do Not Feed the Animals."

Their stated reason for the policy is because the animals will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to take care of themselves.

This ends today's lesson​

So you think the people who work their asses off in minimum wage jobs, and need a helping hand to feed their families are animals? I think you're a poor excuse for a human. Why don't you try feeding your family on $1.38 a meal, and tell me about it.

Your example is bullshit. People need food to survive as do animals. I don't know a single person that needs food stamp assistance who doesn't want to better their lives to the point where they receive a living wage, and no longer have to rely on government assistance. I bet you hate the minimum wage as well.

 

[Bfgrn]

A lesson in irony​

The Food Stamp Program, administered by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, is proud to be distributing the greatest amount of free meals and food stamps ever.

Meanwhile, the National Park Service, administered by the U.S. Department of the Interior, asks us to "Please Do Not Feed the Animals."

Their stated reason for the policy is because the animals will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to take care of themselves.

This ends today's lesson​

Damn that's good stuff right there,

Thank you for enthusiastically supporting the core of conservatism.

And it supports this truth: While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer - The Authoritarians

Let's consider what core beliefs would be absolutely essential for authoritarian despots throughout history to carry out the human atrocities of Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot...

That some group of human beings are less than human, they are merely 'animals', thus, their extermination is justified and moral. They are removing the 'parasites'...

 

[Neotrotsky]

As everyone knows
Fascism and Communism have more in common than not
They are both CPEs and put state above man
They both depend on big gov't

They are both creatures of the Left



Hayek
Fascism defined it the best:

"It is simply collectivism freed from all traces of an individualist tradition which might hamper its realization"​

Peter Drucker had a nice one:

"the complete collapse of the belief in the attainability of freedom and equality through Marxism has forced Russia to travel the same road toward a totalitarian society of un-freedom and inequality which Germany has been following.
Not that communism and fascism are essentially the same. Fascism is the stagereached after communism has proved an illusion, and it has proved as much an illusion in Russia as in pre-Hitler Germany."​

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

As everyone knows
Fascism and Communism have more in common than not
They are both CPEs and put state above man
They both depend on big gov't

They are both creatures of the Left



Hayek
Fascism defined it the best:

"It is simply collectivism freed from all traces of an individualist tradition which might hamper its realization"​

Peter Drucker had a nice one:

"the complete collapse of the belief in the attainability of freedom and equality through Marxism has forced Russia to travel the same road toward a totalitarian society of un-freedom and inequality which Germany has been following.
Not that communism and fascism are essentially the same. Fascism is the stagereached after communism has proved an illusion, and it has proved as much an illusion in Russia as in pre-Hitler Germany."​

I think what you're trying to say is that most Communist states are just fascists states in disguise - you're right.

As to fascism being a creature of the left - sorry, but extreme nationalism has never been a creature of the left. That's more of a right wing thing.

 

[Neotrotsky]

As everyone knows
Fascism and Communism have more in common than not
They are both CPEs and put state above man
They both depend on big gov't

They are both creatures of the Left



Hayek
Fascism defined it the best:

"It is simply collectivism freed from all traces of an individualist tradition which might hamper its realization"​

Peter Drucker had a nice one:

"the complete collapse of the belief in the attainability of freedom and equality through Marxism has forced Russia to travel the same road toward a totalitarian society of un-freedom and inequality which Germany has been following.
Not that communism and fascism are essentially the same. Fascism is the stagereached after communism has proved an illusion, and it has proved as much an illusion in Russia as in pre-Hitler Germany."​

I think what you're trying to say is that most Communist states are just fascists states in disguise - you're right.

As to fascism being a creature of the left - sorry, but extreme nationalism has never been a creature of the left. That's more of a right wing thing.

Nationalism can be used by the right or left

Fascism, as an economic/ social structure is still a creature of the left

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

As everyone knows
Fascism and Communism have more in common than not
They are both CPEs and put state above man
They both depend on big gov't

They are both creatures of the Left



Hayek
Fascism defined it the best:

"It is simply collectivism freed from all traces of an individualist tradition which might hamper its realization"​

Peter Drucker had a nice one:

"the complete collapse of the belief in the attainability of freedom and equality through Marxism has forced Russia to travel the same road toward a totalitarian society of un-freedom and inequality which Germany has been following.
Not that communism and fascism are essentially the same. Fascism is the stagereached after communism has proved an illusion, and it has proved as much an illusion in Russia as in pre-Hitler Germany."​

I think what you're trying to say is that most Communist states are just fascists states in disguise - you're right.

As to fascism being a creature of the left - sorry, but extreme nationalism has never been a creature of the left. That's more of a right wing thing.

