Bribery is a loser

[Uncensored2008]

If Trump wants Biden investigated ,why not just do it without asking foreign nations for help that he would personally benefit from? And that's illegal

You're such a fucking liar, eddie.

Nothing illegal about asking Ukraine to meet their treaty obligations to work with out AG to investigate the Kickback scheme Quid Pro Joe Biden used to embezzle millions of tax payer dollars.

See, you Communists think embezzlement is legal, but investigating it is a crime.

It's because you're a bunch of filthy, corrupt fucks.

Someone claimed you're rich (never encountered an internet troll leftist who wasn't a gazillionaire)

If you really are ( ) you most certainly stole or swindled it. So corruption seems right to you....

I have more than my share and I EARNED IT ,,,And I'm smart enough to know shit when I see it and you and trump are dripping in it ,,,,Fn russian garbage

Sure, an honest guy like you wouldn't be a thief and a swindler.

 

[Uncensored2008]

If Biden is HALF as guilty as Hillary was then Trump has just saved the country from tragedy!

Even if the last 4 years worth of investigations into Hunter + Burisma were faulty, it doesnt justify the president using bribery to get an announcement of another investigation.

Why doesn't it? Why do you on the left think Joe Biden is somehow "protected" from investigation for corruption because he's running for President? This isn't some smear job like Hillary Clinton paid for...it's a request to investigate something that has every appearance of being inappropriate! Trump is totally justified in asking the Ukrainian President to look into possible influence peddling by the former Vice President just as he's totally justified in looking into the Clinton campaign's possible collusion with foreign nationals.

Biden isnt protected.
Biden was investigated. Burisma was investigated.
Because this occurred 4 years ago, the result is here.

Trump bribed to get an announcement of another investigation to hurt his political opponent.

Say Comrade, what happened to the prosecutor in that case?

That video is from 2016.
The prosecutor Biden helped get removed was Shokin.
Shokin was removed because he didnt investigate corruption.

The Hunter-Burisma investigation was done earlier this year by the current prosecutor general, Lutsenko.
Apparently Trump/Giuliani werent satisfied with reality, so they tried to create their own.

The video is the end of the "investigation" you pretend to. The investigation stopped because Quid Pro blackmailed the Ukraine to stop the investigation. Pure and simple,

 

[dudmuck]

Even if the last 4 years worth of investigations into Hunter + Burisma were faulty, it doesnt justify the president using bribery to get an announcement of another investigation.

Why doesn't it? Why do you on the left think Joe Biden is somehow "protected" from investigation for corruption because he's running for President? This isn't some smear job like Hillary Clinton paid for...it's a request to investigate something that has every appearance of being inappropriate! Trump is totally justified in asking the Ukrainian President to look into possible influence peddling by the former Vice President just as he's totally justified in looking into the Clinton campaign's possible collusion with foreign nationals.

Biden isnt protected.
Biden was investigated. Burisma was investigated.
Because this occurred 4 years ago, the result is here.

Trump bribed to get an announcement of another investigation to hurt his political opponent.

Say Comrade, what happened to the prosecutor in that case?

That video is from 2016.
The prosecutor Biden helped get removed was Shokin.
Shokin was removed because he didnt investigate corruption.

The Hunter-Burisma investigation was done earlier this year by the current prosecutor general, Lutsenko.
Apparently Trump/Giuliani werent satisfied with reality, so they tried to create their own.

The video is the end of the "investigation" you pretend to. The investigation stopped because Quid Pro blackmailed the Ukraine to stop the investigation. Pure and simple,

Its actually Janurary 2018, not 2016.
It was Shokin who was ousted by Biden.

As described here, Lutsenko investigated this issue this year.
Lutsenkeo held the prosecutor general position which Shokin had before.
Shokin had never investigated Biden.

 

[Lesh]

What law prohibits Trump from asking the Ukraine to investigate the Bidens?

Doing so for personal gain is extortion by using 400 million in military aid as hostage in order to coerce that action

Using a foreign government to aid in an election is a breach of campaign finance laws.

But you know that

 

[Oldstyle]

What law prohibits Trump from asking the Ukraine to investigate the Bidens?

