BREAKING: Mass school shooting multiple victims

[Vandalshandle]

I don't know what the fuss is about. The shooter was a well regulated militia.

 

[francoHFW]

Your NRA/GOP perfect world.

When will Oregon outlaw murder?

A dozen or so people die in a shooting and they lose their collective minds....meanwhile over 3,000 innocents murdered by abortion today and they don't bat an eye.

99% less than 3 months along, NOT murder according to the SC. Take a break, chump of the greedy idiot megarich GOP.

 

[2aguy]

Holy crap Obama is pissed off...

You guys watch this stuff?

will he be as mad if it turns out the shooter was a muslim? or will he get quiet real quick......and then they will say it was simply workplace violence.....

 

[Wry Catcher]

most mass shootings are done with legal guns.

Yes and thus why MORE laws will not stop them.

actually, greater difficulty obtaining guns WOULD keep them from having weapons. so i'm not quite sure how you figure that.

It is not difficult for criminals to get firearms but you would make it hard for the law abiding to do the same? When it is proven over and over it does not stop crime or murder? Talk about STUPID.

it's also not difficult to violate laws against murder.

it's also not difficult to violate laws against burglary and theft.

it's also not difficult to violate laws against drugs.

does that mean we should throw up our hands and say "well, they're going to be violated anyway, so screw it".?

Look you loon we have a PROTECTED Constitutional RIGHT to firearms. You don't like that? Change the Constitution.

But the Second is NOT sacrosanct, nor should it be.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

Obamas gonna stop da criminalz !!!

Hes serious this time !

 

[TemplarKormac]

That's an asinine argument.

Why? What good are gun free zones and gun control laws like background checks if they don't stop tragedies like this one? Even with those things in place, 13 people still died.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Your NRA/GOP perfect world.

When will Oregon outlaw murder?

A dozen or so people die in a shooting and they lose their collective minds....meanwhile over 3,000 innocents murdered by abortion today and they don't bat an eye.

99% less than 3 months along, NOT murder according to the SC. Take a break, chump of the greedy idiot megarich GOP.

Meh...go to hell, moon bat

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Laws do not prevent crime, crimes are punished and that is what keeps society relatively safe.

Okay. Laws do not prevent crime, ergo gun control laws do not stop gun violence from happening. Therefore gun control laws, and gun free zones are pointless. If laws are pointless, it doesn't matter how many times someone is punished.

Thanks for making my case.

By that logic, laws against murder are pointless too. After all, people still commit murder, even though it's illegal.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

That's an asinine argument.

Why? What good are gun free zones and gun control laws like background checks if they don't stop tragedies like this one? Even with those things in place, 13 people still died.

What good are laws against murder, if people still murder?
What good are laws against rape, if people still rape?
What good are laws against jaywalking, if people still jaywalk?

...and so on, for every single law that has ever existed.

 

[TemplarKormac]

By that logic, laws against murder are pointless too. After all, people still commit murder, even though it's illegal.

Then, I suggest you point that remark in Wry's direction. He was the one who said "Laws do not prevent crime." Yet here he is trying to push for gun control legislation, ergo, more laws that "do not prevent crime."

 

[thereisnospoon]

The guyn grabbers are frothing at the mouth.
These shameless libs never hesitate to politicize a tragic event.
Libs suck. Everything they say and do is for political gain.....

 

[EverCurious]

What did I suggest outlawing?

Again, any person can print a fully automatic rifle on a 3D printer, so the ONLY thing you can to is to infringe the rights of the law abiding.

Youre a dumbass. Not many people can afford a 500k printer.

Walmart's selling them for $400.00 right now, JS

TwoUp 3D Printer Kit - Walmart.com

 

[TemplarKormac]

That's an asinine argument.

Why? What good are gun free zones and gun control laws like background checks if they don't stop tragedies like this one? Even with those things in place, 13 people still died.

What good are laws against murder, if people still murder?
What good are laws against rape, if people still rape?
What good are laws against jaywalking, if people still jaywalk?

...and so on, for every single law that has ever existed.

What are you getting at?

 

[theDoctorisIn]

By that logic, laws against murder are pointless too. After all, people still commit murder, even though it's illegal.

Then, I suggest you point that remark in Wry's direction. He was the one who said "Laws do not prevent crime." Yet here he is trying to push for gun control legislation, ergo, more laws that "do not prevent crime."

You're missing my point. I'm agreeing with Wry - laws don't exist to prevent crime, they exist to punish crime.

 

[francoHFW]

Your NRA/GOP perfect world.

And there we go. 2nd post. Liberals have no shame, no integrity, no honesty, no maturity, and no common sense.

You vote for them. 88% want backgound checks without loopholes. And your heroes block it. Along with all other solutions.

 

[2aguy]

Laws do not prevent crime, crimes are punished and that is what keeps society relatively safe.

Okay. Laws do not prevent crime, ergo gun control laws do not stop gun violence from happening. Therefore gun control laws, and gun free zones are pointless. If laws are pointless, it doesn't matter how many times someone is punished.

Thanks for making my case.

By that logic, laws against murder are pointless too. After all, people still commit murder, even though it's illegal.

What the anti gunners say is that we need gun laws to "prevent" gun crimes.......they want the Tom Cruise movie "Minority Report," where gun crimes are prevented before they occur....that is why they think licensing gun owners, registering guns and universal background checks will "prevent" gun crime....

But none of those things does anything to prevent gun crime...they don't even help solve gun crime...

We can already arrest people if they use a gun to commit a crime and we can already arrest felons if they are simply caught in possession of a gun....we can do those things without licensing any gun owner, registering any gun and Universal background checks will be gotten around by criminals the same way criminals get around current mandatory background checks...

 

[Mac1958]

 

[theDoctorisIn]

That's an asinine argument.

Why? What good are gun free zones and gun control laws like background checks if they don't stop tragedies like this one? Even with those things in place, 13 people still died.

What good are laws against murder, if people still murder?
What good are laws against rape, if people still rape?
What good are laws against jaywalking, if people still jaywalk?

...and so on, for every single law that has ever existed.

What are you getting at?

Laws don't exist to prevent crime, they exist to punish it.

 

[2aguy]

By that logic, laws against murder are pointless too. After all, people still commit murder, even though it's illegal.

Then, I suggest you point that remark in Wry's direction. He was the one who said "Laws do not prevent crime." Yet here he is trying to push for gun control legislation, ergo, more laws that "do not prevent crime."

You're missing my point. I'm agreeing with Wry - laws don't exist to prevent crime, they exist to punish crime.

No...you are missing the point...Wry want gun laws that "prevent" gun crime.....and the only people he is concerned with punishing is normal people who want to own and carry a gun for self defense.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Laws do not prevent crime, crimes are punished and that is what keeps society relatively safe.

Okay. Laws do not prevent crime, ergo gun control laws do not stop gun violence from happening. Therefore gun control laws, and gun free zones are pointless. If laws are pointless, it doesn't matter how many times someone is punished.

Thanks for making my case.

By that logic, laws against murder are pointless too. After all, people still commit murder, even though it's illegal.

What the anti gunners say is that we need gun laws to "prevent" gun crimes.......they want the Tom Cruise movie "Minority Report," where gun crimes are prevented before they occur....that is why they think licensing gun owners, registering guns and universal background checks will "prevent" gun crime....

But none of those things does anything to prevent gun crime...they don't even help solve gun crime...

We can already arrest people if they use a gun to commit a crime and we can already arrest felons if they are simply caught in possession of a gun....we can do those things without licensing any gun owner, registering any gun and Universal background checks will be gotten around by criminals the same way criminals get around current mandatory background checks...

Nice strawman.