4 Inconvenient Facts The Right Ignores

[jillian]

Jillian posting more crap. Where are the links for these?

1)the religious right was for segregation? WTF???? Where do you people come up with this shit?
2)Again a link? There was the 1934 law banning automatic weapons....but that's it...

3)so was Al Gore Sr a conservative, Woodrow Wilson? ? The republican party defended civil rights until this day, but lets use your liberal souther strategy in the late 60s. Before that time, name the last democrat more conservative than the republican?

Jillians take on the NRA's evolution from a sporting organization to one more primed to defend gun manufacturers is historical fact.

"The NRA formed its Legislative Affairs Division to update members with facts and analysis of upcoming bills,[17] after the National Firearms Act of 1934 (NFA) became the first federal gun-control law passed in the U.S.[18] The NRA supported the NFA along with the Gun Control Act of 1968 (GCA), which together created a system to federally license gun dealers and established restrictions on particular categories and classes of firearms."-Wikipedia

Now-"Since 2005, the gun industry and its corporate allies have given between $20 million and $52.6 million to it through the NRA Ring of Freedom sponsor program. Donors include firearm companies like Midway USA, Springfield Armory Inc, Pierce Bullet Seal Target Systems, and Beretta USA Corporation. Other supporters from the gun industry include Cabala's, Sturm Rugar & Co, and Smith & Wesson.

The NRA also made $20.9 million — about 10 percent of its revenue — from selling advertising to industry companies marketing products in its many publications in 2010, according to the IRS Form 990.

Additionally, some companies donate portions of sales directly to the NRA. Crimson Trace, which makes laser sights, donates 10 percent of each sale to the NRA. Taurus buys an NRA membership for everyone who buys one of their guns. Sturm Rugar gives $1 to the NRA for each gun sold, which amounts to millions. The NRA's revenues are intrinsically linked to the success of the gun business".

There are two reasons for the industry support for the NRA. The first is that the organization develops and maintains a market for their products. The second, less direct function, is to absorb criticism in the event of PR crises for the gun industry.

It's possible that without the NRA, people would be protesting outside of Glock, SIG Sauer and Freedom Group — the makers of the guns used in the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre — and dragging the CEOs in front of cameras and Congress. That is certainly what happened to tobacco executives when their products continued killing people."

LINK: http://www.businessinsider.com/gun-industry-funds-nra-2013-1#ixzz33vgOaxJu

of course it's historical fact. but the right doesn't like historical fact. they'd rather pretend.

there was also NEVER a private right of gun ownership until Heller... justices used to laugh at the very idea.

pity they were able to pervert the Court.

 

[Bfgrn]

so, all this is true because of some people who wrote it on their BLOGS and hate websites like SALON and that make it the truth, the whole, and nothing but the truth

so we have one Expert opinion from a blog called, scienceblog and from someone who calls himself, mikethamadbiologest
And they post the actions of ONE FRIKKEN MAN, Jerry Falwall and that made it ALL OF THE RELIGIOUS RIGHT...
You people are frikken DISHONEST you should feel shame


and the other one is from the businessinsider
here's their contributors

Contributors[edit]

The site editors vary greatly in background. CEO and Editor-In-Chief Henry Blodget is a Yale graduate who previously worked on Wall Street, then was fined $2,000,000 as part of a civil suit for fraud, and another $2,000,000 in disgorgement, and being censured and barred from the securities industry by the Securities and Exchange Commission,.[10] Executive editor Joe Weisenthal has worked as an analyst and writer for a series of dotcoms,[11] such as Techdirt. Deputy editor Nicholas Carlson previously worked at Internet.com and Gawker Media's Silicon Valley gossip blog, Valleywag. Senior editor Jim Edwards previously was managing editor at Adweek. British journalist Milo Yiannopoulos writes a weekly column for the site.

so, other business pay people for marketing and sales, they also hire people to be their spokesperson and to absorb critizcism, but that is a sin if the NRA does I guess
from the blog:

There are two reasons for the industry support for the NRA. The first is that the organization develops and maintains a market for their products. The second, less direct function, is to absorb criticism in the event of PR crises for the gun industry.

