All 7 deaths were Brutal, right?

[WillowTree]

Well, all I can say is the NBP party and the BLM people have created a terrible image of themselves. They did it to themselves. First Impressions are lasting impressions. The fact is they've both voiced desires to kill white cops and white people. Exterminate is the word.

 

[aris2chat]

ongoing investigation. The news on the 4 yr old was two days ago.

See? Look at that show of sympathy!

BLM over shadows what actually happened, so do the shootings of innocent cops in other cities across the country.

BLM had nothing to do with the cops shooting those Black guys. Tell the cops to own their actions and stop blaming BLM.

Lets see, without the BLM protests and anger incited, those cops would still be alive
Shooter did not kill white cops because latino lives matter were having a block party

You forgot that without the cops shooting the two Black guys (one in front of his 4 yr old daughter) BLM wouldnt have been demonstrating in Dallas.

In both cases, either they had a gun or someone shouted they had a gun.

Till an investigation is complete, there is no reason to "take to the streets". We don't know all the details or the frame of mind of the officers.

We have a system of due process. If a policeman feels his life is in danger or the suspect is struggling and resisting, the officers have a right to protect themselves and others near by from a perceived threat.

Why is it that anytime a cop pulls a gun it is assumed he is a bad cop and a shooting is a bad shoot? We have seen when the law is given a chance that cops are more often than not proven to have acted according to the rules and law.

There will always be a few in a group that make mistakes or out right break the rules, but a whole race or group should not be blamed.

The two "shootings" did not take place in Dallas or Oakland or the rest of the country, so why were cops there targeted by angry shooter or mobs? Two incidences in Louisiana and Minn. So why the rage from NY to CA? Why the violence? Why were civilians, black civilians, shot by someone in the name of BLM incitement?
Why should police across the country fear for their lies? Why should major cities be afraid of domestic terrorism and violence? Why should white people be afraid of angry blacks blaming them for something that has not even had a chance to collect all the facts about?

 

[aris2chat]

I asked this one question and received push back. Driving home and watching the news there is wide spread sympathy and prayer for the officers whole lost their lives and their loved ones.

There is almost no mention of the 4 year old who witnessed someone shot and slowly died right in front of them. No mention of the 4 kids losing their dad. No sympathy. Actually just the opposite. Indifference.

I know, you probably didn't think about it because it was implied? Maybe? Or because the children aren't yanno, really effected? Meh, who knows.

On the drive home I heard people talk about the poor families (of the cops). The trauma and brutality of the deaths (of the cops). And when the deaths in the other 2 cases that involved cops they say they are waiting for an investigation. Not for the 5 cops, they instinctively know how to feel about that. Black lives?..ehhh, if you can give me a reason why it's ok and I'll defend it.

ongoing investigation. The news on the 4 yr old was two days ago.

See? Look at that show of sympathy!

Calm practicality. I've lived in war zones, so why should I be sympathetic to incidence we do not even have the facts about or enraged with those who protect us?

Sorry, I'm not falling into hysterics for you on this forum.

 

[aris2chat]

ongoing investigation. The news on the 4 yr old was two days ago.

See? Look at that show of sympathy!

BLM over shadows what actually happened, so do the shootings of innocent cops in other cities across the country.

BLM had nothing to do with the cops shooting those Black guys. Tell the cops to own their actions and stop blaming BLM.

You know what's really sad, Milkweed? You don't see the correlation between people assassinating Police and Police shooting civilians! Think people were being shot BEFORE this happened? The average cop on the street today is scared and rightfully so. They are being killed from ambush not because they personally have done something wrong but because there is a narrative being pushed that all Police hate blacks and therefore "deserve" retribution! Groups like Black Lives Matter are using the unfortunate deaths of a few blacks to foment unrest. They've taken a false narrative and used it to justify violence. What just happened in Dallas is the result.

Actually i do see the correlation. White cops have long preyed on Black people despite your claim that its just "a few". If you are a cop and you are scared then you have two options that will garner my respect. Either you start outing the racist cops or you get a new profession. Cops shouldnt be timid and feel disrespected. They should be pillars of the community. The problem with racist cops is that they do not cultivate the respect they desire so they try and create it by inducing fear. More of them will be ventilated until that changes. I would bet my home on it..

