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Yeah ? And what makes it a "fact" ? You saying so ? Now if you were God, I might accept what you say, but since you're just someWrong. It's a fact.
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Yeah ? And what makes it a "fact" ? You saying so ? Now if you were God, I might accept what you say, but since you're just someWrong. It's a fact.
But it doesn't, because it's the whites who "do better" in the NFL. So it makes you wonder why there are so few of them, compared to blacks.All these reasoning why there is no discrimination against white in sport also shows why there is not discrimination in favor of asians in Math? Why not realize that different races have different traits and one just do better and certain things and that explains the difference of demographic.
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Yeah ? And what makes it a "fact" ? You saying so ? Now if you were God, I might accept what you say, but since you're just someWrong. It's a fact.brain glunk posting in a computer forum, without a shred of evidence to back up your words, then NO, it's NOT a fact at all. It's a hunch. That's all you've got. Nothing more. And it's not even a very good hunch.
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Sure the defense was excellent. I give credit. But the topic of the thread doesn't relate so much to the good play of the black players, when the question is why are there so relatively few white players, when many white players have distinguished themselves in 6 Super Bowls.The thing here is that the Patriots did not let the other team scree a touchdown in the last super bowl and all your great whites could only score 13 points The Patriots defense won this last superbowl.
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Oh so now you're gonna brag about what you could do, and try to one up me, huh ?I don't care what you don't accept. It is a fact. I am a man who played football with friends and a brother who went pro. You are a puss filled scab crying about a sport you were not good enough to play.
This s the winning TD for the Patriots SB 2 years ago.
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The only thing white about him was his last name. He won super bowl 51 for the Patriots.
James White
During Super Bowl LI against the Atlanta Falcons, White had 139 total yards (29 rushing, 110 receiving). He joined Roger Craig as the only running back with 100+ receiving yards in a Super Bowl and broke Denver Broncos wide receiver Demaryius Thomas's previous record for most receptions in a Super Bowl, which came in a 43–8 loss to the Seattle Seahawks in Super Bowl XLVIII, with 14. He scored three touchdowns and a two-point conversion, setting a record for points in a Super Bowl, with 20.
Sure the defense was excellent. I give credit. But the topic of the thread doesn't relate so much to the good play of the black players, when the question is why are there so relatively few white players, when many white players have distinguished themselves in 6 Super Bowls.The thing here is that the Patriots did not let the other team scree a touchdown in the last super bowl and all your great whites could only score 13 points The Patriots defense won this last superbowl.
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It's not a comparison of white and black players. It is the white players' good performance, that is relevant to the thread OP/topic. > that brings up the question of Affirmative Action. Get it ?
It's kind of like when Hank Aaron said "I'm not comparing myself to Babe Ruth, and I never said I was better than him. I just want to be recognized for what I do."
Good point.
This s the winning TD for the Patriots SB 2 years ago.
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The only thing white about him was his last name. He won super bowl 51 for the Patriots.
James White
During Super Bowl LI against the Atlanta Falcons, White had 139 total yards (29 rushing, 110 receiving). He joined Roger Craig as the only running back with 100+ receiving yards in a Super Bowl and broke Denver Broncos wide receiver Demaryius Thomas's previous record for most receptions in a Super Bowl, which came in a 43–8 loss to the Seattle Seahawks in Super Bowl XLVIII, with 14. He scored three touchdowns and a two-point conversion, setting a record for points in a Super Bowl, with 20.
What's the matter You dense ? You flunked reading comprehension ? You got eyesight trouble ? I told you this isn't about black vs white. The only reason I posted information about white players being competent, is to show a lack of reason for an overpopulation of black players.
But with you turning the thread into a black/white contest, just shows your inner racism. Get a life.
I saw that post and it lists players who are actually in the NFL. It sort of means that they are not victims.Very careless of you to come into a thread late, not bother to read it (so you could know what you're talking about), and then proceed blind, to make FALSE and utterly imbecile statements, because of your own careless ignorance/foolishness.So name some of these "high calibre" players who are missing out. Because at the moment you have nothing.
The high caliber players (25 of them) were listed in detail in Post # 132, Mr Careless, and also examples of the 6 time Super Bowl winning New England Patriots,even shown in
repeatedly in this thread, in color photos,
Back to the reading assignment for you.
PS - all this scolding for your careless stupidity, also goes to the 2 numbskulls who clicked "Thank You" for this foolish post.
