Breaking News! Andrew McCabe Fired Without Pension

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Trump explodes at Mueller probe! Go Comey! Go McCabe!

 

[Billy_Bob]

Flynn is an adjudicated convicted felon. That cannot be undone. The plea was entered. The mea cupla was made. For those that do not know what that means, in a federal court, unlike a state court, if you enter a guilty plea, you have to profess with your mouth, in front of the court exactly what your crime was, and how you willingly and knowingly committed it.

There is no wiggle room to get out of it later.

Flynn is a convicted felon with a recorded confession to that crime, and it cannot be undone ever. Unless he receives a pardon by the President of the United States, he cannot vote, hold public office or any office of public trust, and cannot be in possession of a firearm, or be in association with known felons.

Wrong again... Quashing the "conviction" makes it disappear as if it never happened...

Thats what happens when prosecutors circumvent the law and do not do their jobs correctly or do it with criminal intent as it was done here. Even the damn judge was involved in the hiding of exculpatory evidence and was forcibly recused..

You can't quash a conviction. What fantasy world is it you live in?

The only thing he knows is what his secret inside information man in the Charlottesville Police Department tells him.

It is surprising how many people don't understand that plea bargaining to a guilty plea deal is voluntary.

Doesn't matter... When the prosecutor and the judge collude to get a false conviction by plea there is hell to pay and its coming fast now that it has been exposed..

exactly how, would any judge, collude with a prosecutor on this plea agreement?

the agreement is made between the Prosecutor and the client's lawyer on behalf of the client..the Judge is not even involved in any of that??

The judge in this case knew the prosecutor was withholding exculpatory evidence that exonerates the defendant. He gives an order that all evidence is to be given yet doesn't call them out on it and accepts the plea.

Then we find out that the judge and prosecutor went to dinner and discussed the case prior to the plea deal and the judge did not force the prosecutor to give up the evidence... The JUDGE KNEW IT EXONERATED FLYNN and yet he accepted a plea? WHY?

 

[Lewdog]

Wrong again... Quashing the "conviction" makes it disappear as if it never happened...

Thats what happens when prosecutors circumvent the law and do not do their jobs correctly or do it with criminal intent as it was done here. Even the damn judge was involved in the hiding of exculpatory evidence and was forcibly recused..

You can't quash a conviction. What fantasy world is it you live in?

The only thing he knows is what his secret inside information man in the Charlottesville Police Department tells him.

It is surprising how many people don't understand that plea bargaining to a guilty plea deal is voluntary.

Doesn't matter... When the prosecutor and the judge collude to get a false conviction by plea there is hell to pay and its coming fast now that it has been exposed..

exactly how, would any judge, collude with a prosecutor on this plea agreement?

the agreement is made between the Prosecutor and the client's lawyer on behalf of the client..the Judge is not even involved in any of that??

The judge in this case knew the prosecutor was withholding exculpatory evidence that exonerates the defendant. He gives an order that all evidence is to be given yet doesn't call them out on it and accepts the plea.

Then we find out that the judge and prosecutor went to dinner and discussed the case prior to the plea deal and the judge did not force the prosecutor to give up the evidence... The JUDGE KNEW IT EXONERATED FLYNN and yet he accepted a plea? WHY?

IT NEVER WENT TO COURT!

He plea bargained out. Do you know wtf a plea bargain is?

 

[Billy_Bob]

Flynn is an adjudicated convicted felon. That cannot be undone. The plea was entered. The mea cupla was made. For those that do not know what that means, in a federal court, unlike a state court, if you enter a guilty plea, you have to profess with your mouth, in front of the court exactly what your crime was, and how you willingly and knowingly committed it.

There is no wiggle room to get out of it later.

Flynn is a convicted felon with a recorded confession to that crime, and it cannot be undone ever. Unless he receives a pardon by the President of the United States, he cannot vote, hold public office or any office of public trust, and cannot be in possession of a firearm, or be in association with known felons.

Wrong again... Quashing the "conviction" makes it disappear as if it never happened...

Thats what happens when prosecutors circumvent the law and do not do their jobs correctly or do it with criminal intent as it was done here. Even the damn judge was involved in the hiding of exculpatory evidence and was forcibly recused..

You can't quash a conviction. What fantasy world is it you live in?

The only thing he knows is what his secret inside information man in the Charlottesville Police Department tells him.