White cops have to shoot whites and black cops have had to shoot blacks at times. This is not a white against black issue. It is a potential criminal against cops issue.

Don;t fight, don't run, don't threaten cops if approached for starters. Work with cops not against them. They are the authority and for any number of reason might need to question civilians to get information. White, black, what ever, the cops are there to in force the laws and investigate crime, and help the citizens. If people act as a threat, cops will have the right to react to protect themselves and others.

BLM??? What of blacks killing blacks in the streets or dealing drugs to blacks or committing crimes in black neighborhoods? Why don't BLM address and fix those problems before blaming white cops for everything? Why are not BLM creating jobs and repairing neighborhoods instead of blaming "whitee"? Why are they doing something about crime and creating neighborhood watches so police can do their jobs elsewhere more urgently? Help police instead of against them.

 

[WillowTree]

See? Look at that show of sympathy!

BLM over shadows what actually happened, so do the shootings of innocent cops in other cities across the country.

BLM had nothing to do with the cops shooting those Black guys. Tell the cops to own their actions and stop blaming BLM.

Lets see, without the BLM protests and anger incited, those cops would still be alive
Shooter did not kill white cops because latino lives matter were having a block party

You forgot that without the cops shooting the two Black guys (one in front of his 4 yr old daughter) BLM wouldnt have been demonstrating in Dallas.

In both cases, either they had a gun or someone shouted they had a gun.

Till an investigation is complete, there is no reason to "take to the streets". We don't know all the details or the frame of mind of the officers.

We have a system of due process. If a policeman feels his life is in danger or the suspect is struggling and resisting, the officers have a right to protect themselves and others near by from a perceived threat.

Why is it that anytime a cop pulls a gun it is assumed he is a bad cop and a shooting is a bad shoot? We have seen when the law is given a chance that cops are more often than not proven to have acted according to the rules and law.

There will always be a few in a group that make mistakes or out right break the rules, but a whole race or group should not be blamed.

The two "shootings" did not take place in Dallas or Oakland or the rest of the country, so why were cops there targeted by angry shooter or mobs? Two incidences in Louisiana and Minn. So why the rage from NY to CA? Why the violence? Why were civilians, black civilians, shot by someone in the name of BLM incitement?
Why should police across the country fear for their lies? Why should major cities be afraid of domestic terrorism and violence? Why should white people be afraid of angry blacks blaming them for something that has not even had a chance to collect all the facts about?

Why?

No Justice No Peace



Remember? Or



Burn the bitch down.

 

[flacaltenn]

Can anyone show fucking sympathy for the 2 guys shot by authorities AND the people shot by criminals? Or is it a choice that gas to be made?

Here's the problem CC.. There IS MASSIVE compassion for those 2 victims. And ANGER for the cops who did it.
They were about to become front page news for a WEEK ---- until some black activist animal came into the picture and STOLE the story.

You're blaming the wrong people if you don't KNOW -- that reasonable folks are miffed and embarrassed by those 2 LE shootings. ALMOST put the momentum over the top for shining a light and getting action..

The guy who STOLE all that from the victims -- IS the one to blame. Don't be busting other people for being racist and heartless because you can't hear them over the noise..

You know this dude's name who ruined public attention and justice for those 2 victims? Or do I have to tell you?

 

[ClosedCaption]

You're right back at is again asking how blacks want to shoot the police. It's like a circular logic hell hole. Anyone who denounces attacking a cop AND who's against the police shootings are really just liars who really want to murder cops.

Like, huh?

They are anti white but has whites marching with them!

Wha?

When thousands of blacks are dying from gun violence every year that doesn't involve the Police it's rather bizarre to see so many black leaders concentrating their efforts to combat a "perceived" problem of too many shootings of blacks by the Police, Closed. The numbers are so staggeringly different...yet nobody is marching in Chicago to stop black on black crime. Why is that?

What's truly bizarre is that you keep pretending to care about the violence in Chicago and the leaders but aren't aware they are constantly in Chicago with programs in leadership denouncing the violence etc.

But since you care so much you missed all of that to determine black leaders aren't doing anything.

 

[Oldstyle]

You're right back at is again asking how blacks want to shoot the police. It's like a circular logic hell hole. Anyone who denounces attacking a cop AND who's against the police shootings are really just liars who really want to murder cops.

Like, huh?

