Black people represent 6% of the pop. yet they account for 40% of cases of unarmed death by police

[Ray From Cleveland]

Although black fathers are more likely to live separately from their children — the statistic that’s usually trotted out to prove the parenting “crisis” — many of them remain just as involved in their kids’ lives. Pew estimates that 67 percent of black dads who don’t live with their kids see them at least once a month, compared to 59 percent of white dads and just 32 percent of Hispanic dads.

And there’s compelling evidence that number of black dads living apart from their kids stems from structural systems of inequality and poverty, not the unfounded assumption that African-American men somehow place less value on parenting. Equal numbers of black dads and white dads tend to agree that it’s important to be a father who provides emotional support, discipline, and moral guidance. There’s one area of divergence in the way the two groups approach their parental responsibilities: Black dads are even more likely to think it’s important to financially provide for their children.

Thinking it's important and actually supporting them are two different things.

I never implied that dads are not part of a child's life, but a full-time dad makes a huge difference.

An out of control child that sees their father a couple times a month doesn't fear him except for those rare visits if that.

Going back to my police scanner, when this was a white neighborhood, I never once heard a call to the police from a mother about her child. When I grew up in the 60's and 70's, we had bad kids too, but in most cases, those bad kids came from single-parent homes that were beginning to form at that time.

 

[JQPublic1]

Blacks make up 13.3% of the population, asshole

Population estimates, July 1, 2015, (V2015)

Now, what percentage of homicides in this country do they commit?

Almost half

Expanded Homicide Data Table 6

If those stats are true, where is that "thin blue line" that is supposed to be protecting good Black citizens from murder? 40 years and nothing has changed!

 

[OKTexas]

It's amazing RWs just blindly defend cops when it comes to black people yet will bitch and moan of the rights of armed white thugs taking over government buildings. The hypocrisy is astounding.

Black Men: 6% of Population; 40% of Unarmed People Shot to Death by Police This Year

Heard on the radio today that they are 13 times more likely to be killed by another black man than a cop. Also heard 5 whites were killed by cops last week, where's the white lives matter protests?

 

[Ame®icano]

What does the alleged Black birth rate have to do with cops killing so many unarmed Black males?

I can't answer for anybody else, but without a father figure in their life, these black kids grow up with no respect for authority. So they eventually end up in a scuffle with the police and police are allowed to defend themselves in any way they can.

I used to listen to my police scanner every night. If they didn't go to digital, I would still be listening.

Anyway, half of the calls police got in my suburb were black mothers calling the cops on their own children. Once these black kids hit the teen years, the mother can no longer control them. Without a father figure in the house, the police are the only people these mothers can rely on to discipline their kids.

It got so consistent that council finally passed a law that any more than three calls a year to a resident, the owner of the property will see a bill for each additional call to the police on their property tax.

yeah, you're not a racist or anything...huh?

Nope, only in your twisted head.

 

[JQPublic1]

Although black fathers are more likely to live separately from their children — the statistic that’s usually trotted out to prove the parenting “crisis” — many of them remain just as involved in their kids’ lives. Pew estimates that 67 percent of black dads who don’t live with their kids see them at least once a month, compared to 59 percent of white dads and just 32 percent of Hispanic dads.

And there’s compelling evidence that number of black dads living apart from their kids stems from structural systems of inequality and poverty, not the unfounded assumption that African-American men somehow place less value on parenting. Equal numbers of black dads and white dads tend to agree that it’s important to be a father who provides emotional support, discipline, and moral guidance. There’s one area of divergence in the way the two groups approach their parental responsibilities: Black dads are even more likely to think it’s important to financially provide for their children.

Thinking it's important and actually supporting them are two different things.

I never implied that dads are not part of a child's life, but a full-time dad makes a huge difference.

An out of control child that sees their father a couple times a month doesn't fear him except for those rare visits if that.

Going back to my police scanner, when this was a white neighborhood, I never once heard a call to the police from a mother about her child. When I grew up in the 60's and 70's, we had bad kids too, but in most cases, those bad kids came from single-parent homes that were beginning to form at that time.

They do support them financial. Most Black dads pay their court ordered child support. You still haven't made good case to support your contention that illegitimacy is a big factor in cop related shootings of unarmed people. What is the crucial difference between the shooting of a kid with a father and the shooting of a kid who doesn't know his father at all? The recent cop killing in Minnesota certainly didn't meet your prerequisite of illegitimacy. The Kid had a CCW and a job as a chef. He did nothing wrong but was destined to be murdered whether he had a father or not in his life.

 

[Billy000]

Billy-boy, blacks are 13% of our population.

Ok well I gave a source for my stat and you didn't so you blow chunks and I don't. Congratulations.

dude, the census says it's 13% of the population. that would have made your point equally well and wouldn't have resulted in a discussion that intentionally deflected from your point...which is that blacks are inordinately killed by cops.

Population estimates, July 1, 2015, (V2015)

Dude, you splitting hairs over the stat only further deflects from the main point. You notice that right?

 

[OKTexas]

Billy-boy, blacks are 13% of our population.