Doing so for personal gain is extortion by using 400 million in military aid as hostage in order to coerce that action

Using a foreign government to aid in an election is a breach of campaign finance laws.

But you know that

What I know, Lesh...is that something EVERY President has done...has suddenly become "unlawful" because it's Donald Trump that's doing it! Your definition of "personal gain" would apply to every President that ever negotiated with another nation who received foreign aid from the US! Donald Trump did not "extort" the Ukraine anymore than Barack Obama "extorted" Iraq...or George W. Bush "extorted" Israel...or Bill Clinton "extorted" the Palestinians! By your definition of "personal gain" EVERY President from the time that foreign aid began to be given has "extorted" other nations! What the Democrats are doing borders on farce!

 

[Uncensored2008]

Why doesn't it? Why do you on the left think Joe Biden is somehow "protected" from investigation for corruption because he's running for President? This isn't some smear job like Hillary Clinton paid for...it's a request to investigate something that has every appearance of being inappropriate! Trump is totally justified in asking the Ukrainian President to look into possible influence peddling by the former Vice President just as he's totally justified in looking into the Clinton campaign's possible collusion with foreign nationals.

Biden isnt protected.
Biden was investigated. Burisma was investigated.
Because this occurred 4 years ago, the result is here.

Trump bribed to get an announcement of another investigation to hurt his political opponent.

Say Comrade, what happened to the prosecutor in that case?

That video is from 2016.
The prosecutor Biden helped get removed was Shokin.
Shokin was removed because he didnt investigate corruption.

The Hunter-Burisma investigation was done earlier this year by the current prosecutor general, Lutsenko.
Apparently Trump/Giuliani werent satisfied with reality, so they tried to create their own.

The video is the end of the "investigation" you pretend to. The investigation stopped because Quid Pro blackmailed the Ukraine to stop the investigation. Pure and simple,

Its actually Janurary 2018, not 2016.
It was Shokin who was ousted by Biden.

As described here, Lutsenko investigated this issue this year.
Lutsenkeo held the prosecutor general position which Shokin had before.
Shokin had never investigated Biden.

 

[harmonica]

Sorry that won't cut it. They looked the other way when vp biden was actually involved in corrupt acts with ukraine and son. The hypocrisy is laughable. Trump broke no laws. The lib carnie show will roll on with their hate and emotion. That's all they have.

Biden broke no laws, he was mandated by his president and congress to do exactly what he did. Trump was acting in his own self interest to boost his political campaign. Big difference.

your opinion--only

 

[Faun]

Even if the last 4 years worth of investigations into Hunter + Burisma were faulty, it doesnt justify the president using bribery to get an announcement of another investigation.

Why doesn't it? Why do you on the left think Joe Biden is somehow "protected" from investigation for corruption because he's running for President? This isn't some smear job like Hillary Clinton paid for...it's a request to investigate something that has every appearance of being inappropriate! Trump is totally justified in asking the Ukrainian President to look into possible influence peddling by the former Vice President just as he's totally justified in looking into the Clinton campaign's possible collusion with foreign nationals.

"Why do you on the left think Joe Biden is somehow "protected" from investigation for corruption because he's running for President?"

What the fuck is wrong with your reading comprehension, lying con tool? Nobody said Biden is protected from investigation.

But when Trump asks for one you impeach him? Duh?

Because Trump is legally barred from soliciting a foreign national to investigate him, not because Biden is somehow "protected from investigation."

What law prohibits Trump from asking the Ukraine to investigate the Bidens?

§30121 Contributions and donations by foreign nationals

(a) Prohibition

It shall be unlawful for-

(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make-

(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;

(B) a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or

(C) an expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication (within the meaning of section 30104(f)(3) of this title); or​

(2) a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national.​

​

 

[Faun]

What law prohibits Trump from asking the Ukraine to investigate the Bidens?

Doing so for personal gain is extortion by using 400 million in military aid as hostage in order to coerce that action

Using a foreign government to aid in an election is a breach of campaign finance laws.

