Can anyone tell me what the main problem Obamacare (AHCAA)

So it sounds like he didn't have health insurance coverage for the treatment he received.

People don't get "Obamacare," they buy private health insurance. The website the government provides is there to establish a single place to shop for private insurance plans that meet the requirements of the ACA and to see if the person is eligible for Medicaid or subsidization.

You said "person eligible for Medicaid"...
How many people were eligible for Medicaid "before ACA" do you think that said they wanted insurance but didn't know they were eligible?

They also expanded Medicaid. I don't know the number but it was greater than zero.

I am not sure what point you are trying to make.

The point was this was before Obama administration BEFORE ACA admitted that ..
"Of the 44.7 million non-elderly uninsured individuals identified in the 2004 Census Current Population Survey (CPS) data,
nearly one-third — almost 14 million — were reachable through existing government health programs such as Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) under current rules!
In the latest Census health insurance report, the Census Bureau acknowledges that the survey “…underreports Medicare and Medicaid coverage compared with enrollment and participation data from the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS).”
http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf

See the Census included in the 46 million Obama et.al. used 14 million people as the above says:
"almost 14 million [/I][/B]— were reachable through existing government health programs such as Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) under current rules!"

It didn't take ACA to reach these because under Medicaid PRIOR to ACA these people didn't know they qualified and ARE ELIGIBLE... so why was it necessary
to pass ACA to cover 14 million already covered???
 
Yeah millions of uninsured children is really the facts that prove the left wrong.

You people are crazy town.

"Of the 44.7 million non-elderly uninsured individuals identified in the 2004 Census Current Population Survey (CPS) data,
nearly one-third — almost 14 million — were reachable through existing government health programs such as Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) under current rules!
In the latest Census health insurance report, the Census Bureau acknowledges that the survey “…underreports Medicare and Medicaid coverage compared with enrollment and participation data from the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS).”
http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf

Yes 14 million many children need ONLY be registered under BEFORE ACA regulations... why weren't they?

Yet Obama counted them as part of the 46 million.
 
And it is mostly the young who say they won't buy insurance because they are healthy.
Thirty-one percent of respondents age 18-29 cited that reason.
Only 6 percent of those 30-49 said they were healthy enough to remain uninsured.

Newsmax.com Defiant Americans: A Third of Uninsured Refuse to Buy Obamacare

Remember Obama COUNTED 18 million people under 34 as uninsured that don't WANT health insurance... So that would leave of the 46 million 28 million right?
Yet even Obama NOW says 10 million illegals counted as uninsured WON"T be covered under ACA... so that means 18 million left "uninsured"...
BUT we are finding out that many of the "healthcare.gov enrollees are eligible for Medicaid! SO why did it take Obamacare to do something these 14 million that
said they are uninsured and counted as part of Obama's 46 million could have done BEFORE ACA????
That leaves truly 4 million that want and need health insurance and for these we're destroying the mechanisms that have provided coverage 99.4% of the country!

ALL Congress should have done was listen to the experts... Physicians who say THEY SEND patients to do duplicate tests, refer to specialists all because the physicians
fear being sued and as a result $850 billion a year called defensive medicine is the cost which insurance/medicare and out of pocket pay!

I am sorry to disagree but I don't buy the defensive medicine story. I have been sitting in the hospital for the last two weeks with a sick relative and I have seen none of it.

Why would a doctor get sued for not ordering a test? Because he really didn't know what was wrong with you and was treating you any way. A friend of mine went through radiation treatment for a year until they destroyed her heart. Then a different doctor looked at her tests and they were treating her for the wrong type of cancer, they sent her to an early grave.

So when the doctor tells you that they are practicing defensive medicine, in my opinion, they don't know what they are doing.

ONE ANECDOTAL story alters the survey... and YOU know I believe YOU are the EXCEPTION truly you are..
SO why don't you just discount YOUR experience from the below people who actually do defensive medicine and you still have a VERY big number!
See you've got to remember the world does NOT revolve around you.
I am sorry your friend and you have had bad experiences. YET you are the exceptions.

