A few questions for the fundies

[Taz]

Meaning that if I don't like what I see, your god is toast, because your god can only exist if people believe that it exists, because there's no actual real proof that your god exists, let alone said anything attributed to it in the bible.

Let's see if we have this straight. You believe that God is accountable to you because you can create Him and destroy Him at will. Naturally, this means that you consider yourself to be greater than the one who created you, because you created Him and can destroy Him. And you think my position is ludicrous?

Man DID create your god. Do you have any proof to contradict that statement?

Are you finally ready to admit that there is no one able to hold God accountable to anything? Because you can't say He is accountable to you AND that He doesn't exist.

Like I said, since man made your god, man can hold it accountable if we want to. Like if I build a house and it turns out crappy, I can knock it down and start over again. man made = accountable to man.

You can create your own creator. Wow.

Why not? Christians made theirs, Muslims...

I have a question for you: why do you think that the bible is the word of god?

 

[Taz]

No, I'm saying that god shouldn't make deformed babies in the first place.

Questions: Are you saying that what is "deformed" in the human point of view, is also deformed in God's point of view? How did you reach this conclusion?

Do you hold a belief that God, on his own, creates each of us in the womb? In other words, egg, sperm, and DNA have nothing to do with the process. Is it all God--hands on--every time? Again, How did you reach this conclusion?

The point I want to make is that sometimes atheists create their own image of what they imagine people of faith believe. It is not God that is so far from reality as it is that what atheists are imagining people of faith believe that is far outside of reality. i.e. Both you and people of faith reject your imaginings.

God made everything in the universe according to theists. So god made the process whereby deformed babies are made. He didn't have to include that in our universe but chose to. Otherwise your god has no control over its creation?

 

[Taz]

People need to realize that their god is a mass murderer. Once people wake up to that fact, love for your god of vengeance will dissipate.

You imagine God as a mass murderer. People of faith reject your imaginings.

God purposely killed nearly all of humanity in a flood, yes or no?

 

[Meriweather]

God purposely killed nearly all of humanity in a flood, yes or no?

I don't answer yes or no. In my opinion, most likely no, but I can also envision a necessity for it that may have come about (though I tend to doubt that scenario).

 

[Meriweather]

God made everything in the universe according to theists. So god made the process whereby deformed babies are made. He didn't have to include that in our universe but chose to. Otherwise your god has no control over its creation?

There is a difference between being in control and being controlling. Some can't handle special needs children. Others, including God, can.

 

[Taz]

God made everything in the universe according to theists. So god made the process whereby deformed babies are made. He didn't have to include that in our universe but chose to. Otherwise your god has no control over its creation?

There is a difference between being in control and being controlling. Some can't handle special needs children. Others, including God, can.

So your god is making deformed babies on purpose?

 

[Taz]

God purposely killed nearly all of humanity in a flood, yes or no?

I don't answer yes or no. In my opinion, most likely no, but I can also envision a necessity for it that may have come about (though I tend to doubt that scenario).

So the Flood with Noah... didn't kill almost all of humanity?

 

[hadit]

God made everything in the universe according to theists. So god made the process whereby deformed babies are made. He didn't have to include that in our universe but chose to. Otherwise your god has no control over its creation?

There is a difference between being in control and being controlling. Some can't handle special needs children. Others, including God, can.

So your god is making deformed babies on purpose?

Nope. We did that to ourselves

 

[Meriweather]

So your god is making deformed babies on purpose?

Do you know which logical fallacy you just fell into?

 

[Meriweather]

So the Flood with Noah... didn't kill almost all of humanity?

Tell me what you think and how you reached that conclusion.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

If Trump does something you don't like, how do you plan to make him change it?

Well, for one, we can vote out his allies. Two, we can put political pressure on his allies using public discourse and leverage. Third, we can vote him out of office in 2020, the mere prospect of which (which will be measured by the public discourse now) can make him change his behavior.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Do you know which logical fallacy you just fell into?

Name it, describe it, then describe how his comment is it.

 

[zaangalewa]

God is not a human being. He does not have the same imperatives, limitations, goals, or motivations on Him that humans do. To expect Him to behave as a human does is to expect Mother Nature to do so.

So god can kill and it’s all good. And you claim the moral high ground? That’s laughable. Seriously.

Not only god can kill - I can kill too, Nazi. I don't see a joke in this what you said here to me.

Not even talking to you, Adolf.

You don't understand what it means to make s such "jokes" with a descendent of Jewish victims of the holocaust, Nazi. You have not only the problem to break German laws, so it would not be very clever from you to visit Germany. You could also get problems everywhere in the world where a law exists which allows not to deny genocides in general. This laws protect victims of genocides and allow no one to give the responsibility of a genocide to victims of a genocide. With other words: You are a barrier for the future of all mankind. A barrier feels always strong - but you could underestimate the power which forces us all to be in progress.

STFU Heinrich.

"Halt's ungewaschene Maul, Heinrich"? - whooow - perfect Nazi- slang! What do you associate with the popular name "Heinrich"? A Jew with the name Heinrich who should be murdered in new extermination camps - or "Heinrich Himmler" - one of the worst mass-murderers the world ever had seen since it is existing. One thing is for sure clear - you don't live in fear of Jews, Christians and god - otherwise you had done now only suicide.

Nevertheless I'm not sure you did not do so - and perhaps this had happened a long time ago, undead, so not much is alive any longer from the thoughts of god when he created you. You make the world to a bad place, your place.

