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You're wrong again, Steph, and right on schedule. The majority of people in this country are not against same-sex marriage, they are FOR it. The number now stands at between 55-59% of Americans now for it fyi.probably more people shack up in this day and age then get married, yet here they are
all over marriage...they can still take the other to court and take everything they have if they split if that what they're worried about. they don't have to be married
good grief, its' never ending
the majority of the people are against slavery, they don't whine over that
the majority of the people are AGAINST homosexual marriage, they WHINE over that and are going to FORCE on you one or another
Yes, we were ALL born with rights no doubt about that but I only wish Conservatives knew and understood that.The Randy Report: American Bar Association: LGBT people entitled to basic human rights & protections
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KUDOS to the American Bar Association for their wonderful resolution that people should take good notice of and heed.
No one needs to be entitled with rights, they are born with them, and those rights do not give anyone the right to demand anything of anyone else.
Now, to address the resolution, what good does the ABA think it is going to do to pass a resolution against laws in other countries?
But the problem stems from the fact that those who think they are better and superior to others will deny those they think are beneath them of those rights therefore marginalizing them. When they do that then many people inevitably suffer and that is not good. And that is why they have to continue their struggle and fight for Equality that they are so deserving of due to those inalienable rights that they were given in this fine country under the Fourteenth Amendment.
As to the resolution, it primarily helps LGBT citizens right here in this country. And while there is no doubt they would hope it would also have a far-reaching effect into other countries also, we are concerned with our own at the moment and that is the main goal. We can and will, however, continue the fight to try to change bigoted minds and hearts in other countries as well.
You're right. And centuries ago Same-Sex Marriage was certainly allowed, as a scholarly university professor and Chairman of the History Department of Yale, a prestigious university, found out. Everyone should read this scholarly article.
Anthropologist Community - When Same-Sex Marriage Was a Christian Rite
Neither the first, nor 'correct link' link on that livejournal link work to get the original article. But I saved the webpage and put it in my 'things to mess with homophobes heads' dir.
Looking for the original I find references to it by the Jesuits here,
Internet History Sourcebooks Project
"Another Version of a Union Rite
By Nicholas Zymaris [independent Orthodox scholar]
INTRODUCTION [by Zymaris]
This service is a rite of the Eastern Orthodox Church dating from very early times and assuming its present form between the fourth and ninth centuries AD."
And another version here, though still not the original,
WHEN SAME-SEX MARRIAGE WAS A CHRISTIAN RITE1
Only been looking for a few minutes but it seems like the Powers used that thing in one of the Batman movies that scours the internet erasing all trace of you but on the article.
You have no idea how the world works, do you?
Neither the first, nor 'correct link' link on that livejournal link work to get the original article. But I saved the webpage and put it in my 'things to mess with homophobes heads' dir.
Looking for the original I find references to it by the Jesuits here,
Internet History Sourcebooks Project
"Another Version of a Union Rite
By Nicholas Zymaris [independent Orthodox scholar]
INTRODUCTION [by Zymaris]
This service is a rite of the Eastern Orthodox Church dating from very early times and assuming its present form between the fourth and ninth centuries AD."
And another version here, though still not the original,
WHEN SAME-SEX MARRIAGE WAS A CHRISTIAN RITE1
Only been looking for a few minutes but it seems like the Powers used that thing in one of the Batman movies that scours the internet erasing all trace of you but on the article.
You have no idea how the world works, do you?
Give in Dr. Fruitloop do tell me.
Professor John Boswell was the writer of that fine article and his article is most certainly not bogus you should know. The link you are referring to that you say leads to a dead end is apparently one that was discarded as perhaps they changed their mind on any updates they may have had in mind?You're right. And centuries ago Same-Sex Marriage was certainly allowed, as a scholarly university professor and Chairman of the History Department of Yale, a prestigious university, found out. Everyone should read this scholarly article.God didn't forbid same sex couples getting married. And our country wasn't founded on marriage.
There isn't minority trying to monopolize anything, it's just trying to break a monopoly of the majority. That was a founding principle.
Anthropologist Community - When Same-Sex Marriage Was a Christian Rite
You are quite adept at finding bogus articles to support your delusions, you should be thankful you have a talent that is so useless in the real world. this one was so good that even the corrected link leads to a dead end.
You're right. And centuries ago Same-Sex Marriage was certainly allowed, as a scholarly university professor and Chairman of the History Department of Yale, a prestigious university, found out. Everyone should read this scholarly article.God didn't forbid same sex couples getting married. And our country wasn't founded on marriage.
There isn't minority trying to monopolize anything, it's just trying to break a monopoly of the majority. That was a founding principle.
Anthropologist Community - When Same-Sex Marriage Was a Christian Rite
You are quite adept at finding bogus articles to support your delusions, you should be thankful you have a talent that is so useless in the real world. this one was so good that even the corrected link leads to a dead end.
You have no idea how the world works, do you?
Give in Dr. Fruitloop do tell me.
There is no way to disappear anything from the internet, which is why you are able to link to an article that the author of did not care enough about to keep his site up.
Professor John Boswell was the writer of that fine article and his article is most certainly not bogus you should know. The link you are referring to that you say leads to a dead end is apparently one that was discarded as perhaps they changed their mind on any updates they may have had in mind?You're right. And centuries ago Same-Sex Marriage was certainly allowed, as a scholarly university professor and Chairman of the History Department of Yale, a prestigious university, found out. Everyone should read this scholarly article.
