Can any con here tell me the difference between a moderate liberal and an extremist?

Again, so if the stimulus didn't have the effect Obama predicted, then how do you know it worked?

The fact is unemployment started a sharp decline the day Obama was inaugurated. (for dumb asses, that means before he could pass any legislation). Obama simply cashed in on a trend that was already well underway to get is boondoggle vote buying scheme passed.

You're an idiot. Obama's overselling of the stimulus is completely irrelevant at this point. The plan worked and you are two childish to admit it.

Where is the evidence his inauguration had anything to do with the unemployment rate? And how do you explain the millions we lost under his watch?

Oh that's right. It doesn't exist.

How could Obama's stimulus create jobs when the money went to the public sector unions, so-called 'green' energy companies that went bankrupt, Al Gore, blue states and Washington DC....?

talk about losing millions....:rolleyes:

You obviously have no idea what the stimulus had in it.
 
Again, so if the stimulus didn't have the effect Obama predicted, then how do you know it worked?

The fact is unemployment started a sharp decline the day Obama was inaugurated. (for dumb asses, that means before he could pass any legislation). Obama simply cashed in on a trend that was already well underway to get is boondoggle vote buying scheme passed.

You're an idiot. Obama's overselling of the stimulus is completely irrelevant at this point. The plan worked and you are two childish to admit it.

You have no proof of any sort that it worked. The rate of job loss was already well underway for the Stimulus was pass, and it took even longer before any of the money was spent.

Where is the evidence his inauguration had anything to do with the unemployment rate? And how do you explain the millions we lost under his watch?

Since you're a dumbass, I'll repeat it for you: The fact is unemployment started a sharp decline the day Obama was inaugurated. (for dumb asses, that means before he could pass any legislation) It shows that the Obama Administration had nothing to do with the decrease in the rate of job loss. It was already well underway before Obama and his minions had a chance to do a thing.

Oh that's right. It doesn't exist.

What the hell are you talking about?

Don't be stupid about this. The sharp decline happened months before Obama was inaugerated. It leveled out and the economy began to create jobs when the stimulus came into effect. The jobs we lost in his first few months were not his fault. How could they be? The decline began with Bush.
 
A moderate Democrat is one who supports the stimulus/Obamacare but with some reservations, supports a balanced-budget amendment, opposes excessive environmental regulations like cap-and-trade and drilling bans, and is in favor of free trade.

My Senator, Joe Donnelly, is a good example. While I respect him a lot more than Obama/Pelosi, when push comes to shove, he usually toes the party line.
 
You're an idiot. Obama's overselling of the stimulus is completely irrelevant at this point. The plan worked and you are two childish to admit it.

You have no proof of any sort that it worked. The rate of job loss was already well underway for the Stimulus was pass, and it took even longer before any of the money was spent.



Since you're a dumbass, I'll repeat it for you: The fact is unemployment started a sharp decline the day Obama was inaugurated. (for dumb asses, that means before he could pass any legislation) It shows that the Obama Administration had nothing to do with the decrease in the rate of job loss. It was already well underway before Obama and his minions had a chance to do a thing.

Oh that's right. It doesn't exist.

What the hell are you talking about?

Don't be stupid about this. The sharp decline happened months before Obama was inaugerated. It leveled out and the economy began to create jobs when the stimulus came into effect. The jobs we lost in his first few months were not his fault. How could they be? The decline began with Bush.

Nope. It started the day he was inaugurated:

Monthly-Private-Emp-Change-09-12.jpg


Obama signed the so-called "Stimulus" Feb 19, 2009," but most of the spending didn't kick in until much later.
 
Moderate Liberal: "Trust me, I will pull out first."

Extreme Liberal: "Trust me, I will pull out first."
 
Can any con here tell me the difference between a moderate liberal and an extremist?

Easy. Liberals are a small part of a diverse party called "Democrats.

Extremists are what the vast majority of the 90% white Republican Party are.

This is what many Republicans have to say:

Tank: Homosexuality, welfare, unemployment, dropouts, STD.s. obesity, fatherless children, abortion, rape, murder are not Republican values, so thats why blacks, hispanics and gays are democrats

Liberals are part of both parties, but the vast majority of them are independents.
 
Can any con here tell me the difference between a moderate liberal and an extremist?

Easy. Liberals are a small part of a diverse party called "Democrats.

Extremists are what the vast majority of the 90% white Republican Party are.

This is what many Republicans have to say:

Tank: Homosexuality, welfare, unemployment, dropouts, STD.s. obesity, fatherless children, abortion, rape, murder are not Republican values, so thats why blacks, hispanics and gays are democrats

Here's the difference: the later exists. the former doesn't.

BTW, deenie, "extremist" isn't a euphemism meaning "Republican."