But you know that

What I know, Lesh...is that something EVERY President has done...has suddenly become "unlawful" because it's Donald Trump that's doing it! Your definition of "personal gain" would apply to every President that ever negotiated with another nation who received foreign aid from the US! Donald Trump did not "extort" the Ukraine anymore than Barack Obama "extorted" Iraq...or George W. Bush "extorted" Israel...or Bill Clinton "extorted" the Palestinians! By your definition of "personal gain" EVERY President from the time that foreign aid began to be given has "extorted" other nations! What the Democrats are doing borders on farce!

Oh, lying con tool? Which of those other presidents solicited help with their campaign from a foreign national? Cite examples...

 

[edward37]

WH tried to generate after the fact info ,justification, to block Ukraine aid

 

[Oldstyle]

Why doesn't it? Why do you on the left think Joe Biden is somehow "protected" from investigation for corruption because he's running for President? This isn't some smear job like Hillary Clinton paid for...it's a request to investigate something that has every appearance of being inappropriate! Trump is totally justified in asking the Ukrainian President to look into possible influence peddling by the former Vice President just as he's totally justified in looking into the Clinton campaign's possible collusion with foreign nationals.

"Why do you on the left think Joe Biden is somehow "protected" from investigation for corruption because he's running for President?"

What the fuck is wrong with your reading comprehension, lying con tool? Nobody said Biden is protected from investigation.

But when Trump asks for one you impeach him? Duh?

Because Trump is legally barred from soliciting a foreign national to investigate him, not because Biden is somehow "protected from investigation."

What law prohibits Trump from asking the Ukraine to investigate the Bidens?

§30121 Contributions and donations by foreign nationals

(a) Prohibition

It shall be unlawful for-

(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make-

(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;

(B) a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or

(C) an expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication (within the meaning of section 30104(f)(3) of this title); or​

(2) a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national.
​

So tell me, Faun...when countries such as Saudi Arabia gave millions to the Clinton Foundation...and then some of that Foundation money was used to supplement the salaries of Hillary Clinton campaign staffers...would THAT be a perfect example of a violation of S30121? Or is that to obvious for you on the left?

You see the only way you can make that statute apply to Trump is if you assign "value" to the damage that the truth did to the Hillary Clinton campaign when all of the sleazy things she'd been up to were exposed! You need that interpretation because without it...you've got nothing. Quite frankly I don't think that statute was ever meant to include ideas and facts...it referred to money being spent on US elections by foreigners. You know like Hillary's campaign actually DID!

 

[Oldstyle]

What law prohibits Trump from asking the Ukraine to investigate the Bidens?

Doing so for personal gain is extortion by using 400 million in military aid as hostage in order to coerce that action

Using a foreign government to aid in an election is a breach of campaign finance laws.

But you know that

What I know, Lesh...is that something EVERY President has done...has suddenly become "unlawful" because it's Donald Trump that's doing it! Your definition of "personal gain" would apply to every President that ever negotiated with another nation who received foreign aid from the US! Donald Trump did not "extort" the Ukraine anymore than Barack Obama "extorted" Iraq...or George W. Bush "extorted" Israel...or Bill Clinton "extorted" the Palestinians! By your definition of "personal gain" EVERY President from the time that foreign aid began to be given has "extorted" other nations! What the Democrats are doing borders on farce!

Oh, lying con tool? Which of those other presidents solicited help with their campaign from a foreign national? Cite examples...

Under your definition of "help", Faun...that would be EVERY single American President who ran for reelection! All of them asked political favors of other nations in order to make themselves look better. It's what Presidents DO!

 

[Faun]

"Why do you on the left think Joe Biden is somehow "protected" from investigation for corruption because he's running for President?"

What the fuck is wrong with your reading comprehension, lying con tool? Nobody said Biden is protected from investigation.

But when Trump asks for one you impeach him? Duh?

Because Trump is legally barred from soliciting a foreign national to investigate him, not because Biden is somehow "protected from investigation."

What law prohibits Trump from asking the Ukraine to investigate the Bidens?