now I found this one troubling from the same blog

It's possible that without the NRA, people would be protesting outside of Glock, SIG Sauer and Freedom Group — the makers of the guns used in the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre — and dragging the CEOs in front of cameras and Congress. That is certainly what happened to tobacco executives when their products continued killing people."

and you talk about rightwing being brainwashed

and jilly, attorneys are suppose to help people not spread hateful lies, call people idiot, rightwingnuts and we could hope you'd at least have a SHRED of honor in what you post over here

Adolphus Busch IV is trying to tell you something. Something that only an insider can provide. Only someone who KNOWS what the NRA is REALLY all about.

But the parrots will disregard this information and continue to believe the NRA cares about the American people.

Budweiser heir Adolphus Busch IV resigns NRA membership

ST. LOUIS (KSDK) - One day after the U.S. Senate rejected a bill that would have expanded background checks on guns, one of St. Louis' most powerful and staunch supporters of gun rights ended his lifetime membership with the National Rifle Association (NRA).

"The NRA I see today has undermined the values upon which it was established," wrote Busch, who also dropped his NRA membership. "Your current strategic focus clearly places priority on the needs of gun and ammunition manufacturers while disregarding the opinions of your 4 million individual members."

Busch joined the pro-gun organization in 1975 and has spoken before of his love of hunting. But the NRA has moved in a direction that Busch would not follow. "One only has to look at the makeup of the 75-member board of directors, dominated by manufacturing interests, to confirm my point. The NRA appears to have evolved into the lobby for gun and ammunition manufacturers rather than gun owners," he wrote.

 

[Billo_Really]

Wrong her supposed source is an OPINION piece. And it does not source the claims either.

That's what you're claiming, it's not what you're proving. Merely "stating" your objection that her article is wrong, doesn't cut it. You have to prove it!

Unless you provide a corroborative citation, or explain (in detail) what is wrong with each one of her 4 points, there is no reason anyone should listen further to your little "OEO" (Op Ed Objection).

If you tried to pull this shit in a court of law, the judge would throw it (your objection) out. And if you continued like you are now, he'd throw you out.

It would go something like this:

RetiredGySgt: "Your Honor, I object!"
Judge: "On what grounds?"
RetiredGySgt: "Uhhhh......"
Judge: "Objection over ruled". ​

 

[Edgetho]

Wrong her supposed source is an OPINION piece. And it does not source the claims either.

That's what you're claiming, it's not what you're proving. Merely "stating" your objection that her article is wrong, doesn't cut it. You have to prove it!

Unless you provide a corroborative citation, or explain (in detail) what is wrong with each one of her 4 points, there is no reason anyone should listen further to your little "OEO" (Op Ed Objection).

If you tried to pull this shit in a court of law, the judge would throw it (your objection) out. And if you continued like you are now, he'd throw you out.

It would go something like this:

RetiredGySgt: "Your Honor, I object!"
Judge: "On what grounds?"
RetiredGySgt: "Uhhhh......"
Judge: "Objection over ruled". ​

The burden is on the person making the claim, douchebag.

uber-douche, jillo says that the Salon article is true but cites no evidence to back up that statement.

Salon posts SHIT with no evidence to back it up.

In a Court of Law, it would go something like, "Objection, your Honor. Making claims not in evidence."

Judge, "Sustained."

You make the claim, you have to back it up. You don't back it up, then calling you a lying, scum-sucking, knob-slurping cultist has exactly as much weight behind it as your false claim.

More, in fact. Because that is exactly hat dimocrap scum are.... Lying, scum-sucking, knob slurping cultists.

Every bit of that Salon piece of shit was a complete and total lie except for #4. Which was only a partial lie.

 

[jillian]

No, ugly nutbar, it is up to you wingnuts to say why you disagree with the FACTS stated in the article.

If you are too stupid to do that, and can't manage to post without your usual trash talk - laced idiocy, maybe you should stay in the flame zone where you belong.

 

[Stephanie]

No, ugly nutbar, it is up to you wingnuts to say why you disagree with the FACTS stated in the article.

