Budget

[bendog]

I admit that I'd start with a 5% cut in domestic spending over two years, followed by restraining and growth in domestic expenditures to be less than gnp increases, which won't be cool with the more liberal folks.

But, I don't think you can do that with soc sec or medicare, because the # of beneficiaries will increase - over the short term - so while we need to increase eligibility age and restrain benefit increases to address long term problems, we have to find a way to bridge the 10-15 year boomers retirement. Some of you may recall that Slick figured his "surplus" would be the bridge, but W spent it on giving the tax cut largely to the top 1 and 10%. The more right leaning folks don't like it, but if we did away with the payroll tax cap, medicare would be solvent. Just sayin.

I'm not sure we can really cut for spending because of defense. Putin is attempting to destabilize Europe, and while in terms or real power, he's a small dog, he barks loudly and his teeth are sharp. Trump says we should leave Isis to Russia, yet Russia uses Isis to conflate Europe's refugee problem, and given the 9-11 attacks, I don't think having any govt or regional power that will permit terrorists to train for attacks in the US and the West is really acceptable.

But, we could just eliminate "some" tax expenditures that really have no overall economic benefit to the economy, and raise a billion here and a billion there without changing income tax rates. That's not real reform, but if the gop muzzles the 40 or so Freedom Caucus folks, it'd be .... painless.

 

[rightwinger]

I don't think you progressives know what the war of attrition is??

Make it so one side or the other has everything to lose, winner take all mentality. That way either side fight to the bitter end.

The winning side can do what they want, the losing side lick their wounds and try to recover, if they can't so be it. Start over.

What are you babbling about?

With your constant whining about debt, what is your plan for attacking our debt?

Nothing can be done about the debt, a solution is too far gone.

The country is gone, most just have not realized it yet.
Whatever happens in the next election matters not, either way will divide the country all the more. Sh!t happens

 

[rightwinger]

Now...if we want to attack our $18 trillion in national debt, which group should we expect the most from tax wise?

Now, in terms of spending cuts, which slice of the pie should take the biggest hit?

 

[Rustic]

I don't think you progressives know what the war of attrition is??

Make it so one side or the other has everything to lose, winner take all mentality. That way either side fight to the bitter end.

The winning side can do what they want, the losing side lick their wounds and try to recover, if they can't so be it. Start over.

What are you babbling about?

With your constant whining about debt, what is your plan for attacking our debt?

Nothing can be done about the debt, a solution is too far gone.

The country is gone, most just have not realized it yet.
Whatever happens in the next election matters not, either way will divide the country all the more. Sh!t happens

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Your deflecting, what say you??

 

[Rustic]

Now...if we want to attack our $18 trillion in national debt, which group should we expect the most from?

Why punish them for their success??

 

[Rustic]

I admit that I'd start with a 5% cut in domestic spending over two years, followed by restraining and growth in domestic expenditures to be less than gnp increases, which won't be cool with the more liberal folks.

But, I don't think you can do that with soc sec or medicare, because the # of beneficiaries will increase - over the short term - so while we need to increase eligibility age and restrain benefit increases to address long term problems, we have to find a way to bridge the 10-15 year boomers retirement. Some of you may recall that Slick figured his "surplus" would be the bridge, but W spent it on giving the tax cut largely to the top 1 and 10%. The more right leaning folks don't like it, but if we did away with the payroll tax cap, medicare would be solvent. Just sayin.

I'm not sure we can really cut for spending because of defense. Putin is attempting to destabilize Europe, and while in terms or real power, he's a small dog, he barks loudly and his teeth are sharp. Trump says we should leave Isis to Russia, yet Russia uses Isis to conflate Europe's refugee problem, and given the 9-11 attacks, I don't think having any govt or regional power that will permit terrorists to train for attacks in the US and the West is really acceptable.

But, we could just eliminate "some" tax expenditures that really have no overall economic benefit to the economy, and raise a billion here and a billion there without changing income tax rates. That's not real reform, but if the gop muzzles the 40 or so Freedom Caucus folks, it'd be .... painless.

I am willing to give up all SS, Medicare and whatever on my part, but I see very few willing to do the same.

 

[rightwinger]

Now...if we want to attack our $18 trillion in national debt, which group should we expect the most from?

Why punish them for their success??

How is helping to resolve our debt problem "punishment"?

