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Registration does nothing to stop or prevent crime and it won't stop or prevent mass shootings just like background checks, and magazine limits do nothing to stop criminals from getting guns....Canada tried registration...and it failed miserably, so they stopped doing it.......

How exactly would licenses stop someone who would illegally supply a criminal with a gun ....

So genius....the guy with the license goes in, gets a background check, and sells the gun to the convicted felon...just the act of selling the gun to the felon is a felony...without the license or the background check......

So what is the fucking point to the license....it didn't stop the illegal transfer because the guy selling the gun accepted the risk that came with breaking the law...

How do you stop this....catch the felon with the gun and lock him up.....

That's why we need background checks for ALL sales.


Sorry....it isn't worth it.....if the guy sells one gun unknowingly....no problem...if he is making it a business you set up a sting just like all other illegal activity...and that means you don't have to impinge on the rights of all the other gun owners because you guys are paranoid......

And what background check stopped the rocket propelled grenades in florida.....have to check in on this but it came across the news today........
 
Ever notice that it is always the gun fetishists who know all the ways to break the laws.

And most of them would happily break the law if they were required to obtain a background check in order to buy and sell a gun.

The gun fetishists are the problem, not the solution.


Moron.....we have nuts like you trying to impose stupid, ineffective laws on law abiding gun owners....laws that will not stop one illegal gun sale, or prevent one gun crime or mass shooting...so we actually have to know how these crimes happen so we can tell you nuts just how stupid your ideas are...and how ineffective they will be with what you claim to want to stop.....cause you guys are dumb....and want laws that don't work...so we actually have to research the topic so we can try to explain to you guys that you don't know what you are doing.....
 
Registration does nothing to stop or prevent crime and it won't stop or prevent mass shootings just like background checks, and magazine limits do nothing to stop criminals from getting guns....Canada tried registration...and it failed miserably, so they stopped doing it.......

Without registration, how do we know that 2aguy has been selling guns to known criminals?


because when you arrest the felon with the guns he can't have...you offer him a deal to give up his supplier......no muss, no fuss and no need to register guns........see how easy that is........

Oh....I get it

Registration won't cut down on gun crime but squealing will


What part of arresting the felon with the gun, then arresting the guy who sold him the gun with a sting don't you fucking get....that is how you actually control criminals, you arrest them and lock them up for a long time.........making an honest, law abiding citizen register guns he isn't going to use to commit a crime lowers the crime rate how?

But arresting criminals with guns...that actually lowers the crime rate....yes, I know....you went to a government school controlled by the education wing of the democrat party...so it will take you a little while to work through the points I just made.....but please try....it will be worth it to you...you will actually understand how you control gun crime....by controlling criminals who use guns to commit crimes....not by hassling the people who don't commit gun crimes.......

Try it out....work through it........you can do it...we know you can.......

The part where felons have unfettered access to guns and NRA assholes resist any effort to keep guns out of their hands

License the gun owner: That way, when you sell a gun, you know if the buyer is allowed to have a gun or not
Register all guns: That way you can track sales and find out which asshole sold him the gun


When you stop a felon...and you know he is a felon because you run his name....and he has a gun...no need to license gun owners for that....when someone robs a convenience store..and you catch them with the gun.....you arrest them...again...no need to license law abiding gun owners who didn't break the law......


And when the gun is stolen...and then sold to a criminal.....tracking the non sale is pointless...

If someone knowingly sells to criminals on a regular basis ...you set up a sting...again, no reason to license the law abiding gun owner...

If the lady down the street sells her dead husbands gun...she shouldn't get popped for a felony because you guys hate guns.....

If someone knowingly sells one gun to a felon...and the police show up...oh yeah officer, my gun was stolen out of my car.....and there you go, licensing defeated easily by a criminal...


Licensing, background checks, gun registration and magazine limits are stupid and ineffective......and easily by passed by criminals...they only catch the law abiding citizen who is inexperienced in the massive number of gun laws......
 
Registration does nothing to stop or prevent crime and it won't stop or prevent mass shootings just like background checks, and magazine limits do nothing to stop criminals from getting guns....Canada tried registration...and it failed miserably, so they stopped doing it.......

How exactly would licenses stop someone who would illegally supply a criminal with a gun ....

So genius....the guy with the license goes in, gets a background check, and sells the gun to the convicted felon...just the act of selling the gun to the felon is a felony...without the license or the background check......