If you are too stupid to do that, and can't manage to post without your usual trash talk - laced idiocy, maybe you should stay in the flame zone where you belong.

wow, not only nasty but now a dictator of what we here on the board are SUPPOSE to..

why bother refuting a bunch of garbage..the only reason you posted it is for shit stirring purposes
all it showed is you have a ugly heart and soul

 

[Peach]

4 inconvenient facts conservatives conveniently ignore

1. The religious right started because of segregation, not abortion.

As Randall Balmer, a Darthmouth professor writing in Politico, explained in a recent article, the organized religious right started as a movement to protect white-only schools from federally mandated desegregation. As Balmer explains, there were many other attempts to rally evangelical Christians to become a conservative movement to support Republicans—“pornography, prayer in schools, the proposed Equal Rights Amendment to the Constitution, even abortion”—but none took. Under the guidance of Jerry Falwell, however, it was discovered that evangelical leaders would rally to keep black students out of private schools set up specifically so white kids didn’t have to go to desegregated public schools. Even though it was actually the Nixon administration that kickstarted the process of the IRS stripping tax-exempt status from “whites only” school, Falwell and his buddies blamed Jimmy Carter and used the issue to start rallying support for Ronald Reagan’s challenge. It was only after the evangelical right was organized that they started expanding into other issues, like abortion.

2. NRA used to support gun control.

The NRA is a gun industry lobby that likes to present itself as a “rights” group. With that level of deceit, no wonder many people, especially on the right, assume that the group has always existed to lobby against any restriction on access to firearms, or that gun control is a relatively new phenomenon only invented by pansy liberals in the past few decades. In reality, the government has been controlling access to guns for a long, long time. While there have been limits on gun ownership throughout the country’s history—often for sexist and racist reasons, such as bans on black people owning guns—the first modern federal gun control law passed in 1934, to stop the proliferation of automatic sub-machine guns that were popular with organized criminals. Prior to that, many states passed laws regulating guns, laws conservatives would reject today, such as waiting periods and requiring gun sellers to share information with police. The NRA actually helped write these laws.

And why not? The NRA was started as a marksman and sporting club, so there was no real reason to oppose gun control laws, until recent decades when it morphed into a lobby to protect the profits of gun manufacturers. Even as late as 1963, the NRA supported gun control laws. It was only as the culture wars began to build and the conservative movement developed that the NRA turned into the organization it is now, feeding paranoia and faux-patriotism to gullible conservatives in order to convince them to buy more guns.

3. Conservatives have always been the voting bloc to stop civil rights.

A lot of pundits and other charlatans like to deflect discussion of modern racism by claiming that Democrats were the ones who tried to stop the Civil Rights Act and Republicans were the ones who tried to pass it. Considering that it was a liberal Democrat—Lyndon B. Johnson—who signed the CRA, it’s clear that it was much more complicated than that. Yes, it’s true that some Democrats opposed the CRA and plenty of Republicans supported it. But the party lines were not drawn the same back then. Back then, both parties had a mix of liberals and conservatives, and since then, the parties have realigned, with all the conservatives—who voted against the CRA—stampeding to the Republican party and all the liberals—who voted for the CRA—running to the Democrats.

As Harry Enten, writing for the Guardian, notes, party was a poor predictor of a politician’s vote for the CRA in 1964. A far better predictor was state of origin. In the House, 90 percent of politicians from former Union states voted for it and only 8 percent of politicians from the South did. In the Senate, 92 percent of lawmakers from the Union states voted for the CRA, but only 5 percent—1 out of 22—of Southern senators did so. In other words, the votes against it came primarily from what we now consider the immovable “red” states—a permanent bloc of Republicans. And it was anger over the CRA that switched those previously Democratic states to Republican voters. The only states that voted for Barry Goldwater in 1964, besides Arizona,were Southern states.

Indeed, the best way to understand what happened in 1964 is that the CRA kicked off a process where the Republicans started to gather up all the conservative voters and Democrats expelled the racist vote but picked up all the liberals. Focusing on race instead of ideological leaning is a fundamentally dishonest tactic, when any honest assessment of the situation shows that the real divide was between conservatives and liberals, which remains the divide that governs our country today, even as the parties have rebranded themselves.