They are anti white but has whites marching with them!

Wha?

When thousands of blacks are dying from gun violence every year that doesn't involve the Police it's rather bizarre to see so many black leaders concentrating their efforts to combat a "perceived" problem of too many shootings of blacks by the Police, Closed. The numbers are so staggeringly different...yet nobody is marching in Chicago to stop black on black crime. Why is that?

What's truly bizarre is that you keep pretending to care about the violence in Chicago and the leaders but aren't aware they are constantly in Chicago with programs in leadership denouncing the violence etc.

But since you care so much you missed all of that to determine black leaders aren't doing anything.

Chicago is one of America's great cities...of course I care. Black leaders in America are denouncing black on black violence in Chicago? Really? Well, they must be doing it quietly, Closed because I'm not hearing it on the news or reading about it in the papers I subscribe to. My question to you is this...are they DOING anything about it...or are they just giving the problem lip service and then ignoring it? The problem as I see it is you've got most of our major cities run by liberals now and quite frankly...they don't seem to have the stomach for cracking down on crime in minority neighborhoods I guess because they don't want to appear to be racist.

 

[Oldstyle]

I ask you again, Closed...are you familiar with the name Andrew Widman?

 

[Oldstyle]

Is ANYONE here familiar with the name Andrew Widman?

 

[chikenwing]

The weird thing to me was that when I went to class yesterday not one white person said shit about the child or the Black men that were killed to me. Today everyone wanted to talk to me about the Dallas shooting. I told a couple of white boys that if they didnt talk to me yesterday about the Black men being killed I really didnt want to discuss the Dallas shooting.

Color is the only thing you see, the 1st thing always is about color.the very foundation of a racists mind set.

 

[aris2chat]

You're right back at is again asking how blacks want to shoot the police. It's like a circular logic hell hole. Anyone who denounces attacking a cop AND who's against the police shootings are really just liars who really want to murder cops.

Like, huh?

They are anti white but has whites marching with them!

Wha?

When thousands of blacks are dying from gun violence every year that doesn't involve the Police it's rather bizarre to see so many black leaders concentrating their efforts to combat a "perceived" problem of too many shootings of blacks by the Police, Closed. The numbers are so staggeringly different...yet nobody is marching in Chicago to stop black on black crime. Why is that?

What's truly bizarre is that you keep pretending to care about the violence in Chicago and the leaders but aren't aware they are constantly in Chicago with programs in leadership denouncing the violence etc.

But since you care so much you missed all of that to determine black leaders aren't doing anything.

Chicago is one of America's great cities...of course I care. Black leaders in America are denouncing black on black violence in Chicago? Really? Well, they must be doing it quietly, Closed because I'm not hearing it on the news or reading about it in the papers I subscribe to. My question to you is this...are they DOING anything about it...or are they just giving the problem lip service and then ignoring it? The problem as I see it is you've got most of our major cities run by liberals now and quite frankly...they don't seem to have the stomach for cracking down on crime in minority neighborhoods I guess because they don't want to appear to be racist.

of the tiny percentage of questionable shootings by cops, only a few each year are white on black. Most blacks are shoot and killed by blacks, not cops and not "white" cops. Protests and anger are disproportionate to the facts.

if black lives matter so much, let the black community and others do something about black crime, not make police work harder.

 

[aris2chat]

Is ANYONE here familiar with the name Andrew Widman?

Florida Senate Bill 0844 (2011)?

 

[Asclepias]

See? Look at that show of sympathy!

BLM over shadows what actually happened, so do the shootings of innocent cops in other cities across the country.

BLM had nothing to do with the cops shooting those Black guys. Tell the cops to own their actions and stop blaming BLM.

Black lives matter pushes the anti white agenda...it is a hate group.......and the sniper didn't think they went far enough in their hate for whites.......

Does black lives matter have a sniper school?

White cops push an anti-Black agenda. We know because we have even had white ex police chiefs admit this.

I hope BLM does have a sniper school but I dont think so. I may suggest to them to start one.

Police officers explain how they’re encouraged to act in racist ways

I get this suspicion you're some 40 year old fat white slob trolling for effect

I get the same suspicion about you except I picture you as a 60 year old fat white slob.

 

[Asclepias]

Sometimes all you have to do is sit back and let them spew. The hate for cops and for whites just bubbles up.

