DGS49
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NIce job. I had not seen those photos or videos.
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As it should be. Until better evidence to the contrary, even her initial actions after the murders paint her as guilty. We need to honor the extradition treaty we have with Italy.
As it should be. Until better evidence to the contrary, even her initial actions after the murders paint her as guilty. We need to honor the extradition treaty we have with Italy.
Her initial actions were exaggerated by the Italian media. They kept showing her and her boyfriend kissing over and over, when actually it was like 3 kisses they exchanged...not every one reacts the same to a situation, but they were trying to discredit her from the start.
We don't have to honor anything as ludicrous as their messed up investigation.
As it should be. Until better evidence to the contrary, even her initial actions after the murders paint her as guilty. We need to honor the extradition treaty we have with Italy.
Read some of the comments in this thread....where someone pointed out that she was being interrogated for hours on end, and the prosecutor introduced the black man (her boss) and tried to imply that her note to him, "see ya later," which in America just means goodbye, not that you really are making a date to see them, and told her that the note meant she was meeting up with him. She had used drugs that night with her boyfriend, so it's not unreasonable to think that a bedraggled person (who's been pummeled with accusations), sleepy, tired and scared would begin to think that maybe she just didn't remember and they were right?As it should be. Until better evidence to the contrary, even her initial actions after the murders paint her as guilty. We need to honor the extradition treaty we have with Italy.
Her initial actions were exaggerated by the Italian media. They kept showing her and her boyfriend kissing over and over, when actually it was like 3 kisses they exchanged...not every one reacts the same to a situation, but they were trying to discredit her from the start.
We don't have to honor anything as ludicrous as their messed up investigation.
I was talking about her accusation that another black man from Africa committed the crime...who later turned out not to even be in the area at the time. As well as a lot of other events.
Why should she be accountable for something she didn't do?The girl went a little wild after leaving home, and now doesn't know how to be accountable for her actions. I suppose that is natural.
Read some of the comments in this thread....where someone pointed out that she was being interrogated for hours on end, and the prosecutor introduced the black man (her boss) and tried to imply that her note to him, "see ya later," which in America just means goodbye, not that you really are making a date to see them, and told her that the note meant she was meeting up with him. She had used drugs that night with her boyfriend, so it's not unreasonable to think that a bedraggled person (who's been pummeled with accusations), sleepy, tired and scared would begin to think that maybe she just didn't remember and they were right?Her initial actions were exaggerated by the Italian media. They kept showing her and her boyfriend kissing over and over, when actually it was like 3 kisses they exchanged...not every one reacts the same to a situation, but they were trying to discredit her from the start.
We don't have to honor anything as ludicrous as their messed up investigation.
I was talking about her accusation that another black man from Africa committed the crime...who later turned out not to even be in the area at the time. As well as a lot of other events.
She didn't even have a lawyer present to advice her not to say anything....that's BS, we don't do that in the US.
Why should she be accountable for something she didn't do?The girl went a little wild after leaving home, and now doesn't know how to be accountable for her actions. I suppose that is natural.
As it should be. Until better evidence to the contrary, even her initial actions after the murders paint her as guilty. We need to honor the extradition treaty we have with Italy.
Her initial actions were exaggerated by the Italian media. They kept showing her and her boyfriend kissing over and over, when actually it was like 3 kisses they exchanged...not every one reacts the same to a situation, but they were trying to discredit her from the start.
We don't have to honor anything as ludicrous as their messed up investigation.
I was talking about her accusation that another black man from Africa committed the crime...who later turned out not to even be in the area at the time. As well as a lot of other events.
The girl went a little wild after leaving home, and now doesn't know how to be accountable for her actions. I suppose that is natural.
NIce job. I had not seen those photos or videos.
Read some of the comments in this thread....where someone pointed out that she was being interrogated for hours on end, and the prosecutor introduced the black man (her boss) and tried to imply that her note to him, "see ya later," which in America just means goodbye, not that you really are making a date to see them, and told her that the note meant she was meeting up with him. She had used drugs that night with her boyfriend, so it's not unreasonable to think that a bedraggled person (who's been pummeled with accusations), sleepy, tired and scared would begin to think that maybe she just didn't remember and they were right?I was talking about her accusation that another black man from Africa committed the crime...who later turned out not to even be in the area at the time. As well as a lot of other events.
She didn't even have a lawyer present to advice her not to say anything....that's BS, we don't do that in the US.
Why should she be accountable for something she didn't do?The girl went a little wild after leaving home, and now doesn't know how to be accountable for her actions. I suppose that is natural.
We don't do that in the US? Hmmm, interesting. The process of the Italian courts is sound, and we have a treaty with them. We have to support it. The Supreme Court of Italy ruled on that to a fair review of the evidence.
Read some of the comments in this thread....where someone pointed out that she was being interrogated for hours on end, and the prosecutor introduced the black man (her boss) and tried to imply that her note to him, "see ya later," which in America just means goodbye, not that you really are making a date to see them, and told her that the note meant she was meeting up with him. She had used drugs that night with her boyfriend, so it's not unreasonable to think that a bedraggled person (who's been pummeled with accusations), sleepy, tired and scared would begin to think that maybe she just didn't remember and they were right?Her initial actions were exaggerated by the Italian media. They kept showing her and her boyfriend kissing over and over, when actually it was like 3 kisses they exchanged...not every one reacts the same to a situation, but they were trying to discredit her from the start.
We don't have to honor anything as ludicrous as their messed up investigation.
I was talking about her accusation that another black man from Africa committed the crime...who later turned out not to even be in the area at the time. As well as a lot of other events.
She didn't even have a lawyer present to advice her not to say anything....that's BS, we don't do that in the US.