It is surprising how many people don't understand that plea bargaining to a guilty plea deal is voluntary.

Doesn't matter... When the prosecutor and the judge collude to get a false conviction by plea there is hell to pay and its coming fast now that it has been exposed..

Do you understand a plea deal isn't worked out in open court? A plea bargain is VOLUNTARY.

So what....

The prosecutor discussed it with the judge over dinner and the judge knew they did not possess the evidence to convict. yet he accepted the plea..

I've been in on many plea deals and this one is going to fall flat... I see criminal charges coming for the judge and the prosecutors.

 

[Billy_Bob]

You can't quash a conviction. What fantasy world is it you live in?

The only thing he knows is what his secret inside information man in the Charlottesville Police Department tells him.

It is surprising how many people don't understand that plea bargaining to a guilty plea deal is voluntary.

Doesn't matter... When the prosecutor and the judge collude to get a false conviction by plea there is hell to pay and its coming fast now that it has been exposed..

exactly how, would any judge, collude with a prosecutor on this plea agreement?

the agreement is made between the Prosecutor and the client's lawyer on behalf of the client..the Judge is not even involved in any of that??

The judge in this case knew the prosecutor was withholding exculpatory evidence that exonerates the defendant. He gives an order that all evidence is to be given yet doesn't call them out on it and accepts the plea.

Then we find out that the judge and prosecutor went to dinner and discussed the case prior to the plea deal and the judge did not force the prosecutor to give up the evidence... The JUDGE KNEW IT EXONERATED FLYNN and yet he accepted a plea? WHY?

IT NEVER WENT TO COURT!

He plea bargained out. Do you know wtf a plea bargain is?

aaaaaaaaaaa. Yes it did... it has to be read and acknowledged in open court or it didn't happen. IT must be read into the court record and the judge must ask the defendant if he understands the loss of his rights in doing so.. Without this DUE PROCESS it never happened.

 

[Lewdog]

Wrong again... Quashing the "conviction" makes it disappear as if it never happened...

Thats what happens when prosecutors circumvent the law and do not do their jobs correctly or do it with criminal intent as it was done here. Even the damn judge was involved in the hiding of exculpatory evidence and was forcibly recused..

You can't quash a conviction. What fantasy world is it you live in?

The only thing he knows is what his secret inside information man in the Charlottesville Police Department tells him.

It is surprising how many people don't understand that plea bargaining to a guilty plea deal is voluntary.

Doesn't matter... When the prosecutor and the judge collude to get a false conviction by plea there is hell to pay and its coming fast now that it has been exposed..

Do you understand a plea deal isn't worked out in open court? A plea bargain is VOLUNTARY.

So what....

The prosecutor discussed it with the judge over dinner and the judge knew they did not possess the evidence to convict. yet he accepted the plea..

I've been in on many plea deals and this one is going to fall flat... I see criminal charges coming for the judge and the prosecutors.

Sure you have. Was it with your inside man in the Charlottesville Police department?

Plea bargains are VOLUNTARY. Do you understand what that word means?

If Flynn wasn't guilty then why didn't he take it to court instead of doing a plea bargain? He certainly could afford a lawyer, I mean look at the money he got from Russia.

 

[Lewdog]

The only thing he knows is what his secret inside information man in the Charlottesville Police Department tells him.

It is surprising how many people don't understand that plea bargaining to a guilty plea deal is voluntary.

Doesn't matter... When the prosecutor and the judge collude to get a false conviction by plea there is hell to pay and its coming fast now that it has been exposed..

exactly how, would any judge, collude with a prosecutor on this plea agreement?

the agreement is made between the Prosecutor and the client's lawyer on behalf of the client..the Judge is not even involved in any of that??

The judge in this case knew the prosecutor was withholding exculpatory evidence that exonerates the defendant. He gives an order that all evidence is to be given yet doesn't call them out on it and accepts the plea.

Then we find out that the judge and prosecutor went to dinner and discussed the case prior to the plea deal and the judge did not force the prosecutor to give up the evidence... The JUDGE KNEW IT EXONERATED FLYNN and yet he accepted a plea? WHY?

IT NEVER WENT TO COURT!

He plea bargained out. Do you know wtf a plea bargain is?

aaaaaaaaaaa. Yes it did... it has to be read and acknowledged in open court or it didn't happen.

The details of a plea bargain isn't DONE in open court. It gets READ in open court in order for the judge to accept it, but that isn't where it is worked out.

