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Hispanic political leaders say 71% of Hispanic voters voted for Obama.
i'm sure you've heard , the Socialist agenda is saying the Republican party must IGNORE the fact millions of Hispanics came here illegally, FORGET about demanding these people abide by the law, and INVITE them to have the same status as an American.

and if they don't get what they want, they're going to go vote Democrat.

i don't know about the rest of you, but my answer to that is, BYE!

they're trying to blackmail Conservatives.
i'm supposed to be scared that some Republican politician , who didn't do enough about the immigration problem, won't have a job?

threatening to join the Democrat Party Of Evil is going to hurt me?
in 50 years the Democrats will destroy every freaking reason why you came here!
you can tell your grand kids what a hero you are.

(P.S. John McCain needs to retire)

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Hispanic political leaders say 71% of Hispanic voters voted for Obama.
i'm sure you've heard , the Socialist agenda is saying the Republican party must IGNORE the fact millions of Hispanics came here illegally, FORGET about demanding these people abide by the law, and INVITE them to have the same status as an American.

and if they don't get what they want, they're going to go vote Democrat.

i don't know about the rest of you, but my answer to that is, BYE!

they're trying to blackmail Conservatives.
i'm supposed to be scared that some Republican politician , who didn't do enough about the immigration problem, won't have a job?

threatening to join the Democrat Party Of Evil is going to hurt me?
in 50 years the Democrats will destroy every freaking reason why you came here!
you can tell your grand kids what a hero you are.

(P.S. John McCain needs to retire)

.

First of all, illegal immigrants don't vote. Secondly, have fun trying to deport twelve to twenty million people. I mean really, good luck with that.

Now, if you want to discuss something constructive, why don't we discuss how we can get these illegals working good jobs and getting them to pay their share of the tax burden rather than just sucking off of the welfare state. A lot of them actually do want to work, but we are going to have to do a better job of educating them and get them to stop fearing deportation so they continue to work under the table if at all.
 
Hispanic political leaders say 71% of Hispanic voters voted for Obama.
i'm sure you've heard , the Socialist agenda is saying the Republican party must IGNORE the fact millions of Hispanics came here illegally, FORGET about demanding these people abide by the law, and INVITE them to have the same status as an American.

and if they don't get what they want, they're going to go vote Democrat.

i don't know about the rest of you, but my answer to that is, BYE!

they're trying to blackmail Conservatives.
i'm supposed to be scared that some Republican politician , who didn't do enough about the immigration problem, won't have a job?

threatening to join the Democrat Party Of Evil is going to hurt me?
in 50 years the Democrats will destroy every freaking reason why you came here!
you can tell your grand kids what a hero you are.

(P.S. John McCain needs to retire)

.


Marco Rubio is NOT a Democrat

:eusa_shhh:

Neither is Bobby Jindal

the browning of the GOP
 
The GOP caved on this for the Hispanic vote.
It won't work, it just made them look like fools.
 
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Hispanic political leaders say 71% of Hispanic voters voted for Obama.
i'm sure you've heard , the Socialist agenda is saying the Republican party must IGNORE the fact millions of Hispanics came here illegally, FORGET about demanding these people abide by the law, and INVITE them to have the same status as an American.

and if they don't get what they want, they're going to go vote Democrat.

i don't know about the rest of you, but my answer to that is, BYE!

they're trying to blackmail Conservatives.
i'm supposed to be scared that some Republican politician , who didn't do enough about the immigration problem, won't have a job?

threatening to join the Democrat Party Of Evil is going to hurt me?
in 50 years the Democrats will destroy every freaking reason why you came here!
you can tell your grand kids what a hero you are.

(P.S. John McCain needs to retire)

.

First of all, illegal immigrants don't vote. Secondly, have fun trying to deport twelve to twenty million people. I mean really, good luck with that.

Now, if you want to discuss something constructive, why don't we discuss how we can get these illegals working good jobs and getting them to pay their share of the tax burden rather than just sucking off of the welfare state. A lot of them actually do want to work, but we are going to have to do a better job of educating them and get them to stop fearing deportation so they continue to work under the table if at all.

We don't have to deport them. Revoke the business license of anyone caught with illegal immigrants working for them. Businesses will be too scared to hire illegals, illegal immigrants leave on their own, problem solved. Just enforce the laws we already have! We don't need some 2000 page bill that will cost trillions and not solve anything, but I guarantee that's what you'll get if people keep calling for "comprehensive immigration reform".

We can work on more work visas, we can work on restructuring our immigration process, but they won't mean a damn thing unless you stop the flow first. If your boat springs a leak do you start bailing out water or plug the damn hole first?
 
