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Bill let him go? Let's pretend for a moment that he did....Clinton always demanded more spending that what Congress had agreed to.
Yet Clinton had 4 surpluses, 3 surpluses after vetoing the GOP's $792+ billion tax cut from Newt. Go figure THEN we saw what "fiscal conservatives" were about when Dubya/GOP "job creator" policies were enacted right??? LOL
Repeat after me Clinton handed Bush Jr a mini recession and 9/11 happened
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According to the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER), which is the private, nonprofit, nonpartisan organization charged with determining economic recessions, the U.S. economy was in recession from March 2001 to November 2001, a period of eight months at the beginning of President George W. Bush's term of office. However, economic conditions did not satisfy the common shorthand definition of recession, which is "a fall of a country's real gross domestic product in two or more successive quarters," and has led to some confusion about the procedure for determining the starting and ending dates of a recession.
Early 2000s recession - Wikipedia
9/11? Oh right when Dubya was focusing on Iraq and ignoring the warnings from Clinton/Intel agencies
‘The Attacks Will Be Spectacular’
An exclusive look at how the Bush administration ignored this warning from the CIA months before 9/11, along with others that were far more detailed than previously revealed.
How the Bush administration ignored a significant warning from the CIA months before 9/11
Bill had bin laden yet let him go
Hell Hillary had him too, if she only would of killed him with her blackberry at the time....
View attachment 128018
Bin Laden wasn't flying a plane. 9.11 wasn't even his idea. Even had he been apprehended or killed, there's no indication the terrorists would have folded and not attacked us on 9.11.
I'll save him the trouble.... bear513 claims Obama was president since at least 2005, gave money to influence an election in Israel he knew nothing about, and spent only $9 trillion in 8 years.This is so true about liberals
7 Reasons Why Liberals Are Incapable of Understannding the wotld
To understand American politics, you have to understand this fundamental law: Conservatives think liberals are stupid. Liberals think conservatives are evil. —Charles Krauthammer
1) Liberalism creates a feedback loop. It is usually impossible for a non-liberal to change a liberal's mind about political issues because liberalism works like so: only liberals are credible sources of information. How do you know someone's liberal? He espouses liberal doctrine. So, no matter how plausible what you say may be, it will be ignored if you're not a liberal and if you are a liberal, of course, you probably agree with liberal views. This sort of close-mindedness makes liberals nearly impervious to any information that might undermine their beliefs.
2) Liberals sources of information are ever present. Conservatives are regularly exposed to the liberal viewpoint whether they want to be or not. That's not necessarily so for liberals. Imagine the average day for liberals. They get up and read their local newspaper. It has a liberal viewpoint. They take their kids to school, where the teachers are liberal. Then they go to work, listen to NPR which has a liberal viewpoint on the way home, and then turn on the nightly news which also skews leftward. From there, they turn on TV and watch shows created by liberals that lean to the left, if they have any political viewpoint at all. Unless liberals actively seek out conservative viewpoints, which is unlikely, the only conservative arguments they're probably going to hear are going to be through the heavily distorted, poorly translated, deeply skeptical lens of other liberals
3)Liberals emphasize feeling superior, not superior results.Liberalism is all about appearances, not outcomes. What matters to liberals is how a program makes them FEEL about themselves, not whether it works or not. Thus a program like Headstart, which sounds good because it's designed to help children read, makes liberals feel good about themselves, even though the program doesn't work and wastes billions
4) Liberals are big believers in moral relativism. This spins them round and round because if the only thing that's wrong is saying that there's an absolute moral code, then you lose your ability to tell cause from effect, good from bad, and right from wrong. Taking being non-judgmental to the level that liberals do leaves them paralyzed, pondering "why they hate us" because they feel incapable of saying, “That's wrong," and doing something about
5)Liberals tend to view people as parts of groups, not individuals. One of the prejudices of liberalism is that they see everyone as part of a group, not as an individual. This can lead to rather bizarre disparities when say, a man from a group that they consider to be powerless, impoverished victims becomes the leader of the free world -- and he's challenged by a group of lower middle class white people who've banded together because individually they're powerless.
6) Liberals take a dim view of personal responsibility. Who's at fault if a criminal commits a crime? The criminal or society? If someone creates a business and becomes a millionaire, is that the result of hard work and talent or luck? If you're dirt poor, starving, and haven't worked in 5 years, is that a personal failing or a failure of the state?
7) Liberals give themselves far too much credit just for being liberal.
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Liberals don't like conservatives like you because you copy and paste and lie. Krauthammer didn't make that list of seven items according to your link. And liberals also find opinions like yours irrelevant. Just more methane-based rhetoric.
Again what lie? Read this entire thread then call me.
.
Now WaitingFor2020's all caught up in 5 seconds.
Leave it to a moron to complain that folks bitch about a man bragging he's worth some $10 trillion and doesn't pay taxes.Over that period...You truly are proving yourself to be one of the dumbest posters on this forum.