And you just said you have been in on many plea bargains? You don't seem to know shit about them for that to be true.

 

[Care4all]

Wrong again... Quashing the "conviction" makes it disappear as if it never happened...

Thats what happens when prosecutors circumvent the law and do not do their jobs correctly or do it with criminal intent as it was done here. Even the damn judge was involved in the hiding of exculpatory evidence and was forcibly recused..

You can't quash a conviction. What fantasy world is it you live in?

The only thing he knows is what his secret inside information man in the Charlottesville Police Department tells him.

It is surprising how many people don't understand that plea bargaining to a guilty plea deal is voluntary.

Doesn't matter... When the prosecutor and the judge collude to get a false conviction by plea there is hell to pay and its coming fast now that it has been exposed..

exactly how, would any judge, collude with a prosecutor on this plea agreement?

the agreement is made between the Prosecutor and the client's lawyer on behalf of the client..the Judge is not even involved in any of that??

The judge in this case knew the prosecutor was withholding exculpatory evidence that exonerates the defendant. He gives an order that all evidence is to be given yet doesn't call them out on it and accepts the plea.

Then we find out that the judge and prosecutor went to dinner and discussed the case prior to the plea deal and the judge did not force the prosecutor to give up the evidence... The JUDGE KNEW IT EXONERATED FLYNN and yet he accepted a plea? WHY?

What was the exculpatory evidence that was not shown?

You keep saying that there was additional evidence in favor of the defendant but you NEVER SAY what it is?

So what is this evidence that you CLAIM, was withheld?

 

[Crixus]

In the end, a political elite sits at home not happy and unsure about his future with very few options. For now, he has no pension so the shit has to worry how he will fund his challange to get it back. He has to worry about criminal charges, he will have to sell his porche and dip into the kids collage funds. He will not sleep while he lays in bed, add to all that his character has been assassinated. We know he is a slimy fuck so he has to think about who he will roll on to stay out of prision. Basically his life sucks. I am filled with glee that a political hack has to worry about shit just like normal folks. Argue all you want, fact is he broke the law, and he broke the rules of the agency he destroyed the reputation of. It was just, and it’s funny as hell.

 

[westwall]

Do any posters on this thread have any sympathy for the McCabe family? We all know Trump doesn't. Just curious...

For his kids? Absolutely. For his wife and mccabe? Not one bit. Sadly kids can't choose their parents.

Why not the wife? What did she do? Dr. Jill McCabe sounds like an awesome lady.

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She accepted money for her campaign from the clintons while her husband was supposed to be investigating hilary for yet another one of her innumerable crimes. That's just stupid. Stupidity used to be a Capitol Offense. Now, with modern technology it rarely is, but in her case she's going to get burned.

 

[westwall]

You can't quash a conviction. What fantasy world is it you live in?

The only thing he knows is what his secret inside information man in the Charlottesville Police Department tells him.

It is surprising how many people don't understand that plea bargaining to a guilty plea deal is voluntary.

Doesn't matter... When the prosecutor and the judge collude to get a false conviction by plea there is hell to pay and its coming fast now that it has been exposed..

exactly how, would any judge, collude with a prosecutor on this plea agreement?

the agreement is made between the Prosecutor and the client's lawyer on behalf of the client..the Judge is not even involved in any of that??

The judge in this case knew the prosecutor was withholding exculpatory evidence that exonerates the defendant. He gives an order that all evidence is to be given yet doesn't call them out on it and accepts the plea.

Then we find out that the judge and prosecutor went to dinner and discussed the case prior to the plea deal and the judge did not force the prosecutor to give up the evidence... The JUDGE KNEW IT EXONERATED FLYNN and yet he accepted a plea? WHY?

What was the exculpatory evidence that was not shown?

You keep saying that there was additional evidence in favor of the defendant but you NEVER SAY what it is?

So what is this evidence that you CLAIM, was withheld?

comey testified that the agents who interrogated flynn stipulated (that is a very important legal term) that flynn didn't lie to them. Thus the very "crime" that he plead guilty to under duress, it appears he actually didn't do. Thus mueller broke a shitload of laws by extorting the plea from him. At the very least mueller is looking at disbarment.

 

[westwall]

It was postponed for ninety days because he had not met his obligations under his plea arrangement. IOW, he still has work to do for Mueller. He won't be sentenced until he has provided testimony in any cases made during the investigation where his testimony is required. He's a witness now.