You have to go where the money is and it is not with the 40% of the population that has 2 tenths of a percent of the wealth

 

[bendog]

Please, stop enabling him by discussing the debt. It's entirely a different subject.

 

[Rustic]

Now...if we want to attack our $18 trillion in national debt, which group should we expect the most from?

Why punish them for their success??

How is helping to resolve our debt problem "punishment"?

You have to go where the money is and it is not with the 40% of the population that has 2 tenths of a percent of the wealth

Taking what is not yours is never the right thing to do...

 

[Rustic]

Please, stop enabling him by discussing the debt. It's entirely a different subject.

I am willing pass on any SS, Medicare and any other socialist programs available to me... Was not planning on them anyway.
I don't use any now so no lost to me in any way.

How about your contribution??

 

[rightwinger]

Now...if we want to attack our $18 trillion in national debt, which group should we expect the most from?

Why punish them for their success??

How is helping to resolve our debt problem "punishment"?

You have to go where the money is and it is not with the 40% of the population that has 2 tenths of a percent of the wealth

Taking what is not yours is never the right thing to do...

You are the one who whines in every thread about how horrible our national debt is

Then when I post where the money has to come from, you whine about being mean to the wealthy

 

[Siete]

I admit that I'd start with a 5% cut in domestic spending over two years, followed by restraining and growth in domestic expenditures to be less than gnp increases, which won't be cool with the more liberal folks.

But, I don't think you can do that with soc sec or medicare, because the # of beneficiaries will increase - over the short term - so while we need to increase eligibility age and restrain benefit increases to address long term problems, we have to find a way to bridge the 10-15 year boomers retirement. Some of you may recall that Slick figured his "surplus" would be the bridge, but W spent it on giving the tax cut largely to the top 1 and 10%. The more right leaning folks don't like it, but if we did away with the payroll tax cap, medicare would be solvent. Just sayin.

I'm not sure we can really cut for spending because of defense. Putin is attempting to destabilize Europe, and while in terms or real power, he's a small dog, he barks loudly and his teeth are sharp. Trump says we should leave Isis to Russia, yet Russia uses Isis to conflate Europe's refugee problem, and given the 9-11 attacks, I don't think having any govt or regional power that will permit terrorists to train for attacks in the US and the West is really acceptable.

But, we could just eliminate "some" tax expenditures that really have no overall economic benefit to the economy, and raise a billion here and a billion there without changing income tax rates. That's not real reform, but if the gop muzzles the 40 or so Freedom Caucus folks, it'd be .... painless.

I am willing to give up all SS, Medicare and whatever on my part, but I see very few willing to do the same.

all the above have NOTHING to do with Federal Budgets, Federal, Deficits and Federal Debt .... glad you're willing to do your part, which is NOTHING.

 

[Rustic]

Now...if we want to attack our $18 trillion in national debt, which group should we expect the most from?

Why punish them for their success??

How is helping to resolve our debt problem "punishment"?

You have to go where the money is and it is not with the 40% of the population that has 2 tenths of a percent of the wealth

Taking what is not yours is never the right thing to do...

You are the one who whines in every thread about how horrible our national debt is

Then when I post where the money has to come from, you whine about being mean to the wealthy

Just saying that money already belongs to someone, no reason for taking it.

 

[Rustic]

I admit that I'd start with a 5% cut in domestic spending over two years, followed by restraining and growth in domestic expenditures to be less than gnp increases, which won't be cool with the more liberal folks.

But, I don't think you can do that with soc sec or medicare, because the # of beneficiaries will increase - over the short term - so while we need to increase eligibility age and restrain benefit increases to address long term problems, we have to find a way to bridge the 10-15 year boomers retirement. Some of you may recall that Slick figured his "surplus" would be the bridge, but W spent it on giving the tax cut largely to the top 1 and 10%. The more right leaning folks don't like it, but if we did away with the payroll tax cap, medicare would be solvent. Just sayin.

I'm not sure we can really cut for spending because of defense. Putin is attempting to destabilize Europe, and while in terms or real power, he's a small dog, he barks loudly and his teeth are sharp. Trump says we should leave Isis to Russia, yet Russia uses Isis to conflate Europe's refugee problem, and given the 9-11 attacks, I don't think having any govt or regional power that will permit terrorists to train for attacks in the US and the West is really acceptable.

