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1 in 6 Draw Welfare in Predominantly Red States

Read it. I was curious why 4 generations were on disability....its disgusting some people think its a lifestyle. I HATE being on disability and if a company hired me I would jump at the opportunity. The biggest reason I am on SSDI right now is because I got a 2 year old at home I watch and wife gets off after kids get off bus and no one here to watch them. Neither I nor my wife want this life where she works and I don't but it is what it is.

Yep, the government is trying to force me out of my career because of disabilities, and I keep fighting to work. Even with my disabilities, I can work, but having a hard time convincing government of that. They keep on making it tougher and tougher on me every year because they require me to take a physical.
 
Especially in the red states. Ooooh, that's positively orgasmic. How can they compete morally with the angelic beings dwelling in the heavenly blue states?
They gave us Trump, a man who proudly admits to and enjoys committing sexual assault, to be a role model for their children. Obviously, they can't compete.
It's really only the Loons on the Left who look to government to raise and mentor their children for them. If you're parenting the RIGHT way you really just need a POTUS to govern this nation.
Republicans will do nothing for the poor.
It's not 'they will do nothing for the poor', it's what they will do TO the poor.

It's not what you want to hear so you must have pretended to miss this post?:
"HUH?
It's Republicans (and a few DemonCrat elites) whom are funding the poor. Republican church groups all over the nation bend over backwards helping "the poor".
DemonCrats by and large don't DO shit for "the poor" they simply talk about it and demand more from Republicans in helping "the poor".
The Left assures the poor that they are not in control of their own destiny. They convince the poor that their situation was predetermined and that they themselves can do nothing about it. The Left teaches complacency and acclimation in poverty by providing the excuses and coddling.
The Right seeks to convince the poor that they are in charge and they can do something about their situation. They use proven methods, which force true resolve and change through teaching accountability and responsibility.
If this nations district leaders weren't all ghetto minded trash themselves and poverty stricken districts were ran by Ben Carson types we'd see major changes in our numbers...which would mean less votes for DemonCrats.
This is all simple shit
."
 
Why don't we ask why?

Why don't we use ALL the context?

Because the racialist alt right wants to condemn.

Not at all...there comes a time when "why" just doesn't matter any longer. It's time for grown adults to pull their heads from their asses. No matter how complicated "your people" bust their ass trying to make it...It's just not complex bud...go to school and get educated...stay motivated...work hard....TA-DA!
THE END!
The real problem is and many refuse to face it is its not the number of those who WORKED and were injured that matter its the number who NEVER worked that matter in a economy.

So true...we all know the Left hates all people who "try"...they will only champion for the ones who stand their before government with a sad face and a hand out begging to become another human pet to Republicans....Sad and pathetic.
 
I know in South Dakota most of the Welfare goes directly to the Indian reservations, the pure socialist utopia that the butt fucking progressives love... lol
 
Go ahead. Get rid of social security. Tens of millions who need it because of the ridiculous moronic low wages they received would work until death. Says something ominous and rotten about the SUPPOSED greatest nation on earth. Emphasis on supposed. The land of the rich for the rich...america.
 
Go ahead. Get rid of social security. Tens of millions who need it because of the ridiculous moronic low wages they received would work until death. Says something ominous and rotten about the SUPPOSED greatest nation on earth. Emphasis on supposed. The land of the rich for the rich...america.
Do you want a cookie?
 
Go ahead. Get rid of social security. Tens of millions who need it because of the ridiculous moronic low wages they received would work until death. Says something ominous and rotten about the SUPPOSED greatest nation on earth. Emphasis on supposed. The land of the rich for the rich...america.

Look, this country isn't for everybody...you can't be ignorant and sit on your hands your whole life or make poor decisions and expect to live the "American Dream"...simply breathing, having a heart beat and the title HUMAN does not and should not mean one is ENTITLED to the "American Dream"
The formala to achieve the dream is very simple and there for all to follow but one must be willing to set forth an effort.
"You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink."
There's a clear reason that NO ONE doing well shares your sentiment.
REMEMBER...there's an "amazing" country just to our south that is full of under achieving humans...they'd love to have you and you'd probably fit right in.
 
Why don't we ask why?

Why don't we use ALL the context?

Because the racialist alt right wants to condemn.