That's it?? Only "9 trillion" was spent during eight years? Or are you just dumber than most conservatives?
In reality, in nominal figures and through to the end of FY2016, the number is closer to $28 trillion, not "$9 trillion"...
Government Spending Chart: United States 2000-2017 - Federal State Local Data
$9 trillion is the that minus federal revenues received.
And then recall that Obama can only approve to spend the money Congress asks him to spend, and Republicans controlled the House of Representatives for ¾ of his presidency. Clearly, that is a shared responsibility.
OK 28 trillion dollars what did you get out of it?
My household income is up about 135%.
The value of home is up about 60%.
The valuation of my and my wife's 401K is up some 200%.
I ain't complaining.
Ah, yes, the sequester.And are you still going to let Obama take credit for the sequester?
Both parties blamed the other for the implementation of the sequester, which resulted as a failure to pass a budget -- and then both parties took credit for the drop in the deficit which resulted from it.
So you are a hedge fund manager good for you.
So why you bitching at Trump by playing and beating the tax laws?
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Yet your bragging you did OK with quantitative easing... Which every one else (and you ) have to pay the interest on.
Well just like Obama gave money to influence an election that hadn't been announced yet, but Obama somehow knew about it anyway -- Clinton somehow should have known that OBL would commit crimes against the U.S..Clinton always demanded more spending that what Congress had agreed to.
Yet Clinton had 4 surpluses, 3 surpluses after vetoing the GOP's $792+ billion tax cut from Newt. Go figure THEN we saw what "fiscal conservatives" were about when Dubya/GOP "job creator" policies were enacted right??? LOL
Repeat after me Clinton handed Bush Jr a mini recession and 9/11 happened
.
According to the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER), which is the private, nonprofit, nonpartisan organization charged with determining economic recessions, the U.S. economy was in recession from March 2001 to November 2001, a period of eight months at the beginning of President George W. Bush's term of office. However, economic conditions did not satisfy the common shorthand definition of recession, which is "a fall of a country's real gross domestic product in two or more successive quarters," and has led to some confusion about the procedure for determining the starting and ending dates of a recession.
Early 2000s recession - Wikipedia
9/11? Oh right when Dubya was focusing on Iraq and ignoring the warnings from Clinton/Intel agencies
‘The Attacks Will Be Spectacular’
An exclusive look at how the Bush administration ignored this warning from the CIA months before 9/11, along with others that were far more detailed than previously revealed.
How the Bush administration ignored a significant warning from the CIA months before 9/11
Bill had bin laden yet let him go
Hell Hillary had him too, if she only would of killed him with her blackberry at the time....
View attachment 128018
Again, without false premises, distortions and lies what would we have from the guys preaching "self responsibility"?
Q: Did Bill Clinton pass up a chance to kill Osama bin Laden?
A: Probably not, and it would not have mattered anyway as there was no evidence at the time that bin Laden had committed any crimes against American citizens.
Clinton Passed on Killing bin Laden? - FactCheck.org
I'll save him the trouble.... bear513 claims Obama was president since at least 2005, gave money to influence an election in Israel he knew nothing about, and spent only $9 trillion in 8 years.This is so true about liberals
7 Reasons Why Liberals Are Incapable of Understannding the wotld
To understand American politics, you have to understand this fundamental law: Conservatives think liberals are stupid. Liberals think conservatives are evil. —Charles Krauthammer
1) Liberalism creates a feedback loop. It is usually impossible for a non-liberal to change a liberal's mind about political issues because liberalism works like so: only liberals are credible sources of information. How do you know someone's liberal? He espouses liberal doctrine. So, no matter how plausible what you say may be, it will be ignored if you're not a liberal and if you are a liberal, of course, you probably agree with liberal views. This sort of close-mindedness makes liberals nearly impervious to any information that might undermine their beliefs.
2) Liberals sources of information are ever present. Conservatives are regularly exposed to the liberal viewpoint whether they want to be or not. That's not necessarily so for liberals. Imagine the average day for liberals. They get up and read their local newspaper. It has a liberal viewpoint. They take their kids to school, where the teachers are liberal. Then they go to work, listen to NPR which has a liberal viewpoint on the way home, and then turn on the nightly news which also skews leftward. From there, they turn on TV and watch shows created by liberals that lean to the left, if they have any political viewpoint at all. Unless liberals actively seek out conservative viewpoints, which is unlikely, the only conservative arguments they're probably going to hear are going to be through the heavily distorted, poorly translated, deeply skeptical lens of other liberals
3)Liberals emphasize feeling superior, not superior results.Liberalism is all about appearances, not outcomes. What matters to liberals is how a program makes them FEEL about themselves, not whether it works or not. Thus a program like Headstart, which sounds good because it's designed to help children read, makes liberals feel good about themselves, even though the program doesn't work and wastes billions
4) Liberals are big believers in moral relativism. This spins them round and round because if the only thing that's wrong is saying that there's an absolute moral code, then you lose your ability to tell cause from effect, good from bad, and right from wrong. Taking being non-judgmental to the level that liberals do leaves them paralyzed, pondering "why they hate us" because they feel incapable of saying, “That's wrong," and doing something about
5)Liberals tend to view people as parts of groups, not individuals. One of the prejudices of liberalism is that they see everyone as part of a group, not as an individual. This can lead to rather bizarre disparities when say, a man from a group that they consider to be powerless, impoverished victims becomes the leader of the free world -- and he's challenged by a group of lower middle class white people who've banded together because individually they're powerless.
