American Fascism is Coming.

[ClaireH]

Republican: Prefers smaller central government role in the private sector. Actually believes in the Constitution.

That ain't today's neocon GOP....They're kayfabe democrats.

You make a good point OB that there are a variety of Republicans and that fact sometimes gets muddied when people use outdated or inaccurate labeling as you’ve suggested. What typically happens in political dialogue is the “all or nothing approach” which inaccurately groups different agendas together instead of looking for the intricacies. We see it daily here on USMB….”ALL Democrats do this” or “ALL Republicans do that”, which is not just “off” but an impossibility on all counts.

Your post highlights the much needed measure to use precise labels. Instead of using the entire collective like “Democrat”, a better conversation can be had when we discuss the differences let’s say between Corporate Democrats and Progressive Democrats (further breakdown between Super Progressives and Progressives) etc. Same of course when discussing various Republicans and libertarians for that matter.

When a person self-labels as a libertarian there are multiple divisions, far from just one. It matters whether a libertarian is left leaning or right leaning, whether one supports a more authoritarian government or the polar opposite and so forth.

When people make the effort to specify groups and political goals with accuracy, generic labeling goes out the window.

 

[bripat9643]

CRT is not communism, and it's not being taught in any grade school. Why are Republicans so busy banning something that isn't happening, all the while claiming that it is - just like the stolen election.

What Republicans are banning, is the mention of slavery, racism, or in anything that would hurt white children's feelings. Like we're all delicate flowers who will be driven mad by discovering that their white antecedents were racists.

All lies.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Josh Hawley's Orwellian "Love America Act" and the fascist campaign to rewrite history

It should be called the hate America act.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

It should be called, teach the lie.

Exactly.

 

[kaz]

I don't know..Britannica has an interesting and broad definition of it what is nationalism. You could be right and I might not be understanding nationalism correctly - I think it's a much more nuanced concept than I thought.

I can think of many instances where nationalism as a component to other movements, has ended badly:
Hitler's Germany
Mussolini's Italy
Stalin's Russia


But then, there is this article: Development and the crisis of global nationalism

I clearly didn't say you were wrong in the direction, only that you are taking the greatly exaggerated view.

Certainly Nazi Germany, Stalinist Russia and WWII Japan for example were the extreme. But the term is used far more broadly and not just for those extreme cases.

Democrats on the other hand consider it "Nationalist" to simply put our own interest first, like every other country does and is allowed to do.

Democrats like extreme words

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Your whataboutism notwithstanding, one thing has NOTHING to do with the other.

This is a bold attempt to codify fascism into the laws of the USA, by restricting freedom of speech under the First Amendment, and requiring teachers to lie to children in teaching American history. To give children the false belief that the Government is infallible, and has never been anything other than a force of good and geatness in the universe.

Kindly remember that nothing that the NAZI's did in Germany was illegal or contrary to any of the laws of the land. Everything, right down to the "Final Solution" was approved under law. Republicans are trying to rewrite American History to prove "American exceptionism", which more and more is sounding chillingly like "Aryan supremacity"

Those are the antifascist groups. BLM and antifa. There's no but but but...............

 

[kaz]

You are the racist jackass. You are the one who is shoveling shit.

It is Republicans who shout down any opposition. It is Republicans who hand out death threats.

Fight Breaks Out As Democrat Holds Outdoor Town Hall in CA

Punches were thrown, someone ended up on the ground, and someone ended up with a citation after a town hall event in California ended with a melee.

www.mediaite.com

You demonstrate your stupidity Nazi.

You live in a fantasy land, racist piece of garbage. You aren't afraid of Republicans, liar. You are the violent fascist Nazis and everyone knows it, including you

 

[surada]

FDR, Churchill, Truman, LBJ, Kennedy, De Gaul, Ghandi, Stalin, Lenin, Castro.

You didn't bother to look it up, did you?

 

[kaz]

You are the Nazi.

LOL, you're just parroting whatever I say now, brainless Nazi racist twat

 

[sartre play]

The places where BLM got out of control, lots of people to blame, agree. What is missing from that narrative is that EVERY where in the entire country there were BLM protests, from tiny towns were 4 to twelve people showed up, to huge thousands of supporters marches with little to zero violence. Its a very slanted view to show only the most negative, and never any of the other millions that were peaceful.

 

[Coyote]

I clearly didn't say you were wrong in the direction, only that you are taking the greatly exaggerated view.

Certainly Nazi Germany, Stalinist Russia and WWII Japan for example were the extreme. But the term is used far more broadly and not just for those extreme cases.

Democrats on the other hand consider it "Nationalist" to simply put our own interest first, like every other country does and is allowed to do.

Democrats like extreme words

Ya well, so do Republicans
(commie, gulag, nazi....)

 

[kaz]

Ya well, so do Republicans
(commie, gulag, nazi....)

I haven't heard Republicans say "gulag." Democrats are commies if you believe the Communist manifesto defines Communism. Name any plank of the Communist manifesto opposed by Democrats.