Not at all...there comes a time when "why" just doesn't matter any longer. It's time for grown adults to pull their heads from their asses. No matter how complicated "your people" bust their ass trying to make it...It's just not complex bud...go to school and get educated...stay motivated...work hard....TA-DA!
THE END!
The real problem is and many refuse to face it is its not the number of those who WORKED and were injured that matter its the number who NEVER worked that matter in a economy.

So true...we all know the Left hates all people who "try"...they will only champion for the ones who stand their before government with a sad face and a hand out begging to become another human pet to Republicans....Sad and pathetic.
If they were to ever succeed the dems would just tell them they didn't build that.
 
Go ahead. Get rid of social security. Tens of millions who need it because of the ridiculous moronic low wages they received would work until death. Says something ominous and rotten about the SUPPOSED greatest nation on earth. Emphasis on supposed. The land of the rich for the rich...america.
The government is trying to make sure you die before getting benefits. WTF do you think they keep raising the retirement age for? They won't even let you use a 401k before they think you should have died.
 
Why don't we ask why?

Why don't we use ALL the context?

Because the racialist alt right wants to condemn.

Not at all...there comes a time when "why" just doesn't matter any longer. It's time for grown adults to pull their heads from their asses. No matter how complicated "your people" bust their ass trying to make it...It's just not complex bud...go to school and get educated...stay motivated...work hard....TA-DA!
THE END!
The real problem is and many refuse to face it is its not the number of those who WORKED and were injured that matter its the number who NEVER worked that matter in a economy.

So true...we all know the Left hates all people who "try"...they will only champion for the ones who stand their before government with a sad face and a hand out begging to become another human pet to Republicans....Sad and pathetic.
If they were to ever succeed the dems would just tell them they didn't build that.
What has welfare built?
Safer cities? No
Professional careers? No
Better education? No
Lower crime? No
Less drug use? No

Its builds noting and never will. Its an economic drain that keeps getting bigger.
 
Welfare is not SS or Medicare.

Medicaid is cheaper than ER visits.

I do believe in public work projects that uses able-bodied citizens on assistance.
 
Article this morning describes the aforementioned swelling of Social Security Disability claims made in Red States across the fruited plain.

The article states:

How to visualize the growth in disability in the United States? One way is to think of a map. Rural communities, where on average 9.1 percent of working-age people are on disability — nearly twice the urban rate and 40 percent higher than the national average — are in a brighter shade than cities. An even brighter hue then spreads from Appalachia into the Deep South and out into Missouri, where rates are higher yet, places economists have called “disability belts.” The brightest color of all can be found in 102 counties, mostly within these belts, where a Washington Post analysis of federal statistics estimates that, at minimum, about 1 in 6 working-age residents draw disability checks.

One family. Four generations of disability benefits. Will it continue?

Question: Should the President do something about this?

One way is very easy and clear by the way.... The whole story is at thisamericanlife.org but I'll give you the highlight; I'm doing this from memory so if I get a detail wrong, forgive me. When you apply for SSD, about 2 thirds are refused out of hand. So that means if Larry, Moe and Curly all apply, Larry and Moe are going to get rejected.

Now, what you do after that is paramount because it is important. About 1/2 appeal their ruling. Of those who appeal, 80% who hire an attorney to represent them get their benefits. The way it works is that there is a hearing about the rejection. At the hearing is the attorney for the person who filed (Binder and Binder are the #1 firm nationwide) and the judge. The federal government sends nobody.

Here is the transcript of the passage:

The way Binder tells it, he is a guy helping desperate people get the support they deserve. He's a cowboy-hatted Lone Ranger fighting the good fight for the everyman. He apparently keeps a picture of the Lone Ranger on his desk.

So you've got 30,000 people denied disability who are appealing to a judge, taking their case to the courts. And on the one side, the judge has this passionate persuasive lawyer making the case that his client is physically or emotionally incapable of working. And on the other side, who's on the other side? Nobody. Nobody, really. I couldn't believe this when I first heard it. David Autor, the economist, told me with disability cases, there is no person in the room making the government's case.

David Autor
You might imagine a courtroom where, on the one side, there's the claimant and their lawyer saying, my client needs these benefits. On the other side, there's the government attorney saying, ah no, well, we need to protect the public interest, and your client is not sufficiently deserving, and here's why I think that, and so on. But it actually doesn't work like that. Because the government is not represented. There is no government lawyer on the other side of the room.