Failed "trickle down" economic policy.

Trillions in debt for "freeing" a Middle Eastern theocracy that hates our guts.

Letting Bin Laden go scott free.

"Let him die" masquerading as "health care".

A redistribution of wealth to the top 1%.

Wrecking the economy.

Hatred for education and science.

If that isn't "extremist", then what is?
 
Again, so if the stimulus didn't have the effect Obama predicted, then how do you know it worked?

The fact is unemployment started a sharp decline the day Obama was inaugurated. (for dumb asses, that means before he could pass any legislation). Obama simply cashed in on a trend that was already well underway to get is boondoggle vote buying scheme passed.

You're an idiot. Obama's overselling of the stimulus is completely irrelevant at this point. The plan worked and you are two childish to admit it.

You have no proof of any sort that it worked. The rate of job loss was already well underway for the Stimulus was pass, and it took even longer before any of the money was spent.

Where is the evidence his inauguration had anything to do with the unemployment rate? And how do you explain the millions we lost under his watch?

Since you're a dumbass, I'll repeat it for you: The fact is unemployment started a sharp decline the day Obama was inaugurated. (for dumb asses, that means before he could pass any legislation) It shows that the Obama Administration had nothing to do with the decrease in the rate of job loss. It was already well underway before Obama and his minions had a chance to do a thing.

Oh that's right. It doesn't exist.

What the hell are you talking about?

You have no proof of any sort that it worked. The rate of job loss was already well underway for the Stimulus was pass, and it took even longer before any of the money was spent.



Since you're a dumbass, I'll repeat it for you: The fact is unemployment started a sharp decline the day Obama was inaugurated. (for dumb asses, that means before he could pass any legislation) It shows that the Obama Administration had nothing to do with the decrease in the rate of job loss. It was already well underway before Obama and his minions had a chance to do a thing.



What the hell are you talking about?

Don't be stupid about this. The sharp decline happened months before Obama was inaugerated. It leveled out and the economy began to create jobs when the stimulus came into effect. The jobs we lost in his first few months were not his fault. How could they be? The decline began with Bush.

Nope. It started the day he was inaugurated:

Monthly-Private-Emp-Change-09-12.jpg


Obama signed the so-called "Stimulus" Feb 19, 2009," but most of the spending didn't kick in until much later.

So not only are you just ignoring the red lines completely, but you showed a graph that demonstrated the success of his stimulus.

Wow good job. :clap2:
 
You're an idiot. Obama's overselling of the stimulus is completely irrelevant at this point. The plan worked and you are two childish to admit it.

You have no proof of any sort that it worked. The rate of job loss was already well underway for the Stimulus was pass, and it took even longer before any of the money was spent.



Since you're a dumbass, I'll repeat it for you: The fact is unemployment started a sharp decline the day Obama was inaugurated. (for dumb asses, that means before he could pass any legislation) It shows that the Obama Administration had nothing to do with the decrease in the rate of job loss. It was already well underway before Obama and his minions had a chance to do a thing.



What the hell are you talking about?

Don't be stupid about this. The sharp decline happened months before Obama was inaugerated. It leveled out and the economy began to create jobs when the stimulus came into effect. The jobs we lost in his first few months were not his fault. How could they be? The decline began with Bush.

Nope. It started the day he was inaugurated:

Monthly-Private-Emp-Change-09-12.jpg


Obama signed the so-called "Stimulus" Feb 19, 2009," but most of the spending didn't kick in until much later.

So not only are you just ignoring the red lines completely, but you showed a graph that demonstrated the success of his stimulus.

Wow good job. :clap2:


Hmmm, no, it didn't. Note that the decline starts before the stimulus was even passed. Furthermore, most of the spending didn't occur until much later. It shows that the rate of job loss was declining before Obama did a thing.

However, I know a dumb ass like you thinks it does because you can't read a chart.
 
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You have no proof of any sort that it worked. The rate of job loss was already well underway for the Stimulus was pass, and it took even longer before any of the money was spent.



Since you're a dumbass, I'll repeat it for you: The fact is unemployment started a sharp decline the day Obama was inaugurated. (for dumb asses, that means before he could pass any legislation) It shows that the Obama Administration had nothing to do with the decrease in the rate of job loss. It was already well underway before Obama and his minions had a chance to do a thing.



What the hell are you talking about?

Nope. It started the day he was inaugurated:

Monthly-Private-Emp-Change-09-12.jpg


Obama signed the so-called "Stimulus" Feb 19, 2009," but most of the spending didn't kick in until much later.

So not only are you just ignoring the red lines completely, but you showed a graph that demonstrated the success of his stimulus.

Wow good job. :clap2:


Hmmm, no, it didn't. Note that the decline starts before the stimulus was even passed. Furthermore, most of the spending didn't occur until much later. It shows that the rate of job loss was declining before Obama did a thing.