6) Liberals take a dim view of personal responsibility. Who's at fault if a criminal commits a crime? The criminal or society? If someone creates a business and becomes a millionaire, is that the result of hard work and talent or luck? If you're dirt poor, starving, and haven't worked in 5 years, is that a personal failing or a failure of the state?
7) Liberals give themselves far too much credit just for being liberal.
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Liberals don't like conservatives like you because you copy and paste and lie. Krauthammer didn't make that list of seven items according to your link. And liberals also find opinions like yours irrelevant. Just more methane-based rhetoric.
Again what lie? Read this entire thread then call me.
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Now WaitingFor2020's all caught up in 5 seconds.
As far as I'm concerned, Krauthammer is wrong anyway. I don't think conservatives are evil -- I think they are mind-numbingly stupid beyond all repair. Not all, mind you -- but in general.This is so true about liberals
7 Reasons Why Liberals Are Incapable of Understannding the wotld
To understand American politics, you have to understand this fundamental law: Conservatives think liberals are stupid. Liberals think conservatives are evil. —Charles Krauthammer
1) Liberalism creates a feedback loop. It is usually impossible for a non-liberal to change a liberal's mind about political issues because liberalism works like so: only liberals are credible sources of information. How do you know someone's liberal? He espouses liberal doctrine. So, no matter how plausible what you say may be, it will be ignored if you're not a liberal and if you are a liberal, of course, you probably agree with liberal views. This sort of close-mindedness makes liberals nearly impervious to any information that might undermine their beliefs.
2) Liberals sources of information are ever present. Conservatives are regularly exposed to the liberal viewpoint whether they want to be or not. That's not necessarily so for liberals. Imagine the average day for liberals. They get up and read their local newspaper. It has a liberal viewpoint. They take their kids to school, where the teachers are liberal. Then they go to work, listen to NPR which has a liberal viewpoint on the way home, and then turn on the nightly news which also skews leftward. From there, they turn on TV and watch shows created by liberals that lean to the left, if they have any political viewpoint at all. Unless liberals actively seek out conservative viewpoints, which is unlikely, the only conservative arguments they're probably going to hear are going to be through the heavily distorted, poorly translated, deeply skeptical lens of other liberals
3)Liberals emphasize feeling superior, not superior results.Liberalism is all about appearances, not outcomes. What matters to liberals is how a program makes them FEEL about themselves, not whether it works or not. Thus a program like Headstart, which sounds good because it's designed to help children read, makes liberals feel good about themselves, even though the program doesn't work and wastes billions
4) Liberals are big believers in moral relativism. This spins them round and round because if the only thing that's wrong is saying that there's an absolute moral code, then you lose your ability to tell cause from effect, good from bad, and right from wrong. Taking being non-judgmental to the level that liberals do leaves them paralyzed, pondering "why they hate us" because they feel incapable of saying, “That's wrong," and doing something about
5)Liberals tend to view people as parts of groups, not individuals. One of the prejudices of liberalism is that they see everyone as part of a group, not as an individual. This can lead to rather bizarre disparities when say, a man from a group that they consider to be powerless, impoverished victims becomes the leader of the free world -- and he's challenged by a group of lower middle class white people who've banded together because individually they're powerless.
6) Liberals take a dim view of personal responsibility. Who's at fault if a criminal commits a crime? The criminal or society? If someone creates a business and becomes a millionaire, is that the result of hard work and talent or luck? If you're dirt poor, starving, and haven't worked in 5 years, is that a personal failing or a failure of the state?
7) Liberals give themselves far too much credit just for being liberal.
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Liberals don't like conservatives like you because you copy and paste and lie. Krauthammer didn't make that list of seven items according to your link. And liberals also find opinions like yours irrelevant. Just more methane-based rhetoric.
Again what lie? Read this entire thread then call me.
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Calling you....a liar. Krauthammer didn't write that list.
This is the entire content of the link:
"1) To understand the workings of American politics, you have to understand this fundamental law: Conservatives think liberals are stupid. Liberals think conservatives are evil. — Charles Krauthammer""
IF conservatives are so fucking right, why do you have to twist and spin?
