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Most all of our laws are based on Judea-Christian ethics. Can you think of any crimes that are not sins?
And most all of our laws call things crimes that are crimes in most religions.
Theft and murder were crimes before Moses got the 10 Commandments.
Also, you are looking at it backwards. Whether any crimes are not sins is not the point. Plenty of sins are not crimes. Homosexuality is one of those. To make it a crime based on religious doctrines would violate the 1st Amendment.
The point that I am making is that suicide is a worse crime (sin) than bullying.
And most all of our laws call things crimes that are crimes in most religions.
Theft and murder were crimes before Moses got the 10 Commandments.
Also, you are looking at it backwards. Whether any crimes are not sins is not the point. Plenty of sins are not crimes. Homosexuality is one of those. To make it a crime based on religious doctrines would violate the 1st Amendment.
The point that I am making is that suicide is a worse crime (sin) than bullying.
Ok, suppose for a second that you are right. And?? Since suicide is the worse sin we should ignore bullying?
The difference is that once someone commits suicide there is nothing we can do. But we can try and do something about bullying.
The point that I am making is that suicide is a worse crime (sin) than bullying.
Ok, suppose for a second that you are right. And?? Since suicide is the worse sin we should ignore bullying?
The difference is that once someone commits suicide there is nothing we can do. But we can try and do something about bullying.
We need to teach children that suicide is not the answer. This topic is being totally ignored. They are making suicide victims into martyrs rather than weak people who make the wrong choice. Suicide is more shameful than bullying. We shame bullies, yet we say that people who commit suicide are victims. . They are NOT victims, they are perpetrators.
Looks to me like there's a connection between suicide and homosexuality.
Maybe it's because being openly homosexual and embracing one's homosexuality doesn't make people happy?
Looks to me like there's a connection between suicide and homosexuality.
Maybe it's because being openly homosexual and embracing one's homosexuality doesn't make people happy?
I guess you could make that assumption. That is, if you ignore the other factors in the suicides. Like bullying, peer pressures, and the like.
Ok, suppose for a second that you are right. And?? Since suicide is the worse sin we should ignore bullying?
The difference is that once someone commits suicide there is nothing we can do. But we can try and do something about bullying.
We need to teach children that suicide is not the answer. This topic is being totally ignored. They are making suicide victims into martyrs rather than weak people who make the wrong choice. Suicide is more shameful than bullying. We shame bullies, yet we say that people who commit suicide are victims. . They are NOT victims, they are perpetrators.
So create a thread about suicide.
In some respects suicides are the perpetrators. But you cannot ignore the other factors in the situation. The fact that there is a connection between bullying and teen suicide is very relevant.
Looks to me like there's a connection between suicide and homosexuality.
Maybe it's because being openly homosexual and embracing one's homosexuality doesn't make people happy?
I guess you could make that assumption. That is, if you ignore the other factors in the suicides. Like bullying, peer pressures, and the like.
In any case, I believe the best way to reduce teen suicides is to teach kids that suicide is WRONG.
Suicide Among Homosexuals
- Lesbians are two times more likely to attempt suicide than straight women.
- Attempts by gay and lesbian youth account for up to 30% of all completed suicides.
- Gay teens are 3 times more likely to attempt suicide than their heterosexual peers.
- Gay youth are 4 times more likely to make a suicide attempt requiring medical attention.
- Gay men are six times more likely to attempt suicide than their heterosexual peers.
From The Trevor Project - Preventing Suicide Among LGBTQ Youth | The Trevor Project
We need to teach children that suicide is not the answer. This topic is being totally ignored. They are making suicide victims into martyrs rather than weak people who make the wrong choice. Suicide is more shameful than bullying. We shame bullies, yet we say that people who commit suicide are victims. . They are NOT victims, they are perpetrators.
So create a thread about suicide.
In some respects suicides are the perpetrators. But you cannot ignore the other factors in the situation. The fact that there is a connection between bullying and teen suicide is very relevant.
Well straight people get bullied and commit suicide too.
You don't see anyone running around saying we need "special rights" for heteros that get bullied.
Suicide Among Homosexuals
- Lesbians are two times more likely to attempt suicide than straight women.
- Attempts by gay and lesbian youth account for up to 30% of all completed suicides.
- Gay teens are 3 times more likely to attempt suicide than their heterosexual peers.
- Gay youth are 4 times more likely to make a suicide attempt requiring medical attention.
- Gay men are six times more likely to attempt suicide than their heterosexual peers.
From The Trevor Project - Preventing Suicide Among LGBTQ Youth | The Trevor Project
And as usual, it will NEVER occur to liberals that maybe that's because the gay lifestyle isn't as fulfilling as they would have us believe. They will blame everyone and everything thing beside that possibility.
