Black republicans...who are they really?

[Papageorgio]

How are Republicans supposed to have blacks elected in our party when there are so few blacks in our party?

This is when YOU become a nitwit because of your own rhetoric and biases......

Throughout this thread you right wingers "praise" those blacks that vote republican as ENLIGHTENED......If that were truly the case, would not these enlightened blacks be PERFECT candidates for many elected positions for your equality-driven GOP??

That's too rational for these people! When they have reputable Blacks backing them like Powell, they end up disappointing him or using him for means other than truth like promoting idea of WMD's in IRAQ! His reputation is tarnished for all time when he very well could have run for President himself! Proves you can't dance with the Devil without being burned!

You really should to be better informed on the events leading up to the removal of Saddam, and the views of your political party, ignorance doesn't suit you.


Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 - Declares that it should be the policy of the United States to seek to remove the Saddam Hussein regime from power in Iraq and to replace it with a democratic government.

H.R.4655 - 105th Congress (1997-1998): Iraq Liberation Act of 1998

William J. Clinton: Statement on Signing the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.

"There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

They aren't interested in facts, just left wing propaganda. They will claim all you posted doesn't matter.

 

[nat4900]

Yet another case of you liberal slave masters using fear in place of the whip to keep your slaves in line. A minimum wage increase will only cut jobs at McDonalds, and this crap with voter ID laws is just that, crap. You have to have I'd to get food stamps moron. Getting I'd is free. You lib racist need to come up with new matreial.

Be proud, right wingers, of having this nitwit in your midst.......

Raising the minimum wage....according to this moron....is tantamount to "enslaving" people.
Seocndly, the implication by this idiot is clear........since you need an ID to get food stamps, you should not bitch about showing that ID when voting........AS if voter ID laws impact ONLY people on food stamps.

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Continue to be ignorant or show your ignorance, because you are trying to suggest that the minimum wage law should now be used as a living wage law instead of a introductory ground floor wage law ? The socialist communist style managers/ceo's of these companies do love your idiotic position taken on this. Why ? Because they look at it to say "OK", we will make the minimum wage a living wage across the board then, and that will be set as the labor rate for laborers. If want more one will have to move up into management.

They are loving it, because if the government starts forcing companies to set the labor rate for labor at a specific living wage, and it is to be considered a living wage not based upon a structural pay grade system that is usually run freely by any company, then they are enacting socialist policies when doing this or they are opening the gates for companies to happily go along with it all.

The labor force don't need blanketing socialist policy making, but what it needs is investigations that look into companies that do not have a structural pay grade system, and are trying to use blanket socialist policies to cheat their achieving employees out of their just rewards or a fair share in the profits that should be given under an independent structural pay grade system. The pay grade system should be a system that is unique to the specific company or corporation worked for, and not one that the government should have it's nose in, other than making sure a company is running a structural pay grade system where there is an entrance pay, and then a ladder system after that in which ends with an exit strategy if the employee remains loyal for years & years to the company. No need to dictate anything, but merely just maybe ask that companies demonstrate good practices & policies for their employees.

What a bunch of rambling inanities. Raising the minimum wage does NOT amount to paying someone a living wage. You may notice that many workers in food joints or Wall Marts, are not just high school kids working part-time during summer months....many, if not most,of these people have families to support and management at these pseudo-slave companies know darn well that support for these families has to be given through government support in subsidizing the meager wages AND in the provision of health and other benefits.

We have long left it up to these companies to do "the right thing"....and all we've gotten in return is millionaires becoming billionaires and poor people becoming even more destitute......

......and then....AGAIN.....you right wing nitwits "wonder" why most minorities don't trust any of your empty rhetoric???

 

[Campbell]

You guys blame us for everything even your own failures.

The other day you guys were saying places like Detroit suck because they are run by liberals. Now you're claiming cities and states run by cons suck because of liberals? What an intellectually dishonest simpleton you are

For right wingers "blaming liberals" for all that may be wrong with our society, is a hell of a lot easier (and dumber) than coming to term with their own screwed up mindset.

They can't even spell introspective. :0) They no idea what that means.

Yea but don't you think blacks in places like Chicago Detroit Newark Compton and Ferguson are guilty of this too?

I think mlk would give young black men this same advice. Be well spoken. Get an education. Don't have kids and then don't raise them right. In other words stop giving whites reasons to discriminate. For example If a well spoken black doesn't get the job it looks racist but when the black guy can't speak intelligently you give whites justification why they didn't hire the black.

It's very easy to sit back and do nothing but criticize.

 

[nat4900]

First off, you are easily conned as are most liberals and I don't know your skin color, nor do I care.

Secondly, tough con game waged by the DNC, especially when libs fall for the con job.

I bet that your half brain actually thought that the above was a "clever" retort.......As I've often stated, you cannot fix stupidity of some right wingers on this venue........often only a sturdy 2x4 can get through the stupid mindset.