So what is the fucking point to the license....it didn't stop the illegal transfer because the guy selling the gun accepted the risk that came with breaking the law...

How do you stop this....catch the felon with the gun and lock him up.....

That's why we need background checks for ALL sales.


Sorry....it isn't worth it.....if the guy sells one gun unknowingly....no problem...if he is making it a business you set up a sting just like all other illegal activity...and that means you don't have to impinge on the rights of all the other gun owners because you guys are paranoid......

And what background check stopped the rocket propelled grenades in florida.....have to check in on this but it came across the news today........

Paranoid? You are the one always saying how easy it is for criminals to get guns. And there is no shortage of crimes being commited with them. Not paranoid, just a fact. I'd like to make it harder for criminals.
 
Registration does nothing to stop or prevent crime and it won't stop or prevent mass shootings just like background checks, and magazine limits do nothing to stop criminals from getting guns....Canada tried registration...and it failed miserably, so they stopped doing it.......

How exactly would licenses stop someone who would illegally supply a criminal with a gun ....

So genius....the guy with the license goes in, gets a background check, and sells the gun to the convicted felon...just the act of selling the gun to the felon is a felony...without the license or the background check......

So what is the fucking point to the license....it didn't stop the illegal transfer because the guy selling the gun accepted the risk that came with breaking the law...

How do you stop this....catch the felon with the gun and lock him up.....

That's why we need background checks for ALL sales.


Sorry....it isn't worth it.....if the guy sells one gun unknowingly....no problem...if he is making it a business you set up a sting just like all other illegal activity...and that means you don't have to impinge on the rights of all the other gun owners because you guys are paranoid......

And what background check stopped the rocket propelled grenades in florida.....have to check in on this but it came across the news today........

Paranoid? You are the one always saying how easy it is for criminals to get guns. And there is no shortage of crimes being commited with them. Not paranoid, just a fact. I'd like to make it harder for criminals.


I would like it to be harder for criminals to get guns as well....but gun registration, background checks, magazine limits and licensing gun owners doesn't achieve that...the best way is to lock them up a long time when they are caught with guns...then you reduce the incentive to have guns for the criminals....

And yes...it is easy for criminals to get guns, both here and in Europe, but making it harder on law abiding citizens is pointless and useless....because getting law abiding citizens to obey gun laws is not the problem.....
 
Ever notice that it is always the gun fetishists who know all the ways to break the laws.

And most of them would happily break the law if they were required to obtain a background check in order to buy and sell a gun.

The gun fetishists are the problem, not the solution.

Okay....you are such a clueless hack....there is a federal background check system in place now moron........you go through it everytime you buy a gun.......
 
Registration does nothing to stop or prevent crime and it won't stop or prevent mass shootings just like background checks, and magazine limits do nothing to stop criminals from getting guns....Canada tried registration...and it failed miserably, so they stopped doing it.......

How exactly would licenses stop someone who would illegally supply a criminal with a gun ....

So genius....the guy with the license goes in, gets a background check, and sells the gun to the convicted felon...just the act of selling the gun to the felon is a felony...without the license or the background check......

So what is the fucking point to the license....it didn't stop the illegal transfer because the guy selling the gun accepted the risk that came with breaking the law...

How do you stop this....catch the felon with the gun and lock him up.....

That's why we need background checks for ALL sales.


Sorry....it isn't worth it.....if the guy sells one gun unknowingly....no problem...if he is making it a business you set up a sting just like all other illegal activity...and that means you don't have to impinge on the rights of all the other gun owners because you guys are paranoid......

And what background check stopped the rocket propelled grenades in florida.....have to check in on this but it came across the news today........

Paranoid? You are the one always saying how easy it is for criminals to get guns. And there is no shortage of crimes being commited with them. Not paranoid, just a fact. I'd like to make it harder for criminals.


I would like it to be harder for criminals to get guns as well....but gun registration, background checks, magazine limits and licensing gun owners doesn't achieve that...the best way is to lock them up a long time when they are caught with guns...then you reduce the incentive to have guns for the criminals....

And yes...it is easy for criminals to get guns, both here and in Europe, but making it harder on law abiding citizens is pointless and useless....because getting law abiding citizens to obey gun laws is not the problem.....

The thng is our jails are the fullest in the world and we still have the most gun crime. Places that do the other things however have much less gun crime.
 
Ever notice that it is always the gun fetishists who know all the ways to break the laws.

