Another Thread About Socialism, But Better

[Biff_Poindexter]

It seems more and more people are throwing around the "S" word for the purpose of fearmongering -- and from what I have seen in these threads is that not many people know what democratic socialism is --- so instead of going into a long dissertation about what it is..


Instead, I just want to ask people here to tell me if there is any policy, program or anything else currently in use that is "socialist" -- if so, what is it and what would be a better alternative?

 

[RDD_1210]

Don't expect intelligent answers from the pond scum that live on this site. These people are for mocking, not for engaging in civil discussion....they don't know how.

 

[Pete7469]

Don't expect intelligent answers from the pond scum that live on this site. These people are for mocking, not for engaging in civil discussion....they don't know how.

Speaking for yourself obviously.

You're really to pathetic even to mock.


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[Mac1958]

Who knows what people think it means. I think the current definition is "anything Trump doesn't support".

 

[TNHarley]

Liberty and individuality is always a better alternative IMO
Some people dont want to take care of themselves. To that i say, "to each their own"
They certainly arent deserving of my labor.
For the actual helpless? We could do something on a smaller scale.

 

[miketx]

Who knows what people think it means. I think the current definition is "anything Trump doesn't support".

 

[initforme]

Thankfully we have no signs of it. I hear the term thrown around a lot but it doesn't exist here not is it any kind of threat to ever appear in the us.

 

[Mac1958]

Who knows what people think it means. I think the current definition is "anything Trump doesn't support".

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Great! So can we get to the bottom of who is advocating for the abolition of private property and government ownership of production and distribution?

Because I'm not really seeing that being advocated.
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[miketx]

Who knows what people think it means. I think the current definition is "anything Trump doesn't support".

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Great! So can we get to the bottom of who is advocating for the abolition of private property and government ownership of production and distribution?

Because I'm not really seeing that being advocated.
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Advocating a socialist United States is advocating that.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Liberty and individuality is always a better alternative IMO .

Simply taking on a policy issue and yelling "liberty and freedom" at it isn't really a policy..I usually see people like yourself never really have any policy proposals because most of you could care less about policy, just saying words that makes you feel better.

Some people dont want to take care of themselves. To that i say, "to each their own"
They certainly arent deserving of my labor..

Those lesser people don't deserve it is a popular mantra in opposition to policies that help everyone -- but we would gladly shoot ourselves in the foot if we think those lesser people get to benefit too

What makes corporations deserving of more tax cuts at your expense?

For the actual helpless? We could do something on a smaller scale.

Yea, that's still socialism...

 

[miketx]

Liberty and individuality is always a better alternative IMO .

Simply taking on a policy issue and yelling "liberty and freedom" at it isn't really a policy..I usually see people like yourself never really have any policy proposals because most of you could care less about policy, just saying words that makes you feel better.

Some people dont want to take care of themselves. To that i say, "to each their own"
They certainly arent deserving of my labor..

Those lesser people don't deserve it is a popular mantra in opposition to policies that help everyone -- but we would gladly shoot ourselves in the foot if we think those lesser people get to benefit too

What makes corporations deserving of more tax cuts at your expense?

For the actual helpless? We could do something on a smaller scale.

Yea, that's still socialism...

No it's called compassion. The rest of your rant is toilette worthy and false. The US "simply hasn't taken on a policy" we have something called a constitution.

 

[TNHarley]

Liberty and individuality is always a better alternative IMO .

Simply taking on a policy issue and yelling "liberty and freedom" at it isn't really a policy..I usually see people like yourself never really have any policy proposals because most of you could care less about policy, just saying words that makes you feel better.

Some people dont want to take care of themselves. To that i say, "to each their own"
They certainly arent deserving of my labor..

Those lesser people don't deserve it is a popular mantra in opposition to policies that help everyone -- but we would gladly shoot ourselves in the foot if we think those lesser people get to benefit too

What makes corporations deserving of more tax cuts at your expense?