I appreciate the personal stories BUT stories like yours are again NOT THE RULE. If they were the rule no one would be alive!
See I know that sounds very childish to remind but sometimes we take situations like yours and apply it to EVERYTHING!
So I'm sorry to disagree with you but these physicians KNOW they are practicing defensive medicine.
And I'm sorry also that you have had disagreeable and sad personal anecdotal stories that are though UNIQUE... because if it was the NORM again how many people would be dead today?

90% of physicians say they order $850 billion a year in wasted duplicate tests, referrals all out of FEAR of being SUED!
Physicians estimate the cost of defensive medicine in US at $650 to $850 billion per year
Health News Observer ? Physicians Estimate The Cost Of Defensive Medicine In Us At 650 To 850 Bill Articles
 
You said "person eligible for Medicaid"...
How many people were eligible for Medicaid "before ACA" do you think that said they wanted insurance but didn't know they were eligible?

They also expanded Medicaid. I don't know the number but it was greater than zero.

I am not sure what point you are trying to make.

The point was this was before Obama administration BEFORE ACA admitted that ..
"Of the 44.7 million non-elderly uninsured individuals identified in the 2004 Census Current Population Survey (CPS) data,
nearly one-third — almost 14 million — were reachable through existing government health programs such as Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) under current rules!
In the latest Census health insurance report, the Census Bureau acknowledges that the survey “…underreports Medicare and Medicaid coverage compared with enrollment and participation data from the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS).”
http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf

See the Census included in the 46 million Obama et.al. used 14 million people as the above says:
"almost 14 million [/I][/B]— were reachable through existing government health programs such as Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) under current rules!"

It didn't take ACA to reach these because under Medicaid PRIOR to ACA these people didn't know they qualified and ARE ELIGIBLE... so why was it necessary
to pass ACA to cover 14 million already covered???

All health care systems like Medicaid have people who are eligible but don't take the government up on the offer for various reasons. Ignorance, fear, laziness, other....

I don't think anyone ever claimed all of the changes were needed to address this one specific issue. I don't think anyone claimed that the ACA will reduce this group to zero. I do think that ACA has been used as a way to try and reach these people and lower this number.
 
was to have solved?

Affordable Health Care for America Act is the name but when you read this story where does "Affordable" come in??

Obamacare leaves Las Vegas man owing $407,000 in doctor bills
Obamacare leaves Las Vegas man owing $407,000 in doctor bills | Las Vegas Review-Journal

To provide affordable coverage for 48 million people who either did not have coverage or did not have adequate coverage. :eusa_clap:

Why does anyone need insurance? What's wrong with just buying health care when you need it? I don't mind if some folks have an irrational fear of living life without insurance, but the authoritarians who think it's their place to force me to buy into their health insurance plan... yeah you guys can eat me.
 
was to have solved?

Affordable Health Care for America Act is the name but when you read this story where does "Affordable" come in??

Obamacare leaves Las Vegas man owing $407,000 in doctor bills
Obamacare leaves Las Vegas man owing $407,000 in doctor bills | Las Vegas Review-Journal

To provide affordable coverage for 48 million people who either did not have coverage or did not have adequate coverage. :eusa_clap:

Why does anyone need insurance? What's wrong with just buying health care when you need it? I don't mind if some folks have an irrational fear of living life without insurance, but the authoritarians who think it's their place to force me to buy into their health insurance plan... yeah you guys can eat me.

:lol:
 
They also expanded Medicaid. I don't know the number but it was greater than zero.

I am not sure what point you are trying to make.

The point was this was before Obama administration BEFORE ACA admitted that ..
"Of the 44.7 million non-elderly uninsured individuals identified in the 2004 Census Current Population Survey (CPS) data,
nearly one-third — almost 14 million — were reachable through existing government health programs such as Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) under current rules!
In the latest Census health insurance report, the Census Bureau acknowledges that the survey “…underreports Medicare and Medicaid coverage compared with enrollment and participation data from the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS).”
http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf

See the Census included in the 46 million Obama et.al. used 14 million people as the above says:
"almost 14 million [/I][/B]— were reachable through existing government health programs such as Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) under current rules!"