And your party's actions are certainly fascist. I'll leave the Nazi up to you. But you're cancelling, threatening and intimidating anyone who opposes you into silence. That any Democrats are afraid is laughable by anyone who goes out into public.

Back on the subject of nationalism, if you want to apply the term to only those extreme examples that's fine, but that isn't an argument when someone just uses it to say they just put their own country first. As again everyone but us is allowed to do, and everyone but us does

 

[Lysistrata]

Should they be forced to hear it?

Do you feel the same about religion in schools?

Do you mean hearing about all religions in a survey course or a single one, or a sect thereof, to the exclusion of all others? Didn't Alabama outlaw yoga in schools because some of its citizens thought that it recruited students into the Hindu faith? Not only does yoga not involve religious recruitment, apparently some Alabama parents are very frightened of the Hindu faith.

 

[bripat9643]

It should be called the hate America act.

Everything Biden and the Dims do should be called the "Hate America Act."

 

[bripat9643]

You didn't bother to look it up, did you?

Did you have some propaganda you expected me to read?

 

[surada]

If the basic definition of nationalism is a country that looks out for its own interests- that’s absolutely true to say all countries experience a sense of nationalism, a purpose of nationalism to stay the course successfully.

You don't know the difference between patriotism and nationalism.

 

[surada]

Did you have some propaganda you expected me to read?

Nope, just google Nationalists of the 20th century.

 

[surada]

You make a good point OB that there are a variety of Republicans and that fact sometimes gets muddied when people use outdated or inaccurate labeling as you’ve suggested. What typically happens in political dialogue is the “all or nothing approach” which inaccurately groups different agendas together instead of looking for the intricacies. We see it daily here on USMB….”ALL Democrats do this” or “ALL Republicans do that”, which is not just “off” but an impossibility on all counts.

Your post highlights the much needed measure to use precise labels. Instead of using the entire collective like “Democrat”, a better conversation can be had when we discuss the differences let’s say between Corporate Democrats and Progressive Democrats (further breakdown between Super Progressives and Progressives) etc. Same of course when discussing various Republicans and libertarians for that matter.

When a person self-labels as a libertarian there are multiple divisions, far from just one. It matters whether a libertarian is left leaning or right leaning, whether one supports a more authoritarian government or the polar opposite and so forth.

When people make the effort to specify groups and political goals with accuracy, generic labeling goes out the window.

Trump has never read the Constitution.. He stated, "Its too hard, like a foreign language"..

He has a poor education particularly in history, religion, foreign affairs, ethics and civics. He's not a leader..

 

[Whodatsaywhodat.]

That did not happen. Republicans are enemies of the state. They have killed more people than Islamic terrorists since Trump took office. He has encouraged violencxe.

Do you ever tell the truth? You are pathetic.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

American fascism is coming.

Josh Hawley's Orwellian "Love America Act" and the fascist campaign to rewrite history

Donald Trump may no longer be president, but the American people are still stuck in a state of malignant normality that his presidency brought into being.

Psychologist John Gartner describes such a state of being this way:

Malignant normality is when a malignantly narcissistic leader takes control of society and gradually changes reality for everyone else. So their crazy internal reality becomes enacted in the lived true external reality of that society. This is how a leader can come in and change the mores of their society.

In his role as national cheerleader and secular priest, President Biden is trying to provide moral leadership and healing for a traumatized nation, still shell-shocked by the Trump movement's continuing assault on democracy and society.

Biden's efforts have provided only short-term relief. The neofascist threat is escalating; Biden and the Democrats have shown themselves largely impotent against it. The coronavirus pandemic is now resurgent because of a new variant and Trump's followers' refusal to be vaccinated.

For these and many other reasons — most notably, extreme wealth and income inequality and the global climate crisis — America is becoming a dystopia.

The collective emotional state of many Americans, or at least those who are paying attention and still care, is frustration and unease.

For the likes of Sen. Josh Hawley, the notorious Missouri Republican, such a crisis is a dream opportunity. Last week, Hawley proposed a bill called the Love America Act of 2021, which would deny federal funding to schools that teach the real history of America and the centrality of racism and white supremacy to the country's origins. The key text of this document reads:

RESTRICTION ON FEDERAL FUNDS FOR TEACHING THAT CERTAIN DOCUMENTS ARE PRODUCTS OF WHITE SUPREMACY OR RACISM — … [N]o Federal funds shall be provided to an educational agency or school that teaches that the Pledge of Allegiance, the Declaration of Independence, or the Constitution of the United States is a product of white supremacy or racism.

Hawley's "Love America" bill is not a joke. It is a statement of shared principles and loyalty to an anti-democratic, racial-authoritarian movement that is winning victories all over the United States.

Josh Hawley's Orwellian "Love America Act" and the fascist campaign to rewrite history

It should be called, teach the lie.

You just can't get Trump out of your head. Oddly enough neither can the people as he now apparently has higher approval numbers than your retard in the office.
I hear that poor kids are almost as smart as whites but the retard didn't want his school to turn into a jungle by bussing in blacks.
I wonder if Obama is still the most articulate and clean black man he's ever met?