A serious discussion on this needs to begin with the idea that free movement of labor and capital are conservative causes. Once the GOP recognizes this they can start to reclaim the Hispanic vote and win elections. They will not until they do this.
 
A serious discussion on this needs to begin with the idea that free movement of labor and capital are conservative causes. Once the GOP recognizes this they can start to reclaim the Hispanic vote and win elections. They will not until they do this.

It's not often I agree with you, Rabbi, but you raise a good point here.

Also in Europe the free movement of labour is alternately embraced by employers and loathed by right wing politicians. Somewhere in there, there should be some common ground.

One of the key points to me has to be mutual recognition - if the citizens of X country can come to the US to live and work, so American citizens should enjoy the same right in reverse.
 
A serious discussion on this needs to begin with the idea that free movement of labor and capital are conservative causes. Once the GOP recognizes this they can start to reclaim the Hispanic vote and win elections. They will not until they do this.

So strange. Conservatives will be the first ones bitching about tightening the borders and then they'll be the first ones bitching about finding cheap labor.
 
Hispanic political leaders say 71% of Hispanic voters voted for Obama.
i'm sure you've heard , the Socialist agenda is saying the Republican party must IGNORE the fact millions of Hispanics came here illegally, FORGET about demanding these people abide by the law, and INVITE them to have the same status as an American.

and if they don't get what they want, they're going to go vote Democrat.

i don't know about the rest of you, but my answer to that is, BYE!

they're trying to blackmail Conservatives.

How can Hispanics blackmail Conservatives....after Conservatives have (already) been kidnapped by the Teabaggers??????

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A serious discussion on this needs to begin with the idea that free movement of labor and capital are conservative causes. Once the GOP recognizes this they can start to reclaim the Hispanic vote and win elections. They will not until they do this.

So strange. Conservatives will be the first ones bitching about tightening the borders and then they'll be the first ones bitching about finding cheap labor.

Wrong.
Real conservatives are in favor of free movement of labor and capital.
 
Hispanic political leaders say 71% of Hispanic voters voted for Obama.
i'm sure you've heard , the Socialist agenda is saying the Republican party must IGNORE the fact millions of Hispanics came here illegally, FORGET about demanding these people abide by the law, and INVITE them to have the same status as an American.

and if they don't get what they want, they're going to go vote Democrat.

i don't know about the rest of you, but my answer to that is, BYE!

they're trying to blackmail Conservatives.
i'm supposed to be scared that some Republican politician , who didn't do enough about the immigration problem, won't have a job?

threatening to join the Democrat Party Of Evil is going to hurt me?
in 50 years the Democrats will destroy every freaking reason why you came here!
you can tell your grand kids what a hero you are.

(P.S. John McCain needs to retire)

.

First of all, illegal immigrants don't vote. Secondly, have fun trying to deport twelve to twenty million people. I mean really, good luck with that.

Now, if you want to discuss something constructive, why don't we discuss how we can get these illegals working good jobs and getting them to pay their share of the tax burden rather than just sucking off of the welfare state.

If you'd take the time to do the proper research, rather-than simply repeating talking-points, you'll find that "illegals" (typically) pay the same income-taxes everyone else pays....for which they get nothing!!

They might be "illegals"....but, employers still insist they show-up with some kind o' S.S. ID!!​
 
Hispanic political leaders say 71% of Hispanic voters voted for Obama.
i'm sure you've heard , the Socialist agenda is saying the Republican party must IGNORE the fact millions of Hispanics came here illegally, FORGET about demanding these people abide by the law, and INVITE them to have the same status as an American.

and if they don't get what they want, they're going to go vote Democrat.

i don't know about the rest of you, but my answer to that is, BYE!

they're trying to blackmail Conservatives.
i'm supposed to be scared that some Republican politician , who didn't do enough about the immigration problem, won't have a job?

threatening to join the Democrat Party Of Evil is going to hurt me?
in 50 years the Democrats will destroy every freaking reason why you came here!
you can tell your grand kids what a hero you are.

(P.S. John McCain needs to retire)

.


Marco Rubio is NOT a Democrat

:eusa_shhh:

Neither is Bobby Jindal

the browning of the GOP

....And, it would take you 2 minutes, to locate them at a Republican convention.
 
A serious discussion on this needs to begin with the idea that free movement of labor and capital are conservative causes. Once the GOP recognizes this they can start to reclaim the Hispanic vote and win elections.

You mean....once the GOP admits they were wrong??

That's not likely. The GOP is comprised (primarily) of people who HATE to admit they were wrong. Such admissions just don't fit into their fantasyland of "absolutes".
 