Ok well I gave a source for my stat and you didn't so you blow chunks and I don't. Congratulations.

dude, the census says it's 13% of the population. that would have made your point equally well and wouldn't have resulted in a discussion that intentionally deflected from your point...which is that blacks are inordinately killed by cops.

Population estimates, July 1, 2015, (V2015)

Except if anyone had bothered to actually read the title of the link, it said "black men" are 6% of the population.

 

[JQPublic1]

It's amazing RWs just blindly defend cops when it comes to black people yet will bitch and moan of the rights of armed white thugs taking over government buildings. The hypocrisy is astounding.

Black Men: 6% of Population; 40% of Unarmed People Shot to Death by Police This Year

Heard on the radio today that they are 13 times more likely to be killed by another black man than a cop. Also heard 5 whites were killed by cops last week, where's the white lives matter protests?

Were the White guys unarmed and helpless?

 

[ClosedCaption]

You have to wonder why they run into the police so often? Could it be that young black males commit a lot of crime and are normally armed?

Or could any of it be the targeting of those people and when found of a minor offense face more chances of being put in jail than whites?

 

[OKTexas]

Although black fathers are more likely to live separately from their children — the statistic that’s usually trotted out to prove the parenting “crisis” — many of them remain just as involved in their kids’ lives. Pew estimates that 67 percent of black dads who don’t live with their kids see them at least once a month, compared to 59 percent of white dads and just 32 percent of Hispanic dads.

And there’s compelling evidence that number of black dads living apart from their kids stems from structural systems of inequality and poverty, not the unfounded assumption that African-American men somehow place less value on parenting. Equal numbers of black dads and white dads tend to agree that it’s important to be a father who provides emotional support, discipline, and moral guidance. There’s one area of divergence in the way the two groups approach their parental responsibilities: Black dads are even more likely to think it’s important to financially provide for their children.

Thinking it's important and actually supporting them are two different things.

I never implied that dads are not part of a child's life, but a full-time dad makes a huge difference.

An out of control child that sees their father a couple times a month doesn't fear him except for those rare visits if that.

Going back to my police scanner, when this was a white neighborhood, I never once heard a call to the police from a mother about her child. When I grew up in the 60's and 70's, we had bad kids too, but in most cases, those bad kids came from single-parent homes that were beginning to form at that time.

They do support them financial. Most Black dads pay their court ordered child support. You still haven't made good case to support your contention that illegitimacy is a big factor in cop related shootings of unarmed people. What is the crucial difference between the shooting of a kid with a father and the shooting of a kid who doesn't know his father at all? The recent cop killing in Minnesota certainly didn't meet your prerequisite of illegitimacy. The Kid had a CCW and a job as a chef. He did nothing wrong but was destined to be murdered whether he had a father or not in his life.

From what I've seen the officer in MN over reacted, you don't fire until you physically see a gun coming toward you. But to Rays point, black kids raised in a home with an absent father are more likely to live in poverty, more likely to drop out of school and according to Larry Elder on Hannity tonight 20 times more likely to go to jail. So yes an in home father means a bunch.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Or could any of it be the targeting of those people and when found of a minor offense face more chances of being put in jail than whites?

First you would have to prove they were "targeted" which is a liberal lie in the first place.

Secondly, even if they were "targeted," if you behave in a respectful manor with police and do as you're told, in almost all cases, the police will return the same respect.

 

[OKTexas]

It's amazing RWs just blindly defend cops when it comes to black people yet will bitch and moan of the rights of armed white thugs taking over government buildings. The hypocrisy is astounding.

Black Men: 6% of Population; 40% of Unarmed People Shot to Death by Police This Year

Heard on the radio today that they are 13 times more likely to be killed by another black man than a cop. Also heard 5 whites were killed by cops last week, where's the white lives matter protests?

Were the White guys unarmed and helpless?

Neither the one in LA or MN were unarmed. I don't know enough about LA to make a comment, but I've already said absent new evidence I think the officer in MN committed manslaughter.
BTW why did you jump right over the first stat?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

They do support them financial. Most Black dads pay their court ordered child support. You still haven't made good case to support your contention that illegitimacy is a big factor in cop related shootings of unarmed people. What is the crucial difference between the shooting of a kid with a father and the shooting of a kid who doesn't know his father at all? The recent cop killing in Minnesota certainly didn't meet your prerequisite of illegitimacy. The Kid had a CCW and a job as a chef. He did nothing wrong but was destined to be murdered whether he had a father or not in his life.

Wait until a complete investigation to determine exactly what happened. If the officer acted irrationally, he will face charges like all the others. There is no such thing as all good cops. Most of them? Yes, but not all.

The out of wedlock birth rate in the US for blacks is around 72%. We also find that blacks are responsible for a disproportionate amount of crimes in the US. I guess that's just a coincidence, huh?

 

[Markle]

It's amazing RWs just blindly defend cops when it comes to black people yet will bitch and moan of the rights of armed white thugs taking over government buildings. The hypocrisy is astounding.

