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I did quote you twicepeople believing they should force their way on others. stay in your world.seems you are forcing an agenda here. stay with what you like and we'll stay with what we like. I promise, I won't make any attempt to tell anyone what to eat.Where did I ever tell anyone what to eat?blues, good for you. I'm good with who I am. I love my meat, I will do what I want. welcome back to america.It's easy to do correctlyyou don't need to eat any meat at all.We eat far too much meat in this nation....I'm not complaining but it's the truth. There are plenty of protein sources that can sustain us with less expense and much less strain to our physical being than meat causes.
Years ago I knew a vegan who suffered from protein deficiency and he refused to take his doctor's advice to have one or two buffalo burgers a month...." That's all you need " he said....but because my friend was a religious Vegan he held out. Eventually he developed a horrible open sore on his nose that made it impossible for him to do his job as a department administrator who had to face dozens of people every day....so after checking with his Maharishi or whoever the hell his spiritual counselor was he decided to do two buffalo burgers a month..... Voila! His sore healed up is a matter of a few weeks and to this day this is all the meat he consumes..
JO
I have been following a fellow named Marcus Rothkranz who is a vegan and a prolific health writer
he is 50 and looks like he's 27. He does say however that should you choose to be a vegan you must do it correctly. That I believe.
JO
I adopted a whole food vegan diet 3 months ago and feel so good I don't think I'll ever go back to eating meat.
I will correct false assumptions when they arise but I don't care what anyone else does
No it's you who think I am forcing an agenda.
All I ever said was meat is not necessary. I will correct false assumptions though.
WHat are you so defensive about?
Where did I ever tell anyone what to eat?
Please quote the exact words.
But you won't because you can't.
So stop fabricating arguments and attributing them to me
All I ever said is meat is not a neccessity in a healthy diet.
So is a ribeye and t-bonesoy, nuts & beans are good sources of protein.
So can the cows, and there you go again, go promote your vegan shit to vegan shits.Most of the crops grown in the world are fed to livestock so we could easily feed everyone without meat.
But why are you making up arguments and attributing them to me?
I never said anything about the entire population going vegan even though it is entirely possible
Haha... okay so you are counting grass as edible vegetation for humans?? Hilarious.
There is a whole world outside of America. Here, yes, we unfortunately feed livestock foods they were never meant to eat just to fatten them up quickly. That is franken-food. And that is not related to what I am saying.
In order to be vegan, you MUST eat vegetation and grains that are grown far-far-far away from your immediate environment. All of those veggies/fruits/grains consume mass energy to both produce and ship. HUUGE swaths of land to grow. Vegetation is NOT the answer for the future.
Insects?.... that is a whole other possibility.
No but grain is.
And a cow has to be fed 6kg of vegetable matter to make 1 kg of protein that is eaten as meat.
The grain we grow in this country to feed livestock could feed 800 million people.
It would take less land not more to feed people a vegan diet.
We don’t need to add fluoride to water either, unless you want to taint the waterThen the zinc was added to the oatmeal like D is added to milkB12 calcium iron zinc omega 3s and others, these are not found in vegeesMeat is a necessity or doctors would not prescribe things just for dumb vegitarianspeople believing they should force their way on others. stay in your world.seems you are forcing an agenda here. stay with what you like and we'll stay with what we like. I promise, I won't make any attempt to tell anyone what to eat.Where did I ever tell anyone what to eat?blues, good for you. I'm good with who I am. I love my meat, I will do what I want. welcome back to america.It's easy to do correctlyyou don't need to eat any meat at all.We eat far too much meat in this nation....I'm not complaining but it's the truth. There are plenty of protein sources that can sustain us with less expense and much less strain to our physical being than meat causes.
Years ago I knew a vegan who suffered from protein deficiency and he refused to take his doctor's advice to have one or two buffalo burgers a month...." That's all you need " he said....but because my friend was a religious Vegan he held out. Eventually he developed a horrible open sore on his nose that made it impossible for him to do his job as a department administrator who had to face dozens of people every day....so after checking with his Maharishi or whoever the hell his spiritual counselor was he decided to do two buffalo burgers a month..... Voila! His sore healed up is a matter of a few weeks and to this day this is all the meat he consumes..
JO
I have been following a fellow named Marcus Rothkranz who is a vegan and a prolific health writer
he is 50 and looks like he's 27. He does say however that should you choose to be a vegan you must do it correctly. That I believe.
JO
I adopted a whole food vegan diet 3 months ago and feel so good I don't think I'll ever go back to eating meat.
I will correct false assumptions when they arise but I don't care what anyone else does
No it's you who think I am forcing an agenda.
All I ever said was meat is not necessary. I will correct false assumptions though.
WHat are you so defensive about?
Where did I ever tell anyone what to eat?
Please quote the exact words.