And most of them would happily break the law if they were required to obtain a background check in order to buy and sell a gun.

The gun fetishists are the problem, not the solution.

Okay....you are such a clueless hack....there is a federal background check system in place now moron........you go through it everytime you buy a gun.......

Unless it is a private sale.
 
Registration does nothing to stop or prevent crime and it won't stop or prevent mass shootings just like background checks, and magazine limits do nothing to stop criminals from getting guns....Canada tried registration...and it failed miserably, so they stopped doing it.......

How exactly would licenses stop someone who would illegally supply a criminal with a gun ....

So genius....the guy with the license goes in, gets a background check, and sells the gun to the convicted felon...just the act of selling the gun to the felon is a felony...without the license or the background check......

So what is the fucking point to the license....it didn't stop the illegal transfer because the guy selling the gun accepted the risk that came with breaking the law...

How do you stop this....catch the felon with the gun and lock him up.....

That's why we need background checks for ALL sales.


Sorry....it isn't worth it.....if the guy sells one gun unknowingly....no problem...if he is making it a business you set up a sting just like all other illegal activity...and that means you don't have to impinge on the rights of all the other gun owners because you guys are paranoid......

And what background check stopped the rocket propelled grenades in florida.....have to check in on this but it came across the news today........

Paranoid? You are the one always saying how easy it is for criminals to get guns. And there is no shortage of crimes being commited with them. Not paranoid, just a fact. I'd like to make it harder for criminals.


I would like it to be harder for criminals to get guns as well....but gun registration, background checks, magazine limits and licensing gun owners doesn't achieve that...the best way is to lock them up a long time when they are caught with guns...then you reduce the incentive to have guns for the criminals....

And yes...it is easy for criminals to get guns, both here and in Europe, but making it harder on law abiding citizens is pointless and useless....because getting law abiding citizens to obey gun laws is not the problem.....

The thng is our jails are the fullest in the world and we still have the most gun crime. Places that do the other things however have much less gun crime.

Brain...they aren't keeping gun criminals in jail..they let them out..they use gun crimes as bargaining chips.......we had 3 shooters shoot up a park...two of them had just gotten out of prison on weapons charges, sentenced to 3 years in prison, they were diverted to boot camps and were out in 18 months...and not 30 days later shot up a park and killed people....

Our jails need to be filled with violent criminals....that stops gun crime....
 
That's why we need background checks for ALL sales.


Sorry....it isn't worth it.....if the guy sells one gun unknowingly....no problem...if he is making it a business you set up a sting just like all other illegal activity...and that means you don't have to impinge on the rights of all the other gun owners because you guys are paranoid......

And what background check stopped the rocket propelled grenades in florida.....have to check in on this but it came across the news today........

Paranoid? You are the one always saying how easy it is for criminals to get guns. And there is no shortage of crimes being commited with them. Not paranoid, just a fact. I'd like to make it harder for criminals.


I would like it to be harder for criminals to get guns as well....but gun registration, background checks, magazine limits and licensing gun owners doesn't achieve that...the best way is to lock them up a long time when they are caught with guns...then you reduce the incentive to have guns for the criminals....

And yes...it is easy for criminals to get guns, both here and in Europe, but making it harder on law abiding citizens is pointless and useless....because getting law abiding citizens to obey gun laws is not the problem.....

The thng is our jails are the fullest in the world and we still have the most gun crime. Places that do the other things however have much less gun crime.

Brain...they aren't keeping gun criminals in jail..they let them out..they use gun crimes as bargaining chips.......we had 3 shooters shoot up a park...two of them had just gotten out of prison on weapons charges, sentenced to 3 years in prison, they were diverted to boot camps and were out in 18 months...and not 30 days later shot up a park and killed people....

Our jails need to be filled with violent criminals....that stops gun crime....

I don't disagree with throwing them in jail. But with the fullest jails in the world I doubt that is the answer.
 
Ever notice that it is always the gun fetishists who know all the ways to break the laws.

And most of them would happily break the law if they were required to obtain a background check in order to buy and sell a gun.

The gun fetishists are the problem, not the solution.

Okay....you are such a clueless hack....there is a federal background check system in place now moron........you go through it everytime you buy a gun.......

Unless it is a private sale.


It doesn't matter if it is a private sale....if you catch the felon who got the gun from a private sale you just arrest him....he can't have the gun in the first place.....

If someone is willing to risk going to jail by selling a gun to a felon in a private sale.....how exactly do you stop them...? And if he is just doing it once he tells the police...it was stolen out of my car.......

