2016: Conservatism WON the presidential popular vote

[TheGreatGatsby]

You're leaving out the 6MILLION votes that went AGAINST Hillary for Stein, Johnson and others. There was no popular vote evidence that the "country wanted Hillary".. When making comments on the math, you have to be precise. So MAYBE you can claim that "more people in the country preferred Hilliary to Trump". But that fails because we'll never know what the Pop vote outcome for a 2 way race was.

America as a whole REJECTED Hillary by about a 4.5Mill vote margin.. That's a fact.

When you have multi-way races that get increasingly competitive, it becomes laughable at some point to declare that "America WANTED Moron B" When Moron B gets only 44 or 39% of the pop vote. Doesn't it??

Don't disenfranchise the 6Mill votes for other choices. You'll piss off the LARGEST political group in America.

I'm not leaving out anybody. Bottom line. Hillary got more votes than Trump. Hillary got more votes than Stein. Hillary got more votes than Johnson. Hillary got more votes than any of the others. You can play what if all you want, but you can never honestly say rump was the choice of the people. He might have been elected due to a very irregular result of the electoral college, but he wasn't elected by the will of the people. Hillary had the honor of the most votes. Playing what if, and silly number games will never change that.

So if a candidate polls 40% and that is MORE than any other single candidate -- to YOU --- "America wanted that candidate" ?? That's what "winning" the popular vote means to you? Even if 60% of America DID NOT VOTE for them? Good luck with that "definition"..

Because the 2 brand name parties are dying and we're headed in that direction..

Still tying to play what if. Look at it any way you want. More people voted against Trump than against Hillary. Still the same outcome. Trump was elected with fewer votes than Hillary, and no amount of playing what if will change that. He is not the country's top choice, and I'm pretty sure he will never be. You've gone past dumb to desperate.

The country wisely chose Trump over Hillary. And they did it by such a margin that all the DNC cheating in their urban bases couldn't overcome him. The numbers in the end are phony. Hillary won no popular vote.

Another RWNJ refusing to accept reality. No surprise there.

Dude, you spend all day on here doing nothing but posting propaganda. Hope you're getting paid for this, so to speak. Point is you shouldn't be calling anyone a political nut job.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

TheGreatGatsby, post: 16167934

Even with all the illegals (and felons) voting, liberals still lost the total popular vote; and this narrative that Hillary won the popular vote is superficial, phony nonsense like everything else coming from the liberal establishment.

That Hillary Clinton won the popular vote is not coming from the liberal establishment. It is called numeral fact. I realize you can't deal with it but she won more votes than any other candidate did. The 2nd place candidate is nearly three million votes behind Clinton when all the counting was complete.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Conservative Republican: 45.95%
Conservative Libertarian: 3.28%
Conservative Independent (McMullin): 0.53%
Conservative Constitution: 0.15%

Conservative Total: 49.91%

Liberal Democrat: 48.04%
Liberal Green: 1.06%

Liberal Total: 49.10%

Even with all the illegals (and felons) voting, liberals still lost the total popular vote; and this narrative that Hillary won the popular vote is superficial, phony nonsense like everything else coming from the liberal establishment.

WTF is conservative about Trump, besides forced birthing .... assuming that's conservatism, which Goldwater would argue is not?

Well, if he's not conservative, then you have nothing to bitch about.

 

[owebo]

TheGreatGatsby, post: 16167934

Even with all the illegals (and felons) voting, liberals still lost the total popular vote; and this narrative that Hillary won the popular vote is superficial, phony nonsense like everything else coming from the liberal establishment.

That Hillary Clinton won the popular vote is not coming from the liberal establishment. It is called numeral fact. I realize you can't deal with it but she won more votes than any other candidate did. The 2nd place candidate is nearly three million votes behind Clinton when all the counting was complete.

What did she win?

 

[basquebromance]

Anthony Bourdain lets liberals know that part of the responsibility for Trump’s election rests squarely on their shoulders

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Ms. Clinton got more votes than anyone else.