But, we could just eliminate "some" tax expenditures that really have no overall economic benefit to the economy, and raise a billion here and a billion there without changing income tax rates. That's not real reform, but if the gop muzzles the 40 or so Freedom Caucus folks, it'd be .... painless.

I am willing to give up all SS, Medicare and whatever on my part, but I see very few willing to do the same.

all the above have NOTHING to do with Federal Budgets, Federal, Deficits and Federal Debt .... glad you're willing to do your part, which is NOTHING.

You just now made my point, the federal government spent all OUR money now we are broke, and THEY WANT TO COME BACK FOR MORE?!??! To hell with them.

 

[rightwinger]

Now...if we want to attack our $18 trillion in national debt, which group should we expect the most from?

Why punish them for their success??

How is helping to resolve our debt problem "punishment"?

You have to go where the money is and it is not with the 40% of the population that has 2 tenths of a percent of the wealth

Taking what is not yours is never the right thing to do...

You are the one who whines in every thread about how horrible our national debt is

Then when I post where the money has to come from, you whine about being mean to the wealthy

Just saying that money already belongs to someone, no reason for taking it.

We are talking about taxing future earnings to help fight our debt

You have to go where the future earnings lie

 

[Rustic]

Why punish them for their success??

How is helping to resolve our debt problem "punishment"?

You have to go where the money is and it is not with the 40% of the population that has 2 tenths of a percent of the wealth

Taking what is not yours is never the right thing to do...

You are the one who whines in every thread about how horrible our national debt is

Then when I post where the money has to come from, you whine about being mean to the wealthy

Just saying that money already belongs to someone, no reason for taking it.

We are talking about taxing future earnings to help fight our debt

You have to go where the future earnings lie

Ask for them then, if no one will not give them freely... tough.
A luxury tax comes to mind...

 

[rightwinger]

How is helping to resolve our debt problem "punishment"?

You have to go where the money is and it is not with the 40% of the population that has 2 tenths of a percent of the wealth

Taking what is not yours is never the right thing to do...

You are the one who whines in every thread about how horrible our national debt is

Then when I post where the money has to come from, you whine about being mean to the wealthy

Just saying that money already belongs to someone, no reason for taking it.

We are talking about taxing future earnings to help fight our debt

You have to go where the future earnings lie

Ask for them then, if no one will not give them freely... tough.
A luxury tax comes to mind...

Lets return to the pre-Reagan tax rates and apply 100% of the added revenue to paying down debt

 

[Siete]

in some polls "rain man" is beating hillary in head to head matchups>

how will leftardz handle THAT????

sit back and watch the RRW candidates hack away at each other until they've proven how incompetent each of them really are ???

i guess i'll go ahead and ask this idiot what i asked the other LWNJs and still cant get an answer for;

where are all these awesome liberals running that are poised to take the House back for Democrats?

what districts?

what are their names???

take back the House ? Really?

remind everyone how Carson is running for a seat in the House?

go ahead, this should be real good...

because you're an idiot; you need things broken down more clearly. i get it.

the overall point is where is this huge refutation of republican candidates OR policies???

Taking what is not yours is never the right thing to do...

You are the one who whines in every thread about how horrible our national debt is

Then when I post where the money has to come from, you whine about being mean to the wealthy

Just saying that money already belongs to someone, no reason for taking it.

We are talking about taxing future earnings to help fight our debt

You have to go where the future earnings lie

Ask for them then, if no one will not give them freely... tough.
A luxury tax comes to mind...

Lets return to the pre-Reagan tax rates and apply 100% of the added revenue to paying down debt

and Rusty can give up his SS too ...

 

[Rustic]

Taking what is not yours is never the right thing to do...

You are the one who whines in every thread about how horrible our national debt is

Then when I post where the money has to come from, you whine about being mean to the wealthy

Just saying that money already belongs to someone, no reason for taking it.

We are talking about taxing future earnings to help fight our debt

You have to go where the future earnings lie

Ask for them then, if no one will not give them freely... tough.
A luxury tax comes to mind...

Lets return to the pre-Reagan tax rates and apply 100% of the added revenue to paying down debt

Ok, you try that, being a drop in the ocean.
Let's tax 100% of the top 50%... Still a drop in the ocean.

Next...

 

[jillian]

You can always count on the Rinos to screw the country, the fix is in a budget is agreed upon.

i think by now you should probably acknowledge that you're the RINO's who don't have a clue how to govern. leave the real republicans alone, go start a wingnut party and move on.