4. They were for Common Core before they were against it.

The most recent and possibly silliest about-face of the modern conservative movement has to be the turnaround on Common Core, a program initiated by the National Governors Association to standardize and elevate educational standards across the country. Originally, conservatives were indifferent to outright supportive of the program—many Republican governors considered themselves fans—and pretty much all the criticism came from people on the left, who were concerned that it would be used as cover for attacks on teacher’s unions and would favor “teach the test”-style memorization over actual education.

Then President Obama endorsed it in 2012. Immediately, the right decided that Common Core was a sinister conspiracy to shove liberal ideology down children’s throats (never mind that many educational experts on the left are against it). Liberals make measured criticisms of Common Core, saying it might squelch imagination and writing skills. Conservatives, on the other hand, have taken to accusing the Obama administration of using Common Core to steal children away and teach them to have sex and get divorced so they’ll vote for Democrats. A calm, rational discussion of the program is basically impossible, because the entire debate has been taken over by right-wing nuts who have forgotten that, a mere two years ago, they were cool with a program they now compare to Nazi indoctrination.

4 inconvenient facts conservatives conveniently ignore - Salon.com

I find this flawed; not all bigots are "religious", nor are all religious people bigoted.

 

[Stephanie]

You don't have to be religious to be a bigot...that is proved on here every day

 

[Andylusion]

No, ugly nutbar, it is up to you wingnuts to say why you disagree with the FACTS stated in the article.

If you are too stupid to do that, and can't manage to post without your usual trash talk - laced idiocy, maybe you should stay in the flame zone where you belong.

You don't realize just how stupid you look saying that?

Leftard:

"Everything I say is fact because I say it is! You have to prove me wrong!"

Really? That's it? If that's an argument, then why isn't "You are wrong, and everything you said is a lie, and you have to prove otherwise!" just as valid an argument?

 

[Misty]

I've said this a million times but I'll say it again. The republican party was started to end slavery it was the republicans that wrote the first civil rights act in the which the democrats would not consider.

"The Party was formally organized in July 1854 by thousands of anti-slavery activists at a convention in Jackson, Michigan. And it was no accident that two years later, in 1856, the first Republican National Convention took place in Philadelphia, where the Constitution was written."

Our History - GOP

"13th Amendment Freeing all the slaves, was passed by a Republican Congress, with unanimous opposition of the Democrats.
14th Amendment granting citizenship for former slaves and granting equal protection under by a Republican Congress, with unanimous opposition of the Democrats
15th Amendment, giving former slaves voting rights was passed by a Republican Congress, with near with unanimous opposition of the Democrats.
The First Hispanic Governor was a Republican--- Romualdo Pacheco (elected 1875)
Republicans Established Howard University for African Americans
The First African-American Senator was a Republican--- Hiram Revels
Republicans Outlawed the Ku Klux Klan – The 1871 Civil Rights Act passed by a Republican Congress, was aimed at the KKK. It crushed them and they did not rise again until the Democrat Administration of Woodrow Wilson.
Republicans Passed the 1875 Civil Rights Act--- Massachusetts Republican Senator Charles Sumner the original sponsor of the bill rallied support from his deathbed. Again a Republican Congress passed this law that banned discrimination in all public facilities. The Law was eventually struck down by SCOTUS. *And it was not until 1964 that Congress was able to pass these protections again.
A Former Slave Chaired the 1884 Republican National Convention--- former congressman, John Lynch
A Republican Wrote the 19th Amendment—This Amendment granted women the right to vote. Republican Senator Aaron Sargent authored it in 1878. For 4 decades the strongest opposition came from Democrats. And it was not until 1919, when a Republican Congress finally able to pass it.
First Women Mayors in the United States--- in 1887, Republican Susanna Salter was elected mayor of Argonia Kansas. *Republican Bertha Landes was elected the first woman mayor of a major U.S. City (Seattle) in * 1926.
First Woman elected to Congress --- Republican Jeanette Rankin Of Montana was the first woman elected to the House of Representatives in 1917."

https://sites.google.com/site/tomiolsonma/a-proud-legacy-of-inclusion

So, republicans are double-talking, double-dealing dirtballs. What else is new?