It didn't take ACA to reach these because under Medicaid PRIOR to ACA these people didn't know they qualified and ARE ELIGIBLE... so why was it necessary
to pass ACA to cover 14 million already covered???

All health care systems like Medicaid have people who are eligible but don't take the government up on the offer for various reasons. Ignorance, fear, laziness, other....

I don't think anyone ever claimed all of the changes were needed to address this one specific issue. I don't think anyone claimed that the ACA will reduce this group to zero. I do think that ACA has been used as a way to try and reach these people and lower this number.

Lower "what number"??
10 million illegals?
14 million who either because they are too lazy (I know 2 people that qualify but just don't register over 60..) or don't know. So why massively alter health care as we
know it for them when it was BEFORE ACA these people existed?
18 million that don't need as they are under 34, make over $50k so they can afford employers' health plan but choose not to participate as their out of pocket health services costs are less?

Again.. explain WHY 46 million was used when it is clearly a bogus number?
There is NO other explanation other then Obama fulfilling is preference: "“I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care program.” ..
NOW why when there is already less the 4 million that WANT and NEED convert to a single payer when in doing so it will literally cost:
$100 billion a year in LOST TAX revenue to Federal/States/Local governments as well as 400,000 employees put out of work!
Was that thought EVER shared with Obama? Of course not because Obama does NOT believe in capitalism. In for profits. He just thinks taxes are paid magically.
Someone's stash!
Honestly how can people be so naive???
 
The point was this was before Obama administration BEFORE ACA admitted that ..
"Of the 44.7 million non-elderly uninsured individuals identified in the 2004 Census Current Population Survey (CPS) data,
nearly one-third — almost 14 million — were reachable through existing government health programs such as Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) under current rules!
In the latest Census health insurance report, the Census Bureau acknowledges that the survey “…underreports Medicare and Medicaid coverage compared with enrollment and participation data from the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS).”
http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf

See the Census included in the 46 million Obama et.al. used 14 million people as the above says:
"almost 14 million [/I][/B]— were reachable through existing government health programs such as Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) under current rules!"

It didn't take ACA to reach these because under Medicaid PRIOR to ACA these people didn't know they qualified and ARE ELIGIBLE... so why was it necessary
to pass ACA to cover 14 million already covered???

All health care systems like Medicaid have people who are eligible but don't take the government up on the offer for various reasons. Ignorance, fear, laziness, other....

I don't think anyone ever claimed all of the changes were needed to address this one specific issue. I don't think anyone claimed that the ACA will reduce this group to zero. I do think that ACA has been used as a way to try and reach these people and lower this number.

Lower "what number"??
10 million illegals?
14 million who either because they are too lazy (I know 2 people that qualify but just don't register over 60..) or don't know. So why massively alter health care as we
know it for them when it was BEFORE ACA these people existed?
18 million that don't need as they are under 34, make over $50k so they can afford employers' health plan but choose not to participate as their out of pocket health services costs are less?

Again.. explain WHY 46 million was used when it is clearly a bogus number?
There is NO other explanation other then Obama fulfilling is preference: "“I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care program.” ..
NOW why when there is already less the 4 million that WANT and NEED convert to a single payer when in doing so it will literally cost:
$100 billion a year in LOST TAX revenue to Federal/States/Local governments as well as 400,000 employees put out of work!
Was that thought EVER shared with Obama? Of course not because Obama does NOT believe in capitalism. In for profits. He just thinks taxes are paid magically.
Someone's stash!
Honestly how can people be so naive???

The biggest change was the mandate which was based on the previous condition clause more so than the large number of people uninsured.

The mandate also has the effect of creating an incentive to get people off their butt to sign up for health insurance even if they were already eligible for Medicaid.

Your number is bogus. There is over 4 million(7.5) children who are uninsured by the data you provided.
 
was to have solved?