A serious discussion on this needs to begin with the idea that free movement of labor and capital are conservative causes. Once the GOP recognizes this they can start to reclaim the Hispanic vote and win elections. They will not until they do this.

So strange. Conservatives will be the first ones bitching about tightening the borders and then they'll be the first ones bitching about finding cheap labor.

Wrong.
Real conservatives are in favor of free movement of labor and capital.

But they're not in favor of opening the border.
 
A serious discussion on this needs to begin with the idea that free movement of labor and capital are conservative causes. Once the GOP recognizes this they can start to reclaim the Hispanic vote and win elections. They will not until they do this.

So strange. Conservatives will be the first ones bitching about tightening the borders and then they'll be the first ones bitching about finding cheap labor.
If by some fluke of nature, the union goons back off and cease asking for more than they are worth, stop digging into to profits of a successful company just because they can...then maybe, just maybe there won't be a need to seek the cheap labor that comes across the border begging for relief from squalid conditions in their homeland.

Sleaze bag unions are the principle cause of our shipping factories and jobs overseas. The dumbass bastards that join them are slitting their own throats as they buy silk suits, limos and high style living for their "organizers". Today's unions are nothing more than legalized mafia!
 
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A serious discussion on this needs to begin with the idea that free movement of labor and capital are conservative causes. Once the GOP recognizes this they can start to reclaim the Hispanic vote and win elections. They will not until they do this.

Yes. Once the GOP begins to lead/legislate like real conservatives, they will attract hoards of Hispanic voters. Those same Hispanic voters who have been so easily bought by free stuff will respond to a truly conservative message.

This, of course, begs the question............what message have the "conservatives" who have readily voted GOP in the last decade been responding to?
 
Hispanic political leaders say 71% of Hispanic voters voted for Obama.
i'm sure you've heard , the Socialist agenda is saying the Republican party must IGNORE the fact millions of Hispanics came here illegally, FORGET about demanding these people abide by the law, and INVITE them to have the same status as an American.

and if they don't get what they want, they're going to go vote Democrat.

i don't know about the rest of you, but my answer to that is, BYE!

they're trying to blackmail Conservatives.
i'm supposed to be scared that some Republican politician , who didn't do enough about the immigration problem, won't have a job?

threatening to join the Democrat Party Of Evil is going to hurt me?
in 50 years the Democrats will destroy every freaking reason why you came here!
you can tell your grand kids what a hero you are.

(P.S. John McCain needs to retire)

.

First of all, illegal immigrants don't vote. Secondly, have fun trying to deport twelve to twenty million people. I mean really, good luck with that.

Now, if you want to discuss something constructive, why don't we discuss how we can get these illegals working good jobs and getting them to pay their share of the tax burden rather than just sucking off of the welfare state. A lot of them actually do want to work, but we are going to have to do a better job of educating them and get them to stop fearing deportation so they continue to work under the table if at all.

We don't have to deport them. Revoke the business license of anyone caught with illegal immigrants working for them. Businesses will be too scared to hire illegals, illegal immigrants leave on their own, problem solved. Just enforce the laws we already have! We don't need some 2000 page bill that will cost trillions and not solve anything, but I guarantee that's what you'll get if people keep calling for "comprehensive immigration reform".

We can work on more work visas, we can work on restructuring our immigration process, but they won't mean a damn thing unless you stop the flow first. If your boat springs a leak do you start bailing out water or plug the damn hole first?

The great majority are embedded in our social, cultural, and, increasingly, political framework because of their legal family and friends.

They are going nowhere is the point, regardless of your suggestions. They are 'home'.

Recognize that and work with in that framework.
 
A serious discussion on this needs to begin with the idea that free movement of labor and capital are conservative causes. Once the GOP recognizes this they can start to reclaim the Hispanic vote and win elections. They will not until they do this.

So strange. Conservatives will be the first ones bitching about tightening the borders and then they'll be the first ones bitching about finding cheap labor.
If by some fluke of nature, the union goons back off and cease asking for more than they are worth, stop digging into to profits of a successful company just because they can...then maybe, just maybe there won't be a need to seek the cheap labor that comes across the border begging for relief from squalid conditions in their homeland.

Sleaze bag unions are the principle cause of our shipping factories and jobs overseas. The dumbass bastards that join them are slitting their own throats as they buy silk suits, limos and high style living for their "organizers". Today's unions are nothing more than legalized mafia!

And America roars with laughter. Without unions and government, business would have all of us working 12 hours a day for $4 an hour with no benefits. Child labor would be in vogue. The history of labor in this country, when business is unregulated, is one of exploitation.
 

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