So does your hate for all things Black. That Black guy that dumped you after banging you must have really messed you up.

Wash your vagina it nasty.

Is that what the Black guy told you that got you so angry at Black people? Did he tell you yours smell like ass cheese?

 

[Asclepias]

BLM had nothing to do with the cops shooting those Black guys. Tell the cops to own their actions and stop blaming BLM.

You know what's really sad, Milkweed? You don't see the correlation between people assassinating Police and Police shooting civilians! Think people were being shot BEFORE this happened? The average cop on the street today is scared and rightfully so. They are being killed from ambush not because they personally have done something wrong but because there is a narrative being pushed that all Police hate blacks and therefore "deserve" retribution! Groups like Black Lives Matter are using the unfortunate deaths of a few blacks to foment unrest. They've taken a false narrative and used it to justify violence. What just happened in Dallas is the result.

Actually i do see the correlation. White cops have long preyed on Black people despite your claim that its just "a few". If you are a cop and you are scared then you have two options that will garner my respect. Either you start outing the racist cops or you get a new profession. Cops shouldnt be timid and feel disrespected. They should be pillars of the community. The problem with racist cops is that they do not cultivate the respect they desire so they try and create it by inducing fear. More of them will be ventilated until that changes. I would bet my home on it..

See? Closed caption? He didn't say some cops. He said white cops. And no, white cops do not prey on black people. They come in contact with black people who break the law. Rarely do you hear a law abiding citizen who is black complain that a cop was mean to them.


And, he outright stated that more of them will be ventilated.




I rest my case. Gavel down.

You must not know a lot of Black people. I do. White cops were brought into Black communities after Civil Rights in order to control them. Thats the primary reason the first BPP was formed. To protect our communities from racist feral white boy cops. Yes more of racist white cops will be ventilated. You have some very angry young brothas out there willing to give their lives.

I used to live in the Dorchester section of Boston and the majority of my neighbors were black. The Boston Police who patrolled our neighborhood were white, black, Asian and Hispanic and they were there to "control" things all right...because that's what the Police DO! They have the unenviable task of enforcing the laws that they don't write.

Let's take the case of Freddie Gray...shall we? You've got a black District Attorney, Marilyn Mosby, who pressured the Baltimore Police Department to increase patrols in that neighborhood because her husband (a City Commissioner) was getting irate calls from his constituents about drug trafficking that was taking place there. So a black City Commissioner asks a black District Attorney to ask a black Police Chief to basically harass drug dealers on that corner and so you've got Baltimore Police officers...some white and some black there doing what they were ORDERED to do!

So what does Marilyn Mosby do when Freddie Gray dies in custody? She indicts the officers that SHE sent there to do exactly what they did! Suddenly this isn't a problem of a black City Commissioner, a black District Attorney and a black Police Chief! Oh no...somehow it becomes a symbol for how white Police are killing young black men! It borders on farce!

You couldn't make this shit up...

Cops should never control any community. How have you become so brainwashed? They should only have a presence and that presence should be based on respect.

Increasing patrols have nothing to do with snapping a persons spine not secured by a seat belt. what kind of retarded correlation are you attempting to draw here? Have you lost your fucking mind?

 

[Asclepias]

I'm extremely proud of my daughter. She is head of the BSU at her high school and she just influenced over 200 people to go out and demonstrate under the BLM banner. I made sure she understood that BLM shouldnt be begging but informing people of whats going on.

Love ya. But what IS going on? The high black on black homocide rate and the pursuant minimizing of that? Get rid of all the white trigger happy cops in the known universe, (I hope they do) but it still won't change the overall death rate in black communities one jot. it's fun and invigorating to get on a high horse and tilt at windmills. But lets ignore the real overreaching issues, because it's so heavy and daunting. There is the real challenge, end black on black murder, not sweep it under the rug.

One issue has nothing to do with the other though they are caused by the same dynamics. How people get those two issues confused is beyond me. While the one you keep deflecting to is alarming its in no way as alarming as paid public servants acting like criminals. Sorry but they arent even in the same arena.

 

[Asclepias]

See? Look at that show of sympathy!

BLM over shadows what actually happened, so do the shootings of innocent cops in other cities across the country.

BLM had nothing to do with the cops shooting those Black guys. Tell the cops to own their actions and stop blaming BLM.