But you won't because you can't.
So stop fabricating arguments and attributing them to me
All I ever said is meat is not a neccessity in a healthy diet.
What do Doctors prescribe just for vegetarians? Because my Doctor took me off off my blood pressure meds and didn't precribe anything else at my annual physical last month
Vegetarian Diet - What You Need to Know
Care guide for Vegetarian Diet. Includes: possible causes, signs and symptoms, standard treatment options and means of care and support.www.drugs.com
B12 isn't made by livestock either.
In fact B12 is the product of bacteria in the soil and livestock are given B12 supplements along with their antibiotics and steroids now.
And in fact there are many plants that contain zinc. A cup of oatmeal contains 21% of the daily recommended value for zinc
Spinach is loaded with iron
Chia seeds flax brussel sprouts and other plants contain omega 3 fatty acids
Do you not realize that everything you think you get eating meat is contained in all the plant matter that the animal eats?
In fact a cow has to be fed 6 kg of plant protein to make 1 kg of dietary protein.
And as I said I haven't been prescribed anything by my doctor because I have given up animal products but rather was taken off my blood pressure medication.
23 High Zinc Foods for Vegans and Vegetarians
Vegan and vegetarian sources of zinc include wheat germ, fortified cereals, beans and legumes, seeds, nuts, oatmeal, tofu, spinach, mushrooms, asparagus, broccoli, and zucchini. The daily value for zinc is 11mg per day.www.myfooddata.com
We don't need to add vitamin d to milk all we have to do is get outside in the sun.
And is zinc added to wild rice, quinoa, squash and pumpkin seeds, mushrooms, black beans, etc etc etc?
Where do you think the iron , zinc or any other mineral you get from meat comes from?
It comes from the plants fed to the animals
Exactly! I’m disappointed with blueDo you know what his diet was?It's the risk of dying from HEART DISEASE you dolt
I believe genes are the most important.
Jim Fixx is widely accepted as the creator of the fitness movement. You know eating right, running all that stuff.
How'd it work out for him?
I don't
I don't really care. I just recall that he was a fitness guru and died young with a heart attack.
You're not going to start eating raw beef and I'm not going to quit.
You may have bad genes and need to watch your diet. I know I have extraordinary genes and eat what I want. Works for me might work for you too.
They're good-faith Catholics in a court of law. They eat fish every Friday and pout with their lower lips because it's not real meat. Their kids are allergic to peanut butter. They stole our guns and poached our game. It's for their kids, not ours, and they're letting their kids loose loose on our property and pressing child molestation charges against us. What else are we supposed to plead to in their parochial chancery court system?Omnis don't care what other people eat. Why do Vegans?
Ding, ding, dingI won't give up my weekly 16 oz ribeye. The problem with the hardcore vegan loons is they believe they have the right to force that shit on everyone.We eat far too much meat in this nation....I'm not complaining but it's the truth. There are plenty of protein sources that can sustain us with less expense and much less strain to our physical being than meat causes.
Years ago I knew a vegan who suffered from protein deficiency and he refused to take his doctor's advice to have one or two buffalo burgers a month...." That's all you need " he said....but because my friend was a religious Vegan he held out. Eventually he developed a horrible open sore on his nose that made it impossible for him to do his job as a department administrator who had to face dozens of people every day....so after checking with his Maharishi or whoever the hell his spiritual counselor was he decided to do two buffalo burgers a month..... Voila! His sore healed up is a matter of a few weeks and to this day this is all the meat he consumes..
JO
I liken vegetarians to someone who has quit smoking or drinking. That's all they can talk about.
Dude, stop with your leftist conversionYou do know that chemical analysis of bones will allow anthropologists to determine the diet of the person don't you?Look dopey, prehistoric man didnt leave journals you ignorant lettuce head.But you won't answer the question I just asked you.Prehistoric man began eating meat when he climbed down out of the tree with a spear and ate the carnivore that had previously eaten humansMeat advanced human evolution, nothing you can do about this eitherThe sun only produces D at a certain point in the sky, and cold climates never do get out thereThen the zinc was added to the oatmeal like D is added to milkB12 calcium iron zinc omega 3s and others, these are not found in vegeesMeat is a necessity or doctors would not prescribe things just for dumb vegitarianspeople believing they should force their way on others. stay in your world.seems you are forcing an agenda here. stay with what you like and we'll stay with what we like. I promise, I won't make any attempt to tell anyone what to eat.Where did I ever tell anyone what to eat?blues, good for you. I'm good with who I am. I love my meat, I will do what I want. welcome back to america.It's easy to do correctlyyou don't need to eat any meat at all.We eat far too much meat in this nation....I'm not complaining but it's the truth. There are plenty of protein sources that can sustain us with less expense and much less strain to our physical being than meat causes.