Bill let him go? Let's pretend for a moment that he did....Yet Clinton had 4 surpluses, 3 surpluses after vetoing the GOP's $792+ billion tax cut from Newt. Go figure THEN we saw what "fiscal conservatives" were about when Dubya/GOP "job creator" policies were enacted right??? LOL
Repeat after me Clinton handed Bush Jr a mini recession and 9/11 happened
.
According to the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER), which is the private, nonprofit, nonpartisan organization charged with determining economic recessions, the U.S. economy was in recession from March 2001 to November 2001, a period of eight months at the beginning of President George W. Bush's term of office. However, economic conditions did not satisfy the common shorthand definition of recession, which is "a fall of a country's real gross domestic product in two or more successive quarters," and has led to some confusion about the procedure for determining the starting and ending dates of a recession.
Early 2000s recession - Wikipedia
9/11? Oh right when Dubya was focusing on Iraq and ignoring the warnings from Clinton/Intel agencies
‘The Attacks Will Be Spectacular’
An exclusive look at how the Bush administration ignored this warning from the CIA months before 9/11, along with others that were far more detailed than previously revealed.
How the Bush administration ignored a significant warning from the CIA months before 9/11
Bill had bin laden yet let him go
Hell Hillary had him too, if she only would of killed him with her blackberry at the time....
View attachment 128018
Bin Laden wasn't flying a plane. 9.11 wasn't even his idea. Even had he been apprehended or killed, there's no indication the terrorists would have folded and not attacked us on 9.11.
Where would they have got the money from?
Where opening up a new can of worms here though.
Btw my mistake, I keep on thinking the 1st world trade center happened on Bush SR for some reason.
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Faun said:Well just like Obama gave money to influence an election that hadn't been announced yet, but Obama somehow knew about it anyway -- Clinton somehow should have known that OBL would commit crimes against the U.S..Yet Clinton had 4 surpluses, 3 surpluses after vetoing the GOP's $792+ billion tax cut from Newt. Go figure THEN we saw what "fiscal conservatives" were about when Dubya/GOP "job creator" policies were enacted right??? LOL
Repeat after me Clinton handed Bush Jr a mini recession and 9/11 happened
.
According to the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER), which is the private, nonprofit, nonpartisan organization charged with determining economic recessions, the U.S. economy was in recession from March 2001 to November 2001, a period of eight months at the beginning of President George W. Bush's term of office. However, economic conditions did not satisfy the common shorthand definition of recession, which is "a fall of a country's real gross domestic product in two or more successive quarters," and has led to some confusion about the procedure for determining the starting and ending dates of a recession.
Early 2000s recession - Wikipedia
9/11? Oh right when Dubya was focusing on Iraq and ignoring the warnings from Clinton/Intel agencies
‘The Attacks Will Be Spectacular’
An exclusive look at how the Bush administration ignored this warning from the CIA months before 9/11, along with others that were far more detailed than previously revealed.
How the Bush administration ignored a significant warning from the CIA months before 9/11
Bill had bin laden yet let him go
Hell Hillary had him too, if she only would of killed him with her blackberry at the time....
View attachment 128018
Again, without false premises, distortions and lies what would we have from the guys preaching "self responsibility"?
Q: Did Bill Clinton pass up a chance to kill Osama bin Laden?
A: Probably not, and it would not have mattered anyway as there was no evidence at the time that bin Laden had committed any crimes against American citizens.
Clinton Passed on Killing bin Laden? - FactCheck.org
As far as I'm concerned, Krauthammer is wrong anyway. I don't think conservatives are evil -- I think they are mind-numbingly stupid beyond all repair. Not all, mind you -- but in general.This is so true about liberals
7 Reasons Why Liberals Are Incapable of Understannding the wotld
To understand American politics, you have to understand this fundamental law: Conservatives think liberals are stupid. Liberals think conservatives are evil. —Charles Krauthammer
1) Liberalism creates a feedback loop. It is usually impossible for a non-liberal to change a liberal's mind about political issues because liberalism works like so: only liberals are credible sources of information. How do you know someone's liberal? He espouses liberal doctrine. So, no matter how plausible what you say may be, it will be ignored if you're not a liberal and if you are a liberal, of course, you probably agree with liberal views. This sort of close-mindedness makes liberals nearly impervious to any information that might undermine their beliefs.