For the actual helpless? We could do something on a smaller scale.

Yea, that's still socialism...

Liberty and freedom are policies
Corporations shouldnt get welfare. Im ok with tax cuts. I will almost always support people keeping more of THEIR money
Sure it is. But by smaller scale, i meant on a lot smaller scale than what we have now. Liek where only the helpless use it.

 

[Mac1958]

Who knows what people think it means. I think the current definition is "anything Trump doesn't support".

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Great! So can we get to the bottom of who is advocating for the abolition of private property and government ownership of production and distribution?

Because I'm not really seeing that being advocated.
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Advocating a socialist United States is advocating that.

You do realize most are advocating for a "democratic socialism", such as in Finland, Sweden, Norway, Britain, Germany, right?

Those are not socialist countries by definition.
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[miketx]

Who knows what people think it means. I think the current definition is "anything Trump doesn't support".

View attachment 207815

Great! So can we get to the bottom of who is advocating for the abolition of private property and government ownership of production and distribution?

Because I'm not really seeing that being advocated.
.

Advocating a socialist United States is advocating that.

You do realize most are advocating for a "democratic socialism", such as in Finland, Sweden, Norway, Britain, Germany, right?

Those are not socialist countries by definition.
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I am talking about the United states, I do not care what they do so long as it does not effect us.

 

[Mac1958]

Who knows what people think it means. I think the current definition is "anything Trump doesn't support".

View attachment 207815

Great! So can we get to the bottom of who is advocating for the abolition of private property and government ownership of production and distribution?

Because I'm not really seeing that being advocated.
.

Advocating a socialist United States is advocating that.

You do realize most are advocating for a "democratic socialism", such as in Finland, Sweden, Norway, Britain, Germany, right?

Those are not socialist countries by definition.
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I am talking about the United states, I do not care what they do so long as it does not effect us.

But aren't we talking about....

Okay.
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[TNHarley]

If they amended the Constitution, i would support free handouts more. Or simply just do them at the state level.
As of right now, these policies(most) for bedwetters are unconstitutional.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Who knows what people think it means. I think the current definition is "anything Trump doesn't support".

View attachment 207815

Great! So can we get to the bottom of who is advocating for the abolition of private property and government ownership of production and distribution?

Because I'm not really seeing that being advocated.
.

Advocating a socialist United States is advocating that.

You do realize most are advocating for a "democratic socialism", such as in Finland, Sweden, Norway, Britain, Germany, right?

Those are not socialist countries by definition.
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They are Social Democracy, indeed they aren't real Socialists because they mostly have economic Capitalist free markets.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Liberty and individuality is always a better alternative IMO
Some people dont want to take care of themselves. To that i say, "to each their own"
They certainly arent deserving of my labor.
For the actual helpless? We could do something on a smaller scale.

Even if it means paying a lot more on healthcare insurance collectively speaking?

 

[TNHarley]

Liberty and individuality is always a better alternative IMO
Some people dont want to take care of themselves. To that i say, "to each their own"
They certainly arent deserving of my labor.
For the actual helpless? We could do something on a smaller scale.

Even if it means paying a lot more on healthcare insurance collectively speaking?

A person would be hard pressed to prove the govt isnt the reason costs are so high to begin with..

 

[Mac1958]

Who knows what people think it means. I think the current definition is "anything Trump doesn't support".

View attachment 207815

Great! So can we get to the bottom of who is advocating for the abolition of private property and government ownership of production and distribution?

Because I'm not really seeing that being advocated.
.

Advocating a socialist United States is advocating that.

You do realize most are advocating for a "democratic socialism", such as in Finland, Sweden, Norway, Britain, Germany, right?

Those are not socialist countries by definition.
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They are Social Democracy, indeed they aren't real Socialists because they mostly have economic Capitalist free markets.

Correct!

Unfortunately, American conservatives don't appear to recognize that distinction.
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