You're making shit up now, douchebag.

Who do you think you're fooling?

FYI-that's part of the plea agreement....just google FLYNN CHARGES and read his indictment, it is in there....

How is the coerced confession going these days, Comrade?

Indefinite postponement, isn't it Comrade? What was it, Mewler-Torquemada was going to keep breaking his wife's fingers until Flynn confessed, right?

It's not indefinite, it is for 90 days...and agreed upon by Flynn.

If Flynn was going to do something and renege from his plea agreement, he would have done so, long long long ago....instead of continuing to cooperate with the FBI.....

Flynn is an adjudicated convicted felon. That cannot be undone. The plea was entered. The mea cupla was made. For those that do not know what that means, in a federal court, unlike a state court, if you enter a guilty plea, you have to profess with your mouth, in front of the court exactly what your crime was, and how you willingly and knowingly committed it.

There is no wiggle room to get out of it later.

Flynn is a convicted felon with a recorded confession to that crime, and it cannot be undone ever. Unless he receives a pardon by the President of the United States, he cannot vote, hold public office or any office of public trust, and cannot be in possession of a firearm, or be in association with known felons.

uhhhhh, yeah it can. And it will. You really need to stop thinking that TV shows are representative of the real world. flynns plea was extorted from him. That is a crime. mueller is the one looking to be in trouble in that particular case. As they say in the movies..."you ain't seen nothin' yet"

 

[Uncensored2008]

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I don't know what a left tard is, only that it is a pejorative used by the poorly educated who echo others who lack a good education.

Perhaps I can help Comrade, I have a Ph.D.

A "lefttard" is a retarded leftist, which is to say any and every leftist.

I can say that on its face, the firing of McCabe is one more attack on Federal Law Enforcement, and a pleasure Putin will enjoy.

McCabe colluded with the Kremlin to tamper with the American election. While treason is a big part of what you Stalinists are about, we normals find it somewhat of a problem, Comrade.

It also seem to be one more data point on Mueller's crime board, keeping track of the Republican Parties efforts to obstruct justice, and may - and I hope it does - bring Jeff "I don't recall" Sessions, Rep. Devin Nunes and Donald Trump before a Grand Jury and to testify under oath and answer the questions.

Grand Inquisitor Mewler-Torquemada will be lucky not to be standing before a firing squad, Commie boi,

After the Nunes memo, you Stalinists are fucked. Look, you engaged in treason. You attempted a coup and failed.

 

[westwall]

Do any Trump supporters on this thread have any sympathy for the McCabe family? We all know Trump doesn't. Just curious...

I feel sorry for them....

And I HATE the way this was handled, which was out of the norm, people like McCabe usually get on average 6 months to present their case and side, and McCabe said he was given 1 day, or something like that.....

I also HATE that this was done for political purposes...noted by Trump's tweets, and the way they rushed this....

Justice is suppose to be blind, and the President should NOT EVER butt in the way he has done..... so I see a law suit coming....even if McCabe has done something so egregious that he had to be fired, which none of us really know this until we see the Inspector General's report, he didn't have to be fired before he retired and before he had a chance to adequately defend his actions....

This was ALL outside of protocol, and it was done for political purpose, for President Trump, is how it looks to me....

And never in a million years, should something like that, ever ever ever happen in this nation!

There is nothing about his firing that is political. That is progressive propaganda that you are listening to. The OPR demanded he be fired because he has damaged the credibility of the FBI. Think thousands of criminal cases going poof because he has now been shown to have perjured himself. Anyone who had a case that mccabe was involved in now gets to go to a judge and say "he lied about my case too judge!" Millions of dollars are going to be wasted thanks to his lies.

THAT is why OPR demanded he be fired.

 

[Lewdog]

The only thing he knows is what his secret inside information man in the Charlottesville Police Department tells him.

It is surprising how many people don't understand that plea bargaining to a guilty plea deal is voluntary.

Doesn't matter... When the prosecutor and the judge collude to get a false conviction by plea there is hell to pay and its coming fast now that it has been exposed..

exactly how, would any judge, collude with a prosecutor on this plea agreement?

the agreement is made between the Prosecutor and the client's lawyer on behalf of the client..the Judge is not even involved in any of that??

The judge in this case knew the prosecutor was withholding exculpatory evidence that exonerates the defendant. He gives an order that all evidence is to be given yet doesn't call them out on it and accepts the plea.