2) Liberals sources of information are ever present. Conservatives are regularly exposed to the liberal viewpoint whether they want to be or not. That's not necessarily so for liberals. Imagine the average day for liberals. They get up and read their local newspaper. It has a liberal viewpoint. They take their kids to school, where the teachers are liberal. Then they go to work, listen to NPR which has a liberal viewpoint on the way home, and then turn on the nightly news which also skews leftward. From there, they turn on TV and watch shows created by liberals that lean to the left, if they have any political viewpoint at all. Unless liberals actively seek out conservative viewpoints, which is unlikely, the only conservative arguments they're probably going to hear are going to be through the heavily distorted, poorly translated, deeply skeptical lens of other liberals
3)Liberals emphasize feeling superior, not superior results.Liberalism is all about appearances, not outcomes. What matters to liberals is how a program makes them FEEL about themselves, not whether it works or not. Thus a program like Headstart, which sounds good because it's designed to help children read, makes liberals feel good about themselves, even though the program doesn't work and wastes billions
4) Liberals are big believers in moral relativism. This spins them round and round because if the only thing that's wrong is saying that there's an absolute moral code, then you lose your ability to tell cause from effect, good from bad, and right from wrong. Taking being non-judgmental to the level that liberals do leaves them paralyzed, pondering "why they hate us" because they feel incapable of saying, “That's wrong," and doing something about
5)Liberals tend to view people as parts of groups, not individuals. One of the prejudices of liberalism is that they see everyone as part of a group, not as an individual. This can lead to rather bizarre disparities when say, a man from a group that they consider to be powerless, impoverished victims becomes the leader of the free world -- and he's challenged by a group of lower middle class white people who've banded together because individually they're powerless.
6) Liberals take a dim view of personal responsibility. Who's at fault if a criminal commits a crime? The criminal or society? If someone creates a business and becomes a millionaire, is that the result of hard work and talent or luck? If you're dirt poor, starving, and haven't worked in 5 years, is that a personal failing or a failure of the state?
7) Liberals give themselves far too much credit just for being liberal.
.
Liberals don't like conservatives like you because you copy and paste and lie. Krauthammer didn't make that list of seven items according to your link. And liberals also find opinions like yours irrelevant. Just more methane-based rhetoric.
Again what lie? Read this entire thread then call me.
.
Calling you....a liar. Krauthammer didn't write that list.
This is the entire content of the link:
"1) To understand the workings of American politics, you have to understand this fundamental law: Conservatives think liberals are stupid. Liberals think conservatives are evil. — Charles Krauthammer""
IF conservatives are so fucking right, why do you have to twist and spin?
bear513 being a prime example.
As far as I'm concerned, Krauthammer is wrong anyway. I don't think conservatives are evil -- I think they are mind-numbingly stupid beyond all repair. Not all, mind you -- but in general.This is so true about liberals
7 Reasons Why Liberals Are Incapable of Understannding the wotld
To understand American politics, you have to understand this fundamental law: Conservatives think liberals are stupid. Liberals think conservatives are evil. —Charles Krauthammer
1) Liberalism creates a feedback loop. It is usually impossible for a non-liberal to change a liberal's mind about political issues because liberalism works like so: only liberals are credible sources of information. How do you know someone's liberal? He espouses liberal doctrine. So, no matter how plausible what you say may be, it will be ignored if you're not a liberal and if you are a liberal, of course, you probably agree with liberal views. This sort of close-mindedness makes liberals nearly impervious to any information that might undermine their beliefs.
2) Liberals sources of information are ever present. Conservatives are regularly exposed to the liberal viewpoint whether they want to be or not. That's not necessarily so for liberals. Imagine the average day for liberals. They get up and read their local newspaper. It has a liberal viewpoint. They take their kids to school, where the teachers are liberal. Then they go to work, listen to NPR which has a liberal viewpoint on the way home, and then turn on the nightly news which also skews leftward. From there, they turn on TV and watch shows created by liberals that lean to the left, if they have any political viewpoint at all. Unless liberals actively seek out conservative viewpoints, which is unlikely, the only conservative arguments they're probably going to hear are going to be through the heavily distorted, poorly translated, deeply skeptical lens of other liberals
3)Liberals emphasize feeling superior, not superior results.Liberalism is all about appearances, not outcomes. What matters to liberals is how a program makes them FEEL about themselves, not whether it works or not. Thus a program like Headstart, which sounds good because it's designed to help children read, makes liberals feel good about themselves, even though the program doesn't work and wastes billions
4) Liberals are big believers in moral relativism. This spins them round and round because if the only thing that's wrong is saying that there's an absolute moral code, then you lose your ability to tell cause from effect, good from bad, and right from wrong. Taking being non-judgmental to the level that liberals do leaves them paralyzed, pondering "why they hate us" because they feel incapable of saying, “That's wrong," and doing something about
5)Liberals tend to view people as parts of groups, not individuals. One of the prejudices of liberalism is that they see everyone as part of a group, not as an individual. This can lead to rather bizarre disparities when say, a man from a group that they consider to be powerless, impoverished victims becomes the leader of the free world -- and he's challenged by a group of lower middle class white people who've banded together because individually they're powerless.
6) Liberals take a dim view of personal responsibility. Who's at fault if a criminal commits a crime? The criminal or society? If someone creates a business and becomes a millionaire, is that the result of hard work and talent or luck? If you're dirt poor, starving, and haven't worked in 5 years, is that a personal failing or a failure of the state?