Black Men: 6% of Population; 40% of Unarmed People Shot to Death by Police This Year

What's your point? Since blacks as a whole are 12.5% of the population, that means black female make up 6.5% of the population. They have an over 70% bastard birth rate.

That is the sad result of the Lyndon Johnson "War on Poverty" and his Great Society. Prior to that time the black family unit was one of the strongest in the country. The terms of the War on Poverty STRONGLY ENCOURAGED women to NOT marry and thereby they received more in benefits. This caused additional problems of leaving men, without being the head of a household, with nothing to do. Idle hands are the devil's playground.

 

[bripat9643]

It's amazing RWs just blindly defend cops when it comes to black people yet will bitch and moan of the rights of armed white thugs taking over government buildings. The hypocrisy is astounding.

Black Men: 6% of Population; 40% of Unarmed People Shot to Death by Police This Year

First error: blacks account for something like 13% of the population.

 

[OKTexas]

It's amazing RWs just blindly defend cops when it comes to black people yet will bitch and moan of the rights of armed white thugs taking over government buildings. The hypocrisy is astounding.

Black Men: 6% of Population; 40% of Unarmed People Shot to Death by Police This Year

First error: blacks account for something like 13% of the population.

First, read. It says black men are 6%, not blacks.

 

[JQPublic1]

Although black fathers are more likely to live separately from their children — the statistic that’s usually trotted out to prove the parenting “crisis” — many of them remain just as involved in their kids’ lives. Pew estimates that 67 percent of black dads who don’t live with their kids see them at least once a month, compared to 59 percent of white dads and just 32 percent of Hispanic dads.

And there’s compelling evidence that number of black dads living apart from their kids stems from structural systems of inequality and poverty, not the unfounded assumption that African-American men somehow place less value on parenting. Equal numbers of black dads and white dads tend to agree that it’s important to be a father who provides emotional support, discipline, and moral guidance. There’s one area of divergence in the way the two groups approach their parental responsibilities: Black dads are even more likely to think it’s important to financially provide for their children.

Thinking it's important and actually supporting them are two different things.

I never implied that dads are not part of a child's life, but a full-time dad makes a huge difference.

An out of control child that sees their father a couple times a month doesn't fear him except for those rare visits if that.

Going back to my police scanner, when this was a white neighborhood, I never once heard a call to the police from a mother about her child. When I grew up in the 60's and 70's, we had bad kids too, but in most cases, those bad kids came from single-parent homes that were beginning to form at that time.

They do support them financial. Most Black dads pay their court ordered child support. You still haven't made good case to support your contention that illegitimacy is a big factor in cop related shootings of unarmed people. What is the crucial difference between the shooting of a kid with a father and the shooting of a kid who doesn't know his father at all? The recent cop killing in Minnesota certainly didn't meet your prerequisite of illegitimacy. The Kid had a CCW and a job as a chef. He did nothing wrong but was destined to be murdered whether he had a father or not in his life.

From what I've seen the officer in MN over reacted, you don't fire until you physically see a gun coming toward you. But to Rays point, black kids raised in a home with an absent father are more likely to live in poverty, more likely to drop out of school and according to Larry Elder on Hannity tonight 20 times more likely to go to jail. So yes an in home father means a bunch.

You are still mixing apples with oranges. Nothing you said explains why a guy reaching for his wallet is shot by a cop or how a man running from a cop is shot in the back or why a cop named Case bolt pulled his pistol on kids at a pool party. Illegitimacy didn't enter into those cases at all. The 30% of Blacks NOT born out of wedlock are in just as much danger from cops as those born out of wedlock. The cop doesn't give a shit about any of that. Too many cops see Black males through the lens of homicide statistics blown way out of proportion.. They don't give one iota about the guy's birth data.

 

[GHook93]

It's amazing RWs just blindly defend cops when it comes to black people yet will bitch and moan of the rights of armed white thugs taking over government buildings. The hypocrisy is astounding.

Black Men: 6% of Population; 40% of Unarmed People Shot to Death by Police This Year

Not citing any sources is pretty bad even for a lame liberal cite.

Black men might be 6% of the country, but they make up 60-70% of the homicide victims and 60%-70% of the killers.

 

[JQPublic1]

It's amazing RWs just blindly defend cops when it comes to black people yet will bitch and moan of the rights of armed white thugs taking over government buildings. The hypocrisy is astounding.

Black Men: 6% of Population; 40% of Unarmed People Shot to Death by Police This Year

First error: blacks account for something like 13% of the population.

Black MEN are 6% of the population.. the first error is you appearing here.

 

[JQPublic1]

It's amazing RWs just blindly defend cops when it comes to black people yet will bitch and moan of the rights of armed white thugs taking over government buildings. The hypocrisy is astounding.

Black Men: 6% of Population; 40% of Unarmed People Shot to Death by Police This Year

Not citing any sources is pretty bad even for a lame liberal cite.

Black men might be 6% of the country, but they make up 60-70% of the homicide victims and 60%-70% of the killers.

How many homicides did Blacks commit in 2015? do you know?