A lot of use of the word "would" in that post. Lots of speculation. What is not speculation though, is an abundance of black players in the NFL, who keep on losing to white players (the Patriots).This is not a "lib issue" or a "racial issue". You and the idiot OP are the ones who are race baiting and repeating yourselves and sounding absurd.
If there was actually anti white discrimination in the NFL, white people would not be turning out by the thousands to attend games, every year, and the highest paid players would not be white.
White players who did not make it and were good enough to make it would speak up as well.
In fact, your god, Trump tried to buy an NFL team once, and was rejected.
So why so many black players ? Why so relatively few whites ? Affirmative Action ? Anybody have any answers ? (with evidence)
A lot of use of the word "would" in that post. Lots of speculation. What is not speculation though, is an abundance of black players in the NFL, who keep on losing to white players (the Patriots).This is not a "lib issue" or a "racial issue". You and the idiot OP are the ones who are race baiting and repeating yourselves and sounding absurd.
If there was actually anti white discrimination in the NFL, white people would not be turning out by the thousands to attend games, every year, and the highest paid players would not be white.
White players who did not make it and were good enough to make it would speak up as well.
In fact, your god, Trump tried to buy an NFL team once, and was rejected.
So why so many black players ? Why so relatively few whites ? Affirmative Action ? Anybody have any answers ? (with evidence)
Oh so now you're gonna brag about what you could do, and try to one up me, huh ?I don't care what you don't accept. It is a fact. I am a man who played football with friends and a brother who went pro. You are a puss filled scab crying about a sport you were not good enough to play.
I doubt if you could throw a football, catch one, or even execute a block. What can you do in life, that is special ? You play any musical instruments ? How many, Brother ? Or are your hands about as capable to do that as the hoofs of a horse ?
And in baseball, I could slam your pitches out of the park, from either side of the plate. In In the Pan, I could strike you out 100 times in a row (especially if you hit right handed).![]()
It seems absurd to state that the NFL favours black players when they have punished Kapernik so much. Perhaps the OP could provide some names of players who are suffering from this supposed AA ?
That one very outspoken player got punished, does not disprove the unequal outcome.
By liberals standards, unequal outcome is proof of discrimination.
That you deny that, by lib standards, is proof you are a racist. And stupid. And evul.
This is not a "lib issue" or a "racial issue". You and the idiot OP are the ones who are race baiting and repeating yourselves and sounding absurd.
If there was actually anti white discrimination in the NFL, white people would not be turning out by the thousands to attend games, every year, and the highest paid players would not be white.
White players who did not make it and were good enough to make it would speak up as well.
In fact, your god, Trump tried to buy an NFL team once, and was rejected.
What a crock. Marciano beat the heavyweight champion of the world to get his title. he would have destroyed Clay, who only got notoriety by shooting his big mouth off, and bullshitting about being against violence, because he was a Muslim. Being a Muslim is all about being IN FAVOR OF VIOLENCE. They should have drafted his ass.If you read your own thread in a lucid moment, you will note that when I touched on boxing, I stated that in the lighter weight classes, there are and have been many good fighterrs who are not black
I have even been personal friends with a few. Alberto "Superfly" Sandoval, Bobby Chacone, Johnny Tapia, Danny 'Little Red" Lopez to name a few.
Rocky Marciano was undefeated but WAY overrated. He was very carefully managed and matched.
He never faced a big name fighter who was in his prime, and the ones that he did fight like Joe Louis, Jersey Joe Walcott, Ezzard Charles and Archie Moore were far past their peak when he fought them.
In fact, Moore and Walcott were both near 40 and knocked Marciano on his ass during their fights.
Marciano never faced any genuine up and coming black
contenders ike Sonny Liston or Eddie Machen, they both would have taken him apart, and he convienently retired without giving Floyd Patterson a shot.
There should he a footnote in his career pointing out that he was protected.
Back in the late 60's when Ali was wrongly stripped of his title there was even a computerized match that fed various stats into a program which manufactured a so called "dream match" between Ali and Marciano, which produced the ridiculous outcome of Marciano winning by a knockout with a body punch in the 13th round. Anything to keep the dream of a "Great White Hope" alive.
Boxing greats are measured by three categories. Length of career, quality of opposition and performance in championship bouts.
That being said, I've wasted more than enough time in this thread trying provide you with some common sense and some knowledge about certain sports.You don't know much at all.
As a boxer, he was good mostly . But he got beat by a 3rd rate club fighter, and lost his title to him (Leon Spinks). Marciano would have knocked Spinks out in the first round.