 

[Papageorgio]

Yesterday, a heated "debate" (well, as much of a debate that can be had in this mostly right wing forum) was had about one poster's friend who, as a liberal, spoke about a right wing friend who claimed that a good part of the hatred toward Obama was based on race.

I do NOT believe that opposition toward Obama is wholly based on race.....however, to deny that some racism does not exist toward Obama's presidency, would be equally naive.

So, what would make someone who is black and relatively intelligent, embrace the GOP platform that is often enmeshed in policies that are not for the betterment of the black voting bloc?

I am reminded of a passage in Milton's Paradise Lost where Lucifer explains why he chose to defy God's wishes (and PLEASE, I do not mean even remotely to equate a black republican to the devil......but the analogy is still sound.) ........Anyway, through Milton's prose, Lucifer explains that he would rather be a "king in hell" than just one of many other angel standing beside the throne of God.

What I'm getting at is that for SOME blacks who have chosen to embrace right wing policies may do so because the notoriety gained by such a stance is much more self serving than to be one of the vast majority of blacks who side with the left ideology. In other words, if you want to get on the FOX channels or the Rush radio talk shows, your chances are vastly improved if you claim that you are an arch conservative AND black.

That's how the left works. They find a few issues and then if you don't go for them they out you or ostracize you, that's how they keep that. Those policies are not good for blacks. Blacks and liberals run the majority black areas and cities and yet they are still hell holes. I love how people like you are so duplicitous, by saying things in black areas are so bad we need more programs, but if a Republican points out how bad black areas are, they are stereotyping an racist. Hmmmm you guys have it both ways.

Things were getting better for blacks in Detroit and flint then Republicans invented NAFTA and sent those jobs overseas.

All for corporate profits and cheap consumer goods.

Was that the biil, Bill Clinton sign and Hillary loved? It was a bill that if not signed, would have been dead. Funny how Bill and Hillary are now exempt from it.

 

[Papageorgio]

First off, you are easily conned as are most liberals and I don't know your skin color, nor do I care.

Secondly, tough con game waged by the DNC, especially when libs fall for the con job.

I bet that your half brain actually thought that the above was a "clever" retort.......As I've often stated, you cannot fix stupidity of some right wingers on this venue........often only a sturdy 2x4 can get through the stupid mindset.

I agree, you are a dumb as they come, that is why you are part of the regressive left.

 

[Papageorgio]

You are not a republican nutter, you talk about sides, so you are a lefty nutter, just like righty nutters you are part of the problem and lie to make yourself think you are justified.

Nothing you have suggested has helped either. Your racial overtones are pretty funny. Nothing about our President is scary. I don't like his policies but he is still the President. I don't let silly partisan politics get in the way of respect. I know you do, but you, like I said am not a partisan nut job.

No, you are a non-partisan nutjob... and I do love the space i occupy in your head rent-free.

Nice to know I got you again. Thanks!

 

[sealybobo]

My fight is a fight for a system that all can believe in.

And yet you proudly proclaim voting for Liberals...

The GOP way produces a small rich class, small merchant class and the rabble/surfs/peasants masses of working poor. We've seen this before in England but instead of Kings we have koch's.

You sent jobs overseas because labor was costing the corporations you serve too much. Yes unions say protect the American workers. Tariff

 

[sealybobo]

Things were getting better for blacks in Detroit and flint then Republicans invented NAFTA and sent those jobs overseas.

All for corporate profits and cheap consumer goods.

Not to be too picky here.....but the first couple of letter of the acronym, NAFTA......actually imply that the jobs could NOT have gone overseas.......Try just stating that many jobs went to Mexico (and a few to Canada)

When I say NAFTA I really mean all free trade including India and china

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

What a bunch of rambling inanities. Raising the minimum wage does NOT amount to paying someone a living wage. You may notice that many workers in food joints or Wall Marts, are not just high school kids working part-time during summer months....many, if not most,of these people have families to support and management at these pseudo-slave companies know darn well that support for these families has to be given through government support in subsidizing the meager wages AND in the provision of health and other benefits.

• Minimum wage workers tend to be young. Although workers under age 25 represented only about one-fifth of hourly-paid workers, they made up about half of those paid the Federal minimum wage or less. Among employed teenagers paid by the hour, about 23 percent earned the minimum wage or less, compared with about 3 percent of workers age 25 and over. (See table 1 and table 7.)

Characteristics of Minimum Wage Workers: 2011

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The GOP way produces a small rich class, small merchant class and the rabble/surfs/peasants masses of working poor. We've seen this before in England but instead of Kings we have koch's.

You sent jobs overseas because labor was costing the corporations you serve too much. Yes unions say protect the American workers. Tariff

Government doesn't send jobs overseas--private companies do.