What have progressive democrats done for me, that I ever wanted in the first place, since Grover Cleveland?

So, republicans are double-talking, double-dealing dirtballs. What else is new?

What have progressive democrats done for me, that I ever wanted in the first place, since Grover Cleveland?

i'm not a progressive. i am a liberal.*

but that has nothing to do with you ignoring the facts in the o/p.

i have no issue with republicans. i can't abide people who abhor fact-based reality.

you're welcome.

 

[Stephanie]

progressives lie folks and they have no problems doing if it get them to their goals... so they will twist anything and everything to paint not only you the people in this country, but the Republican party as racist, wanting to hurt the poor, has some war on women, etc etc...It's right of the playbook of Saul Alinsky and they also learned it from communist

and now you see how far they will go with this nasty piece from the leftwing hate and propaganda site Salon which probably receives monies from their commie benefactor, George Soros
a lot of people needs to wake up to this

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

still waiting for one of the righties to point out what's untrue in the article.

lots of deflection though.

True.

And protesting too much.

Meanwhile, here’s yet another example of the right’s contempt for the Constitution, the rule of law, and the fundamental right of citizens to vote:

[Judge] Bernard L. McGinley of Commonwealth Court[]ruled that the law hampered the ability of hundreds of thousands of Pennsylvanians to cast their ballots, with the burden falling most heavily on elderly, disabled and low-income residents, and that the state’s reason for the law — that it was needed to combat voter fraud — was not supported by the facts.

“Voting laws are designed to assure a free and fair election,” the judge wrote in his 103-page decision. “The voter ID law does not further this goal.”

In addition, Judge McGinley ruled, the state’s $5 million campaign to explain the law had been full of misinformation that has never been corrected. He also said that the free IDs that were supposed to be made available to those without driver’s licenses or other approved photo identification were difficult and sometimes impossible to obtain.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/18/us/politics/pennsylvania-voter-id-law-struck-down.html

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I've said this a million times but I'll say it again. The republican party was started to end slavery it was the republicans that wrote the first civil rights act in the which the democrats would not consider.

"The Party was formally organized in July 1854 by thousands of anti-slavery activists at a convention in Jackson, Michigan. And it was no accident that two years later, in 1856, the first Republican National Convention took place in Philadelphia, where the Constitution was written."

Our History - GOP

"13th Amendment Freeing all the slaves, was passed by a Republican Congress, with unanimous opposition of the Democrats.
14th Amendment granting citizenship for former slaves and granting equal protection under by a Republican Congress, with unanimous opposition of the Democrats
15th Amendment, giving former slaves voting rights was passed by a Republican Congress, with near with unanimous opposition of the Democrats.
The First Hispanic Governor was a Republican--- Romualdo Pacheco (elected 1875)
Republicans Established Howard University for African Americans
The First African-American Senator was a Republican--- Hiram Revels
Republicans Outlawed the Ku Klux Klan – The 1871 Civil Rights Act passed by a Republican Congress, was aimed at the KKK. It crushed them and they did not rise again until the Democrat Administration of Woodrow Wilson.
Republicans Passed the 1875 Civil Rights Act--- Massachusetts Republican Senator Charles Sumner the original sponsor of the bill rallied support from his deathbed. Again a Republican Congress passed this law that banned discrimination in all public facilities. The Law was eventually struck down by SCOTUS. *And it was not until 1964 that Congress was able to pass these protections again.
A Former Slave Chaired the 1884 Republican National Convention--- former congressman, John Lynch
A Republican Wrote the 19th Amendment—This Amendment granted women the right to vote. Republican Senator Aaron Sargent authored it in 1878. For 4 decades the strongest opposition came from Democrats. And it was not until 1919, when a Republican Congress finally able to pass it.
First Women Mayors in the United States--- in 1887, Republican Susanna Salter was elected mayor of Argonia Kansas. *Republican Bertha Landes was elected the first woman mayor of a major U.S. City (Seattle) in * 1926.
First Woman elected to Congress --- Republican Jeanette Rankin Of Montana was the first woman elected to the House of Representatives in 1917."

https://sites.google.com/site/tomiolsonma/a-proud-legacy-of-inclusion

So, republicans are double-talking, double-dealing dirtballs. What else is new?