Yes, but if the election were about that; those voting for other conservative candidates may well have voted for Trump. And clearly we see that your agenda is not supported by a majority as well.

If. if. If. if. Your clown lucked out, and you want to act like he legitimately won. He' will be president, but you will never be able to say the majority of the country wanted that.

Trump's strategy was to concentrate on the swing states, NOT the popular vote. He did legitimately win since the goal is to amass 270 electoral votes.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

TheGreatGatsby, post: 16167934

Even with all the illegals (and felons) voting, liberals still lost the total popular vote; and this narrative that Hillary won the popular vote is superficial, phony nonsense like everything else coming from the liberal establishment.

That Hillary Clinton won the popular vote is not coming from the liberal establishment. It is called numeral fact. I realize you can't deal with it but she won more votes than any other candidate did. The 2nd place candidate is nearly three million votes behind Clinton when all the counting was complete.

You guys are a riot

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Conservative Republican: 45.95%
Conservative Libertarian: 3.28%
Conservative Independent (McMullin): 0.53%
Conservative Constitution: 0.15%

Conservative Total: 49.91%

Liberal Democrat: 48.04%
Liberal Green: 1.06%

Liberal Total: 49.10%

Even with all the illegals (and felons) voting, liberals still lost the total popular vote; and this narrative that Hillary won the popular vote is superficial, phony nonsense like everything else coming from the liberal establishment.

Polls show Gary Johnson taking more support from Clinton, not Trump - Hot Air

Yea, that's a total load of shit. Just shows there is no lie that the globalists won't peddle.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

TheGreatGatsby, post: 16167934

Even with all the illegals (and felons) voting, liberals still lost the total popular vote; and this narrative that Hillary won the popular vote is superficial, phony nonsense like everything else coming from the liberal establishment.

That Hillary Clinton won the popular vote is not coming from the liberal establishment. It is called numeral fact. I realize you can't deal with it but she won more votes than any other candidate did. The 2nd place candidate is nearly three million votes behind Clinton when all the counting was complete.

Yea; "fact"; not truth.

 

[flacaltenn]

This whole discussion really doesn't mean anything because popular never has, nor will it ever, decide who President will be. The popular per state is to decide who the state EC Electors will vote for. It is the tally of those votes elects the President.

You know this, so getting into a heated discussion of who wins/won the popular vote is pointless. You know states decide, therefore Trump won that popular vote 60% to 40% with a 77 vote difference.

There is a very specific point in discussing the popular vote. The country wanted Hillary as president, but Trump won instead because of an odd result from the electoral college. Three Million more votes for Hillary proves that. Yes, he will be president. No, it wasn't because of the will of the people. You can brag about him winning all you want, but you will never be able to truthfully say it was the will of the voters.

You're leaving out the 6MILLION votes that went AGAINST Hillary for Stein, Johnson and others. There was no popular vote evidence that the "country wanted Hillary".. When making comments on the math, you have to be precise. So MAYBE you can claim that "more people in the country preferred Hilliary to Trump". But that fails because we'll never know what the Pop vote outcome for a 2 way race was.

America as a whole REJECTED Hillary by about a 4.5Mill vote margin.. That's a fact.

When you have multi-way races that get increasingly competitive, it becomes laughable at some point to declare that "America WANTED Moron B" When Moron B gets only 44 or 39% of the pop vote. Doesn't it??

Don't disenfranchise the 6Mill votes for other choices. You'll piss off the LARGEST political group in America.

I'm not leaving out anybody. Bottom line. Hillary got more votes than Trump. Hillary got more votes than Stein. Hillary got more votes than Johnson. Hillary got more votes than any of the others. You can play what if all you want, but you can never honestly say rump was the choice of the people. He might have been elected due to a very irregular result of the electoral college, but he wasn't elected by the will of the people. Hillary had the honor of the most votes. Playing what if, and silly number games will never change that.