Then we find out that the judge and prosecutor went to dinner and discussed the case prior to the plea deal and the judge did not force the prosecutor to give up the evidence... The JUDGE KNEW IT EXONERATED FLYNN and yet he accepted a plea? WHY?

What was the exculpatory evidence that was not shown?

You keep saying that there was additional evidence in favor of the defendant but you NEVER SAY what it is?

So what is this evidence that you CLAIM, was withheld?

comey testified that the agents who interrogated flynn stipulated (that is a very important legal term) that flynn didn't lie to them. Thus the very "crime" that he plead guilty to under duress, it appears he actually didn't do. Thus mueller broke a shitload of laws by extorting the plea from him. At the very least mueller is looking at disbarment.

Proof?

How was Flynn under duress? You going to tell me an Army Lt. General plead guilty when he was innocent because he was under duress from Mueller?

Do you understand how silly that sounds?

Did you also know that in the U.S. law enforcement can legally LIE to someone in order to get them to give information or admit guilt?

Also, Trump and his team admitted Flynn lied to the FBI, Pence, and others when they fired him for it.

 

[westwall]

Flynn is an adjudicated convicted felon. That cannot be undone. The plea was entered. The mea cupla was made. For those that do not know what that means, in a federal court, unlike a state court, if you enter a guilty plea, you have to profess with your mouth, in front of the court exactly what your crime was, and how you willingly and knowingly committed it.

There is no wiggle room to get out of it later.

Flynn is a convicted felon with a recorded confession to that crime, and it cannot be undone ever. Unless he receives a pardon by the President of the United States, he cannot vote, hold public office or any office of public trust, and cannot be in possession of a firearm, or be in association with known felons.

Wrong again... Quashing the "conviction" makes it disappear as if it never happened...

Thats what happens when prosecutors circumvent the law and do not do their jobs correctly or do it with criminal intent as it was done here. Even the damn judge was involved in the hiding of exculpatory evidence and was forcibly recused..

You can't quash a conviction. What fantasy world is it you live in?

The only thing he knows is what his secret inside information man in the Charlottesville Police Department tells him.

It is surprising how many people don't understand that plea bargaining to a guilty plea deal is voluntary.

Doesn't matter... When the prosecutor and the judge collude to get a false conviction by plea there is hell to pay and its coming fast now that it has been exposed..

Do you understand a plea deal isn't worked out in open court? A plea bargain is VOLUNTARY.

So what. They get quashed all the same. Take a look at Oliver North if you don't want to believe me.

 

[Lewdog]

You're making shit up now, douchebag.

Who do you think you're fooling?

FYI-that's part of the plea agreement....just google FLYNN CHARGES and read his indictment, it is in there....

How is the coerced confession going these days, Comrade?

Indefinite postponement, isn't it Comrade? What was it, Mewler-Torquemada was going to keep breaking his wife's fingers until Flynn confessed, right?

It's not indefinite, it is for 90 days...and agreed upon by Flynn.

If Flynn was going to do something and renege from his plea agreement, he would have done so, long long long ago....instead of continuing to cooperate with the FBI.....

Flynn is an adjudicated convicted felon. That cannot be undone. The plea was entered. The mea cupla was made. For those that do not know what that means, in a federal court, unlike a state court, if you enter a guilty plea, you have to profess with your mouth, in front of the court exactly what your crime was, and how you willingly and knowingly committed it.

There is no wiggle room to get out of it later.

Flynn is a convicted felon with a recorded confession to that crime, and it cannot be undone ever. Unless he receives a pardon by the President of the United States, he cannot vote, hold public office or any office of public trust, and cannot be in possession of a firearm, or be in association with known felons.

uhhhhh, yeah it can. And it will. You really need to stop thinking that TV shows are representative of the real world. flynns plea was extorted from him. That is a crime. mueller is the one looking to be in trouble in that particular case. As they say in the movies..."you ain't seen nothin' yet"

Plea bargains are part of the legal system in the U.S., you are just going to have to deal with it. If Flynn was innocent he could have gone to trial. You are making him sound like a complete pussy.

 

[westwall]

Doesn't matter... When the prosecutor and the judge collude to get a false conviction by plea there is hell to pay and its coming fast now that it has been exposed..

exactly how, would any judge, collude with a prosecutor on this plea agreement?

the agreement is made between the Prosecutor and the client's lawyer on behalf of the client..the Judge is not even involved in any of that??

