Budget

[Rustic]

You guys underestimate the earning power of the U.S.

The worst debt we ever had was back in ww2 days . We could wipe this shit out in no time. BUT people like the shiney things . They like having the best military in the world . We like pictures of Pluto and NFL stadiums . We like not having poor old people dying in the street . We like big airports and 5 lane highways .

Every one of us likes something the gov is doing .

True, the shiny object is always appealing.
Resist the shiny object, the federal government can always use a diet and can always be put on one...

 

[Siete]

You guys underestimate the earning power of the U.S.

The worst debt we ever had was back in ww2 days . We could wipe this shit out in no time. BUT people like the shiney things . They like having the best military in the world . We like pictures of Pluto and NFL stadiums . We like not having poor old people dying in the street . We like big airports and 5 lane highways .

Every one of us likes something the gov is doing .

True, the shiny object is always appealing.
Resist the shiny object, the federal government can always use a diet and can always be put on one...

you just said it was too late to repair the problems the government created, now you offer a diet plan ? ... stick with shiny objects.

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[Rustic]

Time we dont have...
Next

what nonsense....

How much time do you think we have??

...the last I checked the world is burning, and not getting better.

so you really don't want to start paying down the debt ... there isn't enough time.

got it.

no sense in talking about our children's grandchildren and their fate with the debt anymore is there?

idgets!

Yes, we have screwed future generations for many decades now... And certainly is not getting any better.
Sh!t has already happened

Buy more guns and ammo

shit has already happened, yet you want to fix it, then you say it can't be fixed ...

there you have it people , whatever it is.

What done is done, you pass the point of no return there is no going back.
Borrowed time and money baby...

That's life... Sh!t happens

 

[Rustic]

You guys underestimate the earning power of the U.S.

The worst debt we ever had was back in ww2 days . We could wipe this shit out in no time. BUT people like the shiney things . They like having the best military in the world . We like pictures of Pluto and NFL stadiums . We like not having poor old people dying in the street . We like big airports and 5 lane highways .

Every one of us likes something the gov is doing .

True, the shiny object is always appealing.
Resist the shiny object, the federal government can always use a diet and can always be put on one...

you just said it was too late to repair the problems the government created, now you offer a diet plan ? ... stick with shiny objects.

CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC YA

...passed the point of no return already.

Sh!t happens

Buy more guns and ammo...

 

[Timmy]

We could cut every program by 10% . It'd be easy . Sure some annoying drop off here n there , but totally doable .

 

[Rustic]

You guys underestimate the earning power of the U.S.

The worst debt we ever had was back in ww2 days . We could wipe this shit out in no time. BUT people like the shiney things . They like having the best military in the world . We like pictures of Pluto and NFL stadiums . We like not having poor old people dying in the street . We like big airports and 5 lane highways .

Every one of us likes something the gov is doing .

True, the shiny object is always appealing.
Resist the shiny object, the federal government can always use a diet and can always be put on one...

Too bad it's too late to matter in any real way.

Buy more guns and ammo...

 

[Timmy]

what nonsense....

How much time do you think we have??

...the last I checked the world is burning, and not getting better.

so you really don't want to start paying down the debt ... there isn't enough time.

got it.

no sense in talking about our children's grandchildren and their fate with the debt anymore is there?

idgets!

Yes, we have screwed future generations for many decades now... And certainly is not getting any better.
Sh!t has already happened

Buy more guns and ammo

shit has already happened, yet you want to fix it, then you say it can't be fixed ...

there you have it people , whatever it is.

What done is done, you pass the point of no return there is no going back.
Borrowed time and money baby...

That's life... Sh!t happens

Rusty ,

Shit was way worse in the 40s. We came back from that .

Enough of the gloom n doom.

 

[Rustic]

We could cut every program by 10% . It'd be easy . Sure some annoying drop off here n there , but totally doable .

You really think the left or right will be up for that??
Both sides need to stand their ground no matter cost, as they should.

 

[Rustic]

How much time do you think we have??