Why should she be accountable for something she didn't do?The girl went a little wild after leaving home, and now doesn't know how to be accountable for her actions. I suppose that is natural.
1. She was not acquitted for lack of evidence...but what those judges questioned was current evidence in DNA testing. That decision was not ratified by the Court of Constancy as required in Italian law. The Supreme Court agreed. In other words, there was no double jeopardy as is against American law, for the decision was never finalized. The Supreme Court thus ruled to the original decision of quilt.
2. The perpetrator now in jail could not name his accomplice in court, though he was allowed to say it was two other people who he did not know very well, but lived there. I do not know the particulars of Italian law as to why this is, though it is taken everyone by now knew who he was inferring to.
The young British girl's death deserves justice. We should not let jingoism and personal senses of nationalism get in the way of justice. The justices that ruled here are just as smart and diligent as those in the states. It is wrong to wish they are not. The case was well prepared, and resolved, and most likely she will be sent back to serve her sentence.
Read some of the comments in this thread....where someone pointed out that she was being interrogated for hours on end, and the prosecutor introduced the black man (her boss) and tried to imply that her note to him, "see ya later," which in America just means goodbye, not that you really are making a date to see them, and told her that the note meant she was meeting up with him. She had used drugs that night with her boyfriend, so it's not unreasonable to think that a bedraggled person (who's been pummeled with accusations), sleepy, tired and scared would begin to think that maybe she just didn't remember and they were right?I was talking about her accusation that another black man from Africa committed the crime...who later turned out not to even be in the area at the time. As well as a lot of other events.
She didn't even have a lawyer present to advice her not to say anything....that's BS, we don't do that in the US.
Why should she be accountable for something she didn't do?The girl went a little wild after leaving home, and now doesn't know how to be accountable for her actions. I suppose that is natural.
I find it interesting that our xenophobic "we're # 1" right-wing authoritarians just ADORE other legal systems if those systems effectively do what our constitutional protections don't allow them to do here. Look at the bromance between them and Vlad with his anti-gay repression, and now how enamored they are with this religious zealot's "slut shaming" of what they consider a promiscuous American girl getting her just desserts for her loose ways.![]()
I know....it defies reason.....![]()
So, you have no argument, other than that she is innocent. Let us then take the words of preeminent Harvard professor and defense attorney Alan Dershowitz, who many claim to be liberal, as well as the lawyer and columnist Ann Coulter, both of whom state that if she were ugly and not wealthy, she would not even come to the attention of her current supporters. They continue with key points on why she and her boyfriend are guilty, including what they say is one of the key factors in the case many do not note, that earlier in the day they reported the burglary of another roommates room. Police now know it was them that reported it because of phone records. But Filomina Rosselinni was not even home at the time, and they had never seen her. How did they know her room, and only her room had been burglarized? Furthermore, police said it was staged, but did not know why? Amanda would not let them check Meredith's room. She barred their way. It was only when Filomena Rosselinni came home that she said she did not call about her room being burglarized, and that Meredith never locked her door, contrary to Amanda's story. According to all witness there at the time, Amanda and her boyfriend retreated to the other side of the apartment at that time and hugged one another as everyone else stood around with the police to bust down Meredith's door.
The evidence points to not only her quilt, but that they did it with such sheer unconcern. They did not care, and really believed that they would get away with it. But, what makes this case so especially disturbing, is the number of people who will give shelter and support to not only criminals, but those that are absolutely evil.
Dershowitz: I Wouldn't Want My Son Going Out With Amanda Knox
Ann Coulter - September 7, 2011 - AMANDA KNOX: THE NEW MUMIA!
I know....it defies reason.....![]()
Barb didn't say that, I did. I hate when posters screw up the quotes and accredit someone for saying something that someone else said. You need to preview your responses to make sure you aren't screwing them up, the next thing you are going to have me saying that Amanda is guilty.....
So, you have no argument, other than that she is innocent. Let us then take the words of preeminent Harvard professor and defense attorney Alan Dershowitz, who many claim to be liberal, as well as the lawyer and columnist Ann Coulter, both of whom state that if she were ugly and not wealthy, she would not even come to the attention of her current supporters. They continue with key points on why she and her boyfriend are guilty, including what they say is one of the key factors in the case many do not note, that earlier in the day they reported the burglary of another roommates room. Police now know it was them that reported it because of phone records. But Filomina Rosselinni was not even home at the time, and they had never seen her. How did they know her room, and only her room had been burglarized? Furthermore, police said it was staged, but did not know why? Amanda would not let them check Meredith's room. She barred their way. It was only when Filomena Rosselinni came home that she said she did not call about her room being burglarized, and that Meredith never locked her door, contrary to Amanda's story. According to all witness there at the time, Amanda and her boyfriend retreated to the other side of the apartment at that time and hugged one another as everyone else stood around with the police to bust down Meredith's door.
The evidence points to not only her quilt, but that they did it with such sheer unconcern. They did not care, and really believed that they would get away with it. But, what makes this case so especially disturbing, is the number of people who will give shelter and support to not only criminals, but those that are absolutely evil.
Dershowitz: I Wouldn't Want My Son Going Out With Amanda Knox
Ann Coulter - September 7, 2011 - AMANDA KNOX: THE NEW MUMIA!
I see you choose one to chastise, when I gave two links from both sides of the political spectrum who both agree that she is guilty, and are noteworthy in their fields and law. I myself, prefer Alan Dershowitz, so attempting to color this as a right-wing conspiracy doesn't fly. I shared both for your benefit.
As the evidence showed in court, they huddled together prior to the breaking down of Meredith's door. They knew what would be found, for they had been there when the evil deed had been committed.