Unions have said and done a lot of things. It's one of the reasons those companies moved out of the country and took their jobs with them.

 

[sealybobo]

Yesterday, a heated "debate" (well, as much of a debate that can be had in this mostly right wing forum) was had about one poster's friend who, as a liberal, spoke about a right wing friend who claimed that a good part of the hatred toward Obama was based on race.

I do NOT believe that opposition toward Obama is wholly based on race.....however, to deny that some racism does not exist toward Obama's presidency, would be equally naive.

So, what would make someone who is black and relatively intelligent, embrace the GOP platform that is often enmeshed in policies that are not for the betterment of the black voting bloc?

I am reminded of a passage in Milton's Paradise Lost where Lucifer explains why he chose to defy God's wishes (and PLEASE, I do not mean even remotely to equate a black republican to the devil......but the analogy is still sound.) ........Anyway, through Milton's prose, Lucifer explains that he would rather be a "king in hell" than just one of many other angel standing beside the throne of God.

What I'm getting at is that for SOME blacks who have chosen to embrace right wing policies may do so because the notoriety gained by such a stance is much more self serving than to be one of the vast majority of blacks who side with the left ideology. In other words, if you want to get on the FOX channels or the Rush radio talk shows, your chances are vastly improved if you claim that you are an arch conservative AND black.

That's how the left works. They find a few issues and then if you don't go for them they out you or ostracize you, that's how they keep that. Those policies are not good for blacks. Blacks and liberals run the majority black areas and cities and yet they are still hell holes. I love how people like you are so duplicitous, by saying things in black areas are so bad we need more programs, but if a Republican points out how bad black areas are, they are stereotyping an racist. Hmmmm you guys have it both ways.

Things were getting better for blacks in Detroit and flint then Republicans invented NAFTA and sent those jobs overseas.

All for corporate profits and cheap consumer goods.

Was that the biil, Bill Clinton sign and Hillary loved? It was a bill that if not signed, would have been dead. Funny how Bill and Hillary are now exempt from it.

You know NAFTA was a done deal.

Oh imagine what Republicans would have said if Clinton killed free trade.

Do you know how much Republicans changed NAFTA since bush got into office? I could show you so many examples of Tom delay bush Chaney and Dennis hastert fucking the American worker. But you defended it. You said it meant cheaper goods remember? Now you care about blue collar Americans?

 

[nat4900]

Unions have said and done a lot of things. It's one of the reasons those companies moved out of the country and took their jobs with them.

Ahhhhh extortion at its worst......Those companies should lose their status as a US company...regardless whether they maintain a P.O.Box in Delaware.

 

[sealybobo]

The GOP way produces a small rich class, small merchant class and the rabble/surfs/peasants masses of working poor. We've seen this before in England but instead of Kings we have koch's.

You sent jobs overseas because labor was costing the corporations you serve too much. Yes unions say protect the American workers. Tariff

Government doesn't send jobs overseas--private companies do.

Unions have said and done a lot of things. It's one of the reasons those companies moved out of the country and took their jobs with them.

No dummy if we tariff them they don't go.

And why didn't they go to Arkansas or Oklahoma? I'd have no complaint if they just went to Kentucky.

 

[sealybobo]

Unions have said and done a lot of things. It's one of the reasons those companies moved out of the country and took their jobs with them.

Ahhhhh extortion at its worst......Those companies should lose their status as a US company...regardless whether they maintain a P.O.Box in Delaware.

In rays world corporations call all the shots. We the people are at their mercy.

Let the market decide

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Glad that Beagle found my post "funny"....Simple minds find humor in the weirdest of places.

I am guessing that is because there isn't a "stupid" ranking you can give a post.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

No dummy if we tariff them they don't go.

And why didn't they go to Arkansas or Oklahoma? I'd have no complaint if they just went to Kentucky.

If they tariff them, they simply increase the price of their product to consumers.

George Bush tried that tariff thing when he wanted to stop importing steel. The countries that he placed a tariff on put a tariff on our exports causing a exports to drastically slow down. Tariffs are not the answer.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

In rays world corporations call all the shots. We the people are at their mercy.

Let the market decide

We are at their mercy. They have the jobs and Americans need jobs.

It's the rule of man with the gold. The man with the gold makes the rules.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Ahhhhh extortion at its worst......Those companies should lose their status as a US company...regardless whether they maintain a P.O.Box in Delaware.

It's extortion if a company can no longer make products in the US, but it's not extortion if somehow the government removes this so-called status?

 

[BlackAsCoal]

You think I should be voting with you assholes?

You should vote for what's best for our country, not what's best for a single race...

Fuck that .. and fuck people who think there is a difference.

And you're calling who a racist? Need to do a little self reflecting before you label anyone...

sure

Hypocrisy looks like you...

Gee .. did you accomplish that all by yourself.

Moron :0)