Fortunately your world is not my world. I have to go now to bring some money to the "Sternsinger" = carol singers singing in the name of the three holy kings of wisdom and the star which leaded them to the birth of Jesus. While you attacked Christmas and Christians with your unqualified dead thoughts and your wasted deadly emotions, they collected money for people in the world who need help. You are not even worth to kiss the feet of this children, German children, undead. I will give them twice the money this year - one time also in your name. Perhaps this money is the only barrier between you and the hell which you seek.

 

[Taz]

God made everything in the universe according to theists. So god made the process whereby deformed babies are made. He didn't have to include that in our universe but chose to. Otherwise your god has no control over its creation?

There is a difference between being in control and being controlling. Some can't handle special needs children. Others, including God, can.

So your god is making deformed babies on purpose?

Nope. We did that to ourselves

How's that?

What about kids with cancer? You're giving your god a pass on that as well?

 

[Taz]

So your god is making deformed babies on purpose?

Do you know which logical fallacy you just fell into?

Tell me.

 

[Taz]

So the Flood with Noah... didn't kill almost all of humanity?

Tell me what you think and how you reached that conclusion.

Everyone except Noah's gang died in the flood god created.

 

[Taz]

So god can kill and it’s all good. And you claim the moral high ground? That’s laughable. Seriously.

Not only god can kill - I can kill too, Nazi. I don't see a joke in this what you said here to me.

Not even talking to you, Adolf.

You don't understand what it means to make s such "jokes" with a descendent of Jewish victims of the holocaust, Nazi. You have not only the problem to break German laws, so it would not be very clever from you to visit Germany. You could also get problems everywhere in the world where a law exists which allows not to deny genocides in general. This laws protect victims of genocides and allow no one to give the responsibility of a genocide to victims of a genocide. With other words: You are a barrier for the future of all mankind. A barrier feels always strong - but you could underestimate the power which forces us all to be in progress.

STFU Heinrich.

"Halt's ungewaschene Maul, Heinrich"? - whooow - perfect Nazi- slang! What do you associate with the popular name "Heinrich"? A Jew with the name Heinrich who should be murdered in new extermination camps - or "Heinrich Himmler" - one of the worst mass-murderers the world ever had seen since it is existing. One thing is for sure clear - you don't live in fear of Jews, Christians and god - otherwise you had done now only suicide.

Nevertheless I'm not sure you did not do so - and perhaps this had happened a long time ago, undead, so not much is alive any longer from the thoughts of god when he created you. You make the world to a bad place, your place.

Fortunately your world is not my world. I have to go now to bring some money to the "Sternsinger" = carol singers singing in the name of the three holy kings of wisdom and the star which leaded them to the birth of Jesus. While you attacked Christmas and Christians with your unqualified dead thoughts and your wasted deadly emotions, they collected money for people in the world who need help. You are not even worth to kiss the feet of this children, German children, undead. I will give them twice the money this year - one time also in your name. Perhaps this money is the only barrier between you and the hell which you seek.

Christmas was a month ago, you dumb Hermann.

 

[zaangalewa]

Not only god can kill - I can kill too, Nazi. I don't see a joke in this what you said here to me.

Not even talking to you, Adolf.

You don't understand what it means to make s such "jokes" with a descendent of Jewish victims of the holocaust, Nazi. You have not only the problem to break German laws, so it would not be very clever from you to visit Germany. You could also get problems everywhere in the world where a law exists which allows not to deny genocides in general. This laws protect victims of genocides and allow no one to give the responsibility of a genocide to victims of a genocide. With other words: You are a barrier for the future of all mankind. A barrier feels always strong - but you could underestimate the power which forces us all to be in progress.

STFU Heinrich.

"Halt's ungewaschene Maul, Heinrich"? - whooow - perfect Nazi- slang! What do you associate with the popular name "Heinrich"? A Jew with the name Heinrich who should be murdered in new extermination camps - or "Heinrich Himmler" - one of the worst mass-murderers the world ever had seen since it is existing. One thing is for sure clear - you don't live in fear of Jews, Christians and god - otherwise you had done now only suicide.

Nevertheless I'm not sure you did not do so - and perhaps this had happened a long time ago, undead, so not much is alive any longer from the thoughts of god when he created you. You make the world to a bad place, your place.

Fortunately your world is not my world. I have to go now to bring some money to the "Sternsinger" = carol singers singing in the name of the three holy kings of wisdom and the star which leaded them to the birth of Jesus. While you attacked Christmas and Christians with your unqualified dead thoughts and your wasted deadly emotions, they collected money for people in the world who need help. You are not even worth to kiss the feet of this children, German children, undead. I will give them twice the money this year - one time also in your name. Perhaps this money is the only barrier between you and the hell which you seek.

Christmas was a month ago, you dumb Hermann.

You compare me with Herman Göring now, Nazi? What an evil willing simple minded character you are. You could be an interesting theme for a psychologist. Whatever. I have nothing to do with anything what you say. Nevertheless ends Christmas not only in Germany the Sunday after the 6th of January, where our orthodox sisters and brothers celebrate Christmas, while we celebrate the three holy kings of wisdom. Christmas is a wonderful time.

 

[Meriweather]

Everyone except Noah's gang died in the flood god created.

Do you believe God deliberately sends natural disasters?

 

[irosie91]

Everyone except Noah's gang died in the flood god created.

Do you believe God deliberately sends natural disasters?

"deliberately"?