Nationalism can be used by the right or left

Not in this country.

Fascism, as an economic/ social structure is still a creature of the left

You've done nothing to substantiate that argument.

 

[Neotrotsky]

Did Fascists believe in small gov't ?

next

 

[Mac1958]

.

I can see how important it is for us to assign fascism to one American ideology or the other, but the whole exercise is folly. There are obviously elements from both whacked out ends of the political spectrum.

Why this is so important, however, is an absolute mystery to me.

.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Did Fascists believe in small gov't ?

next

No. But anarchists do.

 

[Neotrotsky]

Do Fascists believe in individual rights ?



like taking candy from a baby

 

[Bfgrn]

As everyone knows
Fascism and Communism have more in common than not
They are both CPEs and put state above man
They both depend on big gov't

They are both creatures of the Left



Hayek
Fascism defined it the best:

"It is simply collectivism freed from all traces of an individualist tradition which might hamper its realization"​

Peter Drucker had a nice one:

"the complete collapse of the belief in the attainability of freedom and equality through Marxism has forced Russia to travel the same road toward a totalitarian society of un-freedom and inequality which Germany has been following.
Not that communism and fascism are essentially the same. Fascism is the stagereached after communism has proved an illusion, and it has proved as much an illusion in Russia as in pre-Hitler Germany."​

I think what you're trying to say is that most Communist states are just fascists states in disguise - you're right.

As to fascism being a creature of the left - sorry, but extreme nationalism has never been a creature of the left. That's more of a right wing thing.

Nationalism can be used by the right or left

Fascism, as an economic/ social structure is still a creature of the left

Franklin Roosevelt said during World War II that the domination of government by corporate power is "the essence of fascism" and Benito Mussolini -- who had an insider's view of that process -- said the same thing. Essentially, he complained that fascism should not be called fascism. It should be called corporatism because it was the merger of state and corporate power.

That would be YOU...

 

[Bfgrn]

Did Fascists believe in small gov't ?

next

next

 

[Zander]

Did Fascists believe in small gov't ?

next

next

Sorry bub, we aren't that stupid. Here is a chart of the deficit. It clearly shows the effect of Obama's spending binge....

 

[Bfgrn]

Did Fascists believe in small gov't ?

next

next

Sorry bub, we aren't that stupid. Here is a chart of the deficit. It clearly shows the effect of Obama's spending binge....

Here's your problem, there is no Obama spending binge.

Obama spending binge never happened

Government outlays rising at slowest pace since 1950s

Here are the facts, according to the official government statistics:

• In the 2009 fiscal year — the last of George W. Bush’s presidency — federal spending rose by 17.9% from $2.98 trillion to $3.52 trillion. Check the official numbers at the Office of Management and Budget.

• In fiscal 2010 — the first budget under Obama — spending fell 1.8% to $3.46 trillion.

• In fiscal 2011, spending rose 4.3% to $3.60 trillion.

• In fiscal 2012, spending is set to rise 0.7% to $3.63 trillion, according to the Congressional Budget Office’s estimate of the budget that was agreed to last August.

• Finally in fiscal 2013 — the final budget of Obama’s term — spending is scheduled to fall 1.3% to $3.58 trillion. Read the CBO’s latest budget outlook.

Over Obama’s four budget years, federal spending is on track to rise from $3.52 trillion to $3.58 trillion, an annualized increase of just 0.4%.

There has been no huge increase in spending under the current president, despite what you hear.

Why do people think Obama has spent like a drunken sailor? It’s in part because of a fundamental misunderstanding of the federal budget.

What people forget (or never knew) is that the first year of every presidential term starts with a budget approved by the previous administration and Congress. The president only begins to shape the budget in his second year. It takes time to develop a budget and steer it through Congress — especially in these days of congressional gridlock.

The 2009 fiscal year, which Republicans count as part of Obama’s legacy, began four months before Obama moved into the White House. The major spending decisions in the 2009 fiscal year were made by George W. Bush and the previous Congress.

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Barack Obama, Austerity President


Feb 1 2012

Imagine an alternate reality where the first term of President Barack Obama coincided with one of the greatest periods of government austerity in recent memory. Imagine total government spending under his watch had the steepest annual decline in three decades.

Imagine total government employees fell by the fastest rate in more than 60 years.

Imagine that in his last two years, federal spending and federal employment grew by the slowest annual rate since the 1950s.

Now open your eyes. Welcome to Austerity USA. Total government employment -- that's federal, state, and local -- has indeed fallen by the sharpest annual rate since the 1940s. It's now at 2006 levels and declining.

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It's a quiz!