7) Liberals give themselves far too much credit just for being liberal.
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Liberals don't like conservatives like you because you copy and paste and lie. Krauthammer didn't make that list of seven items according to your link. And liberals also find opinions like yours irrelevant. Just more methane-based rhetoric.
Again what lie? Read this entire thread then call me.
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Calling you....a liar. Krauthammer didn't write that list.
This is the entire content of the link:
"1) To understand the workings of American politics, you have to understand this fundamental law: Conservatives think liberals are stupid. Liberals think conservatives are evil. — Charles Krauthammer""
IF conservatives are so fucking right, why do you have to twist and spin?
bear513 being a prime example.
So you say.Unlike when Bush left the White House, there was no recession when he entered it. And 9.11, which possibly contributed to the 2001 recession being a recession, occurred on Dubya's watch while he was asleep at the wheel.What he did was spend less than he took in
Clinton always demanded more spending that what Congress had agreed to.
Yet Clinton had 4 surpluses, 3 surpluses after vetoing the GOP's $792+ billion tax cut from Newt. Go figure THEN we saw what "fiscal conservatives" were about when Dubya/GOP "job creator" policies were enacted right??? LOL
Repeat after me Clinton handed Bush Jr a mini recession and 9/11 happened
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It started in 1999 people were on strike , I was a maintenance manager at a plastic company getting supplies was getting bad...well up in Chicago
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As far as I'm concerned, Krauthammer is wrong anyway. I don't think conservatives are evil -- I think they are mind-numbingly stupid beyond all repair. Not all, mind you -- but in general.This is so true about liberals
7 Reasons Why Liberals Are Incapable of Understannding the wotld
To understand American politics, you have to understand this fundamental law: Conservatives think liberals are stupid. Liberals think conservatives are evil. —Charles Krauthammer
1) Liberalism creates a feedback loop. It is usually impossible for a non-liberal to change a liberal's mind about political issues because liberalism works like so: only liberals are credible sources of information. How do you know someone's liberal? He espouses liberal doctrine. So, no matter how plausible what you say may be, it will be ignored if you're not a liberal and if you are a liberal, of course, you probably agree with liberal views. This sort of close-mindedness makes liberals nearly impervious to any information that might undermine their beliefs.
2) Liberals sources of information are ever present. Conservatives are regularly exposed to the liberal viewpoint whether they want to be or not. That's not necessarily so for liberals. Imagine the average day for liberals. They get up and read their local newspaper. It has a liberal viewpoint. They take their kids to school, where the teachers are liberal. Then they go to work, listen to NPR which has a liberal viewpoint on the way home, and then turn on the nightly news which also skews leftward. From there, they turn on TV and watch shows created by liberals that lean to the left, if they have any political viewpoint at all. Unless liberals actively seek out conservative viewpoints, which is unlikely, the only conservative arguments they're probably going to hear are going to be through the heavily distorted, poorly translated, deeply skeptical lens of other liberals
3)Liberals emphasize feeling superior, not superior results.Liberalism is all about appearances, not outcomes. What matters to liberals is how a program makes them FEEL about themselves, not whether it works or not. Thus a program like Headstart, which sounds good because it's designed to help children read, makes liberals feel good about themselves, even though the program doesn't work and wastes billions
4) Liberals are big believers in moral relativism. This spins them round and round because if the only thing that's wrong is saying that there's an absolute moral code, then you lose your ability to tell cause from effect, good from bad, and right from wrong. Taking being non-judgmental to the level that liberals do leaves them paralyzed, pondering "why they hate us" because they feel incapable of saying, “That's wrong," and doing something about
5)Liberals tend to view people as parts of groups, not individuals. One of the prejudices of liberalism is that they see everyone as part of a group, not as an individual. This can lead to rather bizarre disparities when say, a man from a group that they consider to be powerless, impoverished victims becomes the leader of the free world -- and he's challenged by a group of lower middle class white people who've banded together because individually they're powerless.
6) Liberals take a dim view of personal responsibility. Who's at fault if a criminal commits a crime? The criminal or society? If someone creates a business and becomes a millionaire, is that the result of hard work and talent or luck? If you're dirt poor, starving, and haven't worked in 5 years, is that a personal failing or a failure of the state?
7) Liberals give themselves far too much credit just for being liberal.
.
Liberals don't like conservatives like you because you copy and paste and lie. Krauthammer didn't make that list of seven items according to your link. And liberals also find opinions like yours irrelevant. Just more methane-based rhetoric.
Again what lie? Read this entire thread then call me.
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Calling you....a liar. Krauthammer didn't write that list.
This is the entire content of the link:
"1) To understand the workings of American politics, you have to understand this fundamental law: Conservatives think liberals are stupid. Liberals think conservatives are evil. — Charles Krauthammer""
IF conservatives are so fucking right, why do you have to twist and spin?
bear513 being a prime example.