...the last I checked the world is burning, and not getting better.

so you really don't want to start paying down the debt ... there isn't enough time.

got it.

no sense in talking about our children's grandchildren and their fate with the debt anymore is there?

idgets!

Yes, we have screwed future generations for many decades now... And certainly is not getting any better.
Sh!t has already happened

Buy more guns and ammo

shit has already happened, yet you want to fix it, then you say it can't be fixed ...

there you have it people , whatever it is.

What done is done, you pass the point of no return there is no going back.
Borrowed time and money baby...

That's life... Sh!t happens

Rusty ,

Shit was way worse in the 40s. We came back from that .

Enough of the gloom n doom.

Believe me, because of the world is burning and we happen to be the best off of the worst. Just a matter of time for things to go nuclear. No one knows the time and date... Sh!t will happen on top of the sh!t that has already happened.

Buy more guns and ammo...

 

[Timmy]

We could cut every program by 10% . It'd be easy . Sure some annoying drop off here n there , but totally doable .

You really think the left or right will be up for that??
Both sides need to stand their ground no matter cost, as they should.

No they wouldnt ! It's political suicide !

Remember the last gov shut down . People freaked over frivolous shit like national parks being closed.

 

[Rustic]

We could cut every program by 10% . It'd be easy . Sure some annoying drop off here n there , but totally doable .

You really think the left or right will be up for that??
Both sides need to stand their ground no matter cost, as they should.

No they wouldnt ! It's political suicide !

Remember the last gov shut down . People freaked over frivolous shit like national parks being closed.

It's already baked in the cake... As with our fiscal gap the gap between the left and right is only widening.
As it should if you can't stand your ground you ain't sh!t.

Getting along all the time is no way to live...

 

[rightwinger]

We are talking about taxing future earnings to help fight our debt

You have to go where the future earnings lie

Ask for them then, if no one will not give them freely... tough.
A luxury tax comes to mind...

Lets return to the pre-Reagan tax rates and apply 100% of the added revenue to paying down debt

Ok, you try that, being a drop in the ocean.
Let's tax 100% of the top 50%... Still a drop in the ocean.

Next...

Far from a drop in the ocean

Federal Tax Revenue Surpasses $3 Trillion for First Time Ever

And that was from only a 4% hike on those making over $400K

Long way to go... Still

Next...

We accumulated our debt over 30 years, we can pay it off over 30 years

 

[Rustic]

Ask for them then, if no one will not give them freely... tough.
A luxury tax comes to mind...

Lets return to the pre-Reagan tax rates and apply 100% of the added revenue to paying down debt

Ok, you try that, being a drop in the ocean.
Let's tax 100% of the top 50%... Still a drop in the ocean.

Next...

Far from a drop in the ocean

Federal Tax Revenue Surpasses $3 Trillion for First Time Ever

And that was from only a 4% hike on those making over $400K

Long way to go... Still

Next...

We accumulated our debt over 30 years, we can pay it off over 30 years

Whatever, you may be fine with loads of debt.

I much prefer to have no debt, having debt always makes one a slave.

I owe nothing to anyone... Feels great.
Think on how much better our country would function is that was true, negotiations would sooo much better on our part, we could actually stand our ground as an country on everything.

Too bad we passed the piont of no return decades ago...

 

[rightwinger]

Lets return to the pre-Reagan tax rates and apply 100% of the added revenue to paying down debt

Ok, you try that, being a drop in the ocean.
Let's tax 100% of the top 50%... Still a drop in the ocean.

Next...

Far from a drop in the ocean

Federal Tax Revenue Surpasses $3 Trillion for First Time Ever

And that was from only a 4% hike on those making over $400K

Long way to go... Still

Next...

We accumulated our debt over 30 years, we can pay it off over 30 years

Whatever, you may be fine with loads of debt.

I much prefer to have no debt, having debt always makes one a slave.

I owe nothing to anyone... Feels great.
Think on how much better our country would function is that was true, negotiations would sooo much better on our part, we could actually stand our ground as an country on everything.