If it is someone selling guns privately as a criminal enterprise...you set up a sting....just like for drugs......you catch him breaking the law...

no need for universal background checks.....and the "universal" background check won't stop a private sale if the guy doesn't care about breaking the law...

How hard is this for you guys to understand.....

We have gun control laws on the books...if you commit a crime with a gun you get arrested...if you are a felon and have a gun...you get arrested.....end of story.....no need to bother law abiding citizens who don't use guns to commit crimes......
 
The US needs to do what the Japanese do. You commit a serious crime using a gun you get fucking dead. Like two weeks later. Not two decades later.
 
Sorry....it isn't worth it.....if the guy sells one gun unknowingly....no problem...if he is making it a business you set up a sting just like all other illegal activity...and that means you don't have to impinge on the rights of all the other gun owners because you guys are paranoid......

And what background check stopped the rocket propelled grenades in florida.....have to check in on this but it came across the news today........

Paranoid? You are the one always saying how easy it is for criminals to get guns. And there is no shortage of crimes being commited with them. Not paranoid, just a fact. I'd like to make it harder for criminals.


I would like it to be harder for criminals to get guns as well....but gun registration, background checks, magazine limits and licensing gun owners doesn't achieve that...the best way is to lock them up a long time when they are caught with guns...then you reduce the incentive to have guns for the criminals....

And yes...it is easy for criminals to get guns, both here and in Europe, but making it harder on law abiding citizens is pointless and useless....because getting law abiding citizens to obey gun laws is not the problem.....

The thng is our jails are the fullest in the world and we still have the most gun crime. Places that do the other things however have much less gun crime.

Brain...they aren't keeping gun criminals in jail..they let them out..they use gun crimes as bargaining chips.......we had 3 shooters shoot up a park...two of them had just gotten out of prison on weapons charges, sentenced to 3 years in prison, they were diverted to boot camps and were out in 18 months...and not 30 days later shot up a park and killed people....

Our jails need to be filled with violent criminals....that stops gun crime....

I don't disagree with throwing them in jail. But with the fullest jails in the world I doubt that is the answer.


No...it is the answer. If they are in jail they can't shoot guns at people.......pretty simple concept.....
 
Ever notice that it is always the gun fetishists who know all the ways to break the laws.

And most of them would happily break the law if they were required to obtain a background check in order to buy and sell a gun.

The gun fetishists are the problem, not the solution.

Okay....you are such a clueless hack....there is a federal background check system in place now moron........you go through it everytime you buy a gun.......

Unless it is a private sale.


It doesn't matter if it is a private sale....if you catch the felon who got the gun from a private sale you just arrest him....he can't have the gun in the first place.....

If someone is willing to risk going to jail by selling a gun to a felon in a private sale.....how exactly do you stop them...? And if he is just doing it once he tells the police...it was stolen out of my car.......

If it is someone selling guns privately as a criminal enterprise...you set up a sting....just like for drugs......you catch him breaking the law...

no need for universal background checks.....and the "universal" background check won't stop a private sale if the guy doesn't care about breaking the law...

How hard is this for you guys to understand.....

We have gun control laws on the books...if you commit a crime with a gun you get arrested...if you are a felon and have a gun...you get arrested.....end of story.....no need to bother law abiding citizens who don't use guns to commit crimes......

They are often caught after someone is shot. I prefer to catch them before.
 
The US needs to do what the Japanese do. You commit a serious crime using a gun you get fucking dead. Like two weeks later. Not two decades later.


That's not how the Japanese do it...that would probably be the Russians.....
 
Ever notice that it is always the gun fetishists who know all the ways to break the laws.

And most of them would happily break the law if they were required to obtain a background check in order to buy and sell a gun.

The gun fetishists are the problem, not the solution.

Okay....you are such a clueless hack....there is a federal background check system in place now moron........you go through it everytime you buy a gun.......

Unless it is a private sale.


It doesn't matter if it is a private sale....if you catch the felon who got the gun from a private sale you just arrest him....he can't have the gun in the first place.....

If someone is willing to risk going to jail by selling a gun to a felon in a private sale.....how exactly do you stop them...? And if he is just doing it once he tells the police...it was stolen out of my car.......

If it is someone selling guns privately as a criminal enterprise...you set up a sting....just like for drugs......you catch him breaking the law...

no need for universal background checks.....and the "universal" background check won't stop a private sale if the guy doesn't care about breaking the law...

