A nation without Conservatism

[ron4342]

So, to Liberals here, would an America without a Conservative voice to keep you in check be an ideal dream come true for you??

I do not want to see a one party country. What is needed is a two party system willing to work together. What we need is a republican party similar to the party of Eisenhower and Nixon that was willing to work with the Democratic party to make America a better place. What we need is a republican party that understands that COMPROMISE is how things get done. What we need is a republican party that believes in helping ALL Americans and not just the wealthy. What we need is a republican party that does not reward the dumbest members of their party and throw out the smartest members. What we need is a republican party that understands that Americans will vote for those who are working for their best interests and not for the best interests of the party. What we need is a republican party that can learn from its mistakes and not make the same ones over and over again. What we need is a republican party that has the courage to throw the tea party into the trash can where they belong.
Right now the best, and only, thing the American people have working for them is the Democratic party. Until the republicans change course it will remain that way.
Here is a thought to consider. Ten or fifteen years ago if you looked at the mayors of the ten largest cities in America you would find them about evenly split between Democrats and Republicans. Today if you look at the mayors of the ten largest cities in America you would find that every mayor is a Democrat. That should tell you something about how many Americans feel about the republican party.

 

[ron4342]

So, to Liberals here, would an America without a Conservative voice to keep you in check be an ideal dream come true for you??

This isn't exactly a hypothetical question. Just look at California.

Without the Tea Party having the numbers to cockblock every single thing, no matter how innocuous, that state has focused on the things that really matter to normal people out there, and now they're in budget surplus again.

Why? Because they raised taxes and cut spending in moderation and balanced their books.

Without Republicans blocking everything in Washington, President Obama would have gotten his $4 trillion Grand Bargain Debt Deal passed.

What did he get? Right, only $1 trillion because House Republicans want no part in raising revenue and couldn't even meet Obama's $2.3 trillion in spending cuts in that package because they love welfare for their rich corporate backers and huge military industrial complex spending.

Our yearly deficit would be $300 billion smaller today if not for Republicans agreeing in principle to the Grand Bargain and then never voting on it.

Without Republicans blocking everything, we could pass a more progressive tax system that would then put us back into budget surplus while billionaires still make billions, but pay just a little bit more at greater and greater levels they surpass in income.

Without Republicans, President Obama would have closed Gitmo and brought everyone there home already, while putting the remaining detainees in super-max facilities in America where they would finally move through the justice system.

Is everyone here aware of the fact that Congress needs to send the President a bill funding the closing of Gitmo? And that they refuse to do so?

Do you know that Republicans in the House only propose the opposite? They ask for hundreds of millions to keep Gitmo open and to expand it while the President only needs tens of millions to close it. And they put it in almost every budget they pass, which is why the Senate can never take up House budget bills.

Without Republicans, we'd have passed the Dream Act and a few million people would start paying into the system who are already here, are Americanized, are good citizens, are productive. It makes sense and it means revenues. The Dream Act is deficit neutral.

Without Republicans, we'd have passed a Jobs Bill paid for by the increased revenue from closing loopholes that funnel tens of billions to multinational corporations. Corporate Welfare. And we'd have construction projects and infrastructure projects and all the shovel ready jobs we've been waiting for. Our unemployment rate would be a whole point lower had we passed a Jobs Bill a year or two ago, but Republicans refuse. If unemployment comes down and revenues go up and moderate spending cuts are made and deficits turn into surpluses, they hate the fact that the President would share in the credit for it, so they would rather make everyone suffer than do the right thing.

All of these things add up to a more prosperous country that gets back to work and focuses like a laser beam on the important things.

That Republicans now think that a prosperous America is only a progressive dream just shows how far out to lunch they are.

The above clearly needs to be reposted again and again.

 

[JakeStarkey]

I think that the free existence of conservative, moderate, liberal ideas and philosophies is what makes this country a great country to live in.

The problem is you got that moron Nyvin who thinks that a 100% Leftist USA is a utopia.

And our problem in the GOP is that we have daveman, kaz, lonestar_logic, etc, out there from the far right.

And there are absolute nutters like Political Chic, Contumacius, and CrusaderFrank.

 

[ron4342]

So, to Liberals here, would an America without a Conservative voice to keep you in check be an ideal dream come true for you??

No.

It's about balance - each keeps the excesses of the other in check.

Then it would be unwise for one to seek the elimination of the other.

Normally I would agree with your accessment that "it would be unwise for one to seek the elimination of" either party. BUT, what we have going on in the United States IS NOT NORMAL. What we have is one party at war with the United States. Currently the republican party is working to take the rights away from women, gays, hispanics, blacks, the young, and the old. Currently the republican party is working to stop every single piece of legislation the Democrats propose regardless of whether it would be good or bad for the country. Currently we have a republican party that votes over and over (at least 41 times, so far) to repeal a law that they have absolutely zero chance of repealing. Currently we have a republican party that refuses to put forth any law that would benefit all Americans out of fear President Obama might get some of the credit for signing it into law. WHAT WE HAVE IS A REPUBLICAN PARTY THAT DOES NOT UNDERSTAND THAT GOVERNING INVOLVES COMPROMISE. A party this screwed up and disfunctional deserves to die a quick and painful death.