(Psst! There's a reason the Bible banned homosexuality and it isn't because it's all fun and giggles. Maybe God banned it because HE LOVES YOU, and knows homosexuality isn't all it's cracked up to be)
When you have all these people running around screaming homosexuality is normal and shouting down anyone who suggests otherwise, then you have a case of protesting too much, and it shows.
Looks to me like there's a connection between suicide and homosexuality.
Maybe it's because being openly homosexual and embracing one's homosexuality doesn't make people happy?
SEE HOW HAPPY I AM!I guess you could make that assumption. That is, if you ignore the other factors in the suicides. Like bullying, peer pressures, and the like.
In any case, I believe the best way to reduce teen suicides is to teach kids that suicide is WRONG.
I agree with you here.
Suicide Among Homosexuals
- Lesbians are two times more likely to attempt suicide than straight women.
- Attempts by gay and lesbian youth account for up to 30% of all completed suicides.
- Gay teens are 3 times more likely to attempt suicide than their heterosexual peers.
- Gay youth are 4 times more likely to make a suicide attempt requiring medical attention.
- Gay men are six times more likely to attempt suicide than their heterosexual peers.
From The Trevor Project - Preventing Suicide Among LGBTQ Youth | The Trevor Project
And as usual, it will NEVER occur to liberals that maybe that's because the gay lifestyle isn't as fulfilling as they would have us believe. They will blame everyone and everything thing beside that possibility.
(Psst! There's a reason the Bible banned homosexuality and it isn't because it's all fun and giggles. Maybe God banned it because HE LOVES YOU, and knows homosexuality isn't all it's cracked up to be)
When you have all these people running around screaming homosexuality is normal and shouting down anyone who suggests otherwise, then you have a case of protesting too much, and it shows.
Because a small percentage of gays commit suicide, you make a blanket statement that this shows it is wrong?
And just as an FYI, your claims about why God banned something is really not relevant to a discussion on legal issues in the USA.
Even if marriage is a right, homosexuals have the right to get married.
They aren't banned from marriage because they're gay. Nobody gives a shit about who they poke (despite their frantic insistence otherwise). Gay people get married all the time. Look at these guys who got married:
See, gay people get married all the time. There's your evidence that they're not being prevented from getting married.
John Travolta got married and had children.
I disagree.
Ask any queer, and they will tell you that despite 60 years of psychobabble exposure, a significant portion of the population continues to believe homosexual behaviour is abnormal, and this is causing them to commit suicide at a higher rate.
Causing who to commit suicide? How?
I'd love to see a study on "causes of suicide". Ultimately, that, too, is just a choice.
The homosexual lobby is big on avoiding the consequences of making bad decisions.
The largest group of people who commit suicide do have mental disorders. Homosexuality is a mental disorder.
I will remind you being black is not the same as being gay, so stop using loving vs Va. as a case point for gay marriage.
that would be incorrect. the pertinent part of Loving isn't necessarily the issue of race... it's the fact that marriage is a fundamental right that can't be denied to someone for discriminatory reasons.
so please stop ignoring what the court said when you know full well that Loving applies to the issue of gay rights.
And as usual, it will NEVER occur to liberals that maybe that's because the gay lifestyle isn't as fulfilling as they would have us believe. They will blame everyone and everything thing beside that possibility.
(Psst! There's a reason the Bible banned homosexuality and it isn't because it's all fun and giggles. Maybe God banned it because HE LOVES YOU, and knows homosexuality isn't all it's cracked up to be)
When you have all these people running around screaming homosexuality is normal and shouting down anyone who suggests otherwise, then you have a case of protesting too much, and it shows.
Because a small percentage of gays commit suicide, you make a blanket statement that this shows it is wrong?
And just as an FYI, your claims about why God banned something is really not relevant to a discussion on legal issues in the USA.
Look Dude you can't have it both ways. Those suicides are how gay advocacy justifies all their gay outreach into the schools. YET, you are going to tell us the same suicides aren't pause to consider maybe it ISN'T everyone else's fault all the time?
And SINCE our laws ARE based on the Bible (and if you are going to argue otherwise, you better retake the history of this country and explain such things as the 10 Commandments on the USSC building) I think I can discuss such from that context.
The libs have done a hard job of trying to wipe out that history since the 1960s, but there is too much history for them to succeed.
So try again.
that would be incorrect. the pertinent part of Loving isn't necessarily the issue of race... it's the fact that marriage is a fundamental right that can't be denied to someone for discriminatory reasons.
so please stop ignoring what the court said when you know full well that Loving applies to the issue of gay rights.
You know full well that it doesn't. The issue here is what is a marriage. And that is what you want to pervert.
I keep hearing people say gays want to pervert marriage. How, exactly, will allowing gays to marry have any effect on my marriage or your marriage?
50% of marriages end in divorce. Domestic violence is rampant. What will gays do that is worse?