How hard is this for you guys to understand.....

We have gun control laws on the books...if you commit a crime with a gun you get arrested...if you are a felon and have a gun...you get arrested.....end of story.....no need to bother law abiding citizens who don't use guns to commit crimes......

They are often caught after someone is shot. I prefer to catch them before.


You can't catch them before by having background checks...since all the mass shooters either passed background checks or bypassed them.....and New York stopped stop and frisk...which caught gang members with guns...there gun murder rate will now be going up.......
 
Paranoid? You are the one always saying how easy it is for criminals to get guns. And there is no shortage of crimes being commited with them. Not paranoid, just a fact. I'd like to make it harder for criminals.


I would like it to be harder for criminals to get guns as well....but gun registration, background checks, magazine limits and licensing gun owners doesn't achieve that...the best way is to lock them up a long time when they are caught with guns...then you reduce the incentive to have guns for the criminals....

And yes...it is easy for criminals to get guns, both here and in Europe, but making it harder on law abiding citizens is pointless and useless....because getting law abiding citizens to obey gun laws is not the problem.....

The thng is our jails are the fullest in the world and we still have the most gun crime. Places that do the other things however have much less gun crime.

Brain...they aren't keeping gun criminals in jail..they let them out..they use gun crimes as bargaining chips.......we had 3 shooters shoot up a park...two of them had just gotten out of prison on weapons charges, sentenced to 3 years in prison, they were diverted to boot camps and were out in 18 months...and not 30 days later shot up a park and killed people....

Our jails need to be filled with violent criminals....that stops gun crime....

I don't disagree with throwing them in jail. But with the fullest jails in the world I doubt that is the answer.


No...it is the answer. If they are in jail they can't shoot guns at people.......pretty simple concept.....

So our jails are the fullest but you think just a little fuller is the answer? Sorry but clearly other countries are doing something better. Less gun crime and less criminals in jail.
 
Ever notice that it is always the gun fetishists who know all the ways to break the laws.

And most of them would happily break the law if they were required to obtain a background check in order to buy and sell a gun.

The gun fetishists are the problem, not the solution.

Okay....you are such a clueless hack....there is a federal background check system in place now moron........you go through it everytime you buy a gun.......

Unless it is a private sale.


It doesn't matter if it is a private sale....if you catch the felon who got the gun from a private sale you just arrest him....he can't have the gun in the first place.....

If someone is willing to risk going to jail by selling a gun to a felon in a private sale.....how exactly do you stop them...? And if he is just doing it once he tells the police...it was stolen out of my car.......

If it is someone selling guns privately as a criminal enterprise...you set up a sting....just like for drugs......you catch him breaking the law...

no need for universal background checks.....and the "universal" background check won't stop a private sale if the guy doesn't care about breaking the law...

How hard is this for you guys to understand.....

We have gun control laws on the books...if you commit a crime with a gun you get arrested...if you are a felon and have a gun...you get arrested.....end of story.....no need to bother law abiding citizens who don't use guns to commit crimes......

They are often caught after someone is shot. I prefer to catch them before.


You can't catch them before by having background checks...since all the mass shooters either passed background checks or bypassed them.....and New York stopped stop and frisk...which caught gang members with guns...there gun murder rate will now be going up.......

It would make it harder to get guns.
 

The mother is lucky she didn't keep a shopping cart in her car....her kids would have been in real danger


i know i know

you could not possibly care about how kids get hurt

other then by a firearm

you drones are all the same

there is no way you could/can see that in both situations carelessness was at play
I know.....the mother could have just as well left a shopping cart in the car as a loaded gun

The kids would be at as much risk

More kids killed by shopping carts than guns
 
Ever notice that it is always the gun fetishists who know all the ways to break the laws.

And most of them would happily break the law if they were required to obtain a background check in order to buy and sell a gun.

The gun fetishists are the problem, not the solution.


Moron.....we have nuts like you trying to impose stupid, ineffective laws on law abiding gun owners....laws that will not stop one illegal gun sale, or prevent one gun crime or mass shooting...so we actually have to know how these crimes happen so we can tell you nuts just how stupid your ideas are...and how ineffective they will be with what you claim to want to stop.....cause you guys are dumb....and want laws that don't work...so we actually have to research the topic so we can try to explain to you guys that you don't know what you are doing.....

Ironic how the gun fetishist proves me right!
 

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