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I say none of this from a religious standpoint or from a political standpoint. I am simply looking at this from a very stark and realistic point of view.
I have tried to examine abortion, look at others points of view and so on but I honestly see no rational or reasonable way to show abortion is not murdering a human being. There is simply no way that abortion is not murdering a child regardless of how you try to spin it.
First of all, if you have an abortion that means you have a child inside you. If you do not have a child inside you then there is nothing to abort. You can't have abortion before there is a child.
Second, once the egg is fertilized and implanted it's a baby. Sure it's a little blob, but unforseen circumstances aside, if you simply leave that blob alone it will be born in 9 months. Once a fertilized egg is implanted it starts a growth period of many stages lasting 17 to 19 years to become an adult. It doesn't matter if it's 11 days after conception or 3 years after conception, it's still a human being in different growth stages. Aborting it 3 weeks is the same as aborting it at 8 months, you are prematurely stopping the life of the baby before it can be born.
This whole "but it doesn't have a heartbeat" doesn't mean it isn't still a human growing inside its mother that if you simply leave it alone it will be born. How is it any different than if as soon as it's born you say "well it can't talk or even stand up so it isn't a human being so I'll end it's life". The only difference is you're saying it's ok to end the babies life before it has grown it's heart and ending it's life before it can talk, both are just ways to justify ending a babies life.
Not an abortion.
These women did have emergency surgery, in Texas when the Ectopic pregnancy burst.
Had these women been under the care of an oconologist, it would not of happened.
Oops. I thought the same but picked that ul in articke related to this.An "oconocist" is a doctor who treats cancer. These women don't have cancer. How could an oconocist have saved them. They were pregnant.
An "oconocist" is a doctor who treats cancer. These women don't have cancer. How could an oconocist have saved them. They were pregnant.
A Texas woman who has an ectopic pregnancy obtained a court order for an abortion and Ken Paxton threatened her hospital and her doctor if they performed the abortion. She had to go out of state to get treatment. Paxton said her life wasn't threatened at the moment she obtained the Order.
The Texas law doesn't protect the "health" of the mother. Only her life. Unless the woman is in danger of dying right this minute, no abortion for you. Regardless of the damage to her health or ability to have more children by delaying until she's on death's door, no abortion for her.
The reason is that physicians have provided abortions if the mother's mental health is at risk if she has the baby, and so they have blocked this avenue of approval.
The misuse of words is a great political trick.An "oconocist" is a doctor who treats cancer. These women don't have cancer. How could an oconocist have saved them. They were pregnant.
A Texas woman who has an ectopic pregnancy obtained a court order for an abortion ...
The misuse of words is a great political trick.
An abortion procedure is never perforned to remove an ecotopic procedure.
If you like you can name every procedure planned parenthood aborts a baby with and I can show an emergency room never uses those procedures.
www.acog.org
www.mayoclinic.org
my.clevelandclinic.org
The misuse of words is a great political trick.
An abortion procedure is never perforned to remove an ecotopic procedure.
If you like you can name every procedure planned parenthood aborts a baby with and I can show an emergency room never uses those procedures.
A " potential life " from roe v wade is a hyperbolic reference to a rite to life from the perspective of legitimate state interests that require a live birth for equal protection with a citizen .If you cannot accept that having a baby isn't YOUR decision, and that a zygote is a potential human life, not an actual human life, then there is nothing that will demonstrate that your position is untenable.
It's NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. STAY OUT OF IT.
It does matter since you are having a Jesus moment.
The abortion anti-choice seek to establish their religion through opposition to abortion , irrespective of a fact that its creed violates us constitution .The OP stated clearly that he was not speaking from a religious point of view. The left loves abortion and hates religion so much that they can't help equating the two topics.
You'er the guy who said that if these women had an "onocologist", they wouldn't have had a problem, and then you accused ME of trying to mislead YOU with word games.
Liar, never accused you of what you claim. If you think so it is because you did not comprend what was saidYou'er the guy who said that if these women had an "onocologist", they wouldn't have had a problem, and then you accused ME of trying to mislead YOU with word games.
Why would I want you to post your false information from right wing websites??? You don't have credible sources
Yet, a male doctor has not yet they know how to treat, which according to you only pregnant know about ectopic pregnancyyou've never been pregnant nor have you had a miscarriage.
It's not a life if it can't live outside the womb.I say none of this from a religious standpoint or from a political standpoint. I am simply looking at this from a very stark and realistic point of view.
I have tried to examine abortion, look at others points of view and so on but I honestly see no rational or reasonable way to show abortion is not murdering a human being. There is simply no way that abortion is not murdering a child regardless of how you try to spin it.
First of all, if you have an abortion that means you have a child inside you. If you do not have a child inside you then there is nothing to abort. You can't have abortion before there is a child.
Second, once the egg is fertilized and implanted it's a baby. Sure it's a little blob, but unforseen circumstances aside, if you simply leave that blob alone it will be born in 9 months. Once a fertilized egg is implanted it starts a growth period of many stages lasting 17 to 19 years to become an adult. It doesn't matter if it's 11 days after conception or 3 years after conception, it's still a human being in different growth stages. Aborting it 3 weeks is the same as aborting it at 8 months, you are prematurely stopping the life of the baby before it can be born.
This whole "but it doesn't have a heartbeat" doesn't mean it isn't still a human growing inside its mother that if you simply leave it alone it will be born. How is it any different than if as soon as it's born you say "well it can't talk or even stand up so it isn't a human being so I'll end it's life". The only difference is you're saying it's ok to end the babies life before it has grown it's heart and ending it's life before it can talk, both are just ways to justify ending a babies life.
Then why did you not tell me when I asked, which abortion procedure an emergency room usesI have had 3 children, and two miscarriages. With my last pregnancy, I was at VERY high risk for an ectopic pregnancy. I found out everything I could about ectopic pregnancies so I would know what I could be dealing with.
having a baby does not give you experience with ectoptic pregnancyI will match my actual experience and knowledge in dealing with pregnancy and childbirth
Thus far, my sources are Planned Parenthood and the Mayo clinic.I will match my actual experience and knowledge in dealing with pregnancy and childbirth against your "Questionable Sources" any day of the week.
Thus far, my sources are Planned Parenthood and the Mayo clinic.
You know more than planned parenthood