So if a candidate polls 40% and that is MORE than any other single candidate -- to YOU --- "America wanted that candidate" ?? That's what "winning" the popular vote means to you? Even if 60% of America DID NOT VOTE for them? Good luck with that "definition"..

Because the 2 brand name parties are dying and we're headed in that direction..

Still tying to play what if. Look at it any way you want. More people voted against Trump than against Hillary. Still the same outcome. Trump was elected with fewer votes than Hillary, and no amount of playing what if will change that. He is not the country's top choice, and I'm pretty sure he will never be. You've gone past dumb to desperate.

You guys are the ones playing the "what-if" game. There was NO 2 way race for president. And you are dissing the popular vote of 6 million OTHER Americans who did not reward Clinton or Trump with their votes. They COUNT. You cannot disenfranchise them. That's even in the "equal protection" clause of the Constitution.

If you want to know the Pop vote outcome for a TWO way race --- go create one.

 

[bendog]

Conservative Republican: 45.95%
Conservative Libertarian: 3.28%
Conservative Independent (McMullin): 0.53%
Conservative Constitution: 0.15%

Conservative Total: 49.91%

Liberal Democrat: 48.04%
Liberal Green: 1.06%

Liberal Total: 49.10%

Even with all the illegals (and felons) voting, liberals still lost the total popular vote; and this narrative that Hillary won the popular vote is superficial, phony nonsense like everything else coming from the liberal establishment.

WTF is conservative about Trump, besides forced birthing .... assuming that's conservatism, which Goldwater would argue is not?

Well, if he's not conservative, then you have nothing to bitch about.

No I am bitching because he plans to blow up spending and engage in protectionism. Sadly, Hillary would actually have resulted in more conservative gummit, because McConnell and Ryan would have restrained spending.

 

[flacaltenn]

TheGreatGatsby, post: 16167934

Even with all the illegals (and felons) voting, liberals still lost the total popular vote; and this narrative that Hillary won the popular vote is superficial, phony nonsense like everything else coming from the liberal establishment.

That Hillary Clinton won the popular vote is not coming from the liberal establishment. It is called numeral fact. I realize you can't deal with it but she won more votes than any other candidate did. The 2nd place candidate is nearly three million votes behind Clinton when all the counting was complete.

She's behind when you count ALL OF the popular vote. Including the 6 million that voted for other candidates. I know you annointed leftists like to disenfranchise voters, but you're not in charge of the math. Those 6 million OTHER pop votes count against her..

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Conservative Republican: 45.95%
Conservative Libertarian: 3.28%
Conservative Independent (McMullin): 0.53%
Conservative Constitution: 0.15%

Conservative Total: 49.91%

Liberal Democrat: 48.04%
Liberal Green: 1.06%

Liberal Total: 49.10%

Even with all the illegals (and felons) voting, liberals still lost the total popular vote; and this narrative that Hillary won the popular vote is superficial, phony nonsense like everything else coming from the liberal establishment.

WTF is conservative about Trump, besides forced birthing .... assuming that's conservatism, which Goldwater would argue is not?

Well, if he's not conservative, then you have nothing to bitch about.

No I am bitching because he plans to blow up spending and engage in protectionism. Sadly, Hillary would actually have resulted in more conservative gummit, because McConnell and Ryan would have restrained spending.

Suddenly, you're against spending. Show me the post that you criticized Obama on spending?

And protectionism is designed to combat things like outsourcing, a faux issue of liberals.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

16173726, member: 36327

Well, if he's not conservative, then you have nothing to bitch about.

Trumps has no ideology but Trumpism. That's the danger. And conservatives gave up most of their principles to vote for him. He promised you rwnjs a judge and a wall. He won't build the wall but he can't wiggle out of the judge.