However, I know a dumb ass like you thinks it does because you can't read a chart.

Yeah no shit the decline began during Bush's last months. He is what fucked this country over. And obviously the day Obama signed the law wouldn't see much change. It obviously needs to take effect first
 
You have no proof of any sort that it worked. The rate of job loss was already well underway for the Stimulus was pass, and it took even longer before any of the money was spent.



Since you're a dumbass, I'll repeat it for you: The fact is unemployment started a sharp decline the day Obama was inaugurated. (for dumb asses, that means before he could pass any legislation) It shows that the Obama Administration had nothing to do with the decrease in the rate of job loss. It was already well underway before Obama and his minions had a chance to do a thing.



What the hell are you talking about?

Nope. It started the day he was inaugurated:

Monthly-Private-Emp-Change-09-12.jpg


Obama signed the so-called "Stimulus" Feb 19, 2009," but most of the spending didn't kick in until much later.

So not only are you just ignoring the red lines completely, but you showed a graph that demonstrated the success of his stimulus.

Wow good job. :clap2:


Hmmm, no, it didn't. Note that the decline starts before the stimulus was even passed. Furthermore, most of the spending didn't occur until much later. It shows that the rate of job loss was declining before Obama did a thing.

However, I know a dumb ass like you thinks it does because you can't read a chart.

What the fuck are you talking about? No dumbass you can't read the graph. The graph clearly says the job loss rate began to decline in March of 09.

Get a fucking clue dude.
 
A moderate liberal gets its news from ABC, NBC and CBS.

An extreme liberal tunes exclusively to CNN and PMSNBC. The most extreme also have apps for them on their (smarter-than-them) phones so they never miss their talking points memos.

Why would any liberal watch the Conservative News Network (CNN)? Or the even equally conservative ABC and CBS? NBC, not quite as bad.

Actual liberals don't get any news from the TV, of course, or from political blogs. They go to the independent data sources.

Given that MSNBC gives half its program time to conservatives, it's interesting that conservatives still hate it. Equal time isn't enough for conservatives. Conservatives know they lose big if liberals get equal time, and that they need all the media to have a chance. Thus conservatives want to destroy any source that gives equal time. We liberals, OTOH, know we win with equal time, hence why we're so happy to give it to conservatives.
 
So not only are you just ignoring the red lines completely, but you showed a graph that demonstrated the success of his stimulus.

Wow good job. :clap2:


Hmmm, no, it didn't. Note that the decline starts before the stimulus was even passed. Furthermore, most of the spending didn't occur until much later. It shows that the rate of job loss was declining before Obama did a thing.

However, I know a dumb ass like you thinks it does because you can't read a chart.

What the fuck are you talking about? No dumbass you can't read the graph. The graph clearly says the job loss rate began to decline in March of 09.

Get a fucking clue dude.

The graph isn't that precise, numskull. It looks to me like the peak occurred in Jan. However, as I said before, much of the spending from Obama's "Stimulus" didn't even begin until much later in the year, so how did it have any affect on unemployment in Feb?
 
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Hmmm, no, it didn't. Note that the decline starts before the stimulus was even passed. Furthermore, most of the spending didn't occur until much later. It shows that the rate of job loss was declining before Obama did a thing.

However, I know a dumb ass like you thinks it does because you can't read a chart.

What the fuck are you talking about? No dumbass you can't read the graph. The graph clearly says the job loss rate began to decline in March of 09.

Get a fucking clue dude.

The graph isn't that precise, numskull. It looks to me like the peak occurred in Jan. However, as I said before, much of the spending from Obama's "Stimulus" didn't even begin until much later in the year, so how did it have any affect on unemployment in Feb?

Show me the proof that it didn't kick in until much later. That's bullshit.
 
What the fuck are you talking about? No dumbass you can't read the graph. The graph clearly says the job loss rate began to decline in March of 09.

Get a fucking clue dude.

The graph isn't that precise, numskull. It looks to me like the peak occurred in Jan. However, as I said before, much of the spending from Obama's "Stimulus" didn't even begin until much later in the year, so how did it have any affect on unemployment in Feb?

Show me the proof that it didn't kick in until much later. That's bullshit.

The Reason That Shovel Ready Stimulus Didn't Work Is That There Wasn't Any Stimulus - Forbes

As President Obama urges Congress to pass the $800 billion-plus stimulus package, one of his favorite selling points is the thousands of projects nationwide that he calls “shovel ready” — meaning planning is complete, approvals are secured and people could be put to work right away once funding is in place.

There is no formal definition for shovel ready. The Federal Highway Administration says it doesn’t use the phrase. Its preferred term is “ready to go,” according to acting administrator Jeff Paniati.