Years ago I knew a vegan who suffered from protein deficiency and he refused to take his doctor's advice to have one or two buffalo burgers a month...." That's all you need " he said....but because my friend was a religious Vegan he held out. Eventually he developed a horrible open sore on his nose that made it impossible for him to do his job as a department administrator who had to face dozens of people every day....so after checking with his Maharishi or whoever the hell his spiritual counselor was he decided to do two buffalo burgers a month..... Voila! His sore healed up is a matter of a few weeks and to this day this is all the meat he consumes..
JO
I have been following a fellow named Marcus Rothkranz who is a vegan and a prolific health writer
he is 50 and looks like he's 27. He does say however that should you choose to be a vegan you must do it correctly. That I believe.
JO
I adopted a whole food vegan diet 3 months ago and feel so good I don't think I'll ever go back to eating meat.
I will correct false assumptions when they arise but I don't care what anyone else does
No it's you who think I am forcing an agenda.
All I ever said was meat is not necessary. I will correct false assumptions though.
WHat are you so defensive about?
Where did I ever tell anyone what to eat?
Please quote the exact words.
But you won't because you can't.
So stop fabricating arguments and attributing them to me
All I ever said is meat is not a neccessity in a healthy diet.
What do Doctors prescribe just for vegetarians? Because my Doctor took me off off my blood pressure meds and didn't precribe anything else at my annual physical last month
Vegetarian Diet - What You Need to Know
Care guide for Vegetarian Diet. Includes: possible causes, signs and symptoms, standard treatment options and means of care and support.
B12 isn't made by livestock either.
In fact B12 is the product of bacteria in the soil and livestock are given B12 supplements along with their antibiotics and steroids now.
And in fact there are many plants that contain zinc. A cup of oatmeal contains 21% of the daily recommended value for zinc
Spinach is loaded with iron
Chia seeds flax brussel sprouts and other plants contain omega 3 fatty acids
Do you not realize that everything you think you get eating meat is contained in all the plant matter that the animal eats?
In fact a cow has to be fed 6 kg of plant protein to make 1 kg of dietary protein.
And as I said I haven't been prescribed anything by my doctor because I have given up animal products but rather was taken off my blood pressure medication.
23 High Zinc Foods for Vegans and Vegetarians
Vegan and vegetarian sources of zinc include wheat germ, fortified cereals, beans and legumes, seeds, nuts, oatmeal, tofu, spinach, mushrooms, asparagus, broccoli, and zucchini. The daily value for zinc is 11mg per day.
We don't need to add vitamin d to milk all we have to do is get outside in the sun.
And is zinc added to wild rice, quinoa, squash and pumpkin seeds, mushrooms, black beans, etc etc etc?
Where do you think the iron , zinc or any other mineral you get from meat comes from?
It comes from the plants fed to the animals
And you don't get vitamin d from a cow either. As you said it is added to milk.
So regrow your tail and keep on acting like the monkey that you are
Meat and Nicotinamide: A Causal Role in Human Evolution, History, and Demographics
Hunting for meat was a critical step in all animal and human evolution. A key brain-trophic element in meat is vitamin B[3] / nicotinamide. The supply of meat and nicotinamide steadily increased from the Cambrian origin of animal predators ratcheting ...www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Not the way we eat it now.
How much meat do you think prehistoric man ate? And the meat they ate wasn't the over fattened steroid and antibiotic filled stuff you eat today
You climb back up and hide
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Why is that?
Here I'll ask it again
How much meat do you think prehistoric man ate?
And the meat they ate wasn't the over fattened steroid and antibiotic filled stuff you eat today
You are remarkably uninformed yet you vehemently defend your assertions.
Let's recap
You said that people can't get enough amino acids. I linked to the 9 essential AAs that must be ingested and gave lists of vegetables that contain them
You said you can't get zinc, iron or omega 3 fatty acids from plants. I gave you lists of plants that contain them
You don't know how much of the prehistoric diet consisted of meat but you hold on to the notion that all prehistoric people ate was meat
So is a ribeye and t-bonesoy, nuts & beans are good sources of protein.
He could die of wuhanDo you know what his diet was?It's the risk of dying from HEART DISEASE you dolt
I believe genes are the most important.
Jim Fixx is widely accepted as the creator of the fitness movement. You know eating right, running all that stuff.
How'd it work out for him?
I don't
I don't really care. I just recall that he was a fitness guru and died young with a heart attack.
You're not going to start eating raw beef and I'm not going to quit.
You may have bad genes and need to watch your diet. I know I have extraordinary genes and eat what I want. Works for me might work for you too.
No evidence of that. Calcium clogs your arteriesSo is a ribeye and t-bonesoy, nuts & beans are good sources of protein.
but they don't clog yer arteries. enjoy...