What have progressive democrats done for me, that I ever wanted in the first place, since Grover Cleveland?

So, republicans are double-talking, double-dealing dirtballs. What else is new?

What have progressive democrats done for me, that I ever wanted in the first place, since Grover Cleveland?

i'm not a progressive. i am a liberal.*

but that has nothing to do with you ignoring the facts in the o/p.

i have no issue with republicans. i can't abide people who abhor fact-based reality.

you're welcome.

“Yes, but what have you done lately”?

That republicans have to go back to 1868 to find civil rights advocacy to their credit is the problem; indeed, reprehensible now that conservatives for the most part seek to deny Americans their civil liberties today.

 

[theHawk]

Interesting claim that conservatives have chosen to ignore these "facts".


1. The religious right started because of segregation, not abortion.
I see, so if someone is religious and is against abortion, they are somehow associated with pro-segregationists now? Pretty far-fetched to make a connection with these two issues. In fact, most anti-abortionists I know are very upset about the fact that abortion is mainly targeted towards blacks.

In any case, it's pretty stupid to claim conservatives have ignored this "fact", when we've never even heard of this claim before.


2. NRA used to support gun control.
Who cares. My beliefs as a conservative that include the right to bear arms in order to protect myself, my family, and my property from criminals has nothing to do with some organization I have never been a member of, nor care to be.

So even if this claim is true, I have every right to ignore it and exorcise my 2nd amendment rights. I hope for your sake you are not arguing that since the NRA (allegedly) once supported gun control, that somehow makes the 2nd amendment nullified. That's beyond stupid.


3. Conservatives have always been the voting bloc to stop civil rights.
I think most everyone agrees that a democracy of any kind relies and a well-informed electorate. The founding fathers stated this many times. I think back when the civil rights movement was happening many people saw black people as uneducated and uninformed. Handing political power over to uninformed can be dangerous to a democratic society, I think that's why so many (Left and right), opposed it. I think when liberals saw that the uninformed helps their cause, they embraced the civil rights movement (after the fact).

Today, the liberal voting block is largely the most uninformed, which is why they are such a danger to the country.


4. They were for Common Core before they were against it.
Never even heard of Common Core before.

 

[DiamondDave]

1) Salon.com?? Seriously??
2) You assume much that is not true about 'the right' or conservatives, as does Salon
3) You used to be better than this shit, Jill.. you're stooping to the level of a wrongwinger

'conservatives' have 'always been against civil rights'... LMAO.. still rolling on the floor over that one... I guess liberals were always for slavery, and all liberals were pro nazi

idiotic jill... go back to how you used to post and debate and refrain from this winger site crapola

 

[jillian]

[MENTION=20424]Misty[/MENTION]. That Republican Party hasn't existed since the passage of the civil rights laws when all of our southern racist theocratic bigoted types became the GOP southern racist theocratic types.

The northeastern wing of the GOP was able to keep that stuff in check until Ronnie became president. Then baby bush let the wackos full in.

Now, so-called "conservatives" have always been at the forefront of denying people rights, whether by supporting segregation, opposing voting rights and on down the list. Have always opposed science because, well, if you believe in science, you must not trust G-d.

Thanks. But today's GOP is NOT Lincoln's GOP

 

[jillian]

1) Salon.com?? Seriously??
2) You assume much that is not true about 'the right' or conservatives, as does Salon
3) You used to be better than this shit, Jill.. you're stooping to the level of a wrongwinger

'conservatives' have 'always been against civil rights'... LMAO.. still rolling on the floor over that one... I guess liberals were always for slavery, and all liberals were pro nazi

idiotic jill... go back to how you used to post and debate and refrain from this winger site crapola

Idiotic, DD? Maybe the radical right should pull itself back over the edge it jumped off of when the black guy became president and I won't have to point out the insane fear of reality shown by the wingers

Sorry, Dave. What's idiotic is what the right pretends is truth these days.