Too bad we passed the piont of no return decades ago...

Debt is no problem if you are able to make the payments. I owe more in debt than I make in a year but I can easily make the payments

Doesn't mean I am bankrupt and I am in no hurry to pay it off

 

[Rustic]

Ok, you try that, being a drop in the ocean.
Let's tax 100% of the top 50%... Still a drop in the ocean.

Next...

Far from a drop in the ocean

Federal Tax Revenue Surpasses $3 Trillion for First Time Ever

And that was from only a 4% hike on those making over $400K

Long way to go... Still

Next...

We accumulated our debt over 30 years, we can pay it off over 30 years

Whatever, you may be fine with loads of debt.

I much prefer to have no debt, having debt always makes one a slave.

I owe nothing to anyone... Feels great.
Think on how much better our country would function is that was true, negotiations would sooo much better on our part, we could actually stand our ground as an country on everything.

Too bad we passed the piont of no return decades ago...

Debt is no problem if you are able to make the payments. I owe more in debt than I make in a year but I can easily make the payments

Doesn't mean I am bankrupt and I am in no hurry to pay it off

Your living backwards then...

 

[Davros]

Now...if we want to attack our $18 trillion in national debt, which group should we expect the most from?

Why punish them for their success??

It's not punishment. It's raising revenue where there's revenue available to raise.

 

[rightwinger]

Far from a drop in the ocean

Federal Tax Revenue Surpasses $3 Trillion for First Time Ever

And that was from only a 4% hike on those making over $400K

Long way to go... Still

Next...

We accumulated our debt over 30 years, we can pay it off over 30 years

Whatever, you may be fine with loads of debt.

I much prefer to have no debt, having debt always makes one a slave.

I owe nothing to anyone... Feels great.
Think on how much better our country would function is that was true, negotiations would sooo much better on our part, we could actually stand our ground as an country on everything.

Too bad we passed the piont of no return decades ago...

Debt is no problem if you are able to make the payments. I owe more in debt than I make in a year but I can easily make the payments

Doesn't mean I am bankrupt and I am in no hurry to pay it off

Your living backwards then...

Not at all
Most Americans understand the concept of credit and the accumulation and management of debt. Most businesses run on the same principle

 

[Rustic]

Now...if we want to attack our $18 trillion in national debt, which group should we expect the most from?

Why punish them for their success??

It's not punishment. It's raising revenue where there's revenue available to raise.

Taking is always a punishment...

 

[Rustic]

Long way to go... Still

Next...

We accumulated our debt over 30 years, we can pay it off over 30 years

Whatever, you may be fine with loads of debt.

I much prefer to have no debt, having debt always makes one a slave.

I owe nothing to anyone... Feels great.
Think on how much better our country would function is that was true, negotiations would sooo much better on our part, we could actually stand our ground as an country on everything.

Too bad we passed the piont of no return decades ago...

Debt is no problem if you are able to make the payments. I owe more in debt than I make in a year but I can easily make the payments

Doesn't mean I am bankrupt and I am in no hurry to pay it off

Your living backwards then...

Not at all
Most Americans understand the concept of credit and the accumulation and management of debt. Most businesses run on the same principle

Does not make it right...
In debt = means being a slave

 

[Davros]

Far from a drop in the ocean

Federal Tax Revenue Surpasses $3 Trillion for First Time Ever

And that was from only a 4% hike on those making over $400K

Long way to go... Still

Next...

We accumulated our debt over 30 years, we can pay it off over 30 years

Whatever, you may be fine with loads of debt.

I much prefer to have no debt, having debt always makes one a slave.

I owe nothing to anyone... Feels great.
Think on how much better our country would function is that was true, negotiations would sooo much better on our part, we could actually stand our ground as an country on everything.

Too bad we passed the piont of no return decades ago...

Debt is no problem if you are able to make the payments. I owe more in debt than I make in a year but I can easily make the payments

Doesn't mean I am bankrupt and I am in no hurry to pay it off

Your living backwards then...

Wrong.