I present to you the first three years in spending for three recent presidents: Barack Obama, George Bush, and Ronald Reagan. To make it a game, I've removed their names and indexed the spending increases to their first month of office. And I've replaced the dates with integers from 1-10 so you can't guess by looking at the years.

Can you guess which president is which?

President #1

President #2

President #3

The hint that solves the puzzle: They're in chronological order. It goes Reagan, Bush, Obama. Going by federal expenditures (and note these are nominal figures), it would seem that if Obama's a socialist, Ronald Reagan is Karl Marx with an ICBM.

 

[buckeye45_73]

This really IS a great lesson on how the conservative mind thinks. This 'lesson' boldly states is the very core of conservatism.

Q: What is conservatism?
A: Conservatism is the domination of society by an aristocracy.

Q: What is wrong with conservatism?
A: Conservatism is incompatible with democracy, prosperity, and civilization in general. It is a destructive system of inequality and prejudice that is founded on deception and has no place in the modern world.

1 The Main Arguments of Conservatism

From the pharaohs of ancient Egypt to the self-regarding thugs of ancient Rome to the glorified warlords of medieval and absolutist Europe, in nearly every urbanized society throughout human history, there have been people who have tried to constitute themselves as an aristocracy. These people and their allies are the conservatives.

The tactics of conservatism vary widely by place and time. But the most central feature of conservatism is deference: a psychologically internalized attitude on the part of the common people that the aristocracy are better people than they are. Modern-day liberals often theorize that conservatives use "social issues" as a way to mask economic objectives, but this is almost backward: the true goal of conservatism is to establish an aristocracy, which is a social and psychological condition of inequality. Economic inequality and regressive taxation, while certainly welcomed by the aristocracy, are best understood as a means to their actual goal, which is simply to be aristocrats. More generally, it is crucial to conservatism that the people must literally love the order that dominates them.

This ends today's lesson​

​

Says the guy who worships Castro and Stalin​

As a liberal, I don't 'worship' any man. I don't believe in a hierarchy like conservatives do. But while we are talking about Putin, how did your man crush see this man?

Irony...

Bush and Putin: Best of friends

"I looked the man in the eye. I was able to get a sense of his soul" - George W. Bush

Presidents George Bush and Vladimir Putin have met for the first time and appear to have hit it off.

The first handshake looked stiff and awkward, but after well over an hour of talks they came out smiling with Mr Bush inviting the Russian leader to visit his ranch in Texas.

He liked him.....again I'm not a sycophant.....or a robot, like you lefties. And lefties dont believe in a heirarchy? WHAT? When did THAT happen....oh let me guess you're a socialist utopian?

 

[CMike]

Obama is such an arrogant fucker.

 

[Full-Auto]

This really IS a great lesson on how the conservative mind thinks. This 'lesson' boldly states is the very core of conservatism.

Q: What is conservatism?
A: Conservatism is the domination of society by an aristocracy.

Q: What is wrong with conservatism?
A: Conservatism is incompatible with democracy, prosperity, and civilization in general. It is a destructive system of inequality and prejudice that is founded on deception and has no place in the modern world.

1 The Main Arguments of Conservatism

From the pharaohs of ancient Egypt to the self-regarding thugs of ancient Rome to the glorified warlords of medieval and absolutist Europe, in nearly every urbanized society throughout human history, there have been people who have tried to constitute themselves as an aristocracy. These people and their allies are the conservatives.

The tactics of conservatism vary widely by place and time. But the most central feature of conservatism is deference: a psychologically internalized attitude on the part of the common people that the aristocracy are better people than they are. Modern-day liberals often theorize that conservatives use "social issues" as a way to mask economic objectives, but this is almost backward: the true goal of conservatism is to establish an aristocracy, which is a social and psychological condition of inequality. Economic inequality and regressive taxation, while certainly welcomed by the aristocracy, are best understood as a means to their actual goal, which is simply to be aristocrats. More generally, it is crucial to conservatism that the people must literally love the order that dominates them.

This ends today's lesson​

​

Says the guy who worships Castro and Stalin
​

As a liberal, I don't 'worship' any man. I don't believe in a hierarchy like conservatives do. But while we are talking about Putin, how did your man crush see this man?

Irony...

Bush and Putin: Best of friends

"I looked the man in the eye. I was able to get a sense of his soul" - George W. Bush

Presidents George Bush and Vladimir Putin have met for the first time and appear to have hit it off.

The first handshake looked stiff and awkward, but after well over an hour of talks they came out smiling with Mr Bush inviting the Russian leader to visit his ranch in Texas.

Liberals are supposed to believe in liberty.
Not liberally taking from others......

Great rant if you were not from the big government party.

Yes Irony so thick you can cut it.