So showing no spine against Putin is what you have traded your souls for. Putin is worth $85 billion as the richest man in the world. Trump admires him greatly. Putin got there by (elective office) Could it be the goal of Trumpism. Trump family power drives a need to be the richest family in the world. Kissing a foreign leader like Putin's ass is unbecoming from a businessman. Kissing a kleptocrat like Putin's ass as the sitting US Republican President is something to marvel at coming from the aggressive genuinely moderate middle.

You have lost your spines for a judge and an imaginary wall.

Not to mention Trump's insult to all our POWs and his admitted sexual assaults against women.

 

[owebo]

16173726, member: 36327

Well, if he's not conservative, then you have nothing to bitch about.

Trumps has no ideology but Trumpism. That's the danger. And conservatives gave up most of their principles to vote for him. He promised you rwnjs a judge and a wall. He won't build the wall but he can't wiggle out of the judge.

So showing no spine against Putin is what you have traded your souls for. Putin is worth $85 billion as the richest man in the world. Trump admires him greatly. Putin got there by (elective office) Could it be the goal of Trumpism. Trump family power drives a need to be the richest family in the world. Kissing a foreign leader like Putin's ass is unbecoming from a businessman. Kissing a kleptocrat like Putin's ass as the sitting US Republican President is something to marvel at coming from the aggressive genuinely moderate middle.

You have lost your spines for a judge and an imaginary wall.

Not to mention Trump's insult to all our POWs and his admitted sexual assaults against women.

You vote hillary?

 

[owebo]

There is a very specific point in discussing the popular vote. The country wanted Hillary as president, but Trump won instead because of an odd result from the electoral college. Three Million more votes for Hillary proves that. Yes, he will be president. No, it wasn't because of the will of the people. You can brag about him winning all you want, but you will never be able to truthfully say it was the will of the voters.

You're leaving out the 6MILLION votes that went AGAINST Hillary for Stein, Johnson and others. There was no popular vote evidence that the "country wanted Hillary".. When making comments on the math, you have to be precise. So MAYBE you can claim that "more people in the country preferred Hilliary to Trump". But that fails because we'll never know what the Pop vote outcome for a 2 way race was.

America as a whole REJECTED Hillary by about a 4.5Mill vote margin.. That's a fact.

When you have multi-way races that get increasingly competitive, it becomes laughable at some point to declare that "America WANTED Moron B" When Moron B gets only 44 or 39% of the pop vote. Doesn't it??

Don't disenfranchise the 6Mill votes for other choices. You'll piss off the LARGEST political group in America.

I'm not leaving out anybody. Bottom line. Hillary got more votes than Trump. Hillary got more votes than Stein. Hillary got more votes than Johnson. Hillary got more votes than any of the others. You can play what if all you want, but you can never honestly say rump was the choice of the people. He might have been elected due to a very irregular result of the electoral college, but he wasn't elected by the will of the people. Hillary had the honor of the most votes. Playing what if, and silly number games will never change that.

So if a candidate polls 40% and that is MORE than any other single candidate -- to YOU --- "America wanted that candidate" ?? That's what "winning" the popular vote means to you? Even if 60% of America DID NOT VOTE for them? Good luck with that "definition"..

Because the 2 brand name parties are dying and we're headed in that direction..

Still tying to play what if. Look at it any way you want. More people voted against Trump than against Hillary. Still the same outcome. Trump was elected with fewer votes than Hillary, and no amount of playing what if will change that. He is not the country's top choice, and I'm pretty sure he will never be. You've gone past dumb to desperate.

You guys are the ones playing the "what-if" game. There was NO 2 way race for president. And you are dissing the popular vote of 6 million OTHER Americans who did not reward Clinton or Trump with their votes. They COUNT. You cannot disenfranchise them. That's even in the "equal protection" clause of the Constitution.

If you want to know the Pop vote outcome for a TWO way race --- go create one.

Step aside from towing your string....we the people got a rope to tow here....

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

16173726, member: 36327

Well, if he's not conservative, then you have nothing to bitch about.