So? Many of us got something out of it. Shit, Bush nearly doubled the debt as well and few got anything out of that.Leave it to a moron to complain that folks bitch about a man bragging he's worth some $10 trillion and doesn't pay taxes.Over that period...You truly are proving yourself to be one of the dumbest posters on this forum.
That's it?? Only "9 trillion" was spent during eight years? Or are you just dumber than most conservatives?
In reality, in nominal figures and through to the end of FY2016, the number is closer to $28 trillion, not "$9 trillion"...
Government Spending Chart: United States 2000-2017 - Federal State Local Data
$9 trillion is the that minus federal revenues received.
And then recall that Obama can only approve to spend the money Congress asks him to spend, and Republicans controlled the House of Representatives for ¾ of his presidency. Clearly, that is a shared responsibility.
OK 28 trillion dollars what did you get out of it?
My household income is up about 135%.
The value of home is up about 60%.
The valuation of my and my wife's 401K is up some 200%.
I ain't complaining.
Ah, yes, the sequester.And are you still going to let Obama take credit for the sequester?
Both parties blamed the other for the implementation of the sequester, which resulted as a failure to pass a budget -- and then both parties took credit for the drop in the deficit which resulted from it.
So you are a hedge fund manager good for you.
So why you bitching at Trump by playing and beating the tax laws?
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Yet your bragging you did OK with quantitative easing... Which every one else (and you ) have to pay the interest on.
So you say.Unlike when Bush left the White House, there was no recession when he entered it. And 9.11, which possibly contributed to the 2001 recession being a recession, occurred on Dubya's watch while he was asleep at the wheel.Clinton always demanded more spending that what Congress had agreed to.
Yet Clinton had 4 surpluses, 3 surpluses after vetoing the GOP's $792+ billion tax cut from Newt. Go figure THEN we saw what "fiscal conservatives" were about when Dubya/GOP "job creator" policies were enacted right??? LOL
Repeat after me Clinton handed Bush Jr a mini recession and 9/11 happened
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It started in 1999 people were on strike , I was a maintenance manager at a plastic company getting supplies was getting bad...well up in Chicago
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GDP, unemployment, and inflation; which define a recession, say something entirely different. That's not to say some sectors weren't hit earlier than others, as you claim yours was, but as a nation, the recession didn't start until March of 2001, after Bush became president. And even then, the recession was so mild, it possibly would not have been declared a recession if not for 9.11.
You are painfully retarded. First, how much do you think it cost them to plan, prepare and execute 9.11??Bill let him go? Let's pretend for a moment that he did....Yet Clinton had 4 surpluses, 3 surpluses after vetoing the GOP's $792+ billion tax cut from Newt. Go figure THEN we saw what "fiscal conservatives" were about when Dubya/GOP "job creator" policies were enacted right??? LOL
Repeat after me Clinton handed Bush Jr a mini recession and 9/11 happened
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According to the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER), which is the private, nonprofit, nonpartisan organization charged with determining economic recessions, the U.S. economy was in recession from March 2001 to November 2001, a period of eight months at the beginning of President George W. Bush's term of office. However, economic conditions did not satisfy the common shorthand definition of recession, which is "a fall of a country's real gross domestic product in two or more successive quarters," and has led to some confusion about the procedure for determining the starting and ending dates of a recession.
Early 2000s recession - Wikipedia
9/11? Oh right when Dubya was focusing on Iraq and ignoring the warnings from Clinton/Intel agencies
‘The Attacks Will Be Spectacular’
An exclusive look at how the Bush administration ignored this warning from the CIA months before 9/11, along with others that were far more detailed than previously revealed.
How the Bush administration ignored a significant warning from the CIA months before 9/11
Bill had bin laden yet let him go
Hell Hillary had him too, if she only would of killed him with her blackberry at the time....
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Bin Laden wasn't flying a plane. 9.11 wasn't even his idea. Even had he been apprehended or killed, there's no indication the terrorists would have folded and not attacked us on 9.11.
Where would they have got the money from?
Where opening up a new can of worms here though.
Btw my mistake, I keep on thinking the 1st world trade center happened on Bush SR for some reason.
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So? Many of us got something out of it. Shit, Bush nearly doubled the debt as well and few got anything out of that.Leave it to a moron to complain that folks bitch about a man bragging he's worth some $10 trillion and doesn't pay taxes.Over that period...OK 28 trillion dollars what did you get out of it?
My household income is up about 135%.
The value of home is up about 60%.
The valuation of my and my wife's 401K is up some 200%.
I ain't complaining.
Ah, yes, the sequester.And are you still going to let Obama take credit for the sequester?
Both parties blamed the other for the implementation of the sequester, which resulted as a failure to pass a budget -- and then both parties took credit for the drop in the deficit which resulted from it.
So you are a hedge fund manager good for you.
So why you bitching at Trump by playing and beating the tax laws?
