Biden Vows To Shutdown Border If Congress OK's Deal

[Nostra]

Check your numbers.

The Bill limits the criteria for asylum and processes those eligible to TRY for asylum MUCH more quickly with the “surge” of money for doing so.

If the numbers threaten to overwhelm the system the border gets shut down.

And with the changes on asylum criteria , few of that “5,000” get to stay.

And oh by the way… let’s not forget that we WANT those workers to work in meat packing plants, fields, building our homes.

That last is a fact of life whether you like it or not.

How do you know what is in the bill that hasn't been released, Dumbass?

 

[eagle1462010]

First of all you can’t legally KILL. The asylum loop hole. The 14th Amendment prohibits that.

You can however limit the criteria for why amounts to a valid asylum claim and the Senate Bill does that.

Now I have read that there is no money in HR 2 for courts and judges. If you can prove that wrong please do so.

What Senate bill.

Show it or STFU

 

[Nostra]

The Senate Bill does that yes

Post the bill, liar.

 

[Nostra]

First of all you can’t legally KILL. The asylum loop hole. The 14th Amendment prohibits that.

You can however limit the criteria for why amounts to a valid asylum claim and the Senate Bill does that.

Now I have read that there is no money in HR 2 for courts and judges. If you can prove that wrong please do so.

Post the bill, liar.

 

[Not That Guy]

If current laws were actually followed, we wouldnt be having this discussion as most politicians would be in jail.

 

[Nostra]

Copy and paste the part that deals with funding courts and judges

Why? We don't need more money for that.

 

[Lesh]

I posted the bilk and CBO. Read them. Not hiding like the Senate.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/2?s=3&r=1&q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22Secure+the+Border+Act+HR+2%22%5D%7D

I read through that summary

Nothing about funding for Courts or judges

 

[Nostra]

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/2?s=3&r=1&q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22Secure+the+Border+Act+HR+2%22%5D%7D

I read through that summary

Nothing about funding for Courts or judges

Good!

 

[Lesh]

If current laws were actually followed, we wouldnt be having this discussion as most politicians would be in jail.

What current law are you talking about.

Title 8 governs this issue and it is being followed

 

[eagle1462010]

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/2?s=3&r=1&q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22Secure+the+Border+Act+HR+2%22%5D%7D

I read through that summary

Nothing about funding for Courts or judges

Section 107

 

[Lesh]

Why? We don't need more money for that.

There is a years long backlog of court cases retard. Asylum seekers have the right under the law and the Constitution to have their day in Court.

That is a huge part of the problem

By limiting asylum criteria and beefing up the Court system those that have legitimate criteria to claim asylum can be processed in weeks rather than years

And MOST will not get favorable rulings because of the criteria changes enacted in this bill

 

[Lesh]

Section 107

Try again.

Retention bonus’?

Moron

 

[Not That Guy]

What current law are you talking about.

Title 8 governs this issue and it is being followed

U.S. Const, Art. IV, Sec. 4 ("The United States SHALL ... protect each [State] against invasion")
U.S. Const., Art. II, Sec. 3 (“[The President] SHALL take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed.”)
8 USC 1325 ("Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States . . . SHALL . . . be fined . . . or imprisoned . . . or both")
8 USC 1324 (”Any person who…(iv) encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States…; or (v)(I) . . . conspir[es]…or (II) aids or abets [these] acts, SHALL be punished…for each alien.”)
8 USC 1324 ("Any person who . . . conceals, harbors, or shields [an] alien . . . SHALL be imprisoned not more than 5 years.”)

Just for starters

 

[bigrebnc1775]

H.R. 2, Secure the Border Act of 2023

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/immigration/border-coverage/immigration-backlog-3-
million/amp/

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/2/te

It's a sham to line the pockets of the Biden mob

 

[Not That Guy]

There is a years long backlog of court cases retard. Asylum seekers have the right under the law and the Constitution to have their day in Court.

That is a huge part of the problem

By limiting asylum criteria and beefing up the Court system those that have legitimate criteria to claim asylum can be processed in weeks rather than years

And MOST will not get favorable rulings because of the criteria changes enacted in this bill

Those who sneak across the border, or do not enter the country through one of our 28 ports are not assylum seekers, they are terrorists. Invaders, enemy combatants.

Kick them out.

 

[postman]

How do you know what is in the bill that hasn't been released, Dumbass?

Because the people writing it, tell us what's in it.

Dummy!!!

 

[Nostra]

There is a years long backlog of court cases retard. Asylum seekers have the right under the law and the Constitution to have their day in Court.

That is a huge part of the problem

By limiting asylum criteria and beefing up the Court system those that have legitimate criteria to claim asylum can be processed in weeks rather than years

And MOST will not get favorable rulings because of the criteria changes enacted in this bill

Just kick them out and tell them to do it the right way.

 

[White 6]

And the demise of the steel industry is NOT Reagan's fault. Blame the opening of the St. Lawrence Seaway for that.

True, just coincides, but lots of things, just happen to coincide, with a Presidential administration, affect the economy that a president is not responsible for, bad and good.

Was Donny responsible for the economy shutting down during Covid? Was he really responsible for the oil industry, not going back to full production long after other industries and factories saw their workers return and went back to cranking out product? When he signed the Covid relief that literally dumped trillion$ of free money into the economy mostly as he was leaving office, was Joe really responsible for the inflation that started, as business started raising prices on goods, with all the trillions of sudden cheap money in the hands of people, and the inflationary pressure of too many dollars chasing too few goods? Yet, all big economic things good and bad are remembered and associated with the President in office at the time.

 

[Nostra]

Because the people writing it, tell us what's in it.

Dummy!!!

And you are stupid enough to buy it.

 

[postman]

You can however limit the criteria for why amounts to a valid asylum claim and the Senate Bill does that.

Now I have read that there is no money in HR 2 for courts and judges. If you can prove that wrong please do so.

Post the bill, liar.

Which bill are you talking about. The senate bill (work in progress) or HR-2 which has been on the congressional website since 2022?