Trumps has no ideology but Trumpism. That's the danger. And conservatives gave up most of their principles to vote for him. He promised you rwnjs a judge and a wall. He won't build the wall but he can't wiggle out of the judge.

So showing no spine against Putin is what you have traded your souls for. Putin is worth $85 billion as the richest man in the world. Trump admires him greatly. Putin got there by (elective office) Could it be the goal of Trumpism. Trump family power drives a need to be the richest family in the world. Kissing a foreign leader like Putin's ass is unbecoming from a businessman. Kissing a kleptocrat like Putin's ass as the sitting US Republican President is something to marvel at coming from the aggressive genuinely moderate middle.

You have lost your spines for a judge and an imaginary wall.

Not to mention Trump's insult to all our POWs and his admitted sexual assaults against women.

Let's assume you're onto something. Trump was still the better choice than everything else; and in the general, you offered us the most corrupt politician of all-time; a career criminal. If you're looking for someone to blame, look for a mirror for starters.

And it's a false narrative that your establishment spins. Nobody loves Russia. What they're doing in Ukraine is wrong. What Obama is doing in Syria is wrong. People want to act like it's not a multifaceted issue. But what Obama/Clinton are doing in the name of America is inexcusable. And Russia is fighting for interests in our benefit in the Middle East, whereas Obama/Clinton are/were committed to a globalist scheme to internally destroy America. Putin's merely a talking point for you guys; Trumping that bull shit phony criminal element was the first fundamental order of business. You'd love to paint it that we love Putin though instead. No. To that I say fuck off. Just fuck off.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

16173726, member: 36327

Well, if he's not conservative, then you have nothing to bitch about.

Trumps has no ideology but Trumpism. That's the danger. And conservatives gave up most of their principles to vote for him. He promised you rwnjs a judge and a wall. He won't build the wall but he can't wiggle out of the judge.

So showing no spine against Putin is what you have traded your souls for. Putin is worth $85 billion as the richest man in the world. Trump admires him greatly. Putin got there by (elective office) Could it be the goal of Trumpism. Trump family power drives a need to be the richest family in the world. Kissing a foreign leader like Putin's ass is unbecoming from a businessman. Kissing a kleptocrat like Putin's ass as the sitting US Republican President is something to marvel at coming from the aggressive genuinely moderate middle.

You have lost your spines for a judge and an imaginary wall.

Not to mention Trump's insult to all our POWs and his admitted sexual assaults against women.

We knew what we'd get with Hillary, so choosing Trump was rather easy at the end.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

She's behind when you count ALL OF the popular vote. Including the 6 million that voted for other candidates. I know you annointed leftists like to disenfranchise voters, but you're not in charge of the math. Those 6 million OTHER pop votes count against her..

She is behind what share of the electorate? Did Trump come in second or didn't he?

The electoral college system disenfranchises voters.

No one disenfranchised any voter. Those that voted other than Clinton and Trump voted their choice. Clinton got more votes than any of them. Are you in denial of that.

The top percentage is the top percentage. Only a moron would argue that you add the pure losers in the race to the second place finisher. They did not vote for Trump. They don't get counted with him.

You are rendering their protest vote by adding them to Trump.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

She's behind when you count ALL OF the popular vote. Including the 6 million that voted for other candidates. I know you annointed leftists like to disenfranchise voters, but you're not in charge of the math. Those 6 million OTHER pop votes count against her..

She is behind what share of the electorate? Did Trump come in second or didn't he?

The electoral college system disenfranchises voters.

No one disenfranchised any voter. Those that voted other than Clinton and Trump voted their choice. Clinton got more votes than any of them. Are you in denial of that.

The top percentage is the top percentage. Only a moron would argue that you add the pure losers in the race to the second place finisher. They did not vote for Trump. They don't get counted with him.

You are rendering their protest vote by adding them to Trump.

Let me guess, you're a milennial who being still wet behind the ears, was shocked to discover that a presidential candidate can lose even after getting the most votes?