§30121 Contributions and donations by foreign nationals

(a) Prohibition

It shall be unlawful for-

(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make-

(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;

(B) a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or

(C) an expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication (within the meaning of section 30104(f)(3) of this title); or​

(2) a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national.​

So tell me, Faun...when countries such as Saudi Arabia gave millions to the Clinton Foundation...and then some of that Foundation money was used to supplement the salaries of Hillary Clinton campaign staffers...would THAT be a perfect example of a violation of S30121? Or is that to obvious for you on the left?

You see the only way you can make that statute apply to Trump is if you assign "value" to the damage that the truth did to the Hillary Clinton campaign when all of the sleazy things she'd been up to were exposed! You need that interpretation because without it...you've got nothing. Quite frankly I don't think that statute was ever meant to include ideas and facts...it referred to money being spent on US elections by foreigners. You know like Hillary's campaign actually DID!

You saying shit sans proof means nothing, lying con tool.

 

[Faun]

What law prohibits Trump from asking the Ukraine to investigate the Bidens?

Doing so for personal gain is extortion by using 400 million in military aid as hostage in order to coerce that action

Using a foreign government to aid in an election is a breach of campaign finance laws.

But you know that

What I know, Lesh...is that something EVERY President has done...has suddenly become "unlawful" because it's Donald Trump that's doing it! Your definition of "personal gain" would apply to every President that ever negotiated with another nation who received foreign aid from the US! Donald Trump did not "extort" the Ukraine anymore than Barack Obama "extorted" Iraq...or George W. Bush "extorted" Israel...or Bill Clinton "extorted" the Palestinians! By your definition of "personal gain" EVERY President from the time that foreign aid began to be given has "extorted" other nations! What the Democrats are doing borders on farce!

Oh, lying con tool? Which of those other presidents solicited help with their campaign from a foreign national? Cite examples...

Under your definition of "help", Faun...that would be EVERY single American President who ran for reelection! All of them asked political favors of other nations in order to make themselves look better. It's what Presidents DO!

Lying con tool, try citing examples where any of them asked for help in eliminating their rivals....

 

[Lesh]

Under your definition of "help", Faun...that would be EVERY single American President who ran for reelection! All of them asked political favors of other nations in order to make themselves look better. It's what Presidents DO!

There's a MAJOR difference between doing something for the good of the nation that will "make yourself look good" and doing something that directly is meant to affect your election chances.

 

[Oldstyle]

Under your definition of "help", Faun...that would be EVERY single American President who ran for reelection! All of them asked political favors of other nations in order to make themselves look better. It's what Presidents DO!

There's a MAJOR difference between doing something for the good of the nation that will "make yourself look good" and doing something that directly is meant to affect your election chances.

Simple question then, Lesh...how is asking for an investigation into apparent corruption by the Biden's not good for the nation? Because it exposes Biden as someone who allowed his family to cash in on his position and power? Why would THAT not be for the good of the nation?

 

[Lesh]

Simple question then, Lesh...how is asking for an investigation into apparent corruption by the Biden's not good for the nation?

When it's done to make it LOOK like there is something there...that isn't?

Yea...that's for personal gain and THAT is extortion

 

[Oldstyle]

Simple question then, Lesh...how is asking for an investigation into apparent corruption by the Biden's not good for the nation?

When it's done to make it LOOK like there is something there...that isn't?

Yea...that's for personal gain and THAT is extortion

Nothing there? You mean Hunter Biden WASN'T paid big money for a job that he had zero qualifications for in the very area that his Father had just been placed in charge of by the Obama Administration?

 

[Oldstyle]

With all due respect, Lesh...what Hunter Biden did SMELLS to high heavens! You know it...I know it...and so do the Biden's!

 

[Faun]

Simple question then, Lesh...how is asking for an investigation into apparent corruption by the Biden's not good for the nation?

When it's done to make it LOOK like there is something there...that isn't?

Yea...that's for personal gain and THAT is extortion

Nothing there? You mean Hunter Biden WASN'T paid big money for a job that he had zero qualifications for in the very area that his Father had just been placed in charge of by the Obama Administration?

Lying con tool, that is not a crime. It was known for years. Trump waits until his father's running for president to make an issue of it?