PS -why is there any talk of great white hope when 8 of the 13 undefeated boxers in boxing history were all white guys.
Here's how "weak" Marciano was (against the heavyweight champion of the world") >>>
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Joe Louis admitted that Rocky would have beat him even in his prime. Also at 38 yrs old he was 68-2 and was still better than 95% of fighters in history.
Jack Dempsey said Marciano was the hardest puncher in history.
That's pretty good backup from the most reliable sources around.
He also broke a GOOD pro boxer's arms with gloved fists, Roland LaStarza.
He also has the highest KO rate of any heavyweight champion in history with 89%.
While filming the fantasy fight, Rocky actually floored Ali with a body shot and Ali refused to continue until he was offered a bigger cut... he also refused an actual match that Rocky challenged him to. Rocky was in his mid-40's at the time.
When the going got tough he rose to the occasion, EVERY SINGLE TIME. If that isn't heart then I don't know what is. He's been cut, outboxed and floored... always came back with the KO when he needed it. 100% is a flawless record, that means NO ONE found out how to beat him.
He beat a man that was around 250 lbs, undefeated (something like 2-0 or 4-0 I forget) and the man retired after the Rocky fight.
Beat a title contender who was something like 26-0 in just his 4th career fight... he was essentially fed to the lions so his manager could get paid.
He did all of this with the shortest reach of any heavyweight in history.
How is it possible to "overrate" this man? To do so would be on opinion alone when all facts and stats point towards greatness... and if we're talking opinion, I'll take Jack Dempsey's and Joe Louis' over some boxing fans 75 years later.
The best heavyweight fighter of all time.
It seems absurd to state that the NFL favours black players when they have punished Kapernik so much. Perhaps the OP could provide some names of players who are suffering from this supposed AA ?
That one very outspoken player got punished, does not disprove the unequal outcome.
By liberals standards, unequal outcome is proof of discrimination.
That you deny that, by lib standards, is proof you are a racist. And stupid. And evul.
This is not a "lib issue" or a "racial issue". You and the idiot OP are the ones who are race baiting and repeating yourselves and sounding absurd.
If there was actually anti white discrimination in the NFL, white people would not be turning out by the thousands to attend games, every year, and the highest paid players would not be white.
White players who did not make it and were good enough to make it would speak up as well.
In fact, your god, Trump tried to buy an NFL team once, and was rejected.
We are just holding you libs to your own standards.
There is unequal outcome. That means there had to be discrimination.
You aren't arguing that whites are racially inferior are you?
You're not an Aryan then.1. I'm a white-Hispanic man
OK. So what you're saying is that the white owners and coaches of the NFL are saying "Hey. We have better white players than black players. But we are gong to play the black players and lose more games and have let's chance of winning the super bowl"I'm pointing out that there are enough white players of top caliber to discount any notion that the heavy black representation is from superior ability.
OK. So what you're saying is that the white owners and coaches of the NFL are saying "Hey. We have better white players than black players. But we are gong to play the black players and lose more games and have let's chance of winning the super bowl"I'm pointing out that there are enough white players of top caliber to discount any notion that the heavy black representation is from superior ability.
Ali was too fast and mobile to get caught often enough by Rocky and if he did catch him, it's probably the solidest chin of all time Rocky would be hitting. I don’t totally dismiss a Marciano win because the hardest Ali was dropped was by Henry Cooper’s left hook. So Rocky could for sure have hurt Ali and if Frazier could get to Ali there’s no reason Marciano couldn’tDumbass. He knocked out the heavyweight CHAMPION of the world ( and damn near killed him with one punch) And Clay lost to guys (ex, Leon Spinks) who would have lasted one minute with Marciano. Back to the drawing board for you.Marciano....protected by ducking the best competition
Ali.......fought all comers and ducked no one. He defeated opposition that would have murdered short, slow Marciano.
You don't know shit about boxing or fighters or football.
and get back on topic.
Rocky Marciano The Punch - Bing video
Oh so now you're gonna brag about what you could do, and try to one up me, huh ?I don't care what you don't accept. It is a fact. I am a man who played football with friends and a brother who went pro. You are a puss filled scab crying about a sport you were not good enough to play.
I doubt if you could throw a football, catch one, or even execute a block. What can you do in life, that is special ? You play any musical instruments ? How many, Brother ? Or are your hands about as capable to do that as the hoofs of a horse ?
And in baseball, I could slam your pitches out of the park, from either side of the plate. In In the Pan, I could strike you out 100 times in a row (especially if you hit right handed).![]()