Again, I don't think anyone wants to deny a legitimately disabled person some benefits but when the government doesn't saddle up for any of the claims, it looks as though people are taking advantage. Especially in the red states.
That's just a fucking disturbing story. 1. WHY would a parent allow their mentally retarded child to have kids!? WTF?
2. What the hell is with parents NOT pushing education as the way OUT of poverty!? My kids HATE MY GUTS because I force them to take education seriously. I threatened and was serious about holding back my oldest if her math grade in the final report card was NOT what I wanted it to be.....she hit the EXACT number I wanted. I don't hide how poor we are from them because then that makes think we are well off etc but that's only because we thrift store shop,pinch pennies,yard sales etc. I want them to graduate high school and ALL go to college. Oldest wants to be a Veterinarian,son will probably end up being a Cop or Fire Fighter. IMO its child abuse to just allow your kids to NOT do the best in education...don't fucking have them if you can't or don't care about them doing their best.

Did you listen to the story or read it…just curious.
Read it. I was curious why 4 generations were on disability....its disgusting some people think its a lifestyle. I HATE being on disability and if a company hired me I would jump at the opportunity. The biggest reason I am on SSDI right now is because I got a 2 year old at home I watch and wife gets off after kids get off bus and no one here to watch them. Neither I nor my wife want this life where she works and I don't but it is what it is.

The recording @ thisamericanlife.org (The show is titled “Trends with benefits” is a bit more powerful; you hear the voices of all parties they interviewed…

Thanks for sharing your situation.
 
1 in 6 Draw Welfare in Predominantly Red States
Of COURSE there will be more White Folk on Welfare than Blacks or Hispanics.

Blacks only constitute twelve (12%) percent of the total US population.

Whites constitute seventy-seven (77%) percent of the total US population.

http://www.census.gov/quickfacts/table/PST045216/00

Raw numbers, without the context of percentage-of-ethnic-population, in the racial context established by the OP, are highly misleading... and downright deceptive.

However, all one need do is to look at the
PERCENTAGE of the total Black population on Welfare, vs. the PERCENTAGE of the total White population on Welfare, to understand the situation properly.

That's a perspective that Liberals don't want us looking at too closely, and that they try to mask, with all this Red State $hit... something they try to repeat every so often.

=============================================================

Using HuffPo's OWN racial demographics on food stamp consumption; drawn from USDA data...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/28/food-stamp-demographics_n_6771938.html

And the USDA's total food stamp (SNAP) consumption figures...

http://www.fns.usda.gov/sites/default/files/pd/29SNAPcurrPP.pdf

Total US population, 2016, US Census Bureau estimate
323,127,513
Total Black population (323,127,512 X .12)
38,775,301​
Total White population (323,127,512 X .77)
248,808,185​
_
Total US food stamp (SNAP) participation, Jan 2017
42,684,691​
Percent of all US food stamps consumed by Blacks
25.7%​
Total US Blacks receiving food stamps (42,684,691 X .257)
10.959,965​
Percent of US Blacks receiving food stamps (10,959,965 / 38,775.301)
28.29%
_
Total US food stamp (SNAP) participation, Jan 2017
42,684,691​
Percent of all US food stamps consumed by Whites
40.2%​
Total US Whites receiving food stamps (42,684,691 X .402)
17,159,245​
Percent of US Whites receiving food stamps (17,159,245/248,808,185)
6.9%
_
Percent of US Blacks receiving food stamps (SNAP)
28.29%
Percent of US Whites receiving food stamps (SNAP)
6.9%
Difference
21.39%​
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Consequently, we see that 21.39% more Blacks are on food stamps, than Whites, as a percentage of their demographic within the larger US total population.

So much for the raw-numbers hor$e$hit being fed to us by deceitful Liberals.

Next slide, please.

Who mentioned race?
The OP.

By implication.

Red States vs. Blue States.

And if you tell me that one cannot reliably infer "race" from such an opening, you are going to be laughed at.

Revealing percentages though, aren't they?
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Enjoy.

Next contestant, please.

You’re obsessed with race then…
I’ve been away for a few months; are the no longer blacks in the South?
 
Why don't we ask why?

Why don't we use ALL the context?

Because the racialist alt right wants to condemn.

Not at all...there comes a time when "why" just doesn't matter any longer. It's time for grown adults to pull their heads from their asses. No matter how complicated "your people" bust their ass trying to make it...It's just not complex bud...go to school and get educated...stay motivated...work hard....TA-DA!
THE END!
The real problem is and many refuse to face it is its not the number of those who WORKED and were injured that matter its the number who NEVER worked that matter in a economy.