That means a state has already done the preliminary work for that project, he says.

“They’ve addressed all the environmental requirements as required,” Paniati says. “They’ve done the necessary public outreach. In many cases, the design work is already completed … and that they’re on an approved state list.”

One example of a shovel-ready project is the in the notoriously traffic-clogged suburbs of Northern Virginia outside Washington, D.C. The state wants to widen the roads and has done some of the preliminary work, but the project is on hold because Virginia doesn’t have the final $32 million needed to complete it.

The stimulus bill states that for a project to be considered shovel-ready, it must be ready to begin in 90 days. The has a list of almost 19,000 such projects, adding up to almost $150 billion.

I quote at such length as this really was what was touted as the way out of the then current problems.

InfraSpending.png
 
I don't think any of you can. I have never seen anyone here make the distinction. You instead choose to believe all liberals think the same way as if we are part of some giant clubhouse. I wish you understood how simple minded this kind of thinking is.

Or better yet, how about you also explain the difference between a moderate conservative and a conservative extremist,

The phrase "I know it when I see it" is a colloquial expression by which a speaker attempts to categorize an observable fact or event, although the category is subjective or lacks clearly defined parameters. The phrase was famously used in this sense by United States Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart to describe his threshold test for obscenity in Jacobellis v. Ohio (1964). In explaining why the material at issue in the case was not obscene under the Roth test, and therefore was protected speech that could not be censored, Stewart wrote:

I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description ["hard-core pornography"]; and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it, and the motion picture involved in this case is not that. [Emphasis added.]

—Justice Potter Stewart, concurring opinion in Jacobellis v. Ohio 378 U.S. 184 (1964), regarding possible obscenity in The Lovers.

I know it when I see it - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I may not be able to define it (moderate liberal and an extremist) but I know it when I see it.

Most of the time, given enough evidence and over a long enough period of time.
 
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The graph isn't that precise, numskull. It looks to me like the peak occurred in Jan. However, as I said before, much of the spending from Obama's "Stimulus" didn't even begin until much later in the year, so how did it have any affect on unemployment in Feb?

Show me the proof that it didn't kick in until much later. That's bullshit.

The Reason That Shovel Ready Stimulus Didn't Work Is That There Wasn't Any Stimulus - Forbes

As President Obama urges Congress to pass the $800 billion-plus stimulus package, one of his favorite selling points is the thousands of projects nationwide that he calls “shovel ready” — meaning planning is complete, approvals are secured and people could be put to work right away once funding is in place.

There is no formal definition for shovel ready. The Federal Highway Administration says it doesn’t use the phrase. Its preferred term is “ready to go,” according to acting administrator Jeff Paniati.

That means a state has already done the preliminary work for that project, he says.

“They’ve addressed all the environmental requirements as required,” Paniati says. “They’ve done the necessary public outreach. In many cases, the design work is already completed … and that they’re on an approved state list.”

One example of a shovel-ready project is the in the notoriously traffic-clogged suburbs of Northern Virginia outside Washington, D.C. The state wants to widen the roads and has done some of the preliminary work, but the project is on hold because Virginia doesn’t have the final $32 million needed to complete it.

The stimulus bill states that for a project to be considered shovel-ready, it must be ready to begin in 90 days. The has a list of almost 19,000 such projects, adding up to almost $150 billion.

I quote at such length as this really was what was touted as the way out of the then current problems.

InfraSpending.png

This is what the kids call an epic fail.

Forbes.com wow. You might as well have come up with Fox News as a source.

This is a very opinionated therefore bias, but either way this article is all about infrastructure. The main focus of the stimulus package was extending unemployment benefits. That is what most of the 787 billion was.

Your article is bias, misleading, and worst of all irrelevant.
 
Can any con here tell me the difference between a moderate liberal and an extremist?

Easy. Liberals are a small part of a diverse party called "Democrats.

Extremists are what the vast majority of the 90% white Republican Party are.

This is what many Republicans have to say:

Tank: Homosexuality, welfare, unemployment, dropouts, STD.s. obesity, fatherless children, abortion, rape, murder are not Republican values, so thats why blacks, hispanics and gays are democrats

Here's the difference: the later exists. the former doesn't.

BTW, deenie, "extremist" isn't a euphemism meaning "Republican."

Failed "trickle down" economic policy.

Trillions in debt for "freeing" a Middle Eastern theocracy that hates our guts.

Letting Bin Laden go scott free.

"Let him die" masquerading as "health care".

A redistribution of wealth to the top 1%.

Wrecking the economy.

Hatred for education and science.

If that isn't "extremist", then what is?

You loon.

You have no idea what the Trickle Down theory is.

It is BUSINESS as we all know it and need it to be.
 

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