The judge in this case knew the prosecutor was withholding exculpatory evidence that exonerates the defendant. He gives an order that all evidence is to be given yet doesn't call them out on it and accepts the plea.

Then we find out that the judge and prosecutor went to dinner and discussed the case prior to the plea deal and the judge did not force the prosecutor to give up the evidence... The JUDGE KNEW IT EXONERATED FLYNN and yet he accepted a plea? WHY?

What was the exculpatory evidence that was not shown?

You keep saying that there was additional evidence in favor of the defendant but you NEVER SAY what it is?

So what is this evidence that you CLAIM, was withheld?

comey testified that the agents who interrogated flynn stipulated (that is a very important legal term) that flynn didn't lie to them. Thus the very "crime" that he plead guilty to under duress, it appears he actually didn't do. Thus mueller broke a shitload of laws by extorting the plea from him. At the very least mueller is looking at disbarment.

Proof?

How was Flynn under duress? You going to tell me an Army Lt. General plead guilty when he was innocent because he was under duress from Mueller?

Do you understand how silly that sounds?

Did you also know that in the U.S. law enforcement can legally LIE to someone in order to get them to give information or admit guilt?

Also, Trump and his team admitted Flynn lied to the FBI, Pence, and others when they fired him for it.

"I am going to keep delaying this case till you run out of money, I will also file criminal charges against your son that although i know I can't prove anything will destroy his credibility and drive your entire family into bankruptcy".

It's a very old prosecutorial trick, try looking up some real cases.

 

[westwall]

FYI-that's part of the plea agreement....just google FLYNN CHARGES and read his indictment, it is in there....

How is the coerced confession going these days, Comrade?

Indefinite postponement, isn't it Comrade? What was it, Mewler-Torquemada was going to keep breaking his wife's fingers until Flynn confessed, right?

It's not indefinite, it is for 90 days...and agreed upon by Flynn.

If Flynn was going to do something and renege from his plea agreement, he would have done so, long long long ago....instead of continuing to cooperate with the FBI.....

Flynn is an adjudicated convicted felon. That cannot be undone. The plea was entered. The mea cupla was made. For those that do not know what that means, in a federal court, unlike a state court, if you enter a guilty plea, you have to profess with your mouth, in front of the court exactly what your crime was, and how you willingly and knowingly committed it.

There is no wiggle room to get out of it later.

Flynn is a convicted felon with a recorded confession to that crime, and it cannot be undone ever. Unless he receives a pardon by the President of the United States, he cannot vote, hold public office or any office of public trust, and cannot be in possession of a firearm, or be in association with known felons.

uhhhhh, yeah it can. And it will. You really need to stop thinking that TV shows are representative of the real world. flynns plea was extorted from him. That is a crime. mueller is the one looking to be in trouble in that particular case. As they say in the movies..."you ain't seen nothin' yet"

Plea bargains are part of the legal system in the U.S., you are just going to have to deal with it. If Flynn was innocent he could have gone to trial. You are making him sound like a complete pussy.

No, I'm giving him credit for having some brains. Innocent people are convicted, or accept plea bargains, all of the time. Sometimes accepting the plea is the lessor of two evils.

 

[Lewdog]

Wrong again... Quashing the "conviction" makes it disappear as if it never happened...

Thats what happens when prosecutors circumvent the law and do not do their jobs correctly or do it with criminal intent as it was done here. Even the damn judge was involved in the hiding of exculpatory evidence and was forcibly recused..

You can't quash a conviction. What fantasy world is it you live in?

The only thing he knows is what his secret inside information man in the Charlottesville Police Department tells him.

It is surprising how many people don't understand that plea bargaining to a guilty plea deal is voluntary.

Doesn't matter... When the prosecutor and the judge collude to get a false conviction by plea there is hell to pay and its coming fast now that it has been exposed..

Do you understand a plea deal isn't worked out in open court? A plea bargain is VOLUNTARY.

So what. They get quashed all the same. Take a look at Oliver North if you don't want to believe me.

All the time?

No, they are not. Flynn needs to count his blessings that he was allowed to plea to what he did, and be able to avoid significant jail time. Do you know how much trouble he could have gotten for his conspiracy to set up a kidnapping in exchange for money? Or for taking money from a foreign government without filing as a foreign agent... and much much much more. Not to mention what his son could have been charged with.