Anthropologist Community - When Same-Sex Marriage Was a Christian Rite
You are quite adept at finding bogus articles to support your delusions, you should be thankful you have a talent that is so useless in the real world. this one was so good that even the corrected link leads to a dead end.
The article by Professor Boswell is right there for anyone to clearly read anytime they want. That article stands proud and tall on its own professional merits.
If you're looking to read more about Professor Boswell, you can use the links provided under "Books Written by Prof. John Boswell" Both those links are working.
I agree there should have basic human rights and protection. But marriage it should be between man and woman
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Then don't marry someone who is the same sex as you.
Why aren't you happy to be free to live as you choose? Why do you believe you have the right to take freedom from other people and force them to live as you would live?
I just don't get it.
Its fear.
Fear of change, diversity, dissent, and expressions of individual liberty.
Then by your own definition LGBT citizens should also be able to enjoy the Same Rights that Heterosexuals now enjoy and without prejudice.No, they don't already have BASIC human rights as they are being tightly and unfairly withheld by bigotry, hate, and discrimination. That is obvious. If they did they wouldn't be out fighting as they are. As far as parades and whatever national t.v. you're referring to, again, that is a good way to bring these matters to the table and bring focus to them so that one day, hopefully soon, every LGBT citizen will be able to truly have and embrace their rightful human rights as Heterosexuals have and enjoy and as has been guaranteed to all citizens under the Fourteenth Amendment. Gays and Lesbians should not be having to fight bigots who want to withhold that from them. That should be automatically guaranteed to each and every person and citizen of these United States. They should expect nothing less and should continue to work tirelessly, with great tenacity, vigor, and strength towards achieving that goal and those rights that they are so very much deserving of.They don't already have "basic human rights"?
What a dumb ass retarded thread. They're so oppressed they don't have their own parades or an abnormal % of representation on network tv.
*facepalm*
If they didn't have basic human rights in this country they wouldn't be able to have those parades. That might explain why the resolution you posted a link to, but didn't read, is calling for changes in the laws of other countries than the US.
If your religious beliefs prohibit marriage between those of the same gender, do not attend the ceremonies, send no cards, nor gifts, and do not have the individuals involved in your home. Some faiths prohibit interfaith marriage. same rules should apply for gay marriage, the legal right should be separate from religious faith.
Professor John Boswell was the writer of that fine article and his article is most certainly not bogus you should know. The link you are referring to that you say leads to a dead end is apparently one that was discarded as perhaps they changed their mind on any updates they may have had in mind?You're right. And centuries ago Same-Sex Marriage was certainly allowed, as a scholarly university professor and Chairman of the History Department of Yale, a prestigious university, found out. Everyone should read this scholarly article.
Anthropologist Community - When Same-Sex Marriage Was a Christian Rite
You are quite adept at finding bogus articles to support your delusions, you should be thankful you have a talent that is so useless in the real world. this one was so good that even the corrected link leads to a dead end.
The article by Professor Boswell is right there for anyone to clearly read anytime they want. That article stands proud and tall on its own professional merits.
If you're looking to read more about Professor Boswell, you can use the links provided under "Books Written by Prof. John Boswell" Both those links are working.
You're right. And centuries ago Same-Sex Marriage was certainly allowed, as a scholarly university professor and Chairman of the History Department of Yale, a prestigious university, found out. Everyone should read this scholarly article.
Anthropologist Community - When Same-Sex Marriage Was a Christian Rite
You are quite adept at finding bogus articles to support your delusions, you should be thankful you have a talent that is so useless in the real world. this one was so good that even the corrected link leads to a dead end.
Isn't a bogus article as per my link to a respected university with Jesuits addressing the article.
There is no way to disappear anything from the internet, which is why you are able to link to an article that the author of did not care enough about to keep his site up.
Really? Suppose it's impossible to hack your way into uranium enrichment centrifuges or a airliner's navigation systems too. Thanks for the wisdom.
Things in movies set in, or near present time, are in movies most of the time because they have a basis in fact.
Then by your own definition LGBT citizens should also be able to enjoy the Same Rights that Heterosexuals now enjoy and without prejudice.No, they don't already have BASIC human rights as they are being tightly and unfairly withheld by bigotry, hate, and discrimination. That is obvious. If they did they wouldn't be out fighting as they are. As far as parades and whatever national t.v. you're referring to, again, that is a good way to bring these matters to the table and bring focus to them so that one day, hopefully soon, every LGBT citizen will be able to truly have and embrace their rightful human rights as Heterosexuals have and enjoy and as has been guaranteed to all citizens under the Fourteenth Amendment. Gays and Lesbians should not be having to fight bigots who want to withhold that from them. That should be automatically guaranteed to each and every person and citizen of these United States. They should expect nothing less and should continue to work tirelessly, with great tenacity, vigor, and strength towards achieving that goal and those rights that they are so very much deserving of.
If they didn't have basic human rights in this country they wouldn't be able to have those parades. That might explain why the resolution you posted a link to, but didn't read, is calling for changes in the laws of other countries than the US.
As to the resolution. You conveniently refrained from commenting on their very first RESOLVED paragraph that actually addresses LGBT citizens, in general, which means right here in this country also. And Then, in it's SECOND paragraph, FURTHER Resolved, that goes on to address those in other countries but may also be interpreted to mean the U.S.A. as well due to the context in which they are addressing the issue of laws which discriminate, regulations, and practices which are now taking place right here in this country.
Which came first, basic human rights & protections or the LGBT?
'Tis a no-brainer.