So true...we all know the Left hates all people who "try"...they will only champion for the ones who stand their before government with a sad face and a hand out begging to become another human pet to Republicans....Sad and pathetic.
If they were to ever succeed the dems would just tell them they didn't build that.
What has welfare built?
Safer cities? No
Professional careers? No
Better education? No
Lower crime? No
Less drug use? No

Its builds noting and never will. Its an economic drain that keeps getting bigger.

Well..........it does keep people from working so there are more jobs for the rest of us. :biggrin:
 
Go ahead. Get rid of social security. Tens of millions who need it because of the ridiculous moronic low wages they received would work until death. Says something ominous and rotten about the SUPPOSED greatest nation on earth. Emphasis on supposed. The land of the rich for the rich...america.
The government is trying to make sure you die before getting benefits. WTF do you think they keep raising the retirement age for? They won't even let you use a 401k before they think you should have died.

The thing is if we want to keep these programs, they need to keep increasing contributions or it will eventually fail. I can't remember the last time they raised our SS or Medicare deductions. No program can survive if it keeps paying out more and more every year, and no additional funds coming in.
 
Heard of a guy in East Texas who had 100% disability and was making more than 200K a year running several night clubs.

SSI is a scam for many in East Texas, yes.
Under ssi laws you can't work but you can own anything.
Untrue, you can make money while on SSI around 14k a year before they start deducting from SSI, and in 9 months of over the limit SSI stops completely.
 
Article this morning describes the aforementioned swelling of Social Security Disability claims made in Red States across the fruited plain.

The article states:

How to visualize the growth in disability in the United States? One way is to think of a map. Rural communities, where on average 9.1 percent of working-age people are on disability — nearly twice the urban rate and 40 percent higher than the national average — are in a brighter shade than cities. An even brighter hue then spreads from Appalachia into the Deep South and out into Missouri, where rates are higher yet, places economists have called “disability belts.” The brightest color of all can be found in 102 counties, mostly within these belts, where a Washington Post analysis of federal statistics estimates that, at minimum, about 1 in 6 working-age residents draw disability checks.

One family. Four generations of disability benefits. Will it continue?

Question: Should the President do something about this?

One way is very easy and clear by the way.... The whole story is at thisamericanlife.org but I'll give you the highlight; I'm doing this from memory so if I get a detail wrong, forgive me. When you apply for SSD, about 2 thirds are refused out of hand. So that means if Larry, Moe and Curly all apply, Larry and Moe are going to get rejected.

Now, what you do after that is paramount because it is important. About 1/2 appeal their ruling. Of those who appeal, 80% who hire an attorney to represent them get their benefits. The way it works is that there is a hearing about the rejection. At the hearing is the attorney for the person who filed (Binder and Binder are the #1 firm nationwide) and the judge. The federal government sends nobody.

Here is the transcript of the passage:

The way Binder tells it, he is a guy helping desperate people get the support they deserve. He's a cowboy-hatted Lone Ranger fighting the good fight for the everyman. He apparently keeps a picture of the Lone Ranger on his desk.

So you've got 30,000 people denied disability who are appealing to a judge, taking their case to the courts. And on the one side, the judge has this passionate persuasive lawyer making the case that his client is physically or emotionally incapable of working. And on the other side, who's on the other side? Nobody. Nobody, really. I couldn't believe this when I first heard it. David Autor, the economist, told me with disability cases, there is no person in the room making the government's case.

David Autor
You might imagine a courtroom where, on the one side, there's the claimant and their lawyer saying, my client needs these benefits. On the other side, there's the government attorney saying, ah no, well, we need to protect the public interest, and your client is not sufficiently deserving, and here's why I think that, and so on. But it actually doesn't work like that. Because the government is not represented. There is no government lawyer on the other side of the room.

Again, I don't think anyone wants to deny a legitimately disabled person some benefits but when the government doesn't saddle up for any of the claims, it looks as though people are taking advantage. Especially in the red states.


Would you guys consider the question raised in the red text above; should Trump instruct the SSA to put an attorney in the room to argue if someone is “actually” disabled?

I’m thinking yes.
 
Heard of a guy in East Texas who had 100% disability and was making more than 200K a year running several night clubs.

SSI is a scam for many in East Texas, yes.
Under ssi laws you can't work but you can own anything.
Untrue, you can make money while on SSI around 14k a year before they start deducting from SSI, and in 9 months of over the limit SSI stops completely.
My SSI checks are more then 14k a year easy.
 

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