Affordable Health Care for America Act is the name but when you read this story where does "Affordable" come in??

Obamacare leaves Las Vegas man owing $407,000 in doctor bills
Obamacare leaves Las Vegas man owing $407,000 in doctor bills | Las Vegas Review-Journal

To my knowledge, the Left didn't want the system that was passed. They wanted the single payer system. Everyone would have healthcare and everyone would pay taxes for it. What we ended up with was a compromise that doesn't seem to be working too well.

I think it should be single payer or nothing. The fear for me is that if we have the single payer system some crazy politician can come storming in and shutdown the Government again and everyone would be out of coverage.

It's a complex topic and I love brainy debates about it. Sadly, there are very few brainy debates on it.
 
was to have solved?

Affordable Health Care for America Act is the name but when you read this story where does "Affordable" come in??

Obamacare leaves Las Vegas man owing $407,000 in doctor bills
Obamacare leaves Las Vegas man owing $407,000 in doctor bills | Las Vegas Review-Journal

To my knowledge, the Left didn't want the system that was passed. They wanted the single payer system. Everyone would have healthcare and everyone would pay taxes for it. What we ended up with was a compromise that doesn't seem to be working too well.

I think it should be single payer or nothing. The fear for me is that if we have the single payer system some crazy politician can come storming in and shutdown the Government again and everyone would be out of coverage.

It's a complex topic and I love brainy debates about it. Sadly, there are very few brainy debates on it.

Why can't you debate this?
This is NOT a brainy debate though... it is a simple math issue.

A) 10 million of the Census 46 million uninsured BY the Census are not citizens. Yet they were counted as part of the 46 million that was used
to get a big number and the attention that brought.
Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2009 - Income & Wealth - Newsroom - U.S. Census Bureau

B) 14 million when asked by Census "you insured" said no... BUT the Census didn't seem to know these 14 million were eligible under Medicaid
rules BEFORE ACA... so why were these 14 million counted as "uninsured"?
http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf

C) 18 million people were counted as part of the 46 million uninsured.. THAT DIDN"T WANT insurance as they were under 34 and their need wasn't there and if they did want they could afford as the make over $50,000 but they spend out of pocket for health services LESS then the premium of their employers' health plans. YET they were counted as part of the 46 million uninsured.
CRISIS OF THE UNINSURED: 2009

These 42 million that were bogusly counted as part of the 46 million should NEVER have been a part of that number.
The true number is less then 4 million that want, that need health insurance... NOT the phony 46 million.

So please debate me that there were based on those LINKS 46 million truly uninsured.
If you simply follow the links.. read the numbers and then tell me I'm wrong.
 
was to have solved?

Affordable Health Care for America Act is the name but when you read this story where does "Affordable" come in??

Obamacare leaves Las Vegas man owing $407,000 in doctor bills
Obamacare leaves Las Vegas man owing $407,000 in doctor bills | Las Vegas Review-Journal

To my knowledge, the Left didn't want the system that was passed. They wanted the single payer system. Everyone would have healthcare and everyone would pay taxes for it. What we ended up with was a compromise that doesn't seem to be working too well.

I think it should be single payer or nothing. The fear for me is that if we have the single payer system some crazy politician can come storming in and shutdown the Government again and everyone would be out of coverage.

It's a complex topic and I love brainy debates about it. Sadly, there are very few brainy debates on it.

Why can't you debate this?
This is NOT a brainy debate though... it is a simple math issue.

A) 10 million of the Census 46 million uninsured BY the Census are not citizens. Yet they were counted as part of the 46 million that was used
to get a big number and the attention that brought.
Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2009 - Income & Wealth - Newsroom - U.S. Census Bureau

B) 14 million when asked by Census "you insured" said no... BUT the Census didn't seem to know these 14 million were eligible under Medicaid
rules BEFORE ACA... so why were these 14 million counted as "uninsured"?
http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf

C) 18 million people were counted as part of the 46 million uninsured.. THAT DIDN"T WANT insurance as they were under 34 and their need wasn't there and if they did want they could afford as the make over $50,000 but they spend out of pocket for health services LESS then the premium of their employers' health plans. YET they were counted as part of the 46 million uninsured.
CRISIS OF THE UNINSURED: 2009

These 42 million that were bogusly counted as part of the 46 million should NEVER have been a part of that number.
The true number is less then 4 million that want, that need health insurance... NOT the phony 46 million.