Most animals have either binocular or monocular vision. Most animals with binocular vision their eyes vision cross each other. So the left eye views a lot of what the right eye does and vice versa. They are meat eaters. Humans, cats, dogs are examples and so many more. Most animals with monocular vision have eyes that are slightly more to the side of the head. Horses and hippos and giraffes and many others. They are herbivores. Their vision encompasses total views of each side with no cross view or limited cross view. They are actually a bit more nervous or can be because of it.Hippos have the largest canines in the animal world and are herbivoresWe eat far too much meat in this nation....I'm not complaining but it's the truth. There are plenty of protein sources that can sustain us with less expense and much less strain to our physical being than meat causes.
Years ago I knew a vegan who suffered from protein deficiency and he refused to take his doctor's advice to have one or two buffalo burgers a month...." That's all you need " he said....but because my friend was a religious Vegan he held out. Eventually he developed a horrible open sore on his nose that made it impossible for him to do his job as a department administrator who had to face dozens of people every day....so after checking with his Maharishi or whoever the hell his spiritual counselor was he decided to do two buffalo burgers a month..... Voila! His sore healed up is a matter of a few weeks and to this day this is all the meat he consumes..
JO
Then why do we have canine teeth?
You don't eat any and there's that much for me. Get your friends join you and my friends and I can have a steak cookout!
Most vegans are protein-less anemic pussies.
And I just learned that some have pus oozing festering facial sores!
Are they a vegan or have herpes; or are they a vegan with herpes?
No evidence of that. Calcium clogs your arteriesSo is a ribeye and t-bonesoy, nuts & beans are good sources of protein.
but they don't clog yer arteries. enjoy...
Just fking wrong son, again you listen to leftists controlled fks.No evidence of that. Calcium clogs your arteriesSo is a ribeye and t-bonesoy, nuts & beans are good sources of protein.
but they don't clog yer arteries. enjoy...
How bad is red meat for your heart?
In general, red meats (beef, pork and lamb) have more saturated (bad) fat than chicken, fish and vegetable proteins such as beans. Saturated and trans fats can raise your blood cholesterol and make heart disease worse. The unsaturated fats in fish, such as salmon, actually have health benefits.
Meat, Poultry, and Fish: Picking Healthy Proteins | American Heart ...
www.heart.org › eat-smart › nutrition-basics › meat-poult.
www.healthline.com
Just fking wrong son, again you listen to leftists controlled fks.No evidence of that. Calcium clogs your arteriesSo is a ribeye and t-bonesoy, nuts & beans are good sources of protein.
but they don't clog yer arteries. enjoy...
How bad is red meat for your heart?
In general, red meats (beef, pork and lamb) have more saturated (bad) fat than chicken, fish and vegetable proteins such as beans. Saturated and trans fats can raise your blood cholesterol and make heart disease worse. The unsaturated fats in fish, such as salmon, actually have health benefits.
Meat, Poultry, and Fish: Picking Healthy Proteins | American Heart ...
www.heart.org › eat-smart › nutrition-basics › meat-poult.
Beef fat is good for you
I will son. You sacrifice your life for a bunch of government fksJust fking wrong son, again you listen to leftists controlled fks.No evidence of that. Calcium clogs your arteriesSo is a ribeye and t-bonesoy, nuts & beans are good sources of protein.
but they don't clog yer arteries. enjoy...
How bad is red meat for your heart?
In general, red meats (beef, pork and lamb) have more saturated (bad) fat than chicken, fish and vegetable proteins such as beans. Saturated and trans fats can raise your blood cholesterol and make heart disease worse. The unsaturated fats in fish, such as salmon, actually have health benefits.
Meat, Poultry, and Fish: Picking Healthy Proteins | American Heart ...
www.heart.org › eat-smart › nutrition-basics › meat-poult.
Beef fat is good for you
please- by all means - keep shoving it down yer gullet. nobody is stopping you.
in fact you should be encouraged to eat beef & pork every day.
every
single
day.
I will son. You sacrifice your life for a bunch of government fksJust fking wrong son, again you listen to leftists controlled fks.No evidence of that. Calcium clogs your arteriesSo is a ribeye and t-bonesoy, nuts & beans are good sources of protein.
but they don't clog yer arteries. enjoy...
How bad is red meat for your heart?
In general, red meats (beef, pork and lamb) have more saturated (bad) fat than chicken, fish and vegetable proteins such as beans. Saturated and trans fats can raise your blood cholesterol and make heart disease worse. The unsaturated fats in fish, such as salmon, actually have health benefits.
Meat, Poultry, and Fish: Picking Healthy Proteins | American Heart ...
www.heart.org › eat-smart › nutrition-basics › meat-poult.
Beef fat is good for you
please- by all means - keep shoving it down yer gullet. nobody is stopping you.
in fact you should be encouraged to eat beef & pork every day.
every
single
day.