Black lives matter pushes the anti white agenda...it is a hate group.......and the sniper didn't think they went far enough in their hate for whites.......

Does black lives matter have a sniper school?

Being pro black is not being anti white. There is literally nothing blacks have that white don't consider it to be anti them? Why? Because whites feel that way but doesn't make it true. The sniper hated whites, yes. The fuck does that mean. I am the sniper?

But all cops ain't bad. But all blacks or BLM is?

Black lies matter is an anti white, anti cop movement.....you can deny it...but it is the truth.

You can keep trying to create your own reality but dont expect Black people to fall for it. We know better.

 

[aris2chat]

You know what's really sad, Milkweed? You don't see the correlation between people assassinating Police and Police shooting civilians! Think people were being shot BEFORE this happened? The average cop on the street today is scared and rightfully so. They are being killed from ambush not because they personally have done something wrong but because there is a narrative being pushed that all Police hate blacks and therefore "deserve" retribution! Groups like Black Lives Matter are using the unfortunate deaths of a few blacks to foment unrest. They've taken a false narrative and used it to justify violence. What just happened in Dallas is the result.

Actually i do see the correlation. White cops have long preyed on Black people despite your claim that its just "a few". If you are a cop and you are scared then you have two options that will garner my respect. Either you start outing the racist cops or you get a new profession. Cops shouldnt be timid and feel disrespected. They should be pillars of the community. The problem with racist cops is that they do not cultivate the respect they desire so they try and create it by inducing fear. More of them will be ventilated until that changes. I would bet my home on it..

See? Closed caption? He didn't say some cops. He said white cops. And no, white cops do not prey on black people. They come in contact with black people who break the law. Rarely do you hear a law abiding citizen who is black complain that a cop was mean to them.


And, he outright stated that more of them will be ventilated.




I rest my case. Gavel down.

You must not know a lot of Black people. I do. White cops were brought into Black communities after Civil Rights in order to control them. Thats the primary reason the first BPP was formed. To protect our communities from racist feral white boy cops. Yes more of racist white cops will be ventilated. You have some very angry young brothas out there willing to give their lives.

I used to live in the Dorchester section of Boston and the majority of my neighbors were black. The Boston Police who patrolled our neighborhood were white, black, Asian and Hispanic and they were there to "control" things all right...because that's what the Police DO! They have the unenviable task of enforcing the laws that they don't write.

Let's take the case of Freddie Gray...shall we? You've got a black District Attorney, Marilyn Mosby, who pressured the Baltimore Police Department to increase patrols in that neighborhood because her husband (a City Commissioner) was getting irate calls from his constituents about drug trafficking that was taking place there. So a black City Commissioner asks a black District Attorney to ask a black Police Chief to basically harass drug dealers on that corner and so you've got Baltimore Police officers...some white and some black there doing what they were ORDERED to do!

So what does Marilyn Mosby do when Freddie Gray dies in custody? She indicts the officers that SHE sent there to do exactly what they did! Suddenly this isn't a problem of a black City Commissioner, a black District Attorney and a black Police Chief! Oh no...somehow it becomes a symbol for how white Police are killing young black men! It borders on farce!

You couldn't make this shit up...

Cops should never control any community. How have you become so brainwashed? They should only have a presence and that presence should be based on respect.

Increasing patrols have nothing to do with snapping a persons spine not secured by a seat belt. what kind of retarded correlation are you attempting to draw here? Have you lost your fucking mind?

criminals don't respect the community or cops, which what leads to most cases of cops needing to use force.

Cops need to control a situation to bring criminals to arrest and stand trial.

again you blame cops for what you perceive as crimes they have been cleared of.

 

[Asclepias]

A big difference is the Black Panther Party has never killed anyone to further their vision. But again, why not compare the murderous KKK to the shit talking Panthers.

The Gunman was army and had issues coming back from Afghanistan. But PTSD can't be it. It must be he's a part of a group that he said he was not part of.

Post Traumatic Stress Disorder made a black man shoot white people? Come on, Closed. You're reaching on that one!

Why is that a reach? PTSD is probably what most Black people deal with on a daily. The environment Blacks have lived in since reconstruction would cause anyone to have PTSD. I'm surprised more Black people dont snap and kill random white people.