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Yet your bragging you did OK with quantitative easing... Which every one else (and you ) have to pay the interest on.
WTF? Which of those did I mischaracterize?I'll save him the trouble.... bear513 claims Obama was president since at least 2005, gave money to influence an election in Israel he knew nothing about, and spent only $9 trillion in 8 years.This is so true about liberals
7 Reasons Why Liberals Are Incapable of Understannding the wotld
To understand American politics, you have to understand this fundamental law: Conservatives think liberals are stupid. Liberals think conservatives are evil. —Charles Krauthammer
1) Liberalism creates a feedback loop. It is usually impossible for a non-liberal to change a liberal's mind about political issues because liberalism works like so: only liberals are credible sources of information. How do you know someone's liberal? He espouses liberal doctrine. So, no matter how plausible what you say may be, it will be ignored if you're not a liberal and if you are a liberal, of course, you probably agree with liberal views. This sort of close-mindedness makes liberals nearly impervious to any information that might undermine their beliefs.
2) Liberals sources of information are ever present. Conservatives are regularly exposed to the liberal viewpoint whether they want to be or not. That's not necessarily so for liberals. Imagine the average day for liberals. They get up and read their local newspaper. It has a liberal viewpoint. They take their kids to school, where the teachers are liberal. Then they go to work, listen to NPR which has a liberal viewpoint on the way home, and then turn on the nightly news which also skews leftward. From there, they turn on TV and watch shows created by liberals that lean to the left, if they have any political viewpoint at all. Unless liberals actively seek out conservative viewpoints, which is unlikely, the only conservative arguments they're probably going to hear are going to be through the heavily distorted, poorly translated, deeply skeptical lens of other liberals
3)Liberals emphasize feeling superior, not superior results.Liberalism is all about appearances, not outcomes. What matters to liberals is how a program makes them FEEL about themselves, not whether it works or not. Thus a program like Headstart, which sounds good because it's designed to help children read, makes liberals feel good about themselves, even though the program doesn't work and wastes billions
4) Liberals are big believers in moral relativism. This spins them round and round because if the only thing that's wrong is saying that there's an absolute moral code, then you lose your ability to tell cause from effect, good from bad, and right from wrong. Taking being non-judgmental to the level that liberals do leaves them paralyzed, pondering "why they hate us" because they feel incapable of saying, “That's wrong," and doing something about
5)Liberals tend to view people as parts of groups, not individuals. One of the prejudices of liberalism is that they see everyone as part of a group, not as an individual. This can lead to rather bizarre disparities when say, a man from a group that they consider to be powerless, impoverished victims becomes the leader of the free world -- and he's challenged by a group of lower middle class white people who've banded together because individually they're powerless.
6) Liberals take a dim view of personal responsibility. Who's at fault if a criminal commits a crime? The criminal or society? If someone creates a business and becomes a millionaire, is that the result of hard work and talent or luck? If you're dirt poor, starving, and haven't worked in 5 years, is that a personal failing or a failure of the state?
7) Liberals give themselves far too much credit just for being liberal.
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Liberals don't like conservatives like you because you copy and paste and lie. Krauthammer didn't make that list of seven items according to your link. And liberals also find opinions like yours irrelevant. Just more methane-based rhetoric.
Again what lie? Read this entire thread then call me.
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Now WaitingFor2020's all caught up in 5 seconds.
What did you just do a line?
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WTF??Leave it to a moron to complain that folks bitch about a man bragging he's worth some $10 trillion and doesn't pay taxes.Over that period...OK 28 trillion dollars what did you get out of it?
My household income is up about 135%.
The value of home is up about 60%.
The valuation of my and my wife's 401K is up some 200%.
I ain't complaining.
Ah, yes, the sequester.And are you still going to let Obama take credit for the sequester?
Both parties blamed the other for the implementation of the sequester, which resulted as a failure to pass a budget -- and then both parties took credit for the drop in the deficit which resulted from it.
So you are a hedge fund manager good for you.
So why you bitching at Trump by playing and beating the tax laws?
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Yet your bragging you did OK with quantitative easing... Which every one else (and you ) have to pay the interest on.
Why you changing the subject?
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As far as I'm concerned, Krauthammer is wrong anyway. I don't think conservatives are evil -- I think they are mind-numbingly stupid beyond all repair. Not all, mind you -- but in general.Liberals don't like conservatives like you because you copy and paste and lie. Krauthammer didn't make that list of seven items according to your link. And liberals also find opinions like yours irrelevant. Just more methane-based rhetoric.
Again what lie? Read this entire thread then call me.
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Calling you....a liar. Krauthammer didn't write that list.
This is the entire content of the link:
"1) To understand the workings of American politics, you have to understand this fundamental law: Conservatives think liberals are stupid. Liberals think conservatives are evil. — Charles Krauthammer""
IF conservatives are so fucking right, why do you have to twist and spin?
bear513 being a prime example.
Read it and weep
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