And feel free to point out what's false in the article.

Oh, and the constant barrage of rightwingnut idiots hurling cusses at me and lying about me isn't about to increase my "respect" for them.

But go ahead, DD call the loons to task for their lies and trash mouths.

 

[koshergrl]

And wtf...the religious right *started*? I didn't even know it was a group. What they mean is they started LABELING Christians as *religious right* as a way to marginalize them in order to scare them away from progressive darlings like baby killing, old people killing, genetic engineering and state run religion. It became a by-word about 15-20 years.

But it never "started". That in and of itself makes the entire OP laughable.

Though the NRA whine is pretty funny too.

This belongs in the badlands, what a stupid thread.

 

[Dot Com]

I've said this a million times but I'll say it again. The republican party was started to end slavery it was the republicans that wrote the first civil rights act in the which the democrats would not consider.

"The Party was formally organized in July 1854 by thousands of anti-slavery activists at a convention in Jackson, Michigan. And it was no accident that two years later, in 1856, the first Republican National Convention took place in Philadelphia, where the Constitution was written."

Our History - GOP

"13th Amendment Freeing all the slaves, was passed by a Republican Congress, with unanimous opposition of the Democrats.
14th Amendment granting citizenship for former slaves and granting equal protection under by a Republican Congress, with unanimous opposition of the Democrats
15th Amendment, giving former slaves voting rights was passed by a Republican Congress, with near with unanimous opposition of the Democrats.
The First Hispanic Governor was a Republican--- Romualdo Pacheco (elected 1875)
Republicans Established Howard University for African Americans
The First African-American Senator was a Republican--- Hiram Revels
Republicans Outlawed the Ku Klux Klan – The 1871 Civil Rights Act passed by a Republican Congress, was aimed at the KKK. It crushed them and they did not rise again until the Democrat Administration of Woodrow Wilson.
Republicans Passed the 1875 Civil Rights Act--- Massachusetts Republican Senator Charles Sumner the original sponsor of the bill rallied support from his deathbed. Again a Republican Congress passed this law that banned discrimination in all public facilities. The Law was eventually struck down by SCOTUS. *And it was not until 1964 that Congress was able to pass these protections again.
A Former Slave Chaired the 1884 Republican National Convention--- former congressman, John Lynch
A Republican Wrote the 19th Amendment—This Amendment granted women the right to vote. Republican Senator Aaron Sargent authored it in 1878. For 4 decades the strongest opposition came from Democrats. And it was not until 1919, when a Republican Congress finally able to pass it.
First Women Mayors in the United States--- in 1887, Republican Susanna Salter was elected mayor of Argonia Kansas. *Republican Bertha Landes was elected the first woman mayor of a major U.S. City (Seattle) in * 1926.
First Woman elected to Congress --- Republican Jeanette Rankin Of Montana was the first woman elected to the House of Representatives in 1917."

https://sites.google.com/site/tomiolsonma/a-proud-legacy-of-inclusion

So, republicans are double-talking, double-dealing dirtballs. What else is new?

What have progressive democrats done for me, that I ever wanted in the first place, since Grover Cleveland?

i'm not a progressive. i am a liberal.*

but that has nothing to do with you ignoring the facts in the o/p.

i have no issue with republicans. i can't abide people who abhor fact-based reality.

you're welcome.

“Yes, but what have you done lately”?

That republicans have to go back to 1868 to find civil rights advocacy to their credit is the problem; indeed, reprehensible now that conservatives for the most part seek to deny Americans their civil liberties today.

yep

pro- voter disenfranchisement, Repubs always seem to CONVENIENTLY FORGET that they scrapped their demands for equal protection right around..... oh say...... 1964. Wonder if she, and others like her, know what occurred then [MENTION=20424]Misty[/MENTION]

 

[koshergrl]

Yeah, we have stated why we've disagreed, and you still have not provided any evidence.

I would like some evidence that the Religious Right exists as an organization. Please provide the evidence that the Religious Right was created, please.