So please debate me that there were based on those LINKS 46 million truly uninsured.
If you simply follow the links.. read the numbers and then tell me I'm wrong.

Tell me the math issue. People with insurance pay for it and more through insurance. It it's in a doctors visit that is. People without insurance get free healthcare through the ER which is over 3X as expensive drives up the wait time for the people with actual Emergencies. And YES, WE THE PEOPLE pay for those ER visits, not the hospital.

The only debate in America is this. Do we cut No Insurance poor people from ER care? Or do we fix the system in one way/shape/form..
 
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Oh yes. I'm DIRECTLY asking you if we should pass law to stop the ER from providing care to those in imminent danger without the right papers.

What happens when your kid is the one about to die and since you were so distracted by the scene you didn't bring a card to the ER. Now that ER want's to know if you are a taker or a maker. But your kid is dying and you didn't carry that card today.

Again, there is lot's more to think about than the bias news puppets.
 
Oh yes. I'm DIRECTLY asking you if we should pass law to stop the ER from providing care to those in imminent danger without the right papers.

That would be as silly as the law requiring them to treat all comers. Just let them formulate whatever policy they want.

If what you want is guaranteed emergency coverage, and you can't be bothered with setting something up yourself, then just do like we've done with police and fire departments. Setup taxpayer funded municipal ERs that will stabilize patients, no questions asked. But trying to make that happen that with unfunded mandates is dumb. It just leads to more dumbness - like the delusion that the only way we can pay for our health care is a government takeover.
 
They also expanded Medicaid. I don't know the number but it was greater than zero.

I am not sure what point you are trying to make.

The point was this was before Obama administration BEFORE ACA admitted that ..
"Of the 44.7 million non-elderly uninsured individuals identified in the 2004 Census Current Population Survey (CPS) data,
nearly one-third — almost 14 million — were reachable through existing government health programs such as Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) under current rules!
In the latest Census health insurance report, the Census Bureau acknowledges that the survey “…underreports Medicare and Medicaid coverage compared with enrollment and participation data from the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS).”
http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf

See the Census included in the 46 million Obama et.al. used 14 million people as the above says:
"almost 14 million [/I][/B]— were reachable through existing government health programs such as Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) under current rules!"

It didn't take ACA to reach these because under Medicaid PRIOR to ACA these people didn't know they qualified and ARE ELIGIBLE... so why was it necessary
to pass ACA to cover 14 million already covered???

All health care systems like Medicaid have people who are eligible but don't take the government up on the offer for various reasons. Ignorance, fear, laziness, other....

I don't think anyone ever claimed all of the changes were needed to address this one specific issue. I don't think anyone claimed that the ACA will reduce this group to zero. I do think that ACA has been used as a way to try and reach these people and lower this number.

But there was first a total falsehood. Ignorance in claiming 46 million "uninsured"!
Maybe ACA would have passed if the actual count of people that WANTED and NEEDED health insurance WAS 4 million!

But it took this falsehood to make the 2,000 page "we have to pass it to know what's in it!" mess.

The individual market for health insurance has seen premiums rise by 39 percent since February 2013, eHealth reports.
Without a subsidy, the average individual premium is now $274 a month. Families have been hit even harder with an average increase of 56 percent over the same period
— average premiums are now $663 per family, over $426 last year.

Read more: Premiums rising faster than eight years before Obamacare | The Daily Caller

So who pays the "subsidy"???
 
In Iowa, which hosts the first presidential caucus in the nation and has a competitive Senate race this year, rates are expected to rise 100 percent on the exchange and by double digits on the larger, employer-based market, according to a recent article in the Business Record.

O-Care premiums to skyrocket | TheHill
 
The point was this was before Obama administration BEFORE ACA admitted that ..
"Of the 44.7 million non-elderly uninsured individuals identified in the 2004 Census Current Population Survey (CPS) data,
nearly one-third — almost 14 million — were reachable through existing government health programs such as Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) under current rules!
In the latest Census health insurance report, the Census Bureau acknowledges that the survey “…underreports Medicare and Medicaid coverage compared with enrollment and participation data from the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS).”
http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf

See the Census included in the 46 million Obama et.al. used 14 million people as the above says:
"almost 14 million [/I][/B]— were reachable through existing government health programs such as Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) under current rules!"

It didn't take ACA to reach these because under Medicaid PRIOR to ACA these people didn't know they qualified and ARE ELIGIBLE... so why was it necessary
to pass ACA to cover 14 million already covered???

All health care systems like Medicaid have people who are eligible but don't take the government up on the offer for various reasons. Ignorance, fear, laziness, other....

I don't think anyone ever claimed all of the changes were needed to address this one specific issue. I don't think anyone claimed that the ACA will reduce this group to zero. I do think that ACA has been used as a way to try and reach these people and lower this number.

But there was first a total falsehood. Ignorance in claiming 46 million "uninsured"!
Maybe ACA would have passed if the actual count of people that WANTED and NEEDED health insurance WAS 4 million!

But it took this falsehood to make the 2,000 page "we have to pass it to know what's in it!" mess.

The individual market for health insurance has seen premiums rise by 39 percent since February 2013, eHealth reports.
Without a subsidy, the average individual premium is now $274 a month. Families have been hit even harder with an average increase of 56 percent over the same period
— average premiums are now $663 per family, over $426 last year.

Read more: Premiums rising faster than eight years before Obamacare | The Daily Caller

So who pays the "subsidy"???

I have already pointed out twice that your own link says there are 7.5 million children without insurance.
 
All health care systems like Medicaid have people who are eligible but don't take the government up on the offer for various reasons. Ignorance, fear, laziness, other....

I don't think anyone ever claimed all of the changes were needed to address this one specific issue. I don't think anyone claimed that the ACA will reduce this group to zero. I do think that ACA has been used as a way to try and reach these people and lower this number.

But there was first a total falsehood. Ignorance in claiming 46 million "uninsured"!
Maybe ACA would have passed if the actual count of people that WANTED and NEEDED health insurance WAS 4 million!

But it took this falsehood to make the 2,000 page "we have to pass it to know what's in it!" mess.

The individual market for health insurance has seen premiums rise by 39 percent since February 2013, eHealth reports.
Without a subsidy, the average individual premium is now $274 a month. Families have been hit even harder with an average increase of 56 percent over the same period
— average premiums are now $663 per family, over $426 last year.

Read more: Premiums rising faster than eight years before Obamacare | The Daily Caller

So who pays the "subsidy"???

I have already pointed out twice that your own link says there are 7.5 million children without insurance.

http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf

AND they are covered under SCHIP!
The 2004 Census Current Population Survey (CPS) identified 44.7 million non-elderly uninsured
in 2003. Blue Cross and Blue Shield Association contracted with the Actuarial Research
Corporation (ARC) to provide a detailed analysis of the uninsured identified by the Census
Bureau, which found:
■ Nearly one-third were reachable through public programs, such as Medicaid and the SCHIP program for children
■ The Actuarial Research Corporation (ARC) estimates that about 9 million of these individuals actually were enrolled in Medicaid during the year, but were categorized as uninsured in the Census survey. page 4 of above PDF.
■ Among uninsured individuals eligible for public programs, but not enrolled during the year: 89 percent were in working families, 41 percent were children under the age of 18
who could be enrolled in Medicaid and/or SCHIP, and 44 percent were Hispanic.
 
Everyones really tired of your shit Health. We get it. Obama said one thing and you dont understand the numbers or how it can be true. Doesnt mean you have to pigeon